I did that at work 28 years ago but it was cast iron, lol. My problem was I was drilling through bullet proof wall my first time ever and just thought, Man this craps rough! I work at a Police dept. Luckily it was clamped just above false ceiling upstairs and in false ceiling in basement. Workers had left a 10 ft piece in mechanical room and I was able to use rest of pipe to redo cheaply. Big time learning experience!
Hey I’m new subscriber I’m maintenance technician at a apartment complex. Just wanted to say I really enjoyed your video s and learned some neat tricks you do . It’s a leaker
I gotta say Steve. I'm 33 and a Supervisor of a pretty big wastewater treatment plant. Pretty good job... But watching you makes me want to be a plumber and record all my jobs and post on TH-cam. That's the truth.
@ 00:59, +steven lavimoniere, for a second, I was concerned that your mechanic had piped the new turbo in with 2-inch PVC. Glad to see your service truck return to duty!
I have a question Steven.Why you have to cut the pipe and attach an extra piece and then you use a clamps, instead just use a clamp over the holes ? Thank you.
I'm not a plumber, just maintenance tech. In a resort with 4 towers with 700 condos, we have this kinda stuff all the time. Owner decided to install towel bar in the bathroom and things start to happen, best part is most had put the screw thru the drain pipe months or even years before the leak, it only starts to leak due to the screw started to rust, to make things worse the water travels to a different condo stack (like unit 1002 instead to run down to 902 it goes to 905/906/907..... it can drive you nuts.
about 10 years ago i was working with a rookie maintenance tech and we were replacing a tub drain..i told him to take a razor knife and score and cut the drywall while i go get rest of what we needed..of course he grabs the sawzall to save time with a 6 inch blade and goes crazy and ends up cutting both hot/cold lines..downstairs unit completely flooded tenant comes out yelling and screaming ..i had the main shut off in about one minute but it was to late..fun times...they did not even wait til end of day to fire him lol.
That is typical of new construction too.The sub-contractor of towel bars, closet shelving, mirrors, etc. drill, nail, etc. into plumbing pipes all the time. To me the GC should be there with the plumber or the superintendent to show the sub locations of waterline and drain pipes before the towel bars,tissue holder, mirrors, shelving, and wall and base cabinets goes in. Good find Steve. Your years of experience gives you the X-ray visions that very few people have. Great video. If that lady keeps singing she may crack some pipes and the whole house will flood.☔️
Hey Steve wouldn’t it be possible to cut the rubber clamp and just put it around the holes instead of cutting out the whole pipe or that wouldn’t be the right way to do it?
Could have done anything with it, if the water is coming down vertical in a wide pipe like that. Could silicone it and clamp it, or put anything around it. People change bathrooms so often nowadays. Its not like the water is going to go through silcone covered by a band of any sort it will never come out!
The person who installed the towel rack had to have known that he it the pipe. Looks like he used a drill first. He would have had pvc come back with the drill bit.
dunno if anyone gives a shit but if you guys are stoned like me atm you can watch all of the new movies on InstaFlixxer. Have been streaming with my gf for the last months =)
I was thinking the same as gyver471, wouldn't it be better to leave the pipe intact, plug the holes with a good substance - and then clamp over the holes supporting your repair on the holes?
5:15 You would assume, when drilling those two holes one feels a difference between relatively soft drywall... and relatively hard PVC pipe, they ain't thin either.
Yeah you would definitely notice drilling through drywall but most people wait listen for sound of water and think its ok becasuse they can't hear water gushing out and continue!. Pretty poor nowadays to do this sort of error twice in dry wall when you are in a bathroom assuming they could have checked the other room out to see whats behind it (which is an assumption). Going through pipes when drilling through concrete or block is more forgiveable than this. Everyone makes mistakes but if you are a pro and drilling in pipes in that way its not a good job! DIY is understandable though.
Had the same thing but in a commercial bathroom group. Cast iron riser for the second floor had five holes in it. When we put the camera down from the second floor we seen the toggle bolts. Just to show you that you can’t fix stupid.
This is a GREAT video. It will probably save me time, money and all kinds of inconvenience by using my WALABOT before I drill into my walls. Before I had the WALABOT I actually power nailed into a water supply pipe and as you can imagine, it made a big mess before I could stop the water flow. I can't believe when they build a new house they don't install emergency valves in handy place in the house. In fact they should install a valve at every water source like the tub and all sinks. It wouldn't cost much or take too long but it could save the homeowner a lot of inconvenience and money. Thanks for this very useful video. Keep e'm coming. By the way, what do you think of shark bites to do repairs and leave them inside the wall, permanently?
Haha, Rubber Ducky! Wow at the holes! Why not use a PVC coupling & glue there? Always feel like clamps can loosen up or the rubber can go bad over time. I'm not a plumber so just curious.
The problem is actually getting a pvc coupling in there if both sides of the pipe a secured. The rubbers you can slide over the patch piece then slide back over main pipe
Good thing it wasn't a supply line. An old lady did that on a third floor apt. hanging a small picture. Put a 3 inch finish nail through a copper pipe. She could of hung a piano with that nail.
Somebody needs to stop pooping inside that bathtub - that was gross - dude, clean up!!! You could just use silicon caulk, with foil water seal tape and a rubber clamp on top of it for good measure - you did not need to cut it. You could also use that clay epoxy that hardens like metal in the holes.
My first house had a basement.. water was leaking down from diverter cover.moen... foam is not water tight..now I always clear caulk all around cover..zero leak.. only way I knew I could look up...but in a closed ceiling.....you got a problem.. same with 3 handle showers no putty sealing holes.. they leak a lot.. into garage... plumbers putty was the tickey..... some lazy ass didnt do it....
Wow, unreal 😂 right now I’m looking at why my shower leaks downstairs but not the tub. So I can drain a full tub fine, but the shower leaks down to the unfinished basement. I patched up some old grout and loose tiles on the shower wall above the tub, it’s an old Italian home from the 80’s) and the leaks stopped, but then after I started renovations downstairs and removed studs and stuff, I guess things moved around because it freakin leaks again 😂
Whoever hung that towel Rod did not have a clue what they were doing first you drill a hole through the drywall then you take a finish nail and poke it through the hole to see if it's plastic or wood that's how you tell what you're drilling through then you can finish Drilling or get a stud finder.
Off topic, but looking for input. Plumbing company charged my church 4 hrs. At $100/hr. No problem there, but I was charged $95 for service call when I am first call in a.m. and their office is 5 minutes away. Since I had them do the job, should the $95 service call charge been credited to the labor charge?? What is customary?
For most companies the call fee is just that, a call fee. From the outside it can seem a little off-putting, but when you have techs running calls with 1/2 to 1 or more hours drive time to a site, would you feel it's fair if you got charged 'travel' time? Not trying to say you don't have a point, but that call fee is an equalized average that sucks for people close to the shop to balance for the far ones. Personally I try to make things a little more level for involved jobs that are 'around the corner' and split the difference to have the service fee cover the first half hour in those cases.
Was that the drain line? Could you have clamped over the holes without cutting out a section of pipe? Or silicone over the holes? Just curious. I know your work is great and you don’t do what is not necessary, So don’t take that as criticism, it’s not. I’m your biggest fan.
Could have been patched a few different ways, but it's a main vent stack, a soil stack, and behind the wall, so the best solution is full plumbing code compliance using couplings
There are a few quick fixes that probably would work ok but should they fail Steve would be liable. Better to do a proper repair whilst the wall is open and know its 100% fixed.
I wish I had a picture of a drain pipe that an electrician drilled straight through to run electrical wires. But then just globed the holes with silicone and ran the wires around the outside of the pipe. I'm not a professional by any means, but to me that would be common sense.
I did that at work 28 years ago but it was cast iron, lol. My problem was I was drilling through bullet proof wall my first time ever and just thought, Man this craps rough! I work at a Police dept. Luckily it was clamped just above false ceiling upstairs and in false ceiling in basement. Workers had left a 10 ft piece in mechanical room and I was able to use rest of pipe to redo cheaply. Big time learning experience!
I just watched one hell of a good plumber. Great job.
Sometimes plumbers have to be detectives. Good find Steven!
Wake the dead with that singing , LOL
LAMO !
hahaha, I LOVE IT!!
You did great Yankee plumber. Watched several of your videos. Good stuff.
That tub installer/towel bar is liable for that damage. Good find Steven Lav.
How is it their fault that there is a pipe without protection right against the drywall?
Good point
Use a stud finder and they would have been fine
@@JoeisHawkins wouldn't you want to screw into a stud though?
Hey I’m new subscriber I’m maintenance technician at a apartment complex. Just wanted to say I really enjoyed your video s and learned some neat tricks you do . It’s a leaker
I liked the rubber duck at the end.
I gotta say Steve. I'm 33 and a Supervisor of a pretty big wastewater treatment plant. Pretty good job... But watching you makes me want to be a plumber and record all my jobs and post on TH-cam. That's the truth.
First question you ask the owner, what was the last thing you did or had done.
Wow! I never would've figured that out! Great catch!
I guess that is the only benefit to keeping a cast iron stack
That and the big one: Less water noise inside the wall. That seemed loud when he drained the tub through the stack.
Good job! I'm looking for one now on a bathroom I did upstairs 30 years ago.
Great detective skills, Columbo! Always a school day when I watch you videos. Thanks, Steve.
Duck had me crying! Good job man!!
@ 00:59, +steven lavimoniere, for a second, I was concerned that your mechanic had piped the new turbo in with 2-inch PVC. Glad to see your service truck return to duty!
I have a question Steven.Why you have to cut the pipe and attach an extra piece and then you use a clamps, instead just use a clamp over the holes ? Thank you.
pipes don t always move up and down after they cut , so we make two cuts
I was thinking the same thing. if it will seal a cut why not a hole?
I'm not a plumber, just maintenance tech. In a resort with 4 towers with 700 condos, we have this kinda stuff all the time. Owner decided to install towel bar in the bathroom and things start to happen, best part is most had put the screw thru the drain pipe months or even years before the leak, it only starts to leak due to the screw started to rust, to make things worse the water travels to a different condo stack (like unit 1002 instead to run down to 902 it goes to 905/906/907..... it can drive you nuts.
about 10 years ago i was working with a rookie maintenance tech and we were replacing a tub drain..i told him to take a razor knife and score and cut the drywall while i go get rest of what we needed..of course he grabs the sawzall to save time with a 6 inch blade and goes crazy and ends up cutting both hot/cold lines..downstairs unit completely flooded tenant comes out yelling and screaming ..i had the main shut off in about one minute but it was to late..fun times...they did not even wait til end of day to fire him lol.
working shlub hell they should have fired you.He w
@@workingshlub8861 LMFAOOO
That is typical of new construction too.The sub-contractor of towel bars, closet shelving, mirrors, etc. drill, nail, etc. into plumbing pipes all the time. To me the GC should be there with the plumber or the superintendent to show the sub locations of waterline and drain pipes before the towel bars,tissue holder, mirrors, shelving, and wall and base cabinets goes in. Good find Steve. Your years of experience gives you the X-ray visions that very few people have. Great video. If that lady keeps singing she may crack some pipes and the whole house will flood.☔️
Great catch Steve!
Hey Steve wouldn’t it be possible to cut the rubber clamp and just put it around the holes instead of cutting out the whole pipe or that wouldn’t be the right way to do it?
my same sentiment,,.
Could have done anything with it, if the water is coming down vertical in a wide pipe like that. Could silicone it and clamp it, or put anything around it. People change bathrooms so often nowadays. Its not like the water is going to go through silcone covered by a band of any sort it will never come out!
The person who installed the towel rack had to have known that he it the pipe. Looks like he used a drill first. He would have had pvc come back with the drill bit.
Donald Scott “Not my job”
Figured either his anchors would plug it or he'd be long gone before it started leaking.
Guess the stud finder and tape measure were broke that day.
dunno if anyone gives a shit but if you guys are stoned like me atm you can watch all of the new movies on InstaFlixxer. Have been streaming with my gf for the last months =)
@Zaid Imran yup, I've been using InstaFlixxer for months myself :)
Fascinating find!!
Next catch! Always gotta expect the unexpected in this line of work
I was thinking the same as gyver471, wouldn't it be better to leave the pipe intact, plug the holes with a good substance - and then clamp over the holes supporting your repair on the holes?
Amazing! Thanks for posting.
Great Video!
Good job on the discovery.
Great job Steve
So you wanna be a plumber !!! Nice job Steve.
Bet the homeowner installed that and was hoping Steve could fix it before his wife came home!
You never know what your going to find out there! Steve is like a good Boy Scout....always prepared!
That’s crazy, thanks for sharing
Wow! Seeing the holes, my jaw dropped, LOL!
You sir are a champion!
Can I ask why you didn't just put the band over the two holes?
I would say bc the camera was rolling. Could have used one clamp instead of two.
Same question
Thank you.
Really cool my guy. Those dang remodelers
lmfao
excellent diagnostic
and also.,,the dead are now waking because of the singing
nice find seen the similar wanes coating on a wall refrigerant line
5:15 You would assume, when drilling those two holes one feels a difference between relatively soft drywall... and relatively hard PVC pipe, they ain't thin either.
Yeah you would definitely notice drilling through drywall but most people wait listen for sound of water and think its ok becasuse they can't hear water gushing out and continue!. Pretty poor nowadays to do this sort of error twice in dry wall when you are in a bathroom assuming they could have checked the other room out to see whats behind it (which is an assumption). Going through pipes when drilling through concrete or block is more forgiveable than this. Everyone makes mistakes but if you are a pro and drilling in pipes in that way its not a good job! DIY is understandable though.
If im having this problem what type of technician should I call? Whats your title?
Good find, just goes to show you, experience pays!
Had the same thing but in a commercial bathroom group. Cast iron riser for the second floor had five holes in it. When we put the camera down from the second floor we seen the toggle bolts. Just to show you that you can’t fix stupid.
I wish you are live where I live now. We need a good plumber like you
my bathroom i have access from behind. it's a master bedroom and behind a dresser is a removable sheet rock just for tub/shower plumbing
Cleaner bath than your usual. :)
This is a GREAT video. It will probably save me time, money and all kinds of inconvenience by using my WALABOT before I drill into my walls. Before I had the WALABOT I actually power nailed into a water supply pipe and as you can imagine, it made a big mess before I could stop the water flow. I can't believe when they build a new house they don't install emergency valves in handy place in the house. In fact they should install a valve at every water source like the tub and all sinks. It wouldn't cost much or take too long but it could save the homeowner a lot of inconvenience and money. Thanks for this very useful video. Keep e'm coming.
By the way, what do you think of shark bites to do repairs and leave them inside the wall, permanently?
shark bites are great. so long as you install them properly, there should be no problem, even inside a wall.
Haha, Rubber Ducky! Wow at the holes! Why not use a PVC coupling & glue there? Always feel like clamps can loosen up or the rubber can go bad over time. I'm not a plumber so just curious.
The problem is actually getting a pvc coupling in there if both sides of the pipe a secured. The rubbers you can slide over the patch piece then slide back over main pipe
Good thing it wasn't a supply line. An old lady did that on a third floor apt. hanging a small picture. Put a 3 inch finish nail through a copper pipe. She could of hung a piano with that nail.
Good job steve!
Your videos help me out alot
Great job
That was an expensive towel rack to hang. How much did it end up costing the homeowner?
Ole Billdo Burr fixin the showuhhhhh!!!
Wow, what a find!
Somebody needs to stop pooping inside that bathtub - that was gross - dude, clean up!!! You could just use silicon caulk, with foil water seal tape and a rubber clamp on top of it for good measure - you did not need to cut it. You could also use that clay epoxy that hardens like metal in the holes.
My first house had a basement.. water was leaking down from diverter cover.moen... foam is not water tight..now I always clear caulk all around cover..zero leak.. only way I knew I could look up...but in a closed ceiling.....you got a problem.. same with 3 handle showers no putty sealing holes.. they leak a lot.. into garage... plumbers putty was the tickey..... some lazy ass didnt do it....
Wow, unreal 😂 right now I’m looking at why my shower leaks downstairs but not the tub. So I can drain a full tub fine, but the shower leaks down to the unfinished basement. I patched up some old grout and loose tiles on the shower wall above the tub, it’s an old Italian home from the 80’s) and the leaks stopped, but then after I started renovations downstairs and removed studs and stuff, I guess things moved around because it freakin leaks again 😂
What is the name of the bands you use to join pipes?
Do you get them from a local plumbing place!
I want to order some!
Thanks!
ideal clamps
wow..usually wet walls or pipe chases are deep to avoid this problem
Who was singing?
Wow great job……..
Yo Adrienne!!
Good job sir
Whoever hung that towel Rod did not have a clue what they were doing first you drill a hole through the drywall then you take a finish nail and poke it through the hole to see if it's plastic or wood that's how you tell what you're drilling through then you can finish Drilling or get a stud finder.
100%, drill-bit comes out with anything but wood or drywall, you need to fix it or tell the homeowner.
have you ever used the bread trick on copper pipe
I'm in Brooklyn looking for my shower to be repair help out
like whomever installed the towel bar couldnt figure out they drilled into pvc? 2+2=4 right?
LOL...And hit the pipe twice...
"Why did plastic come out on my drill bit? And why didn't it just poke right through the drywall? Fuck, it's not level, I'll drill another hole"
Bar brackets use two holes to anchor through the wall. Makes me think they used butterfly bolts given the size of the holes.
Thats Common Core Education for you!
2 + 2 is 22. Try it. Grab 2 pieces of plastic number 2 and put them next to each other and see what you get. Even my 3 years old can figure it out
It's a leaker momma !!! They usually hit a water line or electrical. Great job. Are you doing the drwall repair ??
Great find wow
Thanks Steve!
Hey Steve , did you have to pay to hear that Opera singer at the end ? ... Lol ... Good fix
the ladys husband said i was in for a treat with her singing ...he was wrong
Youre supposed to be singing about the birds of spring, not the eruption of a volcano! ~Shemp Howard
I have see that done with line sets. Why doesn’t it cool?
Nice vid as always
Off topic, but looking for input. Plumbing company charged my church 4 hrs. At $100/hr. No problem there, but I was charged $95 for service call when I am first call in a.m. and their office is 5 minutes away. Since I had them do the job, should the $95 service call charge been credited to the labor charge?? What is customary?
For most companies the call fee is just that, a call fee. From the outside it can seem a little off-putting, but when you have techs running calls with 1/2 to 1 or more hours drive time to a site, would you feel it's fair if you got charged 'travel' time? Not trying to say you don't have a point, but that call fee is an equalized average that sucks for people close to the shop to balance for the far ones. Personally I try to make things a little more level for involved jobs that are 'around the corner' and split the difference to have the service fee cover the first half hour in those cases.
Are you from Boston? Lol
Steve, interesting find, just never know until wall opened.
gotta be careful wow!
Let me get the link to your spy cam
Nailed it
Nice Duck
Was that the drain line? Could you have clamped over the holes without cutting out a section of pipe? Or silicone over the holes? Just curious. I know your work is great and you don’t do what is not necessary, So don’t take that as criticism, it’s not. I’m your biggest fan.
samlol23 would you silicone the holes if it was your house....?
Could have been patched a few different ways, but it's a main vent stack, a soil stack, and behind the wall, so the best solution is full plumbing code compliance using couplings
Sal A absolutely would if it was a no pressure situation
There are a few quick fixes that probably would work ok but should they fail Steve would be liable. Better to do a proper repair whilst the wall is open and know its 100% fixed.
Inspector Steve Clouseau!
Could u sue the company that did the bathroom remodel
I would use one clamp over the holes, without cutting the pipe at all.
I don't think u should have cut out pipe
Unbelievable👍😎👌😷😴👱
Better the plumbing drain than an electrical chase.
why can you just clamp the hole?
That must be in Nuwa Jursay..
No Boston
Wow crazy
I wish I had a picture of a drain pipe that an electrician drilled straight through to run electrical wires. But then just globed the holes with silicone and ran the wires around the outside of the pipe.
I'm not a professional by any means, but to me that would be common sense.
If you ever find some holes in a pipe like this again you could use hot glue in an emergency to fix it, worked for ,me
why didn't you show how and with what you cut the piece of pipe out!!
Go Patriots!!!
You’re the man
Gundy given, nxt lvl
oh man ,what did you find ???