The Amazing Process of Making Tez Raftar Built their Quality Auto Rikshaw ]
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I enjoyed that. Simple mechanical fabrication with no nasty and unnecessary bureaucracy to foul things up. Transport built to supply a need. Great stuff boys....
Zero protection for the workers health. Great stuff....not
all the protection is given to the worker. what are u talking about?@@flybywire5866
A globalização não enxerga esse vídeo, mas aqui observarmos coisas altamente importantes.
1) Transporte de baixo custo;
2) Gente simple empregada;
3) Montagem adequada a necessidade;
4) Sobrevivência aos mercados atuais;
Parabéns, trabalho honrado.
Quando os chineses fazem o mesmo, chamam de porcaria e exploração do trabalhador 🤷🏻♂️
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Those little trucks are used harder abused more and beat on more than any "properly welded" SUV or pickup truck that you can name
Yes
I am amaze that Pakistanis can do almost everything. They are resourceful, creative and committed in their respective trades.
What a great machine! "LongLife" written on the tire and no lock washers on major components, great sense of humor there.
It was enjoyable to see the fabrication go so smoothly. Thanks for another well-made product.
Well made...?? Look at the welding..!!
4:00 сварить обычной сваркой так, чтоб рама винтом не пошла, это заслуживает уважения!!!
21:30 - вот это перстень, не иначе - мастер цеха!!!
Если варить гнутым электродом деформации не бывает.
@@user-ir7op8tv3y предварительно обмакнув его в воду!
Дык в кондукторе зажато, куды ей деваться?
У нас так УАЗы делают кажись, а так мотолыга чоткая
@@user-ru7vl1ir8w Если бы так делали УАЗы, то этот автомобиль был бы в каждом дворе...
A cheap and simple product that is easy to maintain. No frills are necessary for this type of vehicle. If one was available in the UK I would buy it for a delivery vehicle.
اللهم بارك في إخواننا الباكستانيين و بارك اللهم في جميع أمة سيدنا محمد صلى الله عليه و سلم أخوكم من المغرب 🇲🇦
Я поражен упорством этих терминаторов: старики почти все уже очки носят с неслабыми линзами и все равно продолжают варить без сварочной маски!
та с них гвозди сыпятся они продолжают ехать на ободах, без ущерба конструкции завода и трудящихся😅
@@sun_ico Да хорошо хоть тормоза задние дисковые .
следующая стадия это конвеер, с кучей безработицы
Great to see a prosperous enterprise making a product for PEACEFUL purposes .
احسنت به تلاش و پشتکار و نو آوری شما.bravo very good
Я поймал Зайца!!! Глаза аааа 😄😄😄 Табуретки на колёсах 😁 Супер мастера ,👍🏿 В деревне такая тележка не заменима
Simple, effective, repairable . . . can't ask for more than that.
Glad to see these guys have work benches, and inventory racks.
They are so cute. There ideal scooting around town. No high way driving that's for sure. Manual labor is top priority. 👌
Workers are wearing goggles and gloves. And they don't wear sandals. Incredible! ))
Они носят перчатки и защитные очки. И обуты не в сандалии. Невероятно!
But welding with sunglasses is no good.
He's going to be blind very soon. Even if he's closing his eye he's getting flashed several times a day
The owner must have money as they are using quality foreign welding equipment.
Ага, растут прям на глазах)
Потому что это индусы, а не пакистанцы😀
@@user-kt2tz9yc3x а мы в это время без свих колош.
Interesting to see one of the Company executives involved on the shop floor during assembly. Great way of finding out what the assembly problems are.
He was there for video notoriety, nothing else.
Look at me, look at me....haha😅
Well done 👍 They should be very proud of their work
Good job India very good I like yours ideas, all is very good, congratulations, from Mexico
MashaAllah I’m really proud of these wonderful workers
I am glad to see shoes and eye protection on the workers.
Shame you didn't see they are all wearing masks because of their employer not wanting to invest in a decent welding fumes extracting system...
This is the first Pakistani building video I’ve seen with hard hats and safety glasses
Можно бесконечно смотреть как работают люди.
теперь я понимаю как буханку на зводе собирают, что она уже через месяц тебя на колени ставит.
@@playzday53 Я уверен, дай этим ребятам собирать Буханку, она была бы как игрушечка! Ты посмотри как они старательно все подгоняют и перепроверяют! И посмотри как сварена наша Буханка.
I consider modern cars way overpriced but seeing these things being build makes me apreciate modern factorys with automated assembly lines, quality control, with all the R&D put into making machines capable ensuring it's occupants surviving a crash. I don't doubt these people are working hard in the factory.
Tin coffins
Really? So you see these causing hundreds of deaths every day ? There are thousands plying the road and yet never a story about these flying apart at speed and people being launched into their deaths.
And while it is great to have robot based vehicle assembly but not so long ago Detroit was assembling their vehicles the same way.
Labor became expensive, robots took over.
Let this country’s economy get to that state then that can happen.
In the meantime let’s congratulate these guys on making an honest living.
@@Yankee7000 As I wrote: I respect the workers and their craftmanship, but robots do a more consistent job. I consider that 3 wheeled thing a bad joke called a vehicle, not when it was first made in the 50's (and before), but for now modern days. "flying apart at speed" - what speed? 119km/h is not fast. Put it on a motor way and try to pass a 40to truck or let's see sidewind effect on it. "people being launched into their deaths" well statistics about Indian traffic accidents-death in close relation to their low average speed are not favorable for your argument. Again, don't get me wrong: three wheeled bikes with cargo space were a great idea to get economies back up after the second world war but since then technology progressed. Have you owned a brand new modern car? To me, it's the best (safest) feeling.
@@firionrazar3797 I have no idea where you went with this: these were categorized as coffins, in which case either they are falling apart at whatever speed they move or are crashing uncontrollably. Somehow you presented some speed 119 km and a presentation on motorways and sidewinds. These are City and small town transports. They aren’t seen in highways.
It’s a poor country. With limited resources and manual labor they are creating people movers. Whenever this society progresses to the point where these poor man’s transport is no longer needed, they will wither away, as as happened everywhere else.
Let’s not criticize a less developed based on highly developed economy standards.
As far as my ownership of a modern vehicle is concerned, I don’t see how owning any of them makes a difference other than informing me about the difference between a high tech Japanese or German vehicle and the tech of a three wheeler slow people mover.
Very interesting video. Saw a lot of technical features about these little scooters I did not expect to see. Everything from welding practices, using non caged ball bearings in the steering, the number of splines on the rear axle yoke connection, the use of a 2 stroke engine, the gas tank filler cap being inside on the dash board, the surprisingly large wiring harness. And the use of disk brakes on the rear.
With the coming requirements for electrification of these small vehicles, it will be interesting to see if these 3 wheeled trucks/scooters adapt or go away.
It looks like these shown here are intended for passenger/taxi service with seating for a driver and 4 people. I would not be surprised if up to 7 people are seen on these things and they are used to handle a ton or more of cargo. Those rear springs are quite stiff. Stick some weight in the back of these things and they will be much less prone to tip over.
These are still low speed urban/farm working vehicles. Definitely built to an affordable price point. And some of the design features are still high wear and maintenance features.
This company is very fortunate to have such highly skilled and dedicated staff working for them.
Dedicated maybe, but "Highly Skilled" is very doubtful. Don't forget the video is sped up considerably.
Lol. The average IQ is 70 there so I guess this is the brain trust.
@@aliathar1387 BUAHAHAHAHA!!!
Pakistan have hardworking people. Great people working with less facilities.
اللّه اکبر ماشاءالله سبھاں اللّه جزاک اللّه خیرا
Nice work good job Bro
And not a robot in sight. Brilliant job guys.
Just what i was thinking, good old fashioned hand built ........
And best of all it's not made in China... 👋😅👍
@@brickcity9mm896 now everything use chinese materials.
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Народ кто обратил внимание как мужик от руки затянул гайку на кардане и тут же поставил шплинт.....ну и силушка у него в руках....!!!!)))))))))))))))
Будем надеяться, что просто не показали ;(
Excellent job, I hope all components are made in Pakistan, like engines, gearboxes, lights,wires, fans, radiators ...est.
Seems very well made for a fast production I notice its got a wind shield and wiper but there is a huge gap on top of the window frame you would just get soaked and the inside of the dash and instruments would get soaked and rusted out . The water would pour all over you and the cluster and the seats and the bottom of the car and in nothing flat it would be toast that is before the instruments went up in smoke from all the water pouring in I cant beleive they just left the huge gap for the water to pour in
WET air vent! haha
This seems to be the 'Sixer' model with a 200cc engine, which is 353,000 PKR Pakistan Rupees = $1550 (USD) or £1,295 (GBP). They even make a 10-seater for the school run, a Pick-Up XL version and a 'Supreme' with just 3 seats. Very versatile base.
cool info thanks how fast do they go ?
@@raymondj8768 The 200cc version are around 30mph, but other makes use a 300cc which will nudge 50mph.
@@terencejay8845 no shiot lol thanks man !!
@@US_AND_IL_ARE_WAR_CRIMINALS It's a specific vehicle for a specific job. Its not meant to be a car.
А какой расход бензина на 100км?
My favorite parts were the blacksmith tong vise-grips and the CNG EURO-2 stickers.
I thought they really had CNG but didn't see any compressed gas tank be installed, just the petrol one.
@@svetko05 CNG= Cee...No Gas....haha You walk.
Also no one had wrenches for castle nuts. Just stick a screwdriver in one slot and hammer away.
ماشاءاللہ تبارک اللہ، ورلڈ کلاس صنعت۔ میں نے پوری وڈیو دیکھی ہے اور میں کحسکتا ہوں کے یہ پاکستان کا مستقبل روشن ہے۔ الحمدلللہ۔ ایک ہندی
I think this is India.
Thanks bro❤️❤️
Pakistan❤️❤️
@@thepubliceye Yes greater India 🤣
@@thepubliceye Indian workshops are way better than this
Makes me super happy to see these workers wearing some form of PPE. Usually working conditions are far worse.
Amazing workers. This industry is blessed with hardworking me. They are smart, hardworking, cooperative and polite. I thought that they are all brothers who come from one family and well disciplined. I think they either Pakistans, Indians or Bengals. I salute you.
You salute INBREEDS??
Apesar de artesanal muito bem construído porquê se errar um pontinho aí na hora de montar já era! Parabéns!!
That was impressive, well done. I'm sure they don't get paid enough.
Doing hard work to assemble Autos. Long live all with good health and with the needy wealth. Respect females.
Китайский транспорт , теперь мне не кажется таким уж плохим...
И тут ничего плохого нет. Дешево-сердито.
Китай обогнал нас в автопроме
да не ссы буханка также собирается😂
we used to build exactly the same thing in the USA in almost exactly the same way....we called it the Ford Model T ....it was probably the single most successful vehicle ever produced in the western world.
Yes, and I am sure that these are built with the same unbridled passion that is shared with every other hourly wage earner around the world. 😝
Actually, the Model T was much more advanced engineering than this go cart…
Do you know what exactly means exactly?
@@yamahajapan5351কি না তা আমি জানি না তবে আমার মনে হয় বেটার এটি পিন করতে ক্লিপটি টাচ করে ধরে থাকুন। আনপিন করা ক্লিপ ১ ঘণ্টা পরে মুছে ফেলা হবে।
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I have been thinking about buying a rikshaw when I retire in Philippines. After seeing the guys craftsmanship i hope there in a dealer there
Team work, great innovations with making transportation easy
Muito bom este canal serve de grande aprendizado para pequenos empresários.
6:00 man welding without eye protection!
God level 9999999!
Absolutely amazing, we should all have one of these, forget supercars and electric vehicles, these would save the planet!
Hard working man, shame they are pay a litle amount of money, regards to this honest people from Serbia.
Brilliant job, I love watching these men work. An excellent product which will give many people a livelihood, when they are in use.
Техника безопасности? Не, не слышал...
При производстве этого тут-тука использовано деталей и выполненно операций больше, чем при производстве "Жигулей". А металла потраченно, наверное, больше, чем на современный автомобиль - настоящий рамный внедорожник! :-)
Возьмешь себе такой😁
I love you tezraftar, im muslim from Indonesian Allahuakbar.
Hello Amazing Tech. Those Tez Raftars look very versatile and handy for use in busy, congested areas. Nice ladder frame, with good rigidity. Highways filled with larger vehicles would be avoided, if survival was important.
Lots of grumping in comments about welding. The lay-up bench did tac-welds, while correctly placing the parts in assembly jigs. Then the real welding station went over all of it, resulting in solid, fairly accurate frames. Nothing wrong with all that. What you saw there is exactly how it is done in hundreds of industries. Be nice to train the welders up a bit. And see grease on every pivot, especially for the drive-shaft splines!!
I know, in Sweden for example every last part and step is way more advanced. Hooray for progress, etc. If Sweden had 400 times the population, you better believe things would be quite like Pakistan or where ever. They are making the best machines they can with what they have. Doing better than just adequate too.
Please ensure all your valuable workers go home undamaged, every day. The companies all do better with healthy, experienced employees. Best wishes for 2023.
Thank you for not being a racist, these people are doing the best they can with what they have, it's easy to criticize when you're not the one making a vehicle which is already an impressive feat by itself.
The welding Jig does help only sofar, if the welds are bad. I saw on the finished Rikshaw welds which show the people are not Trained or not interested in fixing. I'm sad that the system in PK did not change since i was there and that is over 30 Years ago. I did work in Faisalabad and near Lahore, i was even involved in recuiting of mechanics. Waht is still missing is a good Training for the people which leads to the result that a good Idea turns out only a medicore result. I wish the good luck.
@@Swiss_Pinoy Hello SVO. Your assessment is correct. A few years ago I retired from a massive company. All over the world the engineers or smart people have retired or moved on. Everything is being run by accountants now. Thusly a whole lot of short-sighted, narrow focussed people are making all the decisions. Such as; Don't train anyone, forget loyalty, make it barely good enough, safety adds costs, buy the cheapest materials. And so on. No wonder nothing works and everything is nearly impossible. All key decisions come from Wall Street now.
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Love to see this type of craftsmanship!
Diep respect for this guys no work closed and no safety 👞 shoes there boss makes good money i hope the payment is good for this boys RESPECT ✊
Excellent craftsmen. Excellent 3-wheeler. Wish they sold them in USA.
It's hand made just like Rolls Royce. Very very expensive. Only Pakistani sheikhs can afford. That's why it's not exported.
I love how the rear shocks come wrapped in protective plastic but they stack completed dashboards one atop the other. It’s obvious their QC is wildly inconsistent. Notice how many operations involve a hammer?
میں نے ان کافی ویلڈر کو دیکھا اس کارخانے میں۔ ویلڈنگ کا ماہر کوئی بھی یہاں نہیں دیکھا سارے ہی پھول جھڑیاں چلا رہے ہیں ۔کی ھوئی ویلڈنگ ایسے ھے جیسے کسی نے پان کھا کر تھوک پھینکی ھو۔اور پھر ایسی ویلڈنگ کی ھوئی سواری پہ ہماری عوام سفر کرے گی ۔ماشااللہ🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨😐😐😐
That was a very interesting video. enjoyed it.
These three wheels were first to build from Italy in 60, and has been popular in Southeast Asia in 60 and 70 for transportations to carry people animals everything in short distances, today is popular in Thailand India for sightseeing tourists in local distances.
Всё точно удачи и мира.
vespa
@@seemorebutts8834 Piaggio Ape
Moto Guzzi Alce.
America had the Cushman three wheeler golf cart also built three wheeled utility trucks with and without dumping beds .commonly used on fairgrounds, golf courses, larger city Parke and schools for grounds maintenance.
Yeah, I remember the Cushman and Harley-Davidson ServiCars being used in NYC in the 1970s and early 80s for metermaids, wastebasket sanitation and letter carriers.
Gran lección a los economistas neoliberales que promueven las importaciones de productos extranjeros y la robotizacion en industrias y fábricas en desmedro de la mano de obra humana de calidad y que genera valor agregado a las materias primas y da trabajo a cientos de miles de personas. Felicitaciones por el video, sigan adelante. Saludos desde Chile.
Very Employment potential industry.. Govt. Should encourage such medium size companies
Maravilha, gostei desse meio de transporte 👍👍
Congratulations on the excellent product manufactured by your company, I would like to suggest that you open a unit here in São Paulo, Brazil.
Very nice video of life in a functional factory set- up to earn enough for basic family needs & the product to serve the basic 200c.c daily transport mode for people & goods.Whereas we use a 3 litre
vehicle to justify modern living standard.
I love my tezraftar,, great work,,,nice video
COUNTRY THAT WORKS PERFECTLY WITH ITS CITIZENS WITH PROUD!!! BRAVO INDIA!!
India??
These are make in Pakistan.
In India production standard is much better : th-cam.com/video/Jk6V1Kdeons/w-d-xo.html
where is the foookin catalytic converter? and the mass air flow sensor? and the oxygen sensors? and the GPS/videoscreen? ..... i give these guys credit...they build it themselves in 3 hours, it costs dimes to buy and pennies to operate and they left out all the bulchyte that we are required by law to have
And it's a fkn death trap
@@grahammcmurran7857 they build death traps and we build debt traps
I'm no emissions expert but last time I checked motorcycles (which this pretty much is) don't have cat convertors.
But in that country it probably costs a fortune to buy one. The ordinary Mohamed on the street has a bicycle or walks
@@crocodile2006 They do come with catalytic converters. Unless its an old model.
Wow... !!! My best friend, It's always great. Your video is excellent quality. We liked and enjoyed to the end. Thanks
Konstruksinya sangat kuat ..semoga sukses mandiri dan siap export ke luar termasuk ke indonesia .
Eu amo a simplicidade como é construído as coisas na Índia.
Não gosto de frescura.
This is not india it's Pakistan.
Pakistan, Not India.
Класс, ручной труд всегда ценился👍👍
Good start to Pakistan's economy and transportation
AMAZING AMAZING AMAZING … IMAGINE IF THEY HAD THE RESOURCES OF A MODERN AMERICAN FACTORY …. THESE PEOPLE WOULD BE EXTREMELY COMPETITIVE …
There is a lot of very good engineering going on here so that all of the purchased parts fit with little effort using a basic welded frame with little “standard” quality control …
NONE OF THIS VEHICLE HAS BEEN BUILT WITHOUT GREAT THOUGHT !!!!💪💪💪💪💪
29:11 I swear that kid is in every one of these videos. It’s crazy because every time I watch these that kid is doing something in these videos. He must be the content creator and they allow him to work and film at the same time at the different job sites.
Alfred Hitchcock is alive.
He is the producer and director.
Lindo ótimo trabalho sonho de consumo meu 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷quem sabe um dia 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Brillante trabajo!!!
Mis felicitaciones a los trabajadores. Es una admiracion que en la fabricacion de estos vehiculos solo sea hecha por hombres y no maquinas. En mi opinion es mucho mejor
Love to watch your videos.
Que maravilha tudo isso. Parabéns a todos os profissionais todos muitos qualificados e perfeitos nas suas funções, não é nada fácil para organizar uma equipe dessa, parabéns também aos que elaboraram tudo isso, parece impossível fazer tudo isso funcionar dessa maneira, todos são profissionais muitíssimos importantes para a conclusão da "produto duradouro e eficaz. Gostaria de dar um abraço em cada participante, também agradeço a Deus por estar no mesmo tempo disso tudo!
I’d like to look over the quality of the welds on these cars
الي كل البشر ----- كل سنه وانتم بخير
سنه حلوه ياجميل --
А я бы себе такую тарантайку на лето приобрёл)))!
Молоток и зубило!
У тебя есть еще железная щётка я так понимаю
@@coldlight9776 Хорошо что поняли! У меня ещё есть шлифовальный станок!!!!
@@meteo1969 , ого! То есть даже самолёты можешь делать)
Ага, "завод" , а гайки на руле зубилом закручивают😬
Зубило сертифицированное. Прошло проверку. А ключ? Непонятно где и кем сделан.
Similar to Piaggio Ape. I love those things. I wish I could drive one here on Long Island. They'd run me right off the road. Maniacs.
Bravo. You have to switch to the auto industry. It is not impossible. Go ahead, you are heroes
اللهم بارك لهم عمل ايديهم.... برضاء واحسان...
Very nice work, gentlemen. An incredibly useful vehicle.
what's the nice work here? look at the welds, it's a complete tragedy, the whole construction is complete bullshit
it's all nice and good what you wrote. but let me laugh at the weldings, those who travel on this are not safe. the workers can't weld, so this project wouldn't cost more if it was properly welded, it wouldn't get a traffic permit with us
Класс. Не ожидал такого производства. А интересно, сколько штук в день их делают?
10 штук видимо не меньше
Nice job guys made in Pakistan!
Now is just a matter of time to begin make middle size furgon vagoons like Ford Transit or citroen boxer, just pick the main engine and the rest you have enough experience and your guys have enough experience manpower! Greetings! Best future for your enterprise!
God video!
Technology from 19th century. really amazing
На автовазе лады так до сих пор собирают :)
неее автоваз ещё лет так 100 собирать ненаучатся пока человек 100 из ПАКИСТАНА на завод не привезут🤣
Вот бы вас умников инженерами через год вробще бы закрылись😂🤦♂️ну либо панамеру бы выпустили. Но что то мне подскпзывает что первое
Very nice. It would have been great to see the paint job.
Was just scrolling for the same thing
Maybe you are lucky you didn't.
Очень зачётная работа. Я в восторге над ТЕЗРАФТАР.
all by hand = admiration!!!!! from canada
Во до чего дошел прогресс. Роботов от живых людей не отличить!
Да видел чудеса техники,но такого!Эта телега развалится,потому что все на гвоздях и саморезах. Стыки без прокладок железо к железу,болты без граверов и так далее.Это ,,чудо техники"еще и за хорошие деньги продадут,а стоимость этого ,,чуда три копейки".
1500 долларов стоит
Very Good Quality Tri Wheeler
Auto rickshaw handmade mass produced
Thinking of giving up my Maserati These models are real killers I could definitely use 1 in nyc
Europe needs to learn from them, everything is coordinated, honed to perfection.
Europe has the Vespa threewheeler, otherwise its not a real market in for this.
I can’t help but which planet you are from 🫣
Planet U.S.A 🤷♂️?
Yeah... Sure...
TESLA should have produced here
This is very different from what I normally see on this channel. A proper factory with concrete floors, walls, windows and a roof and working on beeches. Normally it is on the street or opens to the elements and everything being done on a muddy floor crouching down.
Then you have actually got most people wearing eye goggles, gloves safety boots, masks and helmets. I normally see people pouring molten metal wearing open toed sandals and grinding with no PPE. It is almost like someone cares about their health for the first time ever.
Even the process seems to be better controlled with assembly jigs.
Sadly the welding looks very poor to me visually and I wonder if there is decent penetration of the weld. Lots of spatter and Lots of bolts just done up with an impact gun to however tight they feel like. I saw no torque wrenches used. I do wonder if the tool used to fix the fuel tank might have torque control but I can't be sure.
But still on the whole very much better than any other video I have seen on this channel. One Day maybe someone will use a Torque Wrench on a bolt and someone on a lathe will use a dual gauge instead or a bent piece of metal to centre the workpiece.
Maybe some of these workers might live long enough to see that day.
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Probably noone from them doesnt know how to weld with CO2 MAG welding machine or they know it but dont want to do it properly. They use very high current but distance between weld and torch is 2-5 times higher than optimal. Probably to slow down clogging of torch tip by sputter. Lot of welds looks instantly rusted - low gas flow and/or far bigger distance between welding material and torch than optimal. Welds are horrible, looks horrible, amount of sputter during welding is insane, welding also doesnt sound good. Proper setup of CO2 welding should have really smooth and nice sound.
☹☹😡Well done these workers There is always the misery guts looking for faults.Of course they are perfect....not.🤯🥴
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Stop giving lessons to others, you said the same thing about the Chinese and the rest of the other countries. We don’t care, these people find jobs and they don’t have the same living conditions as you. Your welding classes, we don’t care, the result they don’t buy utilities 30 or 40 times more expensive imports from countries that plunder the resources of poor countries and send back products 50 times more expensive.
We are obviously very much alike. My comments are identical to yours. Staggered at the quality of welding considering these guys would be doing it all day. I expected better than that.