Victorians and the Curse of Drink (Poverty, Jail and Death in the 19th Century)
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- Drink was both a pleasure, and a curse, in the Victorian era. Beer and Gin was affordable for the working classes and safer than drinking water! Public houses were everywhere, and intoxication offered a temporary means of escape from the stark realities of everyday life. Drink was closely associated with poverty and was often the focus of attention for philanthropists seeking to address social ills with the morality of abstinence.
One such man was John Gough who battled with drink and became an advocate for temperance. In this video you will hear an account by Gough on the evils of drink - following his travels, the people he met and the letters he received. You will discover just how much a part it played in people's lives from all walks of society, and how its influence could drag a man, and his family along with him, into poverty, gaol, or, worse still - death.
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I’m 67 days sober today. I was never an alcoholic. I just felt that being drunk or hungover was a waste of time. The damage alcohol has done to human society is indescribable.
Addiction is slavery. Lost 25 years of my life to it. I've been free for eight years but I'm never more than one moment of weakness away from kneeling to the master. That's what keeps me green.
This year on Jan 1st will be 30 years since I drank. I come from a long line of alcoholics and feel so happy and grateful that I am a gap in the line, because my life was becoming more and more derelict.
It’s nice to hear that you’re doing well 🙂
We’ll Done!!! ❤
Congratulations that's an amazing achievement.
I am to born to a long line of drinkers. Im 11 years sober . Well done to you
Good job!!!!
The UK has a terrible problem with alcohol, whereas young people get dangerously drunk on weekends, end up in the emergency ward of hospitals. Sometimes nothing but entire rooms of vomiting, drunk youths, cared for free by NHA. Free ambulance rides as well.
I think it's interesting how in the eventual prohibition (in the US) there were massive consequences, but the prohibitionists weren't wrong. They were RIGHT about how destructive alcohol was to people and society. They had first-hand knowledge of what it does and how it works. And not only that, it was an early flexing of women's power trying to change society and their own families for the better. But it also makes sense that in such a horrible society, especially in poverty, that some wanted to get blasted drunk as often as possible. It's interesting how the drinkers can be villains and victims at the same time.
I been in recovery for a very long time, by the grace of God! I have nightly heard stories of destroyed lives and families, including my own! This video and history of alcoholism in the 1800's brought back the horror! "It kept it green" for me as the slogan states!
I wish you good health 🙂
Listening to this brought back memories of when my dad was a violent alcoholic and drug user. For 9 years, we ( my younger sister and myself) had to witness this, and we came from families addicted to something, and we vowed to never forget what we went through and to never become addicted to anything.
It’s a decision to pick up the bottle, the decision to drink until blackout drunk, and a decision to put drink before family.
I didn't know you were a doctor with a totally inconsistent view of modern medicine and the understanding of substance abuse!
@@PaulRudd1941 I didn't know you were a doctor with a totally consistent view of modern medicine and the understanding of substance abuse! Please tell all.
Na. It's misery that causes his drinking
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Alcoholism is a very complex problem
And runs in families. In mine, it gallops
No. It's just greed & lush.
Slogan of the women of the Temperance Movement..."Lips that taste wine will never touch mine"
I am watching this video within walking distance of the John B Gough House in Massachusetts. He had a nice place.
It looks a very attractive house! I found out it is designed in Italianate architecture, was built in 1848 and is listed on the USA’s National Register of Historic Places.
It must have been worse before people understood about alcoholism. Really sad it destroyed so many generations 😢
Abstinence is easier than moderation, drink sensibly and there’s no problem.
If I had to live like that I would have been a cryin drunk. I couldn't drink enough to take my mind off that squalor. Alcohol still does that. It's not like it improves life I don't care what people tell themselves. Debtors prison was the dumbest idea ever.
I love the use of primary sources in your videos. Hearing people in their own words makes these stories come to life
Thank you! I'm glad you think so. I feel it adds to the reality of the past.
I like that too. I find history fascinating, especially wrt how people of middle-to-lower classes lived. It gives Dickens' Christmas Carol a greater historical context. These folks weren't just poor. They were just flat destitute. I never knew they lived in such rodent-infested squalor.
Your mention of drink being an underlying factor in many people's incarceration stories is as true today as it was then.
Every time you emphasis the word "DRINK" I have a flashed image of Father Jack Hackett.
Too funny.
After ten years in the military I saw a lot of alcoholic men and after I left I became a bouncer for fifteen years I have seen first hand and had to deal with the aftermath I have seen what alcohol does to people so I don't drink it gets in the way of my motorbike riding anyway, DONT DRINK then you can afford a motorbike 😜
Nothing much has changed.😢 It ends in jail, institutions, and death, WITHOUT HELP. AA was my saving grace.❤
I used to live in the Albany, NY area and know the modern Pearl Street quite well.
My Grandmother was a frequenter of Yates wine lodge.
The narrator sounds just like a Victorian Englishman would in my mind.
Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed listening to the story!
Eaten by pigs in a London basement. There's all sorts of wrong in that sentence.
Seems perfectly reasonable to me..
Nothing to do with this vid, which as usual was wonderful but...
I was browsing on line, in the many assorted mysteries of clearance items when I saw a book, costing $93.
It was a text book titled "Slums and Slum Clearances in Victorian London"
And I found myself gloating "I can get better info, better explained, from Fact Feast"
So I had to tell you straight away!
(Full disclosure, there was another listing for the same book at over $900 but that's just silly. Unless one was in print n the other online?)
Anyway, as always, thank you for your insightful research and poetic narration. I wonder how many saps spent $90 when they could have been entertained as well as educated...for free.. technically.
That’s an expensive book! A huge thank you for being a regular viewer 😊
And yet. Has it stopped? Hell No! And it continues too this day
They advertise to encourage you to drink. TV billboards anywhere they can
You can ask your parents and grandparents what their parents and grandparents told them about their lives when they were young. Chances are you will find word of mouth history of your family during Victorian and Edwardian times.
If you ask you might be surprised that some of your more ancient ancestors were pre Roman Britons or/and Celts and even the main tribes. Of course tribes did intermarry and interbreed but one marriage partner would usually go to live in the tribe of the other and become known as a member of that tribe, although many tribes came here and settled in large enough numbers to not need to intermarry too much to avoid inbreeding. I know quite a lot of tribes my family came from. I wish my own adult sons would take more interest so our history isn't lost in the global cauldron.
Woe to men who would let something pass the lips and steal their soul.
You should do a video about tabaco as well.
Specialy considering that many of the negative side effects of it weren't known at the time.
An interesting suggestion!
Another gem of a video. So glad to see this channel grow the way it is. This is def. One of my favorite channels. Well done!
You’re very kind! It’s a real pleasure for me to make content that you enjoy. Thank you for being a regular viewer 🙂
Another great vid orated to perfection as always 👏👏😜
Thank you so much 😀 I’m glad you liked watching.
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That’s very kind of you to say, thank you. A warm welcome to the channel! I’m glad you enjoy the history for you here.
How are you doing sir merry Christmas happy new year in advance as always iam gathering main information about topics you mentioned briefly here it’s actually Victorians and Edwardians drank for pleasure but they also drink for pain as use of alcohol as treatment in medical practice continued throughout 19and 20 th centuries. Druckness was huge problem not just in London but throughout whole of country in later decades of 19 th century. Press coverage that ended to focus on East end of London as being breeding ground for majority of vices that blighted Victorian society as drinking habits victims of drink tragic results of propensity to drink husband goes to bed his wife is still out of doors drinking with her friends many men are unaware their wives take their husbands Sunday clothes on Monday morning to pawn shop spend money obtain drink
Thank you for your comment and wishes. There were also men out drinking leaving women at home with children.
Thanks for the vid!
Thank you for the comment 🙂
When I was young, my sisters used to steal my clothes, etc. One of my sisters even stole my dog, my Rosary, my perfume and my medications, etc...all so she could buy cocaine. I haven't spoken to her in 20 years.
Interesting to see that time hasn't changed a thing. Prisons are still awash with people put there by crimes committed under drink
That one was enjoyable,the generosity of the poor women,who could expect less opportunities as girls than young men,would offer life lines to potentially kind men grown from kind boy survivor's
Glad you found this episode compelling. Thank you for your comment!
💚love these videos
Thank you so much! I’m happy to know I make videos you enjoy 🙂
I’d be interested in that as well, though it does depend if I can find any useful source material of the time. I’m always looking to discover more. Thank you for the suggestion.
Its amazing to hear that they thought death was worse than their wretched condition. To die is to be released! A freedom from this rotten world.
Twenty plus year drunk here🤘🤫😏
When do you plan to break free?
Thanks You F.F.😊
My pleasure 😀 Thank you too.
Nature vs Nurture? Who knows... A bit of both looks like
Well done I've not touched a drop in 24yr and even the smell of drink turns my stomach
Interesting video
Thank you! It’s appreciated.
Finally poor east end of Imbibing methylphenidate spirits mixed with hot water lemon juice sugar people have tasted their mixture described agreeable but highly intoxicated thank you for your wonderful cultural documentary channel best wishes for you your family friends
I love Sherry - no idea why it feel out of popularity but I recommend any history lovers who also like a drink to get yourselves a bottle of Amontillado and travel back through the past a sip at a time.
(Plus it’s also quite cheap since people don’t like it so much)
Sweet!
No,abstinence
Greetings from Cocoa Beach Florida
Hello 🙂 That’s a wonderfully sounding place name. Thank you for watching!
Wonderful
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed.
Drink is the curse of the working class (or is it vice versa?).
BUT Being a drunk was looked on better depending on what got you there... what street you took ;-)
I love Victorian times - pure nonsensical elegant madness with 100% conviction and decision.
Ive been on a downward spiral wirh alcohol, but i could see where it was leading so i simply stopped it...
It should be easy to quit shouldn't it, once you start to see where its leading you, that is, towards the gates of hell?
For some reason...i feel death would not be as bad living in victorian slims
It's best to be a Teetotaler Complete Abstence from Alcohol because Alcoholism and the Disease of Addiction is a Serious issue it's not a Joke!!!
I enjoy a few strong drinks in the evening to settle the nerves and relax. I prefer a good quality Scotch or Bourbon. Cheers!
🥃 😀
Work is the curse of the drinking man . That’s my theory.
1800s nobody in prison for drunk driving.
I guess I could do without the poverty and jail,but free flow of beer and gin sounds like heaven on earth to me! I'm born a century too late I suppose.
".....it's the poor wot gets the blame".
Alcohol is super overrated
BOOZE is booooooooooooring.
The video looked interesting, but I couldn't listen to the narrator's voice any longer. Sorry
JACK. [Rushing over to MISS PRISM.] Is this the handbag, Miss Prism? Examine it carefully before you speak. The happiness of more than one life depends on your answer.
MISS PRISM. [Calmly.] It seems to be mine. Yes, here is the injury it received through the upsetting of a Gower Street omnibus in younger and happier days. Here is the stain on the lining caused by the explosion of a temperance beverage, an incident that occurred at Leamington. And here, on the lock, are my initials. I had forgotten that in an extravagant mood I had had them placed there. The bag is undoubtedly mine. I am delighted to have it so unexpectedly restored to me. It has been a great inconvenience being without it all these years.
JACK. [In a pathetic voice.] Miss Prism, more is restored to you than this hand-bag. I was the baby you placed in it.
The Importance of Being Earnest by Oscar Wilde.
Edit: If not for Margaret Rutherford (who played Miss Prism on screen) I would never have heard about "small beer" via her Miss Marple series. Small beer being a term for non alcoholic (temperance) beers. She was tea total.
FABULOUS ❤❤❤