Fascinating insight, thanks for sharing ^^ Side-note : I think the reason they shyed away from using the word "jihad" when things like the Mahdi are so specific to Islam is that "jihad" became something of a dirty word after 9/11. Before that it was just another religious term that most Christians (and even most white folk) didn't have much reason to know, but after that it really became a sort of shorthand for Muslim-centric terrorism, or What We Get If George W's Coalition Of Oil Barons Isn't Allowed To Pacify The Middle East. As you can see, that went about as well as can be expected...
ALSO, I loved hearing your thoughts on Stilgar as the blindly faithful follower, especially the part where Paul denies being the Mahdi. I don't know if you've seen much Monty Python, but I think it's pretty fair to say a lot of the movie's target audience will remember this scene from The Life of Brian : th-cam.com/video/4HB7zqP9QNo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=1vNTiaKM8X7vv9TH
@@SK4M_Freal Well, yeah, but : - Had he really a choice ? - Didn't it prevented way more deaths by reforming humanity and preparing it for the return of the thinking machine ?
It's neat that you noted that The Messiah and the Mahdi are two different characters in Islam, cause in Dune the Fremen Prophecy concerning the Mahdi ends up referring to two different people. Paul is the one who points the way, but the 2nd character is the one who protects humanity from it's greatest enemy.
I still have much to read, I regret not finishing the book before watching part 2 which I will watch today and the review will come out tonight, be sure to check it out!
@@Tausify No it's cool. Part 2 of the movie actually does something really cool where they argue about the fact that the Mahdi is meant to come from the Fremen. They argue about it in the movie. This wasn't in the first book but it's a really important conversation in a later book. The lisan al gaib could never come from the Fremen because it's the voice from the outer world. Only an outworlder could ever be the voice from the outer world and Paul IS the voice from the outer world. Paul is the one who points the way, and Paul is the one who discovers The Golden Path. The "Mahdi" who protects Humanity from it's greatest enemy really has to come from the Fremen though. It's a really neat inclusion because it references such an important moment in the overall series.
People missquote what the Butlerian Jihad was about. Frank wrote not that men were enslaved by thinking machines, but by men in control of thinking machines, the distinction is important.
actually Messiah is a word in hebrew משיח, and Paul is also called Kwizat haderech which is also in hebrew קפיצת הדרך “the jump of the Way” from Jewish Kabalah. Bene Geziret is also from Hebrew בנות גשרית “daughter of bridging”. The warms anla called Shaitan = Seitan שטן in hebrew it’s the devil. The whole story is a mixture of Hebrew and Arabic words.
I agree with most of the things you said in this video. The influence of religions in general and Islam in particular is quite obvious from the author Franck Herbert. One thing you don't know maybe about the region where I live (North Africa) there are people called Amazigh meaning Free Men ... Aka Fremen ! ;) I guess Franck Herbert might have had an experience in a desert like the Sahara... Worth to investigate. Isn't it?
This is great. It’s nice to hear a review from a Muslim perspective. In regards to not casting Middle Eastern actors, I think it’s for a specific reason. Since you haven’t finished the book I won’t spoil it. Let’s just say by the second book, or third movie it will be a huge problem if they cast middle eastern or arabs as the Fremen….
@@TausifyIt's what the fremen do in Paul's name. If you haven't seen Dune Part 2 yet just focus on the last thing Paul says to Stilgar and Jessica's last line
@@Tausify Part 2 rectifies part 1s casting I think. You don't want the Fremen to be monolithically MENA people for 2 reasons. 1. In the book the middle east is not the only influence on their culture, they're a product of many cultures, even as far as Tibet and the Caucus mountains in Russia. 2. Having multiple ethnicities, some of which are Arab and North African, is the right balance to do it. It would be nice for Chani or Stilgar to be MENA, like Shishakli was, but the movie focused on star power combined with top talent. I think it's fair enough they didn't go scouting to deep and used recognisable faces rather than unknowns. Could have had some more MENA people in both parts tho still.
I saw a mixture of Christianity and Islam in dune. It’s essentially following old abrahamic traditions, Paul rising from the dead in the second movie was heavily inspired by Jesus. Jessica playing a “mother Mary” role
@@Tausify yeah because he is supposed to be extremely powerful. Jessica has witnessed his power before and had been through the same process. She had confidence that he wouldn’t die…she was a bit crazy this movie
Nicely done. I'm a long time Dune fan, read the books when I was a teenager. I am retired US Military and have a lot of time in predominately Muslim countries embedded with various security forces over the years and count many Arab muslims as friends. It's distressing how many Americans are so ignorant about Islam and bedouine culture. Thank you for your perspective.
I understand where you are coming from brother, but at the end of the day it is a movie produced by an American company, with a Canadian director and half European and half American actors. I see no wrong with it and I am Mexican. In the end of Dune they state The Holy War has begun, well in the book its called Jihad. You can imagine there would be mostly liberals and the media attacking this movie if most actors were Middle Eastern or have descent. Herbert obtained some inspiration from the Islam faith in the making of his book, so on the contrary we should both think that's pretty neat and interesting. that is simply all brother. I wish you well! cheers!
There is no telepathy in Dune. People believe the Bene Gesserit are telepathic and they don’t do anything to correct the mistake. But it’s all observation of body language and physical context.
Dune's religious mythology is inspired by Islamic eschatology. It's not meant to be 1:1. Also, you can be both a mahdi and a messiah in a general sense, but of course not in Islam.
Paul isn’t the messiah. He is the result of religious and gene manipulation. He is also a generation too early as he was meant to be a girl and marry a Harkhonnen heir to end the feud and birth a controllable emperor with mentat, Bene Gesserit and Steersmen abilities. Perfect foresight, perfect hindsight and the measured reason to guide humanity.
@@Tausify That's the thing... it doesn't have to be god. Every single word of all the scriptures ever created was most likely written by people like you and me.
still, to be fair, they weren't played by some white blondies or asians, actually most of them looked like taken from islamic countries, i mean maybe not only a sterotypical middle eastern guy, but for example north africans also maybe i'm getting a bit ahead of this review here, because i just watched part two, and there you have much more fremen shown, and that's the picture i have in my head right now, combining both movies btw you can call me an ignorant here, but imho javier bardem kinda looks middle eastern in these movies :D
Btw my real name is Tausif.. I'm from Bangladesh and I have deep fascination for Dune and Warhammer too 😁 I have learned entire Dune lore and most fascinating thing is it don't have any alien in it which makes it much futuristic haha
Well, the Fremen were perceived as terrorists by the ruling class, and in a technical sense, they were. They disrupted spice mining, etc. We perceive them as freedom fighters, but that's a fine line at best, and maybe no line at all. I think using Levantine actors would be dangerous for two reasons: 1. It might reinforce the stereotypes of Arabs, etc. being terrorists. 2. It might soften the depiction of actual Levantine terrorists, e.g., Hamas. So on one hand, I agree with you. When I read the book, I envisioned the Fremen as futuristic Bedouins. Extremely hospitable to their own, extremely untrusting of outsiders, and extremely rigid in their traditions because any kind of moral or practical failure could result in death. The world was too unforgiving. But I also understand why avoiding casting Levantine actors avoided offending people. I personally think those who might be offended by using Levantine actors are insufferable woke parasites, but why rock the boat if it isn't necessary?
Thanks for sharing - I thought you did a great job sharing your perspective along with a review of the movie. Can’t wait for you to read the whole book!
I just watched dune part 2 in dhanmondi at friday 8th. March. . . i wish there was an imax. .. because most of the cineplex Screens are very low and dark in quality . . . . by the way.. . . good review . . . 😊
@@Tausify I've read the books. Changing the ecology came from an unpublished article about stopping the movement of sand dunes with planted grass. Politics came from his time as a speech writer for a United States congressman. The Islamic influences (and a couple of whole sentences) came from Sabers of Paradise, which is a book based on an Islamic rebellion in Chechnya. A lot of the psychology came from Jung. Looking into his influences and further looking into reading similar things about history, psychology, religions, etc. is a hell of a rabbit hole, but well worth it.
You are correct I mean I am not sure about Muad'dib but fremen are descendant of ZenSunni's which was a religious group that had aspects of Sunni Islam and Buddhism.
I'm not a muslim but it's clear Frank Herbert was inspired by islam when writing the fremen. Now obviously this is fiction and Paul's story is a cautionary tale as seen in Dune Messiah. I hope you enjoy the books, they're great.
Actually inspired by the Israelite. The story is taking place 10000 years from today when Zen Budhism is mixed with suni and shia into zensuni and zenshia. You should read the books…
@@Tausify lol, virgin occidental:"We cannot use that word, muslims are to fragile and will cry if They hear that word"; Muslim Chad:"Where is my Jihad brother?"
@@oliverv2848 No to the public, only to an small ignorant minority, as loud and annoying as they are, and pretty much Jihad held its meaning for over a thousand years.
I enjoyed the review. I haven't read the books, but have watched both movies. Dune 2 was phenomenal I immediately wanted to read the books after watching the movies. Considering the whole plot of both films, I can see they may have left some stuff out. Both movies could be 30mins to an hour longer. But the movie didn't fail to move me or make me any less interested in the story. Was very captivating. I saw people comparing it to empire strikes back and two towers, which I think is not fair(DUNE inspired the science fiction works after it). This movie should be judged on its own merits. I don't want to spoil anything, but the news was out some time ago that we may get a Dune 3 Based on Dune: Messiah(?). After watching this, I for sure need more Dune. I want to see where the Atreides story goes next. Bro, can I ask you questions regarding the book plot? I currently don't have time to delve into the books but I am interested to know a book reader's perspective on the movies. Maybe after you watch Dune 2
You've been reading, at least the first book. Been quite a while since I read the books, I can't remember when it was mentioned in the books. It could have been the first book and so you will know this, or maybe it's later and you don't know. Also I didn't see anyone else in the comments mention it so I'll say it. The religion in question is Zensunni, so it's a future where the religion is a blend of Buddhism and Islam. The Fremen were wanderers. They had spent some time in their travels on other planets before arriving on Arrakis. Telepathy isn't a thing in the books, things are communicated non verbally by things like gestures. That wasn't really communicated in the movies, I guess it's trying to show it as if it's telepathy but I'm taking the book canon for it, and it's just not portrayed properly. I get your point about the representation but the Fremen were really wanderers for a long time. Watch the 1984 version of Dune. That one... had a lot of issues. But it did go with a lot of monologuing. Too much of it. It's one of the big criticisms that movie gets as well as not really being faithful to the book/s. There's also a made for TV miniseries, it's a lot more faithful to the books as there is a Dune and Children of Dune made for TV miniseries. Long time since I watched, but I recall it being good for being faithful to the books. Late by me now, so I'll watch your review of part 2 tomorrow.
Yes, watch my review of Dune 1984. Its not only the monologuing but the acting overall is terrible. Also the telepathy scene happens when Jessica is in the other room and can't see Paul when Paul's hand was in the box. Or were they both thinking the same thing?
@@Tausify My memory is awful so I can't recall what was thought/said by Jessica, the Gom Jabbar test I believe is something that Bene Gesserit undergo, so she would have done it too, and having done it, she would know what Paul is experiencing.
Man I really hope you cover the books! I’d love to hear your thoughts as you go through the books, because the Islamic inspirations don’t stop at the first book. Frank Herbert definitely takes a lot of inspiration for real world cultures and religions. From Buddhism to Hebrew and of course Islam, so much of Dune’s lore is tied up in our real world history! It’s really cool, I think.
![CAMPปลิ้น | EP.82[1/2] แก๊ง 3 สาวเพื่อนซี้บุก CAMPปลิ้นครั้งนี้ห้ามเสียอาการ](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_6WUjXHe1TM/mqdefault.jpg)
GUYS! Dune Part 2 Review is out so GO Check It OUT!
th-cam.com/video/h17AEMidNPw/w-d-xo.html
Fascinating insight, thanks for sharing ^^
Side-note : I think the reason they shyed away from using the word "jihad" when things like the Mahdi are so specific to Islam is that "jihad" became something of a dirty word after 9/11. Before that it was just another religious term that most Christians (and even most white folk) didn't have much reason to know, but after that it really became a sort of shorthand for Muslim-centric terrorism, or What We Get If George W's Coalition Of Oil Barons Isn't Allowed To Pacify The Middle East.
As you can see, that went about as well as can be expected...
ALSO, I loved hearing your thoughts on Stilgar as the blindly faithful follower, especially the part where Paul denies being the Mahdi.
I don't know if you've seen much Monty Python, but I think it's pretty fair to say a lot of the movie's target audience will remember this scene from The Life of Brian : th-cam.com/video/4HB7zqP9QNo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=1vNTiaKM8X7vv9TH
The thing most casual viewers don't understand about Dune is that Paul is not the Messiah. He's a very naughty boy
🤣🤣🤣
Underrated comment
Well, in the grand scheme of things in Dune, is he really ?
@@tatesmith4527erm, excuse me, 61billion people called from the future from a fictional Duniverse and would like word please.....🤙🏾🤣
@@SK4M_Freal Well, yeah, but :
- Had he really a choice ?
- Didn't it prevented way more deaths by reforming humanity and preparing it for the return of the thinking machine ?
Glad to see you're also reading the book as well as reviewing the film.
It's neat that you noted that The Messiah and the Mahdi are two different characters in Islam, cause in Dune the Fremen Prophecy concerning the Mahdi ends up referring to two different people. Paul is the one who points the way, but the 2nd character is the one who protects humanity from it's greatest enemy.
I still have much to read, I regret not finishing the book before watching part 2 which I will watch today and the review will come out tonight, be sure to check it out!
@@Tausify No it's cool. Part 2 of the movie actually does something really cool where they argue about the fact that the Mahdi is meant to come from the Fremen. They argue about it in the movie. This wasn't in the first book but it's a really important conversation in a later book. The lisan al gaib could never come from the Fremen because it's the voice from the outer world. Only an outworlder could ever be the voice from the outer world and Paul IS the voice from the outer world. Paul is the one who points the way, and Paul is the one who discovers The Golden Path. The "Mahdi" who protects Humanity from it's greatest enemy really has to come from the Fremen though. It's a really neat inclusion because it references such an important moment in the overall series.
Dune gives me mental peace, thinking that AI isn't going to replace us.
Btw i'm from BD too , be specific Tangail , and loved your chanel , so you got a sub ! keep going
@@cyborgorwhatever Dune Part 2 Review is out. Check It OUT!
th-cam.com/video/h17AEMidNPw/w-d-xo.html
People missquote what the Butlerian Jihad was about.
Frank wrote not that men were enslaved by thinking machines, but by men in control of thinking machines, the distinction is important.
@@Washeekis closest tô reallity. IA is not gonna overthrow humanity. It is and it will only be a tool for the powerful to continue their domination.
Dune is just Islam with sandworms.
Just came out of the theatre and I can confirm it pretty much is
Very much intentional.
actually Messiah is a word in hebrew משיח, and Paul is also called Kwizat haderech which is also in hebrew קפיצת הדרך “the jump of the Way” from Jewish Kabalah. Bene Geziret is also from Hebrew בנות גשרית “daughter of bridging”. The warms anla called Shaitan = Seitan שטן in hebrew it’s the devil. The whole story is a mixture of Hebrew and Arabic words.
Also, the fact that a lot of Hebrew and Arabic words are the same
@@Tausify true, same origin. But it's a word from a religious aspect and Judaism predates Islam so Islam adopted it from Hebrew
@@Dikur-Sini Correct. These words are definitely loans into Arabic.
I agree with most of the things you said in this video.
The influence of religions in general and Islam in particular is quite obvious from the author Franck Herbert.
One thing you don't know maybe about the region where I live (North Africa) there are people called Amazigh meaning Free Men ... Aka Fremen ! ;)
I guess Franck Herbert might have had an experience in a desert like the Sahara...
Worth to investigate. Isn't it?
That's cool!
This is great. It’s nice to hear a review from a Muslim perspective. In regards to not casting Middle Eastern actors, I think it’s for a specific reason. Since you haven’t finished the book I won’t spoil it. Let’s just say by the second book, or third movie it will be a huge problem if they cast middle eastern or arabs as the Fremen….
I think Paul does some bad things in Dune Messiah based on the way people talk about it. Going as far as saying that it not even movie friendly.
@@TausifyIt's what the fremen do in Paul's name. If you haven't seen Dune Part 2 yet just focus on the last thing Paul says to Stilgar and Jessica's last line
@@iamsheep My path leads to the desert?
@@Tausify no Part 2
@@Tausify
Part 2 rectifies part 1s casting I think. You don't want the Fremen to be monolithically MENA people for 2 reasons. 1. In the book the middle east is not the only influence on their culture, they're a product of many cultures, even as far as Tibet and the Caucus mountains in Russia. 2. Having multiple ethnicities, some of which are Arab and North African, is the right balance to do it. It would be nice for Chani or Stilgar to be MENA, like Shishakli was, but the movie focused on star power combined with top talent. I think it's fair enough they didn't go scouting to deep and used recognisable faces rather than unknowns. Could have had some more MENA people in both parts tho still.
I saw a mixture of Christianity and Islam in dune. It’s essentially following old abrahamic traditions, Paul rising from the dead in the second movie was heavily inspired by Jesus. Jessica playing a “mother Mary” role
Yeah but they treated it so casually. Jessica was so confident saying his vitals were low hence they couldn't be detected, but alive.
@@TausifyI felt like that’s where the skeptical/atheistic part of it came into play.
It's there to tell you that it's all fake there is no Lisan Al Gaib it's just propaganda@@Tausify
@@raz1980. it’s still the same concept. The people around him thought he was dead…his followers thought they witnessed him coming back from the dead
@@Tausify yeah because he is supposed to be extremely powerful. Jessica has witnessed his power before and had been through the same process. She had confidence that he wouldn’t die…she was a bit crazy this movie
Nicely done. I'm a long time Dune fan, read the books when I was a teenager. I am retired US Military and have a lot of time in predominately Muslim countries embedded with various security forces over the years and count many Arab muslims as friends. It's distressing how many Americans are so ignorant about Islam and bedouine culture. Thank you for your perspective.
Thanks! Glad you liked it. Part 2 review will come out tonight. Be sure to check it out!
I understand where you are coming from brother, but at the end of the day it is a movie produced by an American company, with a Canadian director and half European and half American actors. I see no wrong with it and I am Mexican. In the end of Dune they state The Holy War has begun, well in the book its called Jihad. You can imagine there would be mostly liberals and the media attacking this movie if most actors were Middle Eastern or have descent. Herbert obtained some inspiration from the Islam faith in the making of his book, so on the contrary we should both think that's pretty neat and interesting. that is simply all brother. I wish you well! cheers!
I hear it gets really bloody and messy in the 2nd book
There are not good middle eastern actors enough in Hollywood
Mo Amer, Rami Youssef, Bassem Youssef look them up
I love how you say, peace be upon them every time you mencion Jesus, Mary and some profet
The actor of Paul is Jewish,i.i middle eastern in origine…
There is no telepathy in Dune. People believe the Bene Gesserit are telepathic and they don’t do anything to correct the mistake. But it’s all observation of body language and physical context.
Dune's religious mythology is inspired by Islamic eschatology. It's not meant to be 1:1. Also, you can be both a mahdi and a messiah in a general sense, but of course not in Islam.
Paul isn’t the messiah. He is the result of religious and gene manipulation. He is also a generation too early as he was meant to be a girl and marry a Harkhonnen heir to end the feud and birth a controllable emperor with mentat, Bene Gesserit and Steersmen abilities. Perfect foresight, perfect hindsight and the measured reason to guide humanity.
"And none of it is engineered by Bene Gesserit"
Are you sure noone has "laid the groundwork" for all those mythical narratives ?
Who might that be? God?
@@Tausify That's the thing... it doesn't have to be god. Every single word of all the scriptures ever created was most likely written by people like you and me.
I actually agree with you . I think they should have included middle eastern actors as fremen.
Thanks! Working on Part 2 Review!
still, to be fair, they weren't played by some white blondies or asians, actually most of them looked like taken from islamic countries, i mean maybe not only a sterotypical middle eastern guy, but for example north africans
also maybe i'm getting a bit ahead of this review here, because i just watched part two, and there you have much more fremen shown, and that's the picture i have in my head right now, combining both movies
btw you can call me an ignorant here, but imho javier bardem kinda looks middle eastern in these movies :D
@@voldren He does, Part 2 is SOLID! Dune Part 2 Review is out Check It OUT!
th-cam.com/video/h17AEMidNPw/w-d-xo.html
@@voldren I agree with you as well . I’m gonna watch Part 2 again . Also Javiers Stillgar was the best character in the movie .
Btw my real name is Tausif.. I'm from Bangladesh and I have deep fascination for Dune and Warhammer too 😁
I have learned entire Dune lore and most fascinating thing is it don't have any alien in it which makes it much futuristic haha
Realistic you mean. Which part of Bangladesh? Dhaka?
Btw Dune Part 2 Review is out so Check It OUT!
th-cam.com/video/h17AEMidNPw/w-d-xo.html
Realistic I mean it has a possibility to be real unlike star wars..
Yea dhaka I'm from. Wbu?
Well, the Fremen were perceived as terrorists by the ruling class, and in a technical sense, they were. They disrupted spice mining, etc. We perceive them as freedom fighters, but that's a fine line at best, and maybe no line at all. I think using Levantine actors would be dangerous for two reasons:
1. It might reinforce the stereotypes of Arabs, etc. being terrorists.
2. It might soften the depiction of actual Levantine terrorists, e.g., Hamas.
So on one hand, I agree with you. When I read the book, I envisioned the Fremen as futuristic Bedouins. Extremely hospitable to their own, extremely untrusting of outsiders, and extremely rigid in their traditions because any kind of moral or practical failure could result in death. The world was too unforgiving. But I also understand why avoiding casting Levantine actors avoided offending people. I personally think those who might be offended by using Levantine actors are insufferable woke parasites, but why rock the boat if it isn't necessary?
Thanks for sharing - I thought you did a great job sharing your perspective along with a review of the movie. Can’t wait for you to read the whole book!
Going to watch Part 2 today and the review will come out tonight, be sure to check it out!
Dune is trying to leave a bad image of SHIA Muslims. Ask me how
I cant believ they did that to the msulim world again ...i am shocked
I just watched dune part 2 in dhanmondi at friday 8th. March. . . i wish there was an imax. .. because most of the cineplex
Screens are very low and dark in quality . . . . by the way.. . . good review . . . 😊
What does being Muslim have to do with it?
Have you seen the movie or watched my full review?
@@Tausify I've read the books. Changing the ecology came from an unpublished article about stopping the movement of sand dunes with planted grass. Politics came from his time as a speech writer for a United States congressman. The Islamic influences (and a couple of whole sentences) came from Sabers of Paradise, which is a book based on an Islamic rebellion in Chechnya. A lot of the psychology came from Jung. Looking into his influences and further looking into reading similar things about history, psychology, religions, etc. is a hell of a rabbit hole, but well worth it.
In Dune, religions have become homogenised, so perhaps Muad'dib is a corruption of Mahdi and Messiah. I know nothing, so I may well be wrong.
You are correct I mean I am not sure about Muad'dib but fremen are descendant of ZenSunni's which was a religious group that had aspects of Sunni Islam and Buddhism.
I'm not a muslim but it's clear Frank Herbert was inspired by islam when writing the fremen. Now obviously this is fiction and Paul's story is a cautionary tale as seen in Dune Messiah. I hope you enjoy the books, they're great.
Undeniably so, I am kind of giving real life lore that Frank Herbert might have pulled it from
Actually inspired by the Israelite. The story is taking place 10000 years from today when Zen Budhism is mixed with suni and shia into zensuni and zenshia. You should read the books…
The actor of Paul is Jewish…. original middle eastern…
I don't like how They didn't use the word jihad.
Me too buddy. Just came back from the theatre. recording my review
@@Tausify lol, virgin occidental:"We cannot use that word, muslims are to fragile and will cry if They hear that word"; Muslim Chad:"Where is my Jihad brother?"
you have to understand that to the public, jihad means something very different today than it did in 1965 when frank herbert wrote dune
@@oliverv2848 No to the public, only to an small ignorant minority, as loud and annoying as they are, and pretty much Jihad held its meaning for over a thousand years.
I enjoyed the review. I haven't read the books, but have watched both movies. Dune 2 was phenomenal I immediately wanted to read the books after watching the movies. Considering the whole plot of both films, I can see they may have left some stuff out. Both movies could be 30mins to an hour longer. But the movie didn't fail to move me or make me any less interested in the story. Was very captivating. I saw people comparing it to empire strikes back and two towers, which I think is not fair(DUNE inspired the science fiction works after it). This movie should be judged on its own merits. I don't want to spoil anything, but the news was out some time ago that we may get a Dune 3 Based on Dune: Messiah(?). After watching this, I for sure need more Dune. I want to see where the Atreides story goes next.
Bro, can I ask you questions regarding the book plot? I currently don't have time to delve into the books but I am interested to know a book reader's perspective on the movies. Maybe after you watch Dune 2
Yeah sure but I also have to read the rest of the book I've only read like 50%
You've been reading, at least the first book. Been quite a while since I read the books, I can't remember when it was mentioned in the books. It could have been the first book and so you will know this, or maybe it's later and you don't know.
Also I didn't see anyone else in the comments mention it so I'll say it.
The religion in question is Zensunni, so it's a future where the religion is a blend of Buddhism and Islam.
The Fremen were wanderers. They had spent some time in their travels on other planets before arriving on Arrakis.
Telepathy isn't a thing in the books, things are communicated non verbally by things like gestures. That wasn't really communicated in the movies, I guess it's trying to show it as if it's telepathy but I'm taking the book canon for it, and it's just not portrayed properly.
I get your point about the representation but the Fremen were really wanderers for a long time.
Watch the 1984 version of Dune. That one... had a lot of issues. But it did go with a lot of monologuing. Too much of it. It's one of the big criticisms that movie gets as well as not really being faithful to the book/s.
There's also a made for TV miniseries, it's a lot more faithful to the books as there is a Dune and Children of Dune made for TV miniseries. Long time since I watched, but I recall it being good for being faithful to the books.
Late by me now, so I'll watch your review of part 2 tomorrow.
Yes, watch my review of Dune 1984. Its not only the monologuing but the acting overall is terrible.
Also the telepathy scene happens when Jessica is in the other room and can't see Paul when Paul's hand was in the box. Or were they both thinking the same thing?
@@Tausify My memory is awful so I can't recall what was thought/said by Jessica, the Gom Jabbar test I believe is something that Bene Gesserit undergo, so she would have done it too, and having done it, she would know what Paul is experiencing.
Man I really hope you cover the books! I’d love to hear your thoughts as you go through the books, because the Islamic inspirations don’t stop at the first book. Frank Herbert definitely takes a lot of inspiration for real world cultures and religions. From Buddhism to Hebrew and of course Islam, so much of Dune’s lore is tied up in our real world history! It’s really cool, I think.
Great video
Thanks!