HOKA VS ALTRA? What is the best running shoe for you? A comparison of HOKA or Altra | August 2022

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  • Hoka shoes vs Altra. Steve of Run Moore compares the brands of HOKA and Altra and talks about how to find the best running shoe for you. Find out the difference between Altra's zero drop, rounded, foot shaped toe box and HOKA's meta rocker platform. 😄 Which is the best running shoe for you? Steve compares the HOKA Clifton 8, Altra Escalante 3, HOKA Arahi 6, Altra Provision 6, HOKA Bondi 8, Altra Torin 6, Gaviota 4 & Altra Paradigm 6.
    Altra vs HOKA shoes running shoes. Its a battle for the ages. What will it be for you? Hoka or Altra?
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    TIMESTAMPS
    0:00 Start
    0:19 Brand Intro
    2:43 Mid Cushion Neural (Clifton and Escalante)
    3:38 Light Stability (Arahi and Provision)
    4:43 Max Cushion Neutral (Bondi and Torin)
    6:05 Max Cushion Stability (Gaviota and Paradigm)
    7:54 Promo Code
    Video produced by Adam Stultz of Digital Consulting LLC (adamstultz.com/)
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  • @chrisreyes7326
    @chrisreyes7326 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    If only Hoka had a rounded toe box...

    • @slavasss2189
      @slavasss2189 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yes, they are narrow even in 2e width

    • @barondavis5692
      @barondavis5692 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Agree, and wide. Until they do I can’t fit my feet into Hokas. I’d like to but… Come Hoka get your stuff together and make a shoe shaped like a foot.

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  ปีที่แล้ว +24

      That would be sweet if they had a true foot-shaped toe box model.

    • @birdlynn417
      @birdlynn417 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And wider shoe frame.

    • @mdskippa
      @mdskippa ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Was thinking the same. Im all about Altra due to the wind toe box. Shoe is snug around the heel but gives room at the toe. Would love to try a wide toe with low ,Hoka like, foot drop of 4-5mm. If only . . .

  • @PLANETWATERMELON
    @PLANETWATERMELON ปีที่แล้ว +12

    And then there’s Topo with similar to Altra’s toe box and Hoka’s 5mm drop. 😊

  • @notmedude
    @notmedude ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Having both I honestly feel Hoka can't justify the same price for the quality and comfort. The materials feel so much better in Altras to me

    • @tomscharf4764
      @tomscharf4764 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I had altra olympus 5 and rerurned them I now use hoka arahi 6 and bondi and in my view both quality and comfort is above altra

    • @TheWcr84
      @TheWcr84 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Altra always break down on the bottom way to quick for me. Can’t justify the price until they fix QC issues

    • @jada8331
      @jada8331 หลายเดือนก่อน

      do you use the same size Hoka and Altra? I have Hoka and i would like to try Altra...

    • @notmedude
      @notmedude หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jada8331 Same size. Yeah. And they both fit well - although hoka is a bit narrow which is expected compared to Altra all shoes will be slightly (or a lot) narrower than altra in the toebox and in the midfoot. I see altra as a great shoe for less technical terrain. They tend to slip sideways when you run on a sloped terrain (sideways to the hill if that makes sense).

  • @Rob-kx7yj
    @Rob-kx7yj 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You’re doing lords work with these videos, good job!

  • @shillens1
    @shillens1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is excellent. Love your videos. Great info and very succint delivery.

  • @marinusapeldoorn6631
    @marinusapeldoorn6631 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Highly appreciate your information sir. I have had struggles with Altra's shoe advisor on the internet and I am just glad to see you can be the alternative. I live in Europe, I can not order my shoes with you, so please accept a virtual thank you note!

  • @christiandm1041
    @christiandm1041 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good video!! I run in both of these brands the most. Very different for the most part but both have models I absolutely love and enjoy. Happy running 🏃‍♂️☺

  • @girlygirlwoman
    @girlygirlwoman 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank You great explanation!

  • @susanc.7514
    @susanc.7514 ปีที่แล้ว

    You really explain very well! Thanks

  • @alvaropacheco5891
    @alvaropacheco5891 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for the comparison. One of the best running shoes channel on you tube!

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much!!

  • @ethinp14
    @ethinp14 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love your shirt man! I’ve been looking into Hoka since my produce guy had em on. I’m on my feel 12+ hours a day so I’m thinking I’m going with the Bondi. Thanks for the link!

  • @ItsAStephanieB
    @ItsAStephanieB ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much!! A great vid, and helped choose a shoe. Altra paradigm it is!

  • @LancePeterman
    @LancePeterman ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Glad to see I'm not the only one who has the Provision and Paradigm cross-wired :) Would love to see a comparison between the new Altra Via Olympus vs. the Bondi 8. Seems like they are identical targets in terms of stack height.

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha. Yes, I have a lot of shoes to keep track of when I do these videos. And thanks for the recommendation. I will talk with my video guy and see if that's a video we can do. We appreciate your support.

  • @raysollarsthehappyjogger5907
    @raysollarsthehappyjogger5907 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great informative video. I just got my 1st Altra and it is the Rivera 2. No complaints. I chose it because I have a narrow foot and the Rivera 2 has the slimmest fit for Altra.

  • @twosteen
    @twosteen ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very informative video, Steve. Altras for me please!. Did my first run in the Torin 6's (mail ordered from your shop) and was very happy with the feel right out of the box.

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  ปีที่แล้ว

      So glad you liked them, thanks for watching!

  • @TheOldUltraRunner
    @TheOldUltraRunner ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great comparison of the different approaches!

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching!

  • @ryanleemorrison4496
    @ryanleemorrison4496 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow! this was a great video. Very informative thank you!

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching the video! I'm glad you enjoyed it!

  • @chavezcnaable
    @chavezcnaable ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a great video!!!

  • @DarkKoffee
    @DarkKoffee ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you very much for your tremendous help! I’m a HOKA person and have gone through 3 pairs of Bondi 7 and 2 pairs Speedgoat so far 😂. I run uphill to work everyday so the maximum cushion and durability are what I’m always looking for :). I think I’ll get Bondi 8 from your online shop in the near future 😁😎

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much! I appreciate you watching our channel.

  • @lsiau76
    @lsiau76 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Informative and appreciate the better video quality and editing.

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! We have tried to step up our video quality and it's great knowing it is not going unnoticed.

  • @ben.thornhill
    @ben.thornhill ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a great idea and execution of a video!

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching the video! Lots of people enjoy these comparison videos so I plan on making more of them.

  • @matthiassventoest6800
    @matthiassventoest6800 ปีที่แล้ว

    a lot of great information here.., thank you

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching!

  • @hpseaton68
    @hpseaton68 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video!

  • @raunking5234
    @raunking5234 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    First time viewer, but I love when people make videos like this. It's so informative. If I've worn even one of those shoes I can get a grasp of how it might feel to wear the others. Especially as a new runner, comparisons are the only useful way for me to understand what you're talking about. You can use as many words as you want, but if you don't compare it to something that I have actually tried, then I'm not really learning much of anything.
    So please do more comparisons please! I've been looking for a good max cushioned shoe (got one Hoka Clifton 2 in 2015 and it's been the only shoe I've worn until now). I love me some pillow-y goodness!
    Thanks for the detailed analysis and I will always vote for more comparisons over anything else.
    For this video, you've gained a new subscriber. Thank you for the help!

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks so much! We actually are going to try to do more comparison style reviews. They seem to help a lot of people and we really enjoy making them!

    • @micone1134
      @micone1134 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Run Moore which do you prefer out of the paradigm 6 or Olympus 5 with cushion and all around shoe?

  • @samhilgartner988
    @samhilgartner988 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful video

  • @highonlifefishing4007
    @highonlifefishing4007 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    my wife got me the torin 6 after I told her id like to try something else besides hoka and wow am I amazed at the comfort these shoes bring me. if you're looking for everyday shoes, trust me... the altras are GREAT.

  • @danielyacykewych4066
    @danielyacykewych4066 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Any chance you could do a video with Altra and Hoka trail shoes? I really liked this video. Its kind of like a runner’s reference manual.

  • @keithc1264
    @keithc1264 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a fun video! I can imagine a lot of people finding this super helpful. Great work. (Rivera = Rincon, right?)

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! Yes, along those lines. The Escalante 3 and Rivera 2 are so close in cushion now but then again the Rincon and Clifton are relatively close as well.

  • @josephgiunta7537
    @josephgiunta7537 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These are my two fav brands. Would love to have see the racers as well!

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching!

  • @Diddle1414
    @Diddle1414 ปีที่แล้ว

    You make very good videos.

  • @carlosestrada8851
    @carlosestrada8851 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Carlos

  • @teckluv4413
    @teckluv4413 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to wear SAS shoes for many years. The cost is between $150 to $200. Now wear these kind of shoes that they are comfortable and fit better. Thanks for the review .

  • @stevenglen5971
    @stevenglen5971 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i kinda pick and choose, having a 4e size Bondi is great, in use it for everyday and recovery or if my feet start to get tired standing too much at work (bought a second pair on sale for the more casual stuff like that )and i use the escalante racer for short runs and casually walking around etc, so i interchange between both in a sense , the Bondi really is "when my feet needs a bit of relief" but i again i buy the 4e extra wides 😅

  • @IsraelMagalit
    @IsraelMagalit ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid. Next please do Altra vs Topo

  • @brewlovinrunner
    @brewlovinrunner ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I love Altra’s. The Torin is my go to road shoe. The Superior is my trail shoe. I really wanted to like Hoka but they feel too narrow.

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Just like Altra's, some Hoka models are cut wider than others. Models like the Mach and Rincon can be cut narrow for sure. I have found this Clifton 8 runs nice and wide for our customers. More so than some of the other Hoka models. If you were to dip your toes in the Hoka waters, I would probably start there.

  • @juancdelalamo
    @juancdelalamo ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video! I loved how you made a face-to-face comparison of the shoes in each lineup. Having tried the escalante, clifton, and torin, I would say that the clifton and torin are probably more similar to each other in terms of plushness, although I understand why you paired the clifton to the escalante in your video. Looking forward to more videos like this. Thank you for the great content.

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much! We had a lot of fun making it and the staff and I had heated debates over the Escalante vs Clifton. Thank you for watching.

    • @DR-ti7yi
      @DR-ti7yi ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RunMoore didnt try torin, but you surely misguided me with escalante after I used Clifton :))

    • @Dara-ih6jq
      @Dara-ih6jq 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DR-ti7yi the dudes, just giving general advice to help people. He’s not here to hold your hand and tell you exactly what you to buy that’s kind of to you. You have to use your own brain at some point he’s just here to help with general advice lol. He’s not your personal guide lol.

    • @DR-ti7yi
      @DR-ti7yi 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Dara-ih6jq he is here just to sell. You didnt use your brain at all :))))

  • @matthew9488
    @matthew9488 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks for a great run down - thanks. any thoughts re the DURABILITY OF ALTRAS?

  • @lachlanmccarthy6212
    @lachlanmccarthy6212 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey mate. Great content.
    As someone from Australia it's pronounced - Bon - Die (Bondi)
    It's a famous beach here.

    • @jtbeckett6561
      @jtbeckett6561 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Every time I hear bondee, I die a little inside

  • @stevenshorten6184
    @stevenshorten6184 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Minor note: Paradigm doesn't have any dual-density foam in the midsole.

  • @andrewschuschu3499
    @andrewschuschu3499 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m a huge fan of both the Clifton 8 and the Torin 5- very different shoes but I’d urge fans of one to try the other.

  • @Dara-ih6jq
    @Dara-ih6jq 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome video

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! We appreciate it!

  • @jdcampbell23
    @jdcampbell23 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Steve, I love the video. Nice job on the sound effects and visual graphics, you're taking these videos to the next level. I agree with a previous comment on doing the same review with trail shoes. I know you have an extensive knowledge of the foams used in shoes and would love to see you sharing your knowledge/science on the current technology

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much! We have really tried to step our game up and I appreciate you saying it's noticed. We actually have been going through comments to find ideas for new videos. We can totally add that to the list.

  • @markdalton3900
    @markdalton3900 ปีที่แล้ว

    they both rock hoka little narrow cant go wrong with either!

  • @NoNameNoLastName
    @NoNameNoLastName ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I tried Hokas a few years ago - ordered them online, walked around the house for five minutes to get a feel o them, and as soon as I removed them, my toes said to me - "THANK YOU!!!"
    Returned them right away and went back to Altras...

    • @_danila5185
      @_danila5185 ปีที่แล้ว

      They’re very hard, right?

    • @NoNameNoLastName
      @NoNameNoLastName ปีที่แล้ว

      @@_danila5185 which ones, Hokas or Altras?

    • @_danila5185
      @_danila5185 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NoNameNoLastName Hokas.

  • @mengiequirante2460
    @mengiequirante2460 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! Thanks for this video. Any suggestion In what’s best shoes for Camino pilgrimage? Long day walk mostly paved road with some trails along the way. Thanks 🙏

  • @johnnyirizarry1276
    @johnnyirizarry1276 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm a fan of all brands I have altra Olympus, new balance fresh foam v4 hoka Clifton 8 what I do is I try all diffrent sneakers and rotate them on my runs. Oh I also have nike invincible great running sneakers

  • @ScheKitoff
    @ScheKitoff ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Apples and oranges and i enjoy both

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The world is more fun with more shoe options!

  • @BabarAli-tx7pz
    @BabarAli-tx7pz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very nice

  • @jhosoi808
    @jhosoi808 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just switched to Altra after running in Hoka for about 8 years
    I got plantar fasciitis running in Hoka - had for a year just starting to run again and taking it slow - altra was recommended to me - I use Riviera 2 for treadmill and Torin 6 for outside on the road
    Thanks for comparison

    • @mr.mr.3301
      @mr.mr.3301 ปีที่แล้ว

      Has the Altra helped?

    • @WeekendWandering
      @WeekendWandering 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm curious if the Altras helped as well. I run in Bondi 8 and I've been dealing with some gnarly PF...

  • @jamiemackenzie9502
    @jamiemackenzie9502 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good video and relevant to me as I’ve juggling between both brands mainly in the trail line up. Also Bondi is pronounced more like Bond-eye than Bond-ee.

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching! I actually did a Bond-eye/Bond-ee thing on the Bondi version 8 video.

    • @jamiemackenzie9502
      @jamiemackenzie9502 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RunMoore Thanks Steve, all good mate. Keep up the great reviews - love the channel.

  • @roamingnick
    @roamingnick ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great and timely video, thanks Steve. I run on both brands (Bondi, Clifton, Olympus, Torin). Mix of road and trail. What would you recommend for a 80kg supinator with a normal arch, no injuries and looking to stay that way. Distances up to 20kms. Thanks!

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Are you looking for more of a road or trail shoe? The Hoka Arahi 6 is awesome for a road supinator. It has the same cushion as the Clifton so if that was enough for you and your mileage that would be a great one to try (wearing a pair as I type this). On the trail, the Olympus 5 is the only one that is going to have any type of supination support to it. It's a lot of shoe but as you know, it's awesome. I also mix the Hoka Speedgoats into my trail mix and while it does not have the lateral stability it has never caused me any IT Band stress from excessive supination. Hope that helps!

  • @nebimertaydin3187
    @nebimertaydin3187 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video, i have Sesamoiditis do you have any suggestions?

  • @robertmorano2372
    @robertmorano2372 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm not a stability shoe wearer, but the provision 6 ROCKS!!!

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is such a sneaky great shoe

  • @MrHepcat34
    @MrHepcat34 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great vid. Thank you for the breakdown. I have used both brands, but am locked in with Altra due to the fit. I may need to try a pair of the Paradigm for road running.
    Question. I need to get a higher stacked pair of trail shoes for an upcoming ultra. I currently have the Lone peaks. I am thinking of either Mont Blanc, or Olympus. I’m thinking I love the feel of the Mont Blanc, but I because of my massive supination issues I should go with the more stable Olympus.

    • @charliejg
      @charliejg ปีที่แล้ว

      I give my two cents: For trail shoes, I tried many different things and just never felt comfortable in them, especially the width. Then, after watching an AT thru hiker talk about his shoes I tried the Altra 4. GAME CHANGER for me. They are so comfortable and the stack is plenty for "Rocksylvania" where I live and hike the AT. They are so comfortable I want to wear them all the time, but at that price I didn't want to wear them out. So, I actually searched for a used pair to use as daily wear shoes. I found a guy who bought several pair of Altra 1.0 shoes. He had 5 pair brand new still in the boxes because he didn't like them for running. I ended up buying 4 pair at $40 each. Now I have daily wear Altras for quite a long time!! :-) Good luck finding a shoe that works for you.

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree with your assessment that if you are a big supinator the Olympus will give more lateral support. I also severely supinate but for me, even when I am doing higher trail miles, I don't have to worry about it as much as I do on the road. With the undulations on the trail, you are never really running and landing in the same spot. If I wear the wrong shoe on the road I know immediately. On the trail, I don't have to worry as much about neutral/stable-type trail shoes. Hope that helps.

  • @theotopakis9120
    @theotopakis9120 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Steve! Great video! as always. Just a question: would you say that these Altra and Hoka are a few steps ahead Saucony Triumph 20? In my case, I suffer high archs. Thank you.

  • @ricardodiaz6187
    @ricardodiaz6187 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey that’s a catchy business name 😁🇺🇸

  • @stanmakowski1985
    @stanmakowski1985 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Love the video, great information. Have been a long time Altra fan, however since they have gone to the three different shoe platforms they have been a huge disappointment. Things are just becoming narrower and narrow with each new version of shoe. I feel they have lost their original mission trying to cater to the masses. As for Hoka, they have always been narrow, even with the wide and extra wide offerings, really not wide at all.

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I hear you. They have a lot of shoes now they call "standard fit" which is not what got a lot of people in the brand to begin with. I got to see the 2023 shoes recently and they will have at least one new model that seems like a good step back in the old direction. Sort of a big step backward but in a good way.

    • @lyrilljackson
      @lyrilljackson ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@RunMoore via olympus? or lp7

    • @cleanlife1305
      @cleanlife1305 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm an Altra fan too. I'd like to try the Hoka Clifton 9. But sounds like their toe box would be too narrow?

  • @deepintheheart2755
    @deepintheheart2755 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you do this same video just with the trail running side of these 2 companies?

  • @reaganbrown4640
    @reaganbrown4640 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video
    I’m an altra runner due to foot injury and I’ve worn escalates since switching to the brand. Which altra shoe would you recommend for staying around half marathon distance?

  • @jimbeam4736
    @jimbeam4736 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Altra counterpart to the Hoka Clifton is the Torin and the Bondi has the Paradigm on the other side.

    • @lyrilljackson
      @lyrilljackson ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah torin is just really not max cushion...not sure why anyone says so incl altra themselves

  • @kensenkoff2585
    @kensenkoff2585 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been struggling with weak knees for a couple of months, primarily with the IT band. What would you recommend as the best daily trainer ?

  • @techs_not_day_trading4746
    @techs_not_day_trading4746 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I run in Altra for trail running which is 95% of my running. With the very little road running I do I use Hokas.

    • @roamingnick
      @roamingnick ปีที่แล้ว

      Same though my ratios are more 60/40

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  ปีที่แล้ว

      You are not alone in that 👍

  • @60beats44
    @60beats44 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you very much. Not being able to try running shoes in person. Could you please advise if a Hoka 'Bondi' in US11 would be equivalent to an Altra 'Torin' regarding size?

  • @pawzee4373
    @pawzee4373 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im a front foot runner and i was using Altra Rivera 1 and Lone Peak 5 for almost year. I ran two ultramarathons in LP and aprox 1800km in riveras. After that my heel started hurting so badly that I couldn’t run for 3 weeks. I had to go back to shoes with drop. Saucony Ride 15 and now Cumulus 25. Pain goes away 🤷‍♂️ i don’t know what could cause this pain but it is interesting that this pain was only in altras (0mm). Now im testing speedgoats 5 for this trail season and im really curious what will happen 🤷‍♂️

  • @reddog771000
    @reddog771000 ปีที่แล้ว

    What shoe do ya recommend for backpacking or day hiking

  • @programmingempire9306
    @programmingempire9306 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have used many different type of shoes and mostly fo rrunning, but because my upper side foot is pretty wide the shoes always cracks on the outer sides both on the right and the left and then I'll have to through them away after 8 months. Now, I really would like to choose the right suitable shoes for my feet and the invironment that I'm using them, which is mostly on outdoor school activities and running sometimes on the asphalt or in the forest. So I really would like to get your help on which shoes do you recommend me to purchase (Altra Olympus 6) or (Hoka clifton 8 ) to be honest with you the Altra shoes seems to me a bit a big and huge compare to Hoka which basecally makes me a little bit hesitant to purchase them. Looking forward for your replay before making the order. Thank you

  • @mr.mr.3301
    @mr.mr.3301 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you are struggling with tight calves that is making your achilles at the heel hurt what would you choose? I mostly walk and do some running but not for long. Current shoes are Brooks Adrenaline and I’m thinking the high drop may be the problem.

  • @DwaneRichardsonSr.
    @DwaneRichardsonSr. ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as usual Steve. I'm coming off of my 2nd tkr. I have severe flat feet. Would the Altra or Hoka be more suitable?

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hope you are healing up well! I'd definitely check out the Hoka Gaviota, it's great for flat feet and stability for knee health.

    • @DwaneRichardsonSr.
      @DwaneRichardsonSr. ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RunMoore Thanks Steve.

  • @watchin-stoof988
    @watchin-stoof988 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Altra automatic win due to foot shape alone

  • @aritez3585
    @aritez3585 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you do a video on recommended shoes for people with pronate problems? I saw your video on arahi 6 and gaviotas and I don't know which one to get

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  ปีที่แล้ว

      We are trying to do more comparison-style videos or just overall injury-of-foot issue videos in the future. Now, the easiest way to compare the Arahi and the Gaviota...Think of the Arahi as the little sibling to the Gaviota. The Gaviota is bigger, denser, heavier, more stable, and taller. The Arahi is lighter, more nimble, and less stable. They both are designed for pronation issues but the Gaviotas has more of it. The tradeoff is it weighs more and costs a few bucks more.

  • @DanielOutdoors
    @DanielOutdoors ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Altras for the win... But here me out...
    The real difference is when you wear Zero Drop all the time, not only running.. Thats where your feet, ancles, knees and back after weeks, months, and years gets the pay out.

  • @AnwarDeca-ce3km
    @AnwarDeca-ce3km 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    hoka tested👍

  • @mistersmith3986
    @mistersmith3986 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hands down, ALTRA!!!

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching! Everyone here at the store loves Altras!

  • @st14
    @st14 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do I know if I have a wide foot or narrow? Is there a measurement I can take to find out?

  • @1980fack1025
    @1980fack1025 ปีที่แล้ว

    You mentioned in the Rivera 3 review you didn’t know where to put the Rivera 1/2. Rivera=Mach.

  • @courtneybayles8192
    @courtneybayles8192 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You just helped me immensely. There's so much conflicting information out there. I have terrible plantar faciitis pain at the end of a 12 hour shift in a nursing facility. Additionally, i experience over-pronation and consistently twist my ankle if I run barefoot. Currently in the newest Arahi by Hoka, but I've noticed they don't help at all with my pain. I want to try the paradigm shoe, do you know if they'd help me to strengthen my feet?

    • @GandaBaer
      @GandaBaer ปีที่แล้ว

      hey have you made any progress on this? i resonate with you looking at the paradigm for over pronation and comfrtoable standing shoes.

    • @courtneybayles8192
      @courtneybayles8192 ปีที่แล้ว

      @GandaBaer yes!! I went and bought the Altra Paradigms. I can't rave about them enough!! I broke them in on a shift and was amazed by how much less pain I have now, even after I take them off. I had been wearing the Hoka Arahi 6, but still noticed a ton of pain from my PF at the end of a shift. I look forward to buying more pairs of the Altra Paradigm shoe!! Again, thank you so much for your help and for checking back in!

    • @GandaBaer
      @GandaBaer ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@courtneybayles8192 thanks for replying! That's awesome that it works out for you. What size shoe did you get? I find it's a little hard to find a detailed sizing chart for Altra haha. I've seen one chart say 1/2 up from regular narrow running shoe. Or measure the CM of your foot and add +1cm and that's your shoe size.

    • @courtneybayles8192
      @courtneybayles8192 ปีที่แล้ว

      @GandaBaer I read they're a bit smaller than standard sizing but wider in the toe box. When I ordered my hokas, I read that they can be a bit more narrow, so I bought my normal size, but wide. The paradigm, I bought a half-size bigger, but standard width. They fit very similarly but the hokas feel longer on my foot at a size 9.5W than the paradigms at a 10 standard. The back of the heel in the paradigms also isn't as stiff as the arahis, if that makes a difference to you!

  • @stacylevias6217
    @stacylevias6217 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wear Brooks Ghost for everyday trainer. I also have to Hoka Mach 5 which i wear for walking running. What Alta compares to those. I feel the Hoka is too soft for a everyday trainer

  • @trailsandbeers
    @trailsandbeers ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Unfortunately I never found an Altre that fits and/or is comfortable despite trying many different models.
    I use Topo and Hoka 2E because they are a better fit, better quality and also as a non essential bonus look nicer than Altra imo.

  • @thierryung9387
    @thierryung9387 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think I would have compared the models: Mach4/5 vs Vanish Tempo, Clifton vs Torin, Paradigm vs Bondi, Provison vs Arahi, Carbon X vs Vanish Carbon, Escalante vs Rincon. But in the end, no comparison is possible. Thick and rigid sole with drop VS flex sole with zero drop. The stride is completely different. I run in Hoka and Altra, and the further I go, the less I use the Hoka. Hoka disrupts my stride, and I lose all the training I did with the Altra.

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  ปีที่แล้ว

      Good comparison models there. Lot of fun stuff to debate doing this.

  • @einatsinger5496
    @einatsinger5496 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What is the best shoes for planter fasciitis?

  • @PS-ww4zg
    @PS-ww4zg ปีที่แล้ว

    I hear the toe in the altra escalante 3 is more narrow than the 2.5, is there really that much difference?

  • @wendybeattie6935
    @wendybeattie6935 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What works for plantar fasciitis and shin splints?

  • @akmargo
    @akmargo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello. What would be the best for plantar fasciitis? Thank you

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Any shoes that are labeled as stability shoes work best for plantar fasciitis. The stability shoes that Altra offers include the Paradigm 7 and Provision 8. These shoes are built with a higher arch profile and Altra's GuideRail technology to keep your foot nice and supported. The stability shoes that Hoka offers are the Arahi 6 and Gaviota 5. Similar to the Altras, they have a higher arch profile. Hoka uses its proprietary J-Frame and H-Frame technologies to keep your foot supported.

  • @tentimetex
    @tentimetex ปีที่แล้ว

    Its kinda confusing....i'm someone who has a high arch and i strike with the left corner/right corner of my heel. The result is that my shoes are always worn out on the left/right hand corners of the heel of the soles, to the point where i have to buy new shoes, even if the rest of the shoe and the sole are fine! I am not sure about whether the Torin 6 or the Provision, because i keep hearing the same characteristics for both models...

  • @johnp9650
    @johnp9650 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I really enjoyed this! It'd be great to see the same comparison (Altra & Hoka) of each brand's trail shoes.
    Also, I wonder what type of insole is a good replacement in Altra's for someone with a high arch. I love the cushiness of the Altra insoles and would like to swap them for something comparable. Is there something by Altra?

    • @Ari--d
      @Ari--d ปีที่แล้ว +1

      altra would tell you your arch should not be supported

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The tricky part with swapping an insole in an Altra shoe is it changes the drop. Most over-the-counter insoles have a few millimeters of lift to the heel. Currex makes an insole for high arches that is zero drop. That would be a good one to check out.

  • @Brian_Gonzales
    @Brian_Gonzales ปีที่แล้ว

    If im proe to ingrown toenails which of these would be better?

  • @bettyb1581
    @bettyb1581 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had to return the womens bondi 7 wide . My high instep and arches & bunion didn't fit. Too bad they don't have xw or xxw

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would try looking into the Altra Torin 6 wide. It is essentially a 2E for women's, which is a double wide. You would have to size up in the Altras though.

  • @BrunoDECOURCY
    @BrunoDECOURCY 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Since I started to run with Altra shoes (after ASICS, Adidas, Mizuno and Nike to list a few), I wont go back to a shoe which doesnt offer Zero Drop.
    Jus bought mu new pair of Altra yesterday by the way in the only shop in Malaysia which carry this brand…

  • @murtubillo
    @murtubillo ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you believe that the Torin is cushier than the Paradigm? Paradigm has a higher stack height but you mentioned it is denser to provide stability.

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Torin is a little softer just because it is not stable but its not a large difference

  • @blakesherman
    @blakesherman 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What shoe do you recommend if I have plantar fasciitis? Hoka causes me pain now .

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Any shoes that are classified as stability shoes will help with plantar fasciitis. From Hoka, there's the Arahi 6 and Gaviota 5. From Altra, there is the Provision 8 and Paradigm 7. Some other popular options include the Brooks Beast, Mizuno Wave Horizon, and the New Balance Vongo.

  • @GriffRunning
    @GriffRunning 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Even with the 3 fits…all 3 Altra fits fit better than any Hoka.

  • @filoIII
    @filoIII ปีที่แล้ว

    Zero drop is a no go 4 me.

  • @britt5753
    @britt5753 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the closest to a Haltra? I love the toe box of an Altra, but my insipid foot likes the rocker system of a Hoka. Is the Vanish along those lines?

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  ปีที่แล้ว

      We recommend looking into either the Via Olympus or the Vanish Tempo. The Via Olympus is Altra's version of a Hoka Bondi. It has maximum cushion, a high stack height, and a rocker geometry which gives it a toe-off similar to a Hoka. The Vanish Tempo is Altra's faster training/racing shoe. It has a similar rocker geometry to the Via but is made to be more responsive and less plush than the Via. The Vanish will also feel narrow for Altra standards due to the slim Footshape fit. The Via would be better for everyday use thanks to the Plush cushioning whereas the Vanish Tempo is better for fast-paced workouts or tempo running thanks to the responsive cushioning.

  • @crazydaysss2546
    @crazydaysss2546 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am a HOKA fan but I am attracted by the idea of trying Altra.
    What about Altra durability? There’s a lot of buzz about them not being the best on quality and also on their website there are a lot of bad reviews and comments…a lot

    • @DanielOutdoors
      @DanielOutdoors ปีที่แล้ว

      They dont last long, but they are comfortable (after your transition!!!) And the thing is, Altras will benefit your knees, back ancles and feet on the longer run when your grow old. Why?
      Because your feet naturally grow and have shape around Altra, Vivobarefoot or Xero Shoe. Hookas, on the other side do the opposite and trick your mind on the short runs

    • @ricksquires6218
      @ricksquires6218 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've run in Altra's for many years and the durability and quality of construction has declined over the years and now I am running in Hoka's. For example, the Altra Rivera 2's that I have run a half size small, the tongue does not stay in place and I saw significant wear on them after two hundred miles. They are my lawn mowing shoes now. I started running in a pair of Hoka Mach 4's about five months ago and I love them.

    • @DanielOutdoors
      @DanielOutdoors ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ricksquires6218 Yeah but good luck when you get old with 5mm of incl on your heel muscles and knee joint, wjen you get older...

    • @ricksquires6218
      @ricksquires6218 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DanielOutdoors I am old (almost 66) and I have been running for over 30 years. The only major injury I've had is a meniscus tear which happened while I was running in the Rivera 2's.

    • @DanielOutdoors
      @DanielOutdoors ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ricksquires6218 jupp and I know plenty of runners, and old people too, wich alls problem is their balance when they reach 80. If you got hurt due to the Rivera is problaby because your muscles and joints under your feet, have an arch or bunions for running and walking with the unatural shoes all your life, apart from when you where born. The habitually shod foot has weaker intrinsic muscles and ligaments with less plantar fascia when you run AND WALK over time with barefoot stile shoes.. You see when the arch collapses, the muscles and tendons provide less elastic recoil - possibly leading to injuries. So if you didnt use the Rivera 2 as supposed, and straight went for a run with those (Because I know PLENTY OF PEOPLE like I said who has dont exactly that) have to take a break from injury. But there are those who follow instructions, from both Altra, Xero Shoes or Vivobarefoot, and Im one of them, and surely has gain 60% stronger feet, joints and muscles as well as improved my balance and reduced trouble pain.. Hookas are like pissing in the wind or weating your pants, because the trouble with those start later...

  • @stanman7545
    @stanman7545 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the Bondi eight run better to size than the Bondi seven? The Bondi seven was a very narrow fitting shoe in my opinion. I could not wear the Bondi seven. The Bondi six had a much better Tru-Fit than the Bondi seven. Is the Bondi eight more to a true size?

    • @bengoey
      @bengoey ปีที่แล้ว

      The Bondi have wide and extra wide options

  • @bettyboop1524
    @bettyboop1524 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video, thanks. I've recently felt I need to get a decent shoe for walking/treadmill. I live in "Chucks" and all these high shoes scare me. I tried a lot on at running store and came home with the asics GT4000 2. I've worn them walking on my treadmill for two days and find that even though they are cushy my toes rub on the side. I will be taking them back. This was the first time I've had my feet measured in ages - they're a lot bigger and flatter than I thought. I tried one pair on which IMO looked like clown shoes but they felt awkward walking in them. I'm going to ask about the Altra when I take the ascis back. I haven't worn anything besides my "Chucks" or UGG slippers. Any suggestions?

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  ปีที่แล้ว

      We appreciate your support for our channel! If you have been living in the Converse Chuck Taylors we would recommend looking at some models from Altra. They will give the closest flat sole “skate shoe” feel thanks to all of their shoes having zero heel drop and having a minimal stack height when compared to other brands. People with flatter feet have a tendency to pronate so we recommend either the Provision or the Paradigm. Both of these shoes are stable shoes that have a higher arch profile to help them provide more support for people with flatter, falling arches.

    • @bettyboop1524
      @bettyboop1524 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RunMoore thank you, I'll look into that brand.

  • @evy684
    @evy684 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wear the Bondi wide. Does the Torin have wide also ?

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It does! It's the only road model that actually comes in a wide version. The Lone Peak also comes in a wide model.

  • @fnaust
    @fnaust ปีที่แล้ว

    For me no competition, Altra has wide toe box and zero drop, wins by far. Best for the strengthening and health of feet.

  • @susanc.7514
    @susanc.7514 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm trying to decide weather to buy Altra or Hoka or Topo. I would like to get a pair of Altra but not sure since I have a bunion on R. Toe. I have a pair of Topo's but they look clownish. I've never tried on the Altra but don't know if there toe friendly. Please help!

    • @RunMoore
      @RunMoore  ปีที่แล้ว

      That Altra's are foot shaped so they have a similar vibe as the Topo on the toe (although Altra did it first!). They can be a game changer for bunion pain when you get the right model for your needs. I hear comments on how clownish a foot-shaped toe box looks but I promise, you have walked by a zillion people in Altras/topos and never noticed the toe box. I also have a bunion issue and when it is hurting I would wear anything just to make it feel better. For me, shoe comfort for my foot always outweighs the look.

  • @NikhilonYT
    @NikhilonYT 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Clifton is comparable to the Torin and the Escalante is more like a Rincon. The Via Olympus is the Bondi of Altra