Crazy Gin Palaces of Victorian London (19th Century Drinking Dens)

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  • Gin Palaces were 'perfectly dazzling' to Charles Dickens. A flashy show that was only a veneer for rough clientele and a rowdy atmosphere. They were hugely popular in the Victorian era and attracted the rich and poor alike to drink spirits, but the well-to-do were screened from the 'riff-raff ,' who came in separately for their dram, before quickly moving on to the next magnet of temptation. But, with numerous stories of the pernicious evils of drink (like the ones you will hear today) and the rise of the temperance movement later in the century, the heyday of the gin palace was numbered.
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  • @FactFeast
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    • @deezcheney9730
      @deezcheney9730 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      When he mentioned that the gin takes away hunger pains, I used alcohol to stop hunger as a child and preteen and teenager into early 20's almost into my mid 20s. Am Anorexic/Bulimic. Alcohol also helped me throw up whatever I had eaten in "moments of weakness".
      How utterly backwards that mode of thinking is. Frustrating to me that I cannot find help. Rehabs everywhere but nothing really for the root cause of what causes a later need for rehab. I don't drink or anything anymore but am still Anorexic/Bulimic and it took me a lot of years to realize that I was sick in that way. And trauma is the root cause of that behavior and I can't find trauma therapy either. Been trying for many years and instead consistently invalidated and ignored. Seems I would have to start using drugs for anyone to pay attention. Idk because I have large burns on my arm from a recent breakdown and you'd think social workers would find that serious but instead am left here floating.
      Then people wonder why someone who needs help doesn't get it and we are blamed for that too. TERRIFIC SYSTEM lol
      To add to this ramble, how in the world is there not proper care to prevent further more damaging issues? Not as if the information is not our there. Gets my suspicious mind going.

  • @danniis9444
    @danniis9444 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Addiction.. taking people away from their hellish lives and minds since the beginning of time.

    • @deezcheney9730
      @deezcheney9730 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Tbh if I didn't drink as a teenager I would have ended myself. It was the only thing keeping me from completely losing my mind.

    • @joesickler5888
      @joesickler5888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too,and I figured out how to talk to people cause I didn’t care on booze.

  • @Mk1Bru
    @Mk1Bru 2 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    This is not only history. Replace 'gin' with 'fentanyl' and we see that our cities today have the same people at risk, with the same outcomes.

    • @jamesbyrne9312
      @jamesbyrne9312 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Great point, alcohol still a major problem too tho

    • @catherinepatton8699
      @catherinepatton8699 ปีที่แล้ว

      E but in time ride you must.

    • @catherinepatton8699
      @catherinepatton8699 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Vehicle you ride, ride you must.
      Started out as an escape ended up addiction followed by destruction leading to an early death.

    • @catherinepatton8699
      @catherinepatton8699 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You are very correct be it opium, coke, white lightning, whiskey, gin beer, mj, Crack anything to change the brain chemistry feel better for a while until John barleycorn at some time of daily use lies to its lover and refuses to take you to the fun peaceful place well perhaps an additional shot or a change of drug will help. It does not matter the vehicle once you are on thst train you keep on riding until the collision of death
      It does not matter whatever happens you get on another train until death all lights are out everything is gone forever until death do us part.

    • @patriciaque197
      @patriciaque197 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My thought, too.

  • @ezekielbrockmann114
    @ezekielbrockmann114 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    As if it wasn't awful enough to always wake somewhere between the sewers of hell and the heavenly stars, Victorians were also crushed by the hand of their fellow men between the generous poverty of Gin Palaces and the clerical greed of Temperance Houses.

    • @curbyourshi1056
      @curbyourshi1056 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'd argue that the Gin Purveyors were the evil ones. Although the Temperance people were, in my opinion, power hungry, "better than thou" types. Virtue signallers and enforcers, if you will.

  • @katrinadennis4320
    @katrinadennis4320 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    ‘Drunk as a lord’ the servants knew the truth about the aristocracy. Basically alcoholism was the norm.

    • @lordeden2732
      @lordeden2732 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And the Defendant stated "yes I was as drunk as a Judge at the time of my alleged offence", Judge interacting" Don't you mean as drunk as a Lord".
      Defendant in reply" Sorry your quite correct------------‐-My Lord.

  • @kingintyellow
    @kingintyellow 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    I saw a video recently about someone who studied addiction in rats. The normal method was to put a rat in a small cage with two bottles of water, one containing drugs. The result - a dead rat who drank the drugged water constantly until they overdosed.
    So someone then tried doing it with a bunch of rats in a luxury cage. They gave them a huge space to run around in, toys, nesting material, lots of beds and things to distract them, as well as a lot of other rats to socialise with. The result was that while some rats would occasionally drink the drugged water, they would prefer the normal water. No rats overdosed, and no addictive behaviour was observed.
    Its almost as if the situation was that if people were happy, they would not seek whatever means of escape from the misery they have, however self destructive it is. 🤔 Odd that. Anyway, back to working 60+ hours to keep my head above water as the government urinates money down the drain on vanity projects as the world catches fire around us.

    • @elizabthharris6741
      @elizabthharris6741 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, I saw a study like that they gave them the choice of the nice cage, the sugar water or the drugged water.
      They chose the sugar water 100 percent over and over.
      Interestingly, When sugar water was removed they chose the luxury interesting house.

    • @TheStubertos
      @TheStubertos 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is precisely why alcoholism is a problem in cold countries such as scandinavian countries, the UK, eastern europe, russia etc.

    • @helentepper3513
      @helentepper3513 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cannot describe in words how much I love and identify with this comment.

    • @andrewblakesley4202
      @andrewblakesley4202 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Choices, you're describing choices. Character is defined by them. Rich or poor, lucky or luckless.

  • @brianedwards7142
    @brianedwards7142 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The irony of philanthropists (lovers of humankind) hating on the very people they want to "save".

  • @dougspray7160
    @dougspray7160 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    This was an appalling period of English history and to me is treated almost flippantly and much too lightly. Reminds me as to how unapologetically and off handedey the opium trade with China and slavery is recalled and described.

    • @garryferrington811
      @garryferrington811 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      American history might be called American mythology.

  • @sparkswain2820
    @sparkswain2820 2 ปีที่แล้ว +263

    The fact is that gin is the only escape these poor folks had. With no break in the harsh reality of Victorian life for the poverty stricken gin was a quick relief from an existence they had no way of leaving.

    • @KAdams-dr4pc
      @KAdams-dr4pc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I agree !! 100%. 👍👍👍

    • @maxpowers9129
      @maxpowers9129 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Life has been hard for the majority of people, since humans first walked the Earth.

    • @denisedalton8399
      @denisedalton8399 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Cheaper than milk..thats why was given to younguns

    • @erikarmstrong1831
      @erikarmstrong1831 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Right you are

    • @hideousruin
      @hideousruin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@maxpowers9129 Yep. I imagine some hunter gatherers who were lucky to make it to the venerable age of 25 might hurrumph if they overheard how tough the life of the Victorian was.

  • @johnshields6852
    @johnshields6852 2 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    I grew up in alcohol environment, my grandparents on my Dad's side where already dead from cirrhosis by the time I was born, my Dad drank heavily, my relatives all drank, it seemed to be a man drinking was a big part, as I got in my teens I was drinking, it's done so much damage to the drinkers and to the family members who didn't drink. If I had a chance to do it over, I wouldn't have started. Brutal consequences.

    • @paddyoak1
      @paddyoak1 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yes, alcohol is tragic for some of us. My parents were strict. They disciplined me when necessary, but when I was busted getting drunk, they were scared/upset and my dad warned me not to “become too fond of the booze.” And I was warned about “the family history.” That freaked me out. Of course I didn’t listen. Drank for 13 years. But I haven’t touched a drink since 9/27/2006.

    • @demonbarber1712
      @demonbarber1712 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I feel that warning labels should be implemented. As on tobacco. Pictures of yellow people and dialysis machines.

    • @olivere5497
      @olivere5497 ปีที่แล้ว

      4:42 I love it how working class person from that period of history describes blue using indigo or azur throsn in. A proper curve ball that.

    • @sabrinatscha2554
      @sabrinatscha2554 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same. My grandma on paternal side died of cirrhosis before I was born, and it took both my maternal grandparents before I turned 14

    • @Boris_Chang
      @Boris_Chang ปีที่แล้ว

      Just another brick

  • @noneofyourbizness
    @noneofyourbizness 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    if i had lived in the genuine hell of 18th century London i'd have guzzled gin every single day of my disgustingly short (just ~ 21 years) enslaved existence.

  • @bobbydorou8438
    @bobbydorou8438 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Let us not forget that drinking water was not clean and safe to drink as we know it and alcohol was a hunger supresent and cheap to escape the tedium and poverty of the poor.

    • @christinehall6441
      @christinehall6441 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Drink blotted out the sheer misery of their lives I expect.

    • @ryshellso526
      @ryshellso526 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@christinehall6441 if I lived in the U.K. I'd have to drink everyday...

  • @1rjbrjb
    @1rjbrjb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Brilliant narration. But 70s discos were even more degrading.

  • @ahuddleston6512
    @ahuddleston6512 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    'Feeling supersonic give me gin and tonic'🎶🎵🎼💃🕺the words of wisdom from Oasis of years ago....wink😜

  • @AudreyCeropin
    @AudreyCeropin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I love your narrating, it's got so much character ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

    • @FactFeast
      @FactFeast  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm glad you enjoy the narration! Thank you for your comment.

  • @brianedwards7142
    @brianedwards7142 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    A friend gave me a Hogarth print (Pit Ticket) the other day. He was just getting rid of clutter but I have secretly coveted it for years and he was surprised at my effusive thanks. I have been into Hogarth ever since I saw a documentary in the 90s(?) about The Rake's Progress print series.

    • @helentepper3513
      @helentepper3513 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am so jealous! I studied Hogarth at University - if you enjoyed The Rake’s Progress try The Harlot’s Progress (sure you’re already familiar)…
      The BBC (I think?) dramatised Hogarth’s story - I can’t recall the name but Zoe Tapper acted in it alongside that little bloke - amazing actor - again can’t recall his name :/
      😊

  • @zigzogoid4591
    @zigzogoid4591 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    My mother, born in Camden Town in 1915 spoke of the gin palaces still about as a child. You could buy a glass for one old penny.

    • @straingedays
      @straingedays 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      1862 to 1867, my 2x gr-grandparents lived in Camden Town. The later Booth poverty map diaries, it describes their street as permeated by the odor of fish stalls, children roam without boots, general drunkenness by inhabitants, with prostitutes doing their trade during the day. But still rated it poor & comfortable.

  • @julianshepherd2038
    @julianshepherd2038 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    There is a gin Palace in Belfast that is owned by the National Trust. Stunning decoration but give the Guinness a miss.

  • @cobrachicken07
    @cobrachicken07 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Excellent narration and a delightful history of drunken humanity. No wonder we've not made good decisions as a species.

    • @FactFeast
      @FactFeast  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m glad you enjoyed the presentation, thank you. I have another video on my channel about the Victorians and drink should you be interested.

    • @ericray7173
      @ericray7173 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The discovery of beer ushered on the advent of agriculture... so there's that though.

  • @sutty8526
    @sutty8526 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've heard of gin lane. Really very sad. A child dropped to his death. Women stealing their childs clothes for money to buy gin.

    • @MrThedonhead
      @MrThedonhead ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Still happening today on a even bigger scale in fact all because they won't legalize drugs and ban alcohol the worst drug

  • @Mallymoore
    @Mallymoore 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Really enjoy your uploads .you bring history to life.

    • @FactFeast
      @FactFeast  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm glad you think so. I really appreciate that and thank you for your comment.

    • @jonhelmer8591
      @jonhelmer8591 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, I'm not sure where some of the accents are from, but it's always a marvelous performance.

    • @deezcheney9730
      @deezcheney9730 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FactFeast Wonder if you would get more attention to these if you changed the name. Idk it reminds me of Buzzfeed(only the name- not the content lol) a bit and I didn't look at this channel for a bit because of this. Of course- I have no idea how to gain attention on here so don't listen to me either. It might be an asset.

    • @Dan-oe3my
      @Dan-oe3my ปีที่แล้ว

      I listen to them over and over.

  • @bluecanary1note
    @bluecanary1note 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    People preferred alcohol to other drugs in those days. Opium and laudanum were legally available everywhere, but the masses didn't bother with that for some reason. Today, drugs have surpassed alcohol as a major social problem.

    • @elizabthharris6741
      @elizabthharris6741 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cause alcohol is so ingrained in our culture, be it UK, OR America.
      It is almost expected in some countries to take a drink after work with coworkers.
      And it is acceptable. Unlike opium or laudanum.
      Even bored women with their sherry was ok even then. Sherry isn't booze in their minds.

  • @LuchadorMasque
    @LuchadorMasque 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Good gin is wonderful

    • @moonshine588
      @moonshine588 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I guess I haven't had any yet.

    • @AdamsHadEnough
      @AdamsHadEnough 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Relevant username

  • @EverendeverGroup
    @EverendeverGroup 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great illustrations! I love old cartooning and periodical illustration. Oh yeah, I also love gin.🥴

    • @FactFeast
      @FactFeast  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s great that you enjoyed the presentation! Gin Palaces were depicted as bright, colourful and (according to Charles Dickens) dazzling. Thank you for your comment.

  • @katrinadennis4320
    @katrinadennis4320 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Called ‘Mother’s Ruin back then. No stats on the number of children born with FAS.

    • @MrThedonhead
      @MrThedonhead ปีที่แล้ว

      Jeez there must be thousands but they wouldn't have kept them so god knows what they did with them?

  • @mijiyoon5575
    @mijiyoon5575 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Agree, poverty ... is ...misery😠😠😠

  • @avtomad722
    @avtomad722 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Thanks for the fantastic glimpse into a shady and strangely appealing part of London life; gosh, I have a horrible feeling if I was living back then I would definitely have frequented these gin palaces, they sound like a blast!
    You really brought it to life, subscribed, Thank you 👍

    • @FactFeast
      @FactFeast  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Gin Palaces certainly sound like they were rowdy places where you would see people from all walks of life. Welcome to the channel! I hope you enjoy the content. Thank you.

  • @AeiSedai1976
    @AeiSedai1976 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Man I wish you would narrate Charles Dickens!!!!

  • @markbumford8076
    @markbumford8076 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Thank you again for taking us back to the lives of these poor souls who were held captive by the evil of drink.
    Keep up the good work

    • @FactFeast
      @FactFeast  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You’re welcome, thank you. I’m glad you found their stories interesting.

    • @Adyingcolonialism42
      @Adyingcolonialism42 ปีที่แล้ว

      They were held captive as superfluous by capitalism and given alcohol to drown into oblivion instead of revolution

    • @christinehall6441
      @christinehall6441 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can't blame them but pity for the hapless children.

  • @deadfishparty
    @deadfishparty 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I cracked open a fresh bottle of Plymouth before settling in to watch this drama unfold. Never a disappointment.

    • @FactFeast
      @FactFeast  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m glad it was good to watch and you enjoyed the drama in this one. Your comment is much appreciated!

    • @Dan-oe3my
      @Dan-oe3my ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hope you finished it in one sitting, neat, for the immersive experience

    • @Bazonthebass
      @Bazonthebass 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A good drop the Plymouth. Almost a creamy texture, if that's possible with gin!

  • @richevandroo5041
    @richevandroo5041 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Its strange having a "liking" for a bit to much booze, hearing these amazing stories from the real life in days gone by. Makes you realize how blessed we are to have the luxuries we have... This ranks up with the top 5 commentaries for sure. So raw and well read! Brilliant.

    • @FactFeast
      @FactFeast  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for your comment! I’m really glad you enjoyed the stories of gin palaces.

  • @garryferrington811
    @garryferrington811 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Better food, better wages, and more employment..." Yes.

  • @heywoodjerbloume
    @heywoodjerbloume ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One remembers being told in school,Drunk for a penny,dead drunk for tuppence.

  • @georgeliquor2931
    @georgeliquor2931 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Keep em down give em booze

  • @jontalbot1
    @jontalbot1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    What is really interesting is how little things have changed. Inside the head of lots of Brits is a mechanism called Price of a Pint. It determines travel destinations so that Sweden or Norway will never attract many UK holiday makers. If you tell people you have been there, the first comment is likely to refer to this. This is a country where commercial health and sports centres have bars otherwise no one would go. I saw a church recently moved its services to a pub to boost attendance. That’s why it’s taxed and heavily regulated.

    • @jamesprivet
      @jamesprivet ปีที่แล้ว

      Good comment.

    • @lordeden2732
      @lordeden2732 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It had nothing to do with boosting the congregation.
      But to do with the state of disrepair of the Church building.

  • @kojack1129
    @kojack1129 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Next time im having a few at my local stop i shant comment on the semi clean glass im about to drink from. Thouroghly enjoy all episodes. Thanks for such civilized entertainment.

    • @FactFeast
      @FactFeast  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My pleasure! Thanks for your support for my channel.

  • @robnewman6101
    @robnewman6101 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A Major Problem, Drunkenness.

  • @sams3015
    @sams3015 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Remember the gin-revival of the 2010s, is it just me or has it died down?

    • @mgthestrange9098
      @mgthestrange9098 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don’t think it has although, the stuff they sell these days is milder than the stuff from back then I would imagine. It’s also in fancy cocktails now. 🍹

    • @Paula-Galgo
      @Paula-Galgo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It’s still so popular! All flavours, all colours!

    • @mollysteel142
      @mollysteel142 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Paula-Galgo try RAWLINGS pretty much a Rough Gin Up

    • @MrThedonhead
      @MrThedonhead ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@mgthestrange9098 no back then it was weaker the strongest at 30%

  • @alanjohnson2528
    @alanjohnson2528 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    still many gin palaces in uk except they call them pubs now and you can buy a wide variety of spirits

    • @MrThedonhead
      @MrThedonhead ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know and people seem shocked with this ha haven't they seen towns at the weekend in fact this seems tame to tiday

  • @KAdams-dr4pc
    @KAdams-dr4pc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you for your hard work!

    • @FactFeast
      @FactFeast  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My pleasure! Thank you for watching and your comment.

  • @lunastar7599
    @lunastar7599 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    THIS IS SUCH A COOL CHANEL!!! AND I LOVE ❤️ YOUR VOICES!!!🥰💞💞💞💞💞💞💞💞💞

    • @FactFeast
      @FactFeast  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! It's great that you enjoy the characters - we aim bring life to history.

  • @maritaaarrestad7874
    @maritaaarrestad7874 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This channel is a treasure . I’m ejoying the binge of a new fan. ❤️

    • @FactFeast
      @FactFeast  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s great! So nice nice to know you enjoy the history content, thank you.

  • @davidsault9698
    @davidsault9698 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    One bottle in a drawing had a label with the words "Gin and Rue." Rue was a plant used to flavor liquors from what I've read and it was blue. So, the blue color of the man in the previous story could have been the result of drinking great quantities of Gin at that time and people of that time would understand his blue color came from that I suggest. I thought originally that it was due to a heart condition caused by drinking.

    • @FactFeast
      @FactFeast  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very interesting theory! Thank you.

  • @lanacampbell-moore6686
    @lanacampbell-moore6686 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Happy Sunday Evening All😊✌

  • @stantheman4964
    @stantheman4964 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You really bring your story's to life, you paint such a clear yet dark and hopeless time and space.

    • @FactFeast
      @FactFeast  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for enjoying the narration. It’s great you feel it brings atmosphere to the stories of people from the past.

  • @Khatoon170
    @Khatoon170 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    How are you doing sir thank for your wonderful historical documentary channel we appreciate your great efforts as foreigners subscribers as overseas students want to increase our cultural level improve our English language as well as always iam gathering main points about topics you mentioned briefly here it’s the definition of gin palace is English name originally for lavish bar selling later transferred by association to late victorian pubs designed in similar style in 18 th century the gin was popular arriving of gin palace in 1830s the motivation for their introduction was 1830 beer act who had purchased cheap license to sell beer over eight years its means too gin palace gaudy drinking house

    • @FactFeast
      @FactFeast  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They were indeed gaudy drinking houses compared to the beer taverns. Thank you for watching.

  • @RJ6AV6
    @RJ6AV6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Heck yea! Love trying to get as much info on the Gin Craze. Crazy to see how a liquid became such a big issue back then and all the different ways they tried to sneak and hide selling it. Another excellent video thank you! 👍👍

    • @FactFeast
      @FactFeast  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My pleasure! I’m glad the subject was interesting.

  • @AeiSedai1976
    @AeiSedai1976 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Beer Rye vodka rum and various otherswere always in the liquor cabinet growing up but never gin. Always like it was a women's drink or only for drunks. 48 and only recently discovered I really like it!

    • @taraelizabethdensley9475
      @taraelizabethdensley9475 ปีที่แล้ว

      My mum used to refer to gin as mothers ruin, so i didn't try it until my late 30s. Personally i like the flavoured gins, and occasionally pink gin

    • @ryshellso526
      @ryshellso526 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@taraelizabethdensley9475yup.😂😂😂 find cougars drinking gin at the bars all the time. That's how you know she drives a jaguar and has daddy issues.😂😂😂

  • @smkh2890
    @smkh2890 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    " Mothers' Ruin" it was called. I used to enjoy a G+T, but I gave up the hard stuff. Now it is just red wine with a meal.

  • @markhonerbaum3920
    @markhonerbaum3920 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Who among man prays when all is going well unless they are giving thsnks .They probably pray more when they are in a fox hole.All aside when all seems lost prayer is thoughts that are prayed the most.

  • @shootfirst2097
    @shootfirst2097 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    09:04 You must have had to be DEEP into the booze for alcohol to NUMB your hunger pangs.
    For me, 2-3 drinks does nothing but INFLAME my hunger. Sad.

  • @Thomas-yr9ln
    @Thomas-yr9ln 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Probably was a very smelly place were they drinked considering they didn't take baths. What I heard it was a effort to take a bath because you had to heat the water and fill it up one bucket at a time. Then empty it one bucket at a time.

    • @MrThedonhead
      @MrThedonhead ปีที่แล้ว

      Even queen victoria only bathed once a year and only if she felt it was needed. They had no concept of germs and thought it was bad fit them like the dirt was a protective

    • @elizabthharris6741
      @elizabthharris6741 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Many didnt heat it. And it was totally labor intensive.
      Even in the country. they shared. So it was person after person using the water over and over til it wasnt worth takig a bath since you were in the muck of everyone else before you. Iean you got 10 kids and the parents
      That is 12 people in that water. It is cold by the 3rd. Lol

  • @sarcasmo57
    @sarcasmo57 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Any one else feel like a penny of jin and a bowl of welks?

  • @twocyclediesel1280
    @twocyclediesel1280 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:41 “an account by Walter Bessent”
    Can we just take a moment to appreciate that glorious beard?

  • @deezcheney9730
    @deezcheney9730 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The blueness was lack of oxygen. Wonder what else was in old gin since it doesn't do that if decent quality.

    • @Vexarax
      @Vexarax 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah the alcohol was mixed with all sorts of awful stuff to make it go further, meaning more profit for the seller!

    • @MrThedonhead
      @MrThedonhead ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He was in withdrawal and then when had a drink he was fine hence the bad walking and shaking hands

    • @erroneous6947
      @erroneous6947 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like methanol or heavy metal poisoning from the still.

  • @caroleevans3553
    @caroleevans3553 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The water was very bad for you

    • @simonpaley3421
      @simonpaley3421 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think people forget that . that`s why people from the far east can`t hold their drink they found if you boiled it it made it safe to drink. we in the west found if you formented it this made it safe to drink and in the UK I`m sure a law was past that in cities an ale house had to be every so many yards. Sailors also had grog as there was no fresh water

    • @Vexarax
      @Vexarax 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@simonpaley3421 - I saw a history channel the other day saying it's a silly myth that some drank alcohol in place of water, but I'm researching the "Great Stink" of Victorian Era London and it is said repeatedly in sources of the time that when people _did_ drink water it was literally all contaminated with sewage, bloated corpse juice, chemicals etc, it was apparently _revolting_ to smell it, let alone drink it. So it seems alcohol is the only alternative for the poor and was probably actually safer than the water!! I don't know why people are saying it's a myth :/

  • @arbel7655
    @arbel7655 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Pernicious and salubrious...you're using some of my favorite words.

  • @maxelldenomie6131
    @maxelldenomie6131 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A guy i knew swore up and down that in his previous life, he had been this guy who pickled himself in the east end, london!

    • @catherinepatton8699
      @catherinepatton8699 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bet he never returned to a cucumber once pickled

  • @trentbolte8311
    @trentbolte8311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great presentation of such a hard/awful time for us as human-beings. (Mainly Europeans) There are many places where this is still actually a reality for many people. What are we doing to help them? Governments don't count! What are you doing?
    I don't want to know actually. I just hope everyone who reads this is already doing the best they can 🙂👍

    • @aliorr9356
      @aliorr9356 ปีที่แล้ว

      You must be doing something really special yourself to post a comment like that.

  • @manicmechanic448
    @manicmechanic448 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Care for a tug of gin?

  • @censusgary
    @censusgary 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The promotion of the 1751 Gin Law was the precursor of the Temperance and Prohibition campaigns of the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

  • @ravikandiah5837
    @ravikandiah5837 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Glassy society of the British Empire, bestowed on its colonies.

  • @daviddaviscrawford3669
    @daviddaviscrawford3669 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome! Alongside this is NO PUBLIC RESTROOMS! Just Alley ways to go! Plus working women of the Night😜! Bathtub Gin!

  • @terracewalker8919
    @terracewalker8919 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A Tory paradise.

    • @khaccanhle1930
      @khaccanhle1930 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, but now it's Labour that keeps the working man down through Environmental regulations and open borders to suppress wages.
      Even now, Middle class do-gooders keep the poor down through legislation.
      At least back then, they didn't pretend to be the party of the working class.

  • @christineterry3079
    @christineterry3079 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for sharing the history on people lifes! the poor and lost ! Living in London! And the Gin house's Drinking Dens ! Very interesting love the voice overs too! ..

    • @FactFeast
      @FactFeast  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s great that you enjoyed the trip to London’s gin palaces and I’m glad the narration added atmosphere. Thank you for your comment.

  • @jaimz33
    @jaimz33 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Government encourages gin drinking. Once everyone is addicted it taxes them. And people voted for this

  • @chalky7285
    @chalky7285 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Another great vid what a lot of people may not know is that Hogarth is the reason we have copyright laws as his work were plagurised so much that he partitioned parliament to make a copyright law to protect his works

    • @curbyourshi1056
      @curbyourshi1056 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wish they would partition parliament.

    • @chalky7285
      @chalky7285 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@curbyourshi1056 oops my bad I'm dyslexic so spelling mistakes happen

  • @careylong4297
    @careylong4297 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There is a Victorian gin Palace in the old market area of Bristol

  • @philipwilliams2310
    @philipwilliams2310 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    - when you Think - NOTHING between You & THE GUTTER!!

  • @mijiyoon5575
    @mijiyoon5575 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    luv your selections of art & illustrations ...as usual ... *TY Fact Feast* 👍👍👍👍👍

    • @FactFeast
      @FactFeast  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s nice to know you enjoyed the presentation. It takes a long time to put together. Thank you for your comment.

  • @jackiereynolds2888
    @jackiereynolds2888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I remember while in an art class in school seeing the 18th century painting (engraving I think) called 'Gin Lane'. I didn't really think anything of it then. Years later I began to study the ear, the place, the people, the disparate class systems and economy's. Eastern London of old and some notable problematic neighborhoods like the area of St. Giles. How the recipie for cheap but lethal gin came down from northern Europe around ~ 1700.

    • @josephberrie9550
      @josephberrie9550 ปีที่แล้ว

      st giles was not east london its near shaftsbury ave wc2 and clerkenwell green on the outskirts of the city of london (the square mile ) was where the gin was produced also not the old east end

    • @Rippenhengst
      @Rippenhengst ปีที่แล้ว

  • @ericray7173
    @ericray7173 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok, but why Gin? IMO the most nasty of all liquors. Had they not discovered any other booze yet?

  • @patkearney9320
    @patkearney9320 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gin was like heroin today now how did they fix this problem in the end. Prohibition don’t fix nothing.

    • @ShakeDownStreet0714
      @ShakeDownStreet0714 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Methadone & Suboxone programs help heroin addiction. Nothing will truly fix the problem though.

  • @straingedays
    @straingedays 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A good number of my ancestors and their decedents called the London boroughs home, from the 1760's to 1980's. Some lived there for generations, while others arrived & got outta there after a few years. I may know the names on my tree, but watching your channel continues to show their lives were far more complicated than I'll ever know 💞

  • @095daz
    @095daz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Escapism the 'junk TV, computer games, mobile phones of the 17 century..and yes I know some people also turn to tobacco, drugs and alcohol but people will seek escapism anywhere and the people who sell that escapism are often wealthy.

  • @DPhasely
    @DPhasely 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My mom's side of the family were bad alcoholics. We'd go to family functions, and everyone had bloodshot eyes and slurred their words. My uncle would usually be passed out on the driveway, and us kids would jump over him chasing each other.😂

  • @donnarogers7732
    @donnarogers7732 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LOL! " Gin will Make Sin!" Love me a good Seagram's or Tanguray and Tonic or a Gin Ricky! A lovely dry Martini w/ olive!
    💚💙

  • @censusgary
    @censusgary ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve seen a fair number of drunken people, some of them drunk on gin, but I’ve never seen one with a blue face. What was in that 1838 gin to cause the “blue ruin”?

  • @annshenton119
    @annshenton119 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wouldn't the people back then laugh at us today paying 50 pounds for gin And we like to believe that we are smarter today Hahaha

  • @canadian_american84
    @canadian_american84 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is absinthe was popular in those days with opium

  • @CountessKitten
    @CountessKitten 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oooh, I love tjkid channel so! I'm so excited to listen. Thanks Fact Feast! I love your content!!!

    • @FactFeast
      @FactFeast  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re welcome. Thank you for your support!

  • @jeanettediss6640
    @jeanettediss6640 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nothing has changed

  • @drinxs505
    @drinxs505 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Palace's"..cute name for the word "party"

  • @j0nnyism
    @j0nnyism ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gin was a consequence of poverty not the cause. It’s easy to think of easy solutions. Just like drugs it’s not a cause just a consequence

  • @69JONESYrugby
    @69JONESYrugby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love your GIN voices!

    • @FactFeast
      @FactFeast  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! I’m glad you think the characters work well for telling these stories.

    • @mollysteel142
      @mollysteel142 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FactFeast Gin among the tribes of Arabia meant Demons who Dwell in the Filth that's where the origins of the name of the Liquor comes from

  • @adamogilvie6951
    @adamogilvie6951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Gin is the only thing I drink. Any other alcohol including beer tastes like piss. Gin does not lead to debauchery Lol! All things in moderation. No I would not drink in one of these gin palaces. I dont even like going to the bar. Thank you for sharing!❤

    • @FactFeast
      @FactFeast  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for your comment. The gin palaces of the 19th Century are described as quite rowdy places.

    • @mollysteel142
      @mollysteel142 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FactFeast To Gin Up makes you Rough and Tough As Steel some even turn into cold blooded killers knifing women of ill repute like the Rippers once did in Victorian England all of them used to Gin Up till they get Drunk till Wack but too much Gin makes erectile dysfunction in a lot Drunkards

    • @catherinepatton8699
      @catherinepatton8699 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you have family history of alcoholism, it's in your DNA after a while you are not going anywhere fast but to the sea of despair it's usually to late by then no matter the product.
      By the way that discretion of moderation what does that look like anyway?

  • @jvcyt298
    @jvcyt298 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Back then it was kind of like Russia is now with vodka. Who could blame them when life was so bleak and miserable.

  • @MrThedonhead
    @MrThedonhead ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You could say the same now! Just go to the towns at weekends!

  • @orlandobrown172
    @orlandobrown172 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    'You may talk of gin and beer when you're stuck way out here.'

  • @rrstows3522
    @rrstows3522 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    History repeats itself , except today it's drugs ,all over the place., people look the same as well

  • @Perfidious_Hollow
    @Perfidious_Hollow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for the vid!

    • @FactFeast
      @FactFeast  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My pleasure! Thanks for watching.

  • @LiftingwithGrandpaCharlie
    @LiftingwithGrandpaCharlie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gin and tonic with a slice of lime is a wonderous elixer with many health benefits.

  • @pup1008
    @pup1008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    From just about living history & from the result of a recent DNA ancestry kit my son bought me for Christmas, I think we are talking about "My people here!"
    I had a wonderful old *Cockney* aunt "Daisy" who grew up in the East End & was 100 when she died 30 odd years ago who distinctly remembers stories of *Jack the Ripper* & the mum's invoking his name to keep the kids in check!
    Outside of that I seem to be made up of everyone who invaded us including 0.7% Italian probably from the Romans!

    • @MrThedonhead
      @MrThedonhead ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's awful did she really use his name to get kids to behave lol it'd be like saying to your kids watch out I'll call Fred west on you

    • @yucatansuckaman5726
      @yucatansuckaman5726 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@MrThedonhead I'm assuming you've never heard any classic German bedtime stories 😂

  • @angloaust1575
    @angloaust1575 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No prohibition or g men or edgar hoover to crack down on them in those days!

  • @version736ha2
    @version736ha2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i fancy a gin

  • @webstercat
    @webstercat ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nothing more annoying than a drunk….sheeessss

  • @jasoncoker1625
    @jasoncoker1625 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Truth😑🚬🥃

  • @sicks6six
    @sicks6six 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Remember at school studying the industrial revolution in Britain and the kids were given Gin at work to numb them to the tasks they had to do. Chimney sweeps. Cotton collector's at mills under the weaving machines. Opening and closing air doors down coal mines. Theres a mining disater memorial where I live and the youngest is 8 and there are loads under 14 the official school leaving age. Gin cost 1 penny a bowl. That was just under two pints. There was no tax on Gin because it was made difrently to other spirits
    (i can't remember what difference it was now) maybe because potatoes are used..

  • @miss-katerees9745
    @miss-katerees9745 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you! You do great work❤

    • @FactFeast
      @FactFeast  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s very kind of you! I’m glad you find the history here worthwhile 😊

  • @grahamfisher5436
    @grahamfisher5436 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the voice acting is brilliant 👏
    ps gets my like 👍and subscription

    • @FactFeast
      @FactFeast  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Welcome to the channel! Thank you. I’m glad you enjoyed this documentary and there’s lots more to come.