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- The 1933 British penny is one of the most famous coins in the world. I'm not saying this is definitely a heist movie waiting to happen... but I do think someone should write it. ■ Thanks to the team at Baldwin's, and the penny's owner, for letting me film it! www.baldwin.co.uk/
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For once, I didn't convert the title of the video to US dollars. It didn't seem right somehow.
Karlo Vujčić
As a US viewer, I appreciate that.
As an American, I applaud you
You did say "one pence", though.
This isn't real Tom Scott. Real Tom Scott should've written this a week ago.
Not only does this indeed need to be a film, but halfway through Tom needs to do a cameo where he's pretending to shoot this very video, the publication of which kickstarting suspicion towards the already active team working their way into the foundations, putting an extra time-sensitive element of suspense into the script.
Yes!
I unironically want to see this.
Maybe this video is that cameo
The building crew are in on it! Put up the tape, stop people entering! Erect a white tent over the suspected place of digging, people will think there is a body in the tent and avoid it naturally.
@@twobycurrycat MIND=BLOWN
Tom Scott "For Legal Reasons, That's a Joke"
*Tom “For legal reasons, thats a joke” Scott*
spot on. utterly spot on.
"If I thought this was a good idea, I wouldn't be telling you about it for free. I'm telling you because I think it's a terrible idea but a great movie premise."
Seriously, though, risk and effort vs reward isn't a particularly great proposition here. Even if I were a criminally-minded Brit, I'd pass on that one.
@@dynamicworlds1 Yes. It seems like an enormous, well-frequented building, so I don't think you could get away with it.
is that a reference?
I inherited a set of English coins from my grandfather. I never knew why there wasn't a 1933 penny and now I do!
@Account will be deleted on September 11th should have deleted the account
@@dc7993 It's February, not September.
@@dc7993 huh
@@dc7993 ??
That's just what someone who's grandfather stole a set of coins from underneath a church would say.
Tom I really appreciate your continued effort to promote captions on videos as standard by walking the walk and including them on all your content. As someone who needs them it feels so good to be seen and not have to worry if I'm getting the whole message
I love how the last 30-40 seconds of this just felt like more and more incriminating evidence
Great album 🤘🏽
SuS
If Tom's job were to be the distraction during a heist in London...
He'd make a video that day about an idea for a different heist in London.
Including the end wall plate showing a potential point of interest - the “South Block” 🤔
few days later the coin goes missing
The transitions between the different buildings were too smooth
A lot of effort went in this video too West Yorkshire is about 4 and a half hours away from London by car.
Not that cut at 1:04 tho haha
Agreed, great photography work
can you believe Tom has teleportation powers and only uses them to make the videos better for us? what a swell guy!
nice to see you here:) I really appreciate your work.
A related story: Workers digging a drain in St Leonard's Place in York discovered 10,000 9th-century Northumbrian coins.
Numb diggers 😂😂
Tom would be the ideal heist robber for never being identified...
Police: 'How old would you say the robber was?'
Witness: 'Umm...somewhere between 20 and 50?'
😂
The tricky part, I think, is figuring out a plan that isn't more expensive than the value of the coins.
Yep, even without the heist complicating stuff, the cost of simply digging it up legally would likely exceed the value of the coin.
Probably so. Depends on what is necessary to get at it, one actually was stolen apparently while others have been legally sold, so I'm guessing they weren't too difficult to access. I'd imagine it depends on how deeply buried they are, and under what. A smaller building, like those churches, probably aren't that difficult to dig through the foundation, while Senate House would be a bit more challenging, likely buried deeper under a more solid concrete foundation. Probably could only be extracted for less than that cost if the building is being demolished or at least significantly renovated, and of course doing it clandestine would be even more challenging. Probably the majority that have been sold were buildings that have been demolished. But even that would be a challenge, finding it below a mound of rubble.
So we train some moles....
@@marsrover001 We're all wasting our time analyzing the practical concerns of digging it out while this guy's living in 2122.
Orchestrate the "renovation" of the building - with a real construction company, who thinks it's an ordinary project - then have a few of your guys disguised as construction workers who dig down, supposedly to build a basement.
Fun fact, we have our own rare, expensive penny in the US.
In 1943, the US needed to conserve copper use for the war effort, so the pennies minted that year, normally in copper, were instead minted in steel.
The steel ones aren't common, by any means, it's only one year.
But for the briefest period in 43, they still used copper. Google says there are 40 known real 43 copper pennies in existence.
If you can find a real one (counterfeits are common, unsurprisingly), it usually sells for 100,000 to 250,000 dollars.
So that’s why it’s in my grandpas coin collection
The 1933 Double Eagle is a bit more rare because only 2 are known to exist and quite expensive at 18.9 million dollars but still, nice coin
@@Brainless_Memer it's the rarest also we are talking about pennies fool
@@OBWInspector didn’t need to get offended but ok
would they check for cesium or something to see if it's real? or would 43 be too late to avoid nuclear contamination?
Looking forward to “Why fencing stolen goods is harder than it looks in the movies”
I think that is material for *two different* Heist movies:
1. A proper heist movie that plays it straight, presumably with the thieves getting away with it by the skin of their teeth.
2. A heist comedy that goes a bit *too* smoothly at the beginning, just for someone to accidentally give it as change to someone, and through shenanigans it occurs that the group of thieves then consistently *just misses* the coin as they bumble the way through from location to location, until they finally retrieve it, just for it to turn out that historians or a news report or something got the year wrong and the coin they hunted for the duration of the movie was almost worthless, so they give it away to some homeless guy, and the next day it turns out that that *specific coin* was a misprint that made it worth *billions*, and the previously poor sod cashed it in immediately.
Thank you sir, you made my day
Absolutely brilliant, I would love to watch a movie with this exact plot
The second one is kinda similar to the plot of "Lock, Stock and Two Smocking Barrels" by Guy Richie except with rare coins instead of rear guns.
@@nir_stern02 We should get Guy Ritchie to make the second one, and Tom Scott can star as the person who "accidentally" tells our protagonists where the coins are buried
And then Vinnie Jones can smash his face in with a car door
I feel like the second option is exactly what's gonna happen.
The Endcard is a hint from Tom.
It clearly is burried somewhere beneath the South Block!
Thank you Tom, I will mention you on my trial!
also an anagram of senate house south block is "dig down and turn left"
@@slicedpage are you sure about that?
@@mchanna06 there might be some artistic licence there....a smidgin perhaps...or maybe a big dollop
you are unequivocally accurate
My research indicates that “Senate House South Block” is an anagram for "Sleuth shut one bookcase," which is utterly unhelpful.
Tomorrow"s Video: "There was a £100,000 coin buried under this London building"
If any director does turn this idea into a film, Tom absolutely should have a cameo in it.
If you’re going to make a heist film, Senate House is the perfect filming location since it’s already a major filming location. It’s featured in Batman Begins and Dark Knight Rises and most recently in the latest James Bond. TV shows like The Crown have also used it.
When you know the building very well (I studied there) it’s very fun to see its corridors and halls pop up in random films and major productions.
Great idea, the film crew can be a front for the real heist.
@@InShortSight r/cursedcomments
@@InShortSight i second that and want Tom to head the heist 😅
And in (the Terry Gilliam film) Brazil too.
that could be how george cloony / miriam margoles* decides to cover the fact they are stealing the coins (*depending on budget)
i was lowkey expecting Tom to enter the building and perform the heist while calmly describing the steps to the camera
"As you can see, they have several security measures in place. However, this type of card reader can be foiled with this aluminium foil, a credit card and a hammer"
@@freddierhodes8201 "Now, usually if you were to use these kinds of power tools inside a building the noise would draw a lot of attention. But... remember what I said about construction work being done around here right now?"
Why has spell-check come up with a word that doesn't exist as a suggestion for 'actually'.
*LockPickingLawyer has entered the chat*
Tom Scott casually teleporting around London, while making it appear as if it were only editing
As a schoolchild in the 1960s we needed pennies for our bus fares. We were well aware a very limited number of coins had been minted in 1933. Rumour was one coin was missing and likely to be valuable. So every penny was checked. We were not aware coins had been buried in the foundations of buildings. So the chances of finding one in general circulation would have been zero. It did help develop an interest in coins however.
This came out of a conversation at the stamp dealership from a few weeks ago! It turns out the 1933 penny is also commonly forged: people take a 1935 penny and try to reshape the 5s into 3s. That was a whole other thread that didn't fit into this video, alas!
huh
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I used to have one, until it was stolen by somebody who thought it was genuine and tried to sell it in NZ a few years ago😄
As a metal detecting and coin collection channel primarily, I clicked this video right away!
The rarest coin I own is is an American 1873 doubled liberty indian head cent worth about $2,000.
The rarest coin I found with my metal detector in 10 years is a 1921 Standing liberty quarter worth about $180.
A £100,000 coin would be a dream find!
Ok
It’s mad how Britain and the USA have a very rare penny made in 1933.
@Rollz Snipe much?
@Rollz Yes, a shameless self promotion. Big TH-camrs rarely do videos on coins, so I was excited. =P
@@JDsVarietyChannel we do not care
Millions of people will see this video, the chances of a Tom Scott subscriber seeing this and actually attempting this is probably at least 5%
I just love how your videos have titles that look clickbaity but are actually 100% truthful.
The introduction is already amazing. I want to see that movie now.
S0d0mite 🤢
That pfp = L + bozo
@@Arthur-fs5vl we’ll do I have a tom Scott video for you
the obvious twist is either "its not where Dr. Brains said it would be..." (and then they find it about 3m to the left), or "hold on... this is a 1934 penny... where's the original?"
1932, you'd think they wouldn't time travel a penny from the future when making the building.
Por que no las dos?
@@doctormo i think it was more that it had been replaced
@@doctormo The twist is that somebody has since dug it up and replaced it with a newer coin, meaning the original is still out there
@@antonhelsgaun I believe someone capable of swapping them would think of using a 1932 penny to avert suspicion. Unless they want to get famous for it, of course.
0:26 is the best frame ive ever paused on
Waiting for that movie
I like how Tom Scott doesn’t make videos needlessly long. Just enough time to properly cover the subject, no fluff.
He’s one of the very few on TH-cam that doesn’t add fluff, has quality, and has a good output of videos.
And just enough time to properly case the joint :P
Yes, I like his short videos, in this 'fast world' we live in.
It also doesn't matter how long a video is, thats an old youtubers wives tale that you need 10 minutes,
@@krazus2036as a person that remembers when the ten minutes was a real thing, hearing it called a wives tale makes me feel old
A small part of me was hoping for a massive meter+-sized 100,000£ coin
Like the one in batman
I KNOW!!!!!!!
ME TOO
The British version of the Trillion Dollar Coin
@@janmelantu7490 Although moving onto notes rather than coins, there are £100m notes for transfers between banks.
It wouldn't actually be that big, the one tonne kangaroo coin produced by the Perth Mint is only 80cm in diameter, and it has a value of over $50 million. The Royal Canadian Mint has also made a 100 kilo gold coin that people could actually buy rather than being a one off, and one of them was stolen from a gallery in Germany and melted down for its millions of dollars in bullion value.
Gotta be one of my top rated information/learning youtubers.
I allways learn something new and interesting and the videos allways keep me focused. Good job 👏 👍
You know what they say "in for a rare 1933 20 foot underground penny in for a pound"
If somebody really did make a heist film about this subject they need to get Tom Scott to at minimum cameo in it.
What better way to use his new skill at jumping through windows?
maybe even feature the exact video as inspiratio n for the thieves? :0
One of the rarest and most valuable American coins, the 1933 double eagle (one just sold for $19 million), is from the same year.
It was a good year for rare coins.
Sup cutie
@@madrish7226 that’s a guy
This seems... Symbolic.
@@thisguy9458 ops my bad 😛
I always see your video, am delighted, decide to put it on watch later list, realize it's very short and watch it right away. Thank you Tom.
imagine some filmmakers decided to make some low budget film about the coin then found the actual coin, now they had a budget.
the camera transition btw the different buildings is actually sick
btw for "between", not "by the way"
Felt straight out of Ocean's eleven
I came here to say the same. That took me by surprise because it was so smooth.
How was that done?
Never seen btw used like that
@@Cowmilker98 Fkin saaaame
Film producers: when you need someone to deliver the exposition for your 1933 penny coin heist movie you must cast Tom Scott in that role.
They should just show the main character watching this very video.
As a University of London dropout this is very exciting to me
I love your videos - very little fluff, no unnecessary intros or greetings. You did your research, you have the facts, you're at the place. Begin - teach - get the hell out. You're a king!
"How do I make this sound not sarcastic?" is the curse of most Brits.
Well, yes. Because usually we are being sarcastic and it would be a waste if no one noticed. 😀
Everything an Englishman says is irony.
Yes, how do you make this sound less sarcastic....
Tom is going to be responsible for a future heist of this coin i'd imagine.
This is probably going to be the plot for the next Red Notice movie.
If anyone noticed that a coin was stolen you couldn't sell it.
@@gubblfisch350 Some collectors don't care. Also what if they stole one of the legitimate ones then they could double up after? Just thinking of more plot ideas.
Hahah so silly
I definitely get the feeling this is Tom’s attempt to get a heist crew together.
1:49
That transission was perfectly on point!
there are probably easier ways to make 200,000 pounds than digging up the foundations of a large building in the middle of London
not about the pounds its about sending a message
100*
The time and money you would spend digging that entire buildings foundation to find it, is probably worth 200,000 pounds in material cost and labour , maybe even more
In fact, you could start a construction company and make that kind of money by just digging up dirt.
@Gaarnet It depends how many collectors want it. If there is only one collector then it will go for a lower price. If there are, say a half-dozen enthusiastic collectors with deep pockets, it could go for £200k or more.
Cost you that in permits and congestion charges.
If a person did find such a coin in their grandparents coin collection, how would that be handled. If you knew they never bought it, and it could be assumed that they were the ones who stole it, would you be obligated to return it, would it be taken away, or would it essentially be yours at that point?
Steal the stolen coin, and then sell it before moving to a tropical island in texas.
What an interesting question. Commenting to get pinged on answers.
Under English law it would belong to the person it was stolen from. “You cannot sell what you do not own” Anyone keeping or attempting to sell the coin once they knew it was stolen would be guilty of handling stolen goods. The best thing they could do would be to hand to over to the authorities as long as they were not responsible for the original theft
It wouldn’t matter if someone bought the coin in good faith, under English law it’s still not theirs
This is a post that just _screams_ to have "asking for a friend" written at the end. :D
Obscure and interesting facts delivered in an intreating way, You've done it again Tom!
Tom always finds the most unheard of, but interesting topics to talk about right
How incredible would it be to make a heist movie about stealing this coin, filming on location and using that as a cover to actually steal the real coin
Brilliant. I want to take this one level further, and see a movie _about_ this exact idea. It would be like _Ocean's Eleven_ meets _Argo_ and, why not, use filming of _that_ movie as cover to actually _actually_ steal the coin, while we're at it.
feels like we're searching for Horcruxes; Harry counted them back in his head, "Three are held privately, two are in museums, one I think is under this church..."
Grow up
Lmao
Damn they have museums in Harry Potter? Thats crazy
Just commenting my appreciation for those wipe transitions while walking, starting at 1:50. Amazingly well planned and executed!!
That brought back memories of my childhood in the 50s. I tried for many years to get one penny from each year - not knowing it was impossible! Younger viewers probably look at this coin and think it's something like the modern 'penny' - wrong, it was HUGE! In the days when I got 6d pocket money and Mars Bars were 4d, you often used to have quite a few of these in your pockets - but not for long, the lining couldn't take the weight!
On the subject of conversion to US money, my sister had an American pen pal just about the time of decimalisation, so I remember that just before the new pennies came in, the old ones were worth exactly a cent (so £1 was worth $2.4). Nothing like these days of near parity... Mind you, when I was a kid a half-crown (2/6 - 12.5p) was also known as 'half a dollar', so I'd guess that the £ had been worth even more 20 years or so earlier.
Tom trying to sound not sarcastic is so endearing
Recently, a coin from the 1200s was discovered and will make at least £400,000 in auction. Your timing is impeccable
Got any links for interested people??
@@lucie4185 One article I found is titled "Hoard of 1,200-year-old 'Arabian Nights' gold coins in an ancient 'piggy bank' discovered in Israel on the fourth day of Hanukkah", published by Daily Mail on December 31st 2019. Happy Reading!
That would be classed as treasure in the uk and would there for belong to the state the find would get compensation of some sort but they find ultimately would not belong to them.
@@petejammo88 since it wasn't part of a greater historic discovery it wasn't. Since the gold was imported it doesn't belong to the Queen. It's not allowed to be kept by the country as a result.
Only gold found naturally in the UK belongs to the state. This was imported and minted. It does not have ownership of the royal family
Those transitions between the locations are SO smooth! Really nice :)
Imagine the coin was just simply lying on the pavement, not picked up because people thought it was just a regular penny
This is amazing, I had no idea! And those transitions were so cool…
Ok
I love your videos!
Collab when?
Of course TH-cam's famous numismatist would be here... :P
Hi Chris. I guess Tom called you in for editing advice. He's struggling....again.
And some things that should not have been forgotten were lost. History became legend, legend became myth, and for about 90 or so years, the Coin passed out of all knowledge. Until, when chance came, it ensnared a new bearer.
Tom Scott: It's... it's just a coin. I don't have any plans... my precious...
@Rob Bannstrom I could think of a lot worse people to be the dark lord than Tom Scott. 😃 It would be a bleak and dark time, but at least it'd be entertainingly educational!
"You've probably never heard of the Shire, but bear with me, I promise this is interesting..."
"After all, why shouldn't I?"
"how do I make this sound not sarcastic?"
cut to plaque, hold that shot as the closing image
cut to half a second of Tom sprinting, slightly covered in dirt and mud, building in the background, gleeful/triumphant look briefly on his face, right before the end of the video
A worm probably slid across that coin and was like “Dang, this isn’t dirt”
"How do I make this sound not sarcastic" I spat out my coffee laughing :)
The transitions in this are fantastic
@3:06 - I like how some bikes have been jacked just where he's stood talking about the potential of a heist movie XD
The fact that its buried in way way long time ago,
And historic Value, and the fact that They are buried under buildings,
I think they should be valued for Millions.
The jumpcuts to different locations 👌
No, this is definitely the plot for a British Ocean’s-11 style heist.
definitely a Guy Ritchie movie
11 tough looking guys in a warehouse, surrounded by elaborate equipment, vans, uniforms, guns, etc...
" 'ow mooch a' we loo'in' make frum thus, Gov?"
"An 'oonded... thousan'... poons!"
(Cockney gasps)
(Anyone who's watched UK game-show prizes compared to their US counterparts will hopefully get this.)
@@nairocamilo Actually, a Technical Difficulties movie...
More like British National Treasure.
Ah yes, TH-cam ads know I was watching Tom Scott now. How amazing
1:51 and 2:06 - Respect for getting TWO perfect transitions between selfie-shots with you in the EXACT same position!
Tom Scott perfected the walking transition.
Thanks Tom! I'm already hard at work sourcing original blueprints and meticulously planning out my heist route in methodical detail, thanks for the suggestion, this is going to be great fun
I mean eaiser thing to do, steal one of the other five coins in poseesion of a human at this point and claim you found it under the building. What are they gonna do to prove you wrong, go dig up the other coin?
My grandparents owned a shop in the 1970s and they swore they had taken in a 1933 penny. We hunted high and low for it but never found it. i have wondered if it could be in the house still somewhere.
It was probably a 1933 HALFPENNY, which is common.
100000£ coin in the wrapping of a fridge magnet. A worthy presentation
Thats like finding a needle in a hay stack! The part with the needle stays quite unchanged, small metal object, the part with the hay gets *a little bit more complicated*
@Account will be deleted on September 11th There's no joke in there. It's not supposed to be one. If you don't have the exact location finding the penny under the building is like looking for a needle in a haystack.
Imagine digging this up in the future
Wonder how much it would be worth then...
Probably around one billion pounds. Just enough to get you a loaf of bread. History doesn't repeat itself. It rhymes. And we've just entered the twenties...
a ton
@@wendigockel inflation here we go!
Wendigo Yep because as we know we just spent the mid- to late-2010s in a devastating world war
I'm a coin collector and I own three of these pennies with the same design. They are not from 1933 however ! I've got a 1913, 1920, and 1921. Got really excited when I saw the thumbnail 😅
I think every single penny from 1860-1970 has that design, although George V specifically would be 1910-1936.
Plot twist: Tom has one of these coins and making a viral video of it is part of a pump-and-dump scheme.
I do love coins and collecting them
God damn it, why is this so well done. Why are they ALL so well done?!
Because Tom is a professional and he's got lots of experience
He's hired a whole production company to make this video, plus he's good at videography after producing thousands of hours worth of high-quality video footage
God damn, the transition between each scene is sooooooo freaking smooth
Amazing piece of information. Thanks for your videos.
Your videos always seem to be brief, factual and straight to the point - I like that (very well done).
Well said!
That 1993 penny my Granny dug up while at University in London has always interested me. Anyway time to watch the video 👍🏼
If the heist movie gets made, I hope they cast Tom as the guy who explains what it is they're heisting
Well done, and brilliantly edited. Great craftsmanship.
I second that! Well said!
The coin is in an older NGC slab and the owner really should have it regraded with PCGS. The newer slabs don't come up to the edge of the coin and are much better display. My family owns a jewelry and coin shop in Texas, we have been in business for 13 years and see British penny's all the time. Many of the pennies people have are from the Grandfathers coming back from WWII. We actually have a free coins box that we let kids pick out coins from and there are always pennies, francs, lira, etc in there. I am an avid American coin collector myself and always enjoy video's about them. I did know the story of the '33 Penny but you did a good job telling it.
The free coin box is a lovely marketing idea.
No matter if the kids like the face, shape, country or whatever of the coin they picked:
Even a worthless coin tells a story of where it is from, what is pressed on it, when it was made, how it was used etc.
Kind of sad that the euro removed that aspect of European travel.
On the other hand: It is nice to travel through Europe and the only thing you learn is that the Netherlands do not accept 1 or 2 cent coins. Meanwhile traveling Scotland... I think I still have some of those Scottish "I owe you coins" paper-slips they use instead of a legal tender. Fun souvenir - but not really money.
With a coin like this, who it's graded by is meaningless.
It's all about authentication. (I also notice they didn't mention the grade. Maybe an MS-60 to MS-63?)
@@sarowie Every European country making their own different Euro coins means you still get quite a lot of variety.
@@Backroad_Junkie It's partly cut off, but at 1:36 it looks like it was graded MS-63 BN (brown patina). And I think they were recommending PCGS not on the basis of authentication, but because the edge of the coin would be visible in a newer-style slab.
@@mattgies just out of pure curiosity, what is grading whan it comes to coins. Does it mean condition, amount of wear etc,as with second hand books, ie fair ,poor,foxed (that's marking caused by damp),which then is stated as series of figures/letters?
I think £200k is probably a bit low for an Ocean's style heist. But say you had to collect all seven of them for a wealthy and unscrupulous numismatist for an order of magnitude or two higher than that...
Oh a movie about trying to dug up the coin from this building, while they try to steal the others coins in private collections, museums, etc. in order to get the rumored 7 coins.
@@chikitronrx0 plus, there are SEVEN of them. I mean, it's the best number for this kind of thing. Call them Ocean's 7 and you're good to go!
"Seven for the British Lords, in their halls of stone".
Then they get to summon Gogmagog, the giant protector of British Isles to grant one wish.
(he's real btw)
@@Mainyehc Or just transform them into a Super Penny.
Tom is making this so he doesn't raise suspicion when it "mysteriously" goes missing
i love your videos. i appreciate the time and effort you put in
I understand the plan Tom. I will set it into motion. Good luck at your end.
This is so cool! I collect coins and love history around them.
Welcome to the team
thanks for being the best on TH-cam, Tom
The cost of pulling off that heist would be more than £100,000
it mostly depends on where exactly it was buried and how deep.
Now, now, don't let that kinda thing spoil the fun!
@@patifuso7562 A half meter hole on London real estate is worth more than £100,000
But it would get George Clooney his girlfriend back, and that's priceless.
I've got a shovel and a map of london sewers, what else do I need
As a coin collector this is really nice to see this topic being covered.
What an icoinic fact! And what a preciously amazing video, sir!
The transition at 1:51 is 4 frames long, yet it's perfectly alligned
Those wipe transitions were so smooth! Loved that. Well done, Tom.
"How do I make it not sound sarcastic"
That's 100% me when I try to compliment somebody
Great info on the 1933 Penny. Thanks for sharing. 👍😎🌸
Love when you upload ❤️❤️ Stay safe everyone!
Coins can be insanely expensive if they’re rare, and they can found in the most random locations. This is a prime example
A lot of coins get lost behind the sofa. This coin is lost under a building...