The black Tudor myth exposed; how a false, historical narrative became established

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  • @timgomolka644
    @timgomolka644 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +96

    Unfortunately, history teachers are pushing this nonsense as fact.

    • @AB-C1
      @AB-C1 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      @@timgomolka644 that makes it Criminal Brainwashing & Indoctrination, not "Unfortunate"

  • @zarach9459
    @zarach9459 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +153

    The falsification of history used to be a common plot in dystopian novels like 1984, but we are experiencing it in Real time, the worst thing is that it is working, the most young people learn history from cinema or television and from books full of happy falsehoods.

    • @ericpode6095
      @ericpode6095 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Orwell was warning us.

    • @Fazerjon
      @Fazerjon 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@ericpode6095Predictive programming

    • @solatiumz
      @solatiumz 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Orwell told us the answer to this problem quite clearly. Unfortunately the "middle classes" are far too comfortable.

    • @jmorton201
      @jmorton201 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@solatiumz Outer party workers?

  • @Wulfyr
    @Wulfyr 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +149

    The trumpeter was the equivalent of an exotic pet in the Tudor Royal court. He was an expression of Royal wealth and reach. He wasn't in a position of importance. He was a Royal novelty and he was novel because of the rarity of African people in Tudor England.

    • @jandavidson7093
      @jandavidson7093 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      A royal menagerie exhibit.

    • @neddyseagoon9601
      @neddyseagoon9601 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      They even had to give him a trumpet when he got off the dinghy...😂

    • @blueroseleroy
      @blueroseleroy 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Occident. Eskimos again ?

    • @Musrusticus-
      @Musrusticus- 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Henry the VIII obviously liked a bit of jazz…

    • @KapBBit
      @KapBBit 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      He was to Henry VIII what Yasuke was to Nobunaga

  • @Neil-dl3ke
    @Neil-dl3ke 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +73

    Well done simon for exposing this utter nonsense

  • @Foll-q7z
    @Foll-q7z 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +66

    Tudor Lives Matter

  • @eddiedunn8061
    @eddiedunn8061 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +169

    it ruined the new Wolf Hall series. There were important courtiers, Ladies in waiting and guards running round. Such silliness. Imagine making a film about China in the 1570's and plonking black people in it!
    Considering the time and effort to make the costumes and sets so authentic it seems ridiculous to then ruin the historical accuracy in the name of inclusivity.

    • @thomasrobert4654
      @thomasrobert4654 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      everything is ruined by diversity.

    • @keithrose6931
      @keithrose6931 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      Well said !

    • @Occident.
      @Occident. 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Boycotts work.

    • @JaneEasterbrook-bn3ux
      @JaneEasterbrook-bn3ux 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I was horrified that my ancestral cousin Thomas Wyatt was played by a black and also Jane Seymour's sister. We have portraits and sketches of them. They were NOT black!!!!!!!

    • @edbaker515
      @edbaker515 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      Couldn't agree more, BBC alternative version of history, , they are so insecure, it makes a mockery of british history

  • @JPB-1976
    @JPB-1976 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    The myth of the black Tudors can be filed alongside the similar myth of the black architects.

  • @catsamazing338
    @catsamazing338 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +58

    I don’t see that a black African living four years or so in Tudor England makes him a Tudor.
    Likewise if that same person lived four years in Austria in the 1500’s, it wouldn’t make him a Habsburg.

    • @Occident.
      @Occident. 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      🎯

    • @careytitan9097
      @careytitan9097 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I agree and just said the same!

    • @geeman4041
      @geeman4041 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It would if he had a huge jawline 😂

  • @michaelgibson4705
    @michaelgibson4705 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +54

    I was not aware that Henry’s third wife had a black sister until Wolf hall enlightened me 😂

    • @georgehetty7857
      @georgehetty7857 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Indeed, one of the mixed race Seymour family of that period 🤭👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

    • @susanellis1828
      @susanellis1828 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@georgehetty7857what mixed race family??

  • @conrod7
    @conrod7 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +63

    First black guy I saw was on a visit to London for the bike show in 1978

    • @RonP1.2
      @RonP1.2 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      And he done a runner with one of the bikes?

  • @johnhaynes5814
    @johnhaynes5814 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    The book should really be called 'Black tourists in Tudor England'.

  • @sparkleypegs8350
    @sparkleypegs8350 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +109

    Its why I stopped watching Wolf Hall season 2. Just rediculous.

    • @Richard-r1x7d
      @Richard-r1x7d 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I’ve never heard of wolf hall.

    • @evaflowervines9520
      @evaflowervines9520 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Probably because Hillary Mantell pre deceased the making of part 2 . Don't think she would have stood for the bollox if she could have helped it .

    • @tennysonfordblackbird2087
      @tennysonfordblackbird2087 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Us to.

    • @eddiedunn8061
      @eddiedunn8061 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@evaflowervines9520 I think the production companies are told to employ a quota of actors and indeed tecnical posts.

    • @thomasrobert4654
      @thomasrobert4654 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@evaflowervines9520 yes i thought that myself, its worth watching it though just for the usual brilliant british acting.

  • @JamesCartist
    @JamesCartist 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +44

    there is a huge amount of barrel scraping required to get black history to fit with the UK's it would appear.

  • @shaned3398
    @shaned3398 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +45

    If I was black I would be so embarrassed

    • @RonP1.2
      @RonP1.2 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You have a point, it's basically taking the p out of them

    • @LenaK-i8r
      @LenaK-i8r 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      That would depend on you feeling shame. Clearly they have none.

    • @manoo422
      @manoo422 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      I think its called cultural misappropriation...

    • @JP-lk2qs
      @JP-lk2qs 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@LenaK-i8rexactly

    • @vespasianflavius2766
      @vespasianflavius2766 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They aren't all their excuses and myths only oust themselves for what they really are if you read between the lines, actually you don't even need to read between the lines.

  • @maudietriplett
    @maudietriplett 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +68

    They are not “black Tudors”, but only black, of one type or another, who spent a bit of time in Tudor England… big difference.

    • @alaninsoflo
      @alaninsoflo 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Dude, that's what Simon said. No need to just repeat it.

  • @aires69uk
    @aires69uk 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    I've hated the recent series of Wolf Hall for the inclusion of black actors. Making Thomas Cromwell's daughter-in-law black? Absolutely abhorrent to rewrite history like this.

    • @sentinal2343
      @sentinal2343 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      To correct history as it NEVER been recorded correctly

    • @sonmi2246
      @sonmi2246 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@sentinal2343 if you hate yt people so much, why do you want to steal their history and their culture and claim it as your own? Bit contradictory there..

    • @aires69uk
      @aires69uk 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sentinal2343 I've read your other posts and you are racist. Jog on.

    • @sentinal2343
      @sentinal2343 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sonmi2246 Are you that Stupid? its THEM who are the INVADER/OCCUPIERS, as such its THEM who have assimilated ALL things WESTERN and the West is a BLACK only region! is that clear enough!

  • @foxbatgpw1
    @foxbatgpw1 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +151

    Im convinced there must have been black Tudors. The recent BBC series of Wolf Hall had black members of Henrys privy council and tower of London guards. So it must be true. The BBC wouldn't try to mislead it viewers would they ?

    • @lookandlisten5740
      @lookandlisten5740 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'm sure BBC Verify will have checked it over to make sure before any white actor's were hired by mistake.

    • @christinerussell113
      @christinerussell113 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

      You missed out the mystery of Queen Jane Seymour, herself and her brothers being white, miraculously having a black sister. Nothing was said about this very strange family dynamic.

    • @rewdwarf123
      @rewdwarf123 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      Just like they were in the court of William the Conqueror...

    • @georgehetty7857
      @georgehetty7857 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      Lord Seymour had black sisters 😃

    • @blueroseleroy
      @blueroseleroy 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@georgehetty7857 Bob has black boyfriends..

  • @bluedeskfan2754
    @bluedeskfan2754 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    Won’t stop film and tv producers cramming them into every period production from now on.

    • @mountainfreedom9000
      @mountainfreedom9000 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Latest advert a little white girl gives a black boy cinema ticket, it's wanting for white girls to hate white boys from a young age. Bring on the revolution

  • @lewisblight-bp1dt
    @lewisblight-bp1dt 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +77

    So, they've simply got every existing illustration showing black people, from anywhere.

    • @HistoryDebunkedsimonwebb
      @HistoryDebunkedsimonwebb  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

      Correct!

    • @thomasrobert4654
      @thomasrobert4654 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@HistoryDebunkedsimonwebb do you know that miranda kaufman was jewish?.

    • @secondchance6603
      @secondchance6603 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      Black Tudors: "An unexciting truth may be eclipsed by a thrilling lie." - Aldous Huxley

    • @SMITHSONIAN33
      @SMITHSONIAN33 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@HistoryDebunkedsimonwebb You are not an historian or do you have access to private libraries, you are a secind eat writer of Westerns, ICONOCLAST , OLIVER CROMWELL HELLO ;))

    • @blueroseleroy
      @blueroseleroy 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SMITHSONIAN33 Still drivelling, harey ?

  • @alexbowman7582
    @alexbowman7582 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +55

    It’s cultural destruction.

    • @Yazz2014
      @Yazz2014 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It’s been the agenda since 1945

    • @sentinal2343
      @sentinal2343 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yep! how does it feel to be on the receiving end?

  • @sarcasmunlimited1570
    @sarcasmunlimited1570 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +61

    There was the Black Death in medieval England, if that counts for anything.

    • @chuckh5999
      @chuckh5999 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      rats and fleas. Appropriate name for that incident!

    • @Jaymark-gk4li
      @Jaymark-gk4li 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      😅😂

    • @JAC4000
      @JAC4000 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And they did dna tests and found they were black

    • @LadyThunderbird63
      @LadyThunderbird63 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      According to an article from the BBC the medieval plague disproportionately affected black women , a bit like the claim that was made for covid .

    • @sarcasmunlimited1570
      @sarcasmunlimited1570 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @LadyThunderbird63
      Africa wasn't explored yet by Europeans during the time of the plagues, so the BBC would have had to get that story from the Arabs. But I doubt the Arabs conducted statistical studies of diseases by demographic differentiation. So the BBC made up that Cock and Bull story.
      And about Covid, it's possible that black women were affected disproportionately because they are also disproportionately very overweight, at least in the US.

  • @TomSherwood-z5l
    @TomSherwood-z5l 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +46

    LIkely they were illustrated because at the time they were a tremendous and probably unique oddity. Sort of like elephants in Europe, hardly common and not native but illustrated out of novelty if one came over.

    • @_FML_
      @_FML_ 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      Exactly...Something completely different from what they were used to seeing...

  • @laurasands8322
    @laurasands8322 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

    It's all shoehorned into everything now, any remakes or reboots of any classic BBC dramas will be a laugh , i remember when the only black actors you saw were on the crime watch uk reconstructions.

    • @thomasrobert4654
      @thomasrobert4654 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      not anymore.

    • @keithrose6931
      @keithrose6931 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      I spend more and more of my time watching pre-woke films and telly . If it wasn't for them I wouldn't be watching anything !

  • @littlebaby5656
    @littlebaby5656 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    There will always be wannabe writers/grifters, it's up to the editors and publishers to reject the pernicious rewriting of our history. These publishing houses owt to be ashamed of themselves and must be exposed.

    • @thomasrobert4654
      @thomasrobert4654 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      and where are the historians outraged at the nonsense being taught to our children in their schools.

  • @CD-pm9kc
    @CD-pm9kc 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Similar trend of if someone visits the UK it means they're 'British', it's so bizarre.

  • @jamestuck6764
    @jamestuck6764 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +50

    I am wondering if the author actually knew that many of the examples she included in her book were either not black or not existent in Tudor times or whether she deluded herself to the extent she thought they were good examples of black Tudors? Neither option is desirable.

    • @HistoryDebunkedsimonwebb
      @HistoryDebunkedsimonwebb  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      The book is based on her doctoral thesis, which went up to 1640. Using 'Tudors' in the title was a bit more catchy.

    • @candy-le4nh
      @candy-le4nh 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​Almost as ridiculous as having a YT channel which claims to debunk historical claims but spends the vast majority of its time crying about modernity and rehashing articles on the same topic from the 'MSM'!
      LOL​@@HistoryDebunkedsimonwebb

    • @georgehetty7857
      @georgehetty7857 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Or someone with multiple aliases to make silly comments on UTube?🤡

    • @canuck3169
      @canuck3169 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      She was trying to get a word count for a book, not a pamphlet 😏

    • @jamestuck6764
      @jamestuck6764 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@georgehetty7857 ?

  • @violinstar5948
    @violinstar5948 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +88

    They need to write a new book called black fiction. Chapters could include
    1. Mary Seecole. 2. Anne Boleyn etc…

    • @AB-C1
      @AB-C1 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Diane Abbot 😂

    • @chuckh5999
      @chuckh5999 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      spare the words and fill with pic's and sketches.

    • @peterwillson1355
      @peterwillson1355 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@violinstar5948 Michael Jackson has to be there. Black Frankenstein

  • @david-hf3dk
    @david-hf3dk 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    I never saw a coloured person (singular) until the late seventies when I was in secondary school and he was an arab so I would lay a £100k on the fact if I had been around in tudor times I never would have never seen one.

  • @smogthehorse9409
    @smogthehorse9409 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Myth really sums it up.

  • @charliegirl3056
    @charliegirl3056 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    If Henry Vlll referred to Anne of Cleves as a Flanders mare, I can't imagine what he would have called one of them

  • @clivemcquire7686
    @clivemcquire7686 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Don’t know about black Tudor, I went to a London overspill comprehensive school, where out of 1750 pupils only one was black.
    And that was the early 70’s.

  • @omgitsabloodyandroid5161
    @omgitsabloodyandroid5161 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Remember, if they keep saying it then eventually it will be believed.

  • @panderjitsinghvv8199
    @panderjitsinghvv8199 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +51

    Strange to experience a slow but discernible cultural genocide from the inside.

    • @_FML_
      @_FML_ 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Finally...This won't stop until we collectively call it out for what it very obviously is...

    • @SpectreAtTheFeast-sx8gq
      @SpectreAtTheFeast-sx8gq 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's your racist brain cancer, eating away at you.

    • @thomasrobert4654
      @thomasrobert4654 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      experience it but so far not fight it.

    • @SpectreAtTheFeast-sx8gq
      @SpectreAtTheFeast-sx8gq 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@thomasrobert4654 No cure has been found for racist brain cancer.

    • @thomasrobert4654
      @thomasrobert4654 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SpectreAtTheFeast-sx8gq why try and cure it?,the far right are europes future, the other options you have are islam or globalist communist.

  • @maxineblick451
    @maxineblick451 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Poor English people. They don’t seem to be able to speak out
    about this nonsense.

    • @ericpode6095
      @ericpode6095 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Try and you're locked up for "hate crime"

    • @maxineblick451
      @maxineblick451 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @ what about your historian’s, are they frightened to speak
      up as well? Or are they in on it .

    • @pontdain
      @pontdain 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@maxineblick451 They're terrified that if they tell the truth their careers will end.

    • @solatiumz
      @solatiumz 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@maxineblick451 yes

  • @stephenogden5470
    @stephenogden5470 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    But Simon it must be true because I have seen loads of black people in the BBC drama , Wolf Hall!

  • @patricka.crawley6572
    @patricka.crawley6572 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +80

    The real history of Africa (pre-European exploration) would be too ghastly and horrific to show.

    • @JP-lk2qs
      @JP-lk2qs 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      cannibalism witchcraft

    • @patricka.crawley6572
      @patricka.crawley6572 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      @JP-lk2qs
      It's more about what they didn't have....like 'everything'.

    • @stephenpmurphy591
      @stephenpmurphy591 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Modern sub Saharan African nations are still practicing witchcraft healing using human organs.
      Albino African's organs are highly prized by witch doctors for various types of spells.
      Many diseases are still believed too be caused by cruses or bad spirits and a witch doctor must be consulted for a cure.

    • @roylennie8117
      @roylennie8117 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@patricka.crawley6572 . . . except a bone through the nose.

    • @roringusanda2837
      @roringusanda2837 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      😅and hilarious!

  • @lawriecairns
    @lawriecairns 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +139

    The problem is, they'll start to believe all this nonsense, especially the young. That's the end game, it seems...

    • @ghengiscant538
      @ghengiscant538 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      That`s certainly the intention, concerning the young . It`s taught in school .

    • @soma4u289
      @soma4u289 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      And that is the major problem for a honest caring society.A future built on lies cannot prosper.

    • @Randomnationalist136
      @Randomnationalist136 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      I can confirm, most kids in my school belive all sort of nonsense even though they know almost nothing.

    • @Vibez369
      @Vibez369 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Having family members that work in "Education" I can confirm that their hands are tied and can't wait to get early retirement.

    • @FTTLOMS
      @FTTLOMS 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Then we need more channels like this one "History Debunked". Join the fight.

  • @Bob-tq2jv
    @Bob-tq2jv 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    Ann Boleyn was a black lady. I saw it on TV

    • @neddyseagoon9601
      @neddyseagoon9601 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I saw her sizta, Cleopatra and they're both ancestors of Whoopie Goldberg... 😂

    • @JamesQuirk-x1r
      @JamesQuirk-x1r 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They were all black lol 😂

    • @seanpower1383
      @seanpower1383 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Must be true then 😅😂😅

    • @JamesQuirk-x1r
      @JamesQuirk-x1r 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Bob-tq2jv Don't be joking around lol 😂

  • @stevenedwards2162
    @stevenedwards2162 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    I saw a cartoon advertisement on TV last night, with a father Christmas of colour with a black beard.

    • @LenaK-i8r
      @LenaK-i8r 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Don't they do their own kwanza or something like that?

    • @roringusanda2837
      @roringusanda2837 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@LenaK-i8r😅 LMAO, read up on the history of the guy who made up Kwanzaa, it's wild!

    • @Occident.
      @Occident. 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@LenaK-i8rAnother invention.

    • @petersullivan3012
      @petersullivan3012 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I've been waiting for the first black Father Christmas, I knew it was coming. Woka Cola back in the 1930s changed his outfit from green to red through the power of advertising, so I guess in another few years Santa will indeed turn black.

    • @AnnLiOz
      @AnnLiOz 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      My sister bought charity cards just recently which were for comic relief, and to her shock when she opened the pack one half were white Father Christmas and the other illustrated black Father Christmas....She chucked them away. Needless to say, only the white Father Christmas was on top.She had bought them for our mum, who was really upset by them.Plus, there was no Merry Christmas inside.

  • @clivebaxter6354
    @clivebaxter6354 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +111

    Wolf Hall 2, blatant diversity propaganda.

    • @Occident.
      @Occident. 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      ....by the usual suspects.

    • @elric6084
      @elric6084 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      I stopped watching at the third episode when it became obvious to me that the blatant diversity propaganda was increasingly overshadowing the superb acting performances of the main characters. I can't wait for the re-make of the film Zulu, thinking that the opposite might occur - but it won't as it would not fit the narrative.

    • @jpldriver
      @jpldriver 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@elric6084A couple of black actors never overshadowed the excellent acting.If you didn't watch the further episodes than you have missed out.
      Don't be so sensitive and get a life,and embrace this superb production.

  • @user-yh8gx9ng4u
    @user-yh8gx9ng4u 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +84

    7 black characters spotted in the last 10 minutes of Wolf Hall. Last character to speak to Cromwell was a black man
    Humiliated yet?

    • @LOCATION_REDACTED
      @LOCATION_REDACTED 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

      Thanks for letting me know not to watch it.

    • @leechilds3725
      @leechilds3725 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      Did he mug him 😃

    • @rewdwarf123
      @rewdwarf123 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@LOCATION_REDACTED I watched the first series but I wasn't going to watch the second.

    • @t.gilligan9661
      @t.gilligan9661 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      Humiliated, no. Embarrassed, yes.

    • @AndrewWilliams-ry6tb
      @AndrewWilliams-ry6tb 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I don't watch much telly these days, but you know DEI hiring in overdrive, signals the end. I believe the same thing happened with Peaky Blinders.

  • @seandelap8587
    @seandelap8587 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +138

    They're such blatant liars they make me sick

    • @peterlangbridge4628
      @peterlangbridge4628 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ffs get a grip of yourself.

    • @Vile_Entity_3545
      @Vile_Entity_3545 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      Tell the same lie enough and it becomes the truth. In 50 years time there will be nobody around to tell the truth. I will be long gone then and gladly so.

    • @RonP1.2
      @RonP1.2 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      I've said this 6 million times before

    • @MarkJones-ji8fd
      @MarkJones-ji8fd 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Miranda Kaufman - not black but wears a funny hat

    • @JangianTV
      @JangianTV 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@RonP1.2Interesting number! 😅

  • @georgehetty7857
    @georgehetty7857 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    Mr.Webb, Wolf Hall even managed to incorporate a mixed colour family into the Tudor
    aristocracy, Lord Seymour had at least one black sister who married Cromwell’s son😃

    • @HistoryDebunkedsimonwebb
      @HistoryDebunkedsimonwebb  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      Yes, I heard about that!

    • @georgehetty7857
      @georgehetty7857 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      I’ve watched it so you don’t have to 🤭👍

    • @RuthFreeman-b6p
      @RuthFreeman-b6p 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@georgehetty7857Thanks, I appreciate that!

    • @TruthTellert63
      @TruthTellert63 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@georgehetty7857 Brave of you. I'll do the next best thing & watch the contents of my toilet as I flush.

    • @danbaumann8273
      @danbaumann8273 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Jeezus Christ, that's just retarded... Smfh.

  • @sonnyirish3678
    @sonnyirish3678 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +38

    I saw the 1970 film Cromwell with Richard Harris and a full cast of excellent British actors.In 1970 Britain was still a sane country.

    • @TG-oo9se
      @TG-oo9se 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I bet most of the actors were dews

    • @Occident.
      @Occident. 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      "Man for all seasons" is much better.

    • @sonnyirish3678
      @sonnyirish3678 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@TG-oo9se No they were all Britons of a Christian background.

    • @sonnyirish3678
      @sonnyirish3678 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@Occident. That film is unbeatable.

    • @keithrose6931
      @keithrose6931 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@TG-oo9se and ?

  • @austenj4539
    @austenj4539 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +83

    I do wish that the DEI fanatics would link the 'Black Plague' to those they support.

    • @stephenpmurphy591
      @stephenpmurphy591 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      White upper middle class progressive labour women have spawned this abomination..

    • @vicgallimore6756
      @vicgallimore6756 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      THAT PLAGUE IS RAGEING RIGHT NOW.

    • @markdaniels2200
      @markdaniels2200 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@vicgallimore6756😂👍

    • @ellismarsalis6064
      @ellismarsalis6064 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You know Miranda Kaufman was a white woman and the Book was 8 years ago so I’m not sure what is has to do with DEI but hey the world is filled with nonsense and if we can just blame black people for some of that nonsense its a win win!!

    • @LadyThunderbird63
      @LadyThunderbird63 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The BBC did it in an article november 2023 , they claim the medieval plague disproportionately affected black women , they made a similar claim about covid .

  • @disgruntledofsw6221
    @disgruntledofsw6221 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    During the first and second Covid lockdowns I spent a considerable amount of time on guard at the Tower of London. In May 2021, when the Tower reopened to the public I overheard a member of the public ask a Yeoman Warden if Anne Boleyn was a “victim of racism”. I assume that the Channel Five drama had something to do with this…

    • @susanellis1828
      @susanellis1828 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      O M G! Can they really be that ignorant

  • @richiec9077
    @richiec9077 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Perhaps Simon you should make a new book about black people in British history and you can point out the reality of it and how a lot of the misleading claims have been severely debunked.

    • @nevilleconnolly8938
      @nevilleconnolly8938 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Problem is no one would publish it!

    • @richiec9077
      @richiec9077 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@nevilleconnolly8938that's a shame because people would buy it

    • @reasonablespeculation3893
      @reasonablespeculation3893 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      or sell it

    • @mauricemuir7316
      @mauricemuir7316 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@nevilleconnolly8938no one will read it like the rest of webb's books. 😮

    • @blueroseleroy
      @blueroseleroy 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mauricemuir7316 Still making the pages of your favourite work of fiction very sticky Mo ?🤣

  • @sonnyirish3678
    @sonnyirish3678 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

    Every single time.
    Miranda Kaufmann was born in 1982 in a Jewish family in London, about which she has said: "I think it gave me an international outlook and curiosity about other people and cultures. It was also a hugely intellectually stimulating place to grow up. I benefited from all the museums, galleries and theatres; and just walking down a London street is often a history lesson in itself.[2] She read history at Christ Church, Oxford, becoming interested in Black history as a research topic during her final undergraduate year,[2] and going on to complete in 2011 her doctoral thesis entitled "Africans in Britain, 1500-1640".[3][4]

    • @thomasrobert4654
      @thomasrobert4654 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      oxbridge famous for turning out the very best traitors and sexual deviants.

    • @TG-oo9se
      @TG-oo9se 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      💯

    • @t.gilligan9661
      @t.gilligan9661 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Fantasy Island could be the title of her "doctoral thesis"?

    • @RonP1.2
      @RonP1.2 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      As Arnold Leese would say, the shameless barefaced effrontery of the 🤐working for his own ends

    • @Fanakapan222
      @Fanakapan222 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Seems with a name like Jones, the mother not ? It would therefore suggest that Miranda has identified a supposed family background, and pushing the ideas in her book as a fruitful source of income ?

  • @bushwhackeddos.2703
    @bushwhackeddos.2703 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +230

    Last night a Tudor stole my bike and a DJ saved my life.

    • @JohnJohnson-vd2hp
      @JohnJohnson-vd2hp 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I seen a Tudor go arse over tit on a deliveroo bike yesterday , served him right he was dressed all in black with no lights !

    • @bushwhackeddos.2703
      @bushwhackeddos.2703 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@JohnJohnson-vd2hp
      Lol
      A Tudoroo

    • @rewdwarf123
      @rewdwarf123 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      @The-4th-Mann You obviously don't, as they were expelled from England in 1290 and didn't return until 1655.

    • @guruprasadf07
      @guruprasadf07 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😊

    • @bvs1q
      @bvs1q 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I tossed and turned in my hovel that night, woke up next morning Tudor stole my bike, Different day same king ain't nothing good in England, I'd walk away from these Welsh if I could..

  • @Makotonine
    @Makotonine 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    I barely managed 2 episodes of Woke Hall

    • @thomasrobert4654
      @thomasrobert4654 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      this is the acting professions problem,people are turning off.

  • @manoo422
    @manoo422 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

    In that period anyone with darker skin the British white was called black i.e Spaniards...

    • @Templeborough
      @Templeborough 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Good point. The Black Boy inn in Nottingham, named after Charles II.

  • @ddoherty5956
    @ddoherty5956 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +58

    Imagine feeling so guilty about the mass invasion of a land that you need to rewrite that countries history to ease your conscience.

    • @_FML_
      @_FML_ 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Is it guilt or ego?

    • @Joedirt3349
      @Joedirt3349 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Welcome to the Britain of the last 40 years

    • @Joedirt3349
      @Joedirt3349 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@_FML_from my pov 60 per cent ego and 40 per cent guilt

    • @rewdwarf123
      @rewdwarf123 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Those who control the past control the present...

    • @orangejulius8366
      @orangejulius8366 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Conscience?

  • @orvillefindley8117
    @orvillefindley8117 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +70

    You can't fool me , I know Henry Vlll was a black man. His real name was Winston Henry 👍😂

    • @robertbrown3413
      @robertbrown3413 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      He came before Henry 7th.

    • @rokitron65
      @rokitron65 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@robertbrown3413Lamification

    • @thomasrobert4654
      @thomasrobert4654 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@robertbrown3413 a lammy listing.

    • @Concerned-Nihilist
      @Concerned-Nihilist 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Went by 8-ball on the streets.

    • @thetruth45678
      @thetruth45678 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      'Enry, bruv.

  • @robertguildford
    @robertguildford 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    It's like the false narrative Africans discovered America before the Europeans. That they also established historical trade links with the native Indians.

  • @babylonsburning1
    @babylonsburning1 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

    The author says it all, Miranda Kaufmann.

    • @mjm0787
      @mjm0787 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Obvious inference immediately confirmed by Wiki search.

    • @jagdpanther6327
      @jagdpanther6327 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      RSP

    • @Edith-t4j
      @Edith-t4j 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Is she related to Miranda Blair by any chance,

  • @carolramsey6287
    @carolramsey6287 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +106

    There are many such myths. For example some people believe that this is a free country and a democracy.

    • @theodavies8754
      @theodavies8754 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Or there is merit in being poor and honesty pays.
      As the vicar said to the landlord, "you keep them poor and I'll keep them stupid ".

    • @thomasrobert4654
      @thomasrobert4654 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      well said you are learning how about your menfolk are they?.

    • @garypautard1069
      @garypautard1069 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Some people believe Jamaicans came here to help us re-build England after WW2 . Some people believe Mary Seacole inspired the NHS.

    • @thetruth45678
      @thetruth45678 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I believe in fairies.

    • @thomasrobert4654
      @thomasrobert4654 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@daps9436 shooting the messenger wont help you anymore than voting and peaceful protest will.

  • @chieftandriver703
    @chieftandriver703 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I assume handbag thefts were off the scale in Tudor times

  • @tarquinlucius7094
    @tarquinlucius7094 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Perhaps sadiq khan can re name a railway line after them...

  • @5150show
    @5150show 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I saw this on a documentary about the national portrait gallery , and they were so proud of this black Tudor

  • @n2n8sda
    @n2n8sda 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    For anybody who may be wondering, Miranda Kaufmann was born in 1982 in a Jewish family in London. How many times does a coincidence have to happen before it's a pattern.

  • @BoroBootBoy
    @BoroBootBoy 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    These 'books' need to be re-categorized into the 'Fiction' section.

  • @petermedcalf1191
    @petermedcalf1191 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I've been watching Wolf Hall recently. Every scene has to have at least one or more black person. Even among the aristocrats.
    This faking of English history spoils an otherwise well researched and produced series. Complain about it and one is called a racist.

  • @alunevans380
    @alunevans380 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    You'd think the author of this book who is Jewish would be more concerned with writing about any of the handful of Jews who might have lived in Britain during the Tudor period, rather than focusing and obsessing over the 1 or 2 Black African people who lived in Britain at this time.

    • @JP-lk2qs
      @JP-lk2qs 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Jews are discreet

    • @Occident.
      @Occident. 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      They had been booted out in 1190. Didn't get back till that A hole Cromwell let them back in.

    • @blueroseleroy
      @blueroseleroy 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Occident. Oh dear, bit of a Royalist are you ?

    • @Occident.
      @Occident. 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Most definitely not. ​@@blueroseleroy

    • @alunevans380
      @alunevans380 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Occident. Yes Edward the 1st, kicked them out of Britain but it was William the Conquerer who invited the first ever Jews to set foot in Britain over from France in 1070 probably just a small amount of people to help fund his building projects.
      The Edict of Expulsion was a royal decree expelling all Jews from the Kingdom of England that was issued by Edward I on 18 July 1290; it was the first time a European state is known to have permanently banned their presence.
      The date of issuance was most likely chosen because it was a Jewish holy day, the ninth of Ab, which commemorates the destruction of Jerusalem and other disasters the Jewish people have experienced. Edward told the sheriffs of all counties he wanted all Jews expelled before All Saints' Day (1 November) that year.
      The idea that England was unique in part because it was free of Jews appears to have developed, feeding into an idea that English identity excluded Jewishness: "between 1290 and 1656 the English came to see their country defined in part by the fact that Jews had been banished from it.

  • @thecatthinks
    @thecatthinks 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +93

    I'm a white guy living in Birmingham, Alabama. That makes me a minority.
    Birmingham has one of the highest per capita murder rates in the US.
    My black neighbors are just as sick of the violence as I am.

    • @samdoe3021
      @samdoe3021 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      But Birmingham, alabama was named after Birmingham, England in the Midlands.

    • @tryhugging212
      @tryhugging212 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      Birmingham UK is dire too.

    • @roringusanda2837
      @roringusanda2837 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      If they're so sick of it why do they keep doing it?

    • @vespasianflavius2766
      @vespasianflavius2766 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@roringusanda2837 yeah exactly or even admitting that it's a problem in the demographic

    • @sanchoodell6789
      @sanchoodell6789 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      In Birmingham they love the Gov'nah! Boo hoo hoo!.

  • @Leofwine.
    @Leofwine. 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    There is a book for sale on this ‘subject’ at the Leeds Royal Armory. The surname of the author came as no surprise.

  • @PauloZunguze
    @PauloZunguze 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    More historical revisionism

    • @david1964.
      @david1964. 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Tudor Qatar!!!

  • @rogershore3128
    @rogershore3128 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Well said Simon and publishers peddle this crap and think it’s great.

    • @Occident.
      @Occident. 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Certain publishers.

  • @JamesSmith-qs4hx
    @JamesSmith-qs4hx 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +78

    The black Tudors were masters of stealth, they left not a single mark on the areas where they dwelled. I hear the Ninja took inspiration from them in both garb and invisibility.😅

    • @Richard-r1x7d
      @Richard-r1x7d 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      I think you’re on to something here

    • @thomasrobert4654
      @thomasrobert4654 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      our local rag does an "as we were" article once a week and yes you've guessed it not a black or brown face in sight and definitely no walking black bin liners either. its not going to last though for today they are advertising for community journalists who are diverse driven individuals, its so ironic we have a local rag, a police service councillors and politicians who are all telling us how safe our wonderful city is and yet almost every front page of our local rag 5 days a week features more and more horrendous crimes committed mainly by the usual suspects.

  • @ddoherty5956
    @ddoherty5956 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    It could be true, a lot of people were getting stabbed in the Tudor period...

  • @jimmycampbell78
    @jimmycampbell78 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +87

    I grew up in rural Lincolnshire. The first time I ever saw a black person in the flesh was on a visit to London circa 1990. I had only seen black people on the TV before then- black Americans in Hollywood films and West Indians playing cricket.

    • @candy-le4nh
      @candy-le4nh 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      And ?
      LOL

    • @leetlbt
      @leetlbt 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They need to teach these lies in one day the British working classes say what fuckbhas went on with multiculturalism they can turn round and say they all been here lol.

    • @araptorofnote5938
      @araptorofnote5938 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I grew up in Greater London and I can remember seeing 'Amos & Andy' on a one chanel TV in the mid fifties and a door to door brush salesman wearing a pink turban in the early sixties.

    • @loqueestamal3465
      @loqueestamal3465 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Not Tudor.

    • @jammybadger6514
      @jammybadger6514 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@candy-le4nhHey Bob

  • @PauloZunguze
    @PauloZunguze 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    This is a great fairytale

  • @dcasteaux9181
    @dcasteaux9181 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    According to BBC 'Verify' this narrative is not false.

    • @thomasrobert4654
      @thomasrobert4654 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      ah, bbc verify the programme which verifies its own omissions, exaggerations and lies.

  • @nonenone-vt8cg
    @nonenone-vt8cg 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Reminds me of the Harry Enfield sketch; "Probably Quare"

  • @Weesel71
    @Weesel71 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    "When the reality gets in the way of the legend, print the legend." Not an exact quote from The Man Who shot Liberty Valance.

  • @George-y6g
    @George-y6g 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    And none of them actually born in England.

    • @solatiumz
      @solatiumz 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I wouldn't look on Wikipedia if I were you. The amount of people who are listed as English, with only one or no parents of English origin.

  • @martynspooner5822
    @martynspooner5822 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Yay Simon doing what he does so well debunking the fantasy history that they are trying so hard to bring into reality. You cannot change the past, even with all of the lies it cannot be done. .

    • @christinerussell113
      @christinerussell113 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Ah, but lies repeated often enough can become the truth, as with the great Windrush myth. Sadly, generations have grown up who have been fed lies and historical revisionism, and thus know no better.

    • @thomasrobert4654
      @thomasrobert4654 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@christinerussell113 who believes the windrush bollox nobody i know.

    • @christinerussell113
      @christinerussell113 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @thomasrobert4654 Doesn't matter if you, or i, or indeed many ordinary, sensible Brits know that it is rubbish, the establishment have ensured that it has become accepted fact. Hell, saddo Khan has even renamed an overground line after this myth.

    • @thomasrobert4654
      @thomasrobert4654 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@christinerussell113 it cant be accepted fact if most people think its bollox which most do.

    • @christinerussell113
      @christinerussell113 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @thomasrobert4654 Oh dear, what world are you living in? As I said, it matters little as to the likes of you or I knowing this for the lie it is. Those who run the show, control the levers of power, make the rules, i.e., the whole rotten establishment, say it is so, and it becomes reality. Plenty of even the older generation are unaware of the truth about Windrush. The facts have been hidden well. But as for most of the younger generation, schools have been teaching the Windrush myth for decades, and thus our children have been well and truly indoctrinated.

  • @danielburger1775
    @danielburger1775 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    And Black didn't mean sub-Saharan.
    There was a much-used expression "As Black as a Turk". As well as certain people were called "Black Irish". Black just meant swarthy, or Mediterranean looking.
    Original performances of Othello had the title role played by people who looked Arabic.

  • @brucehewson5773
    @brucehewson5773 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    it is a wonder "they" do not claim The Black Prince!

    • @LadyThunderbird63
      @LadyThunderbird63 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The already have , also Ralph de Ashton the Black Knight , they will go after Edmund Blackadder next no doubt.😂

  • @Nickel1147
    @Nickel1147 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I didn't watch Wolf Hall series 2 because it was historically inaccurate. There were no black Tudors. Incidentally there were no white tribal chiefs capturing black people for the slave trade.

  • @douglastobor7718
    @douglastobor7718 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +83

    Black Tudors?! Golly!😳

  • @Vile_Entity_3545
    @Vile_Entity_3545 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +146

    There were plenty of blacks in Tudor times. Just not in this country.

    • @LukeSkywalker522
      @LukeSkywalker522 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No you're wrong , black people lived in UK before white people 😂

    • @colinmartin2921
      @colinmartin2921 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      Yes, I think that there were lots in Africa!

    • @vincentl.9469
      @vincentl.9469 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      😁

    • @BrinJay-s4v
      @BrinJay-s4v 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      particular so elsewhere

    • @petersullivan3012
      @petersullivan3012 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yep, and still living like they did 2000 years earlier.

  • @JamesQuirk-x1r
    @JamesQuirk-x1r 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Wokeness is out control in Britain 😅

  • @jimsmith-d3l
    @jimsmith-d3l 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    exposing the lies, well done

  • @arrangrant4614
    @arrangrant4614 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The BBC stated in one of their documentary’s that there were many black soldiers and sailors on board the Mary Rose when it sank

    • @Occident.
      @Occident. 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      There was not. Wishful thinking.

  • @Zoydian
    @Zoydian 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +95

    This is what happens when you assign a certain demographic an entire month to awe us with their achievements, only to find out that they don't have enough content to fill the first five minutes of the first day of said month.

    • @_FML_
      @_FML_ 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Exactly...The most coddled, spoiled, capitulated and catered to group in existence...

    • @_FML_
      @_FML_ 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      Well damn...I guess I'm not allowed to say that either...🙄 Keep it up YT, you're just proving that *even you* know it's the truth...

    • @josele844
      @josele844 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@_FML_ I feel ya

    • @musthaveacamel2157
      @musthaveacamel2157 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      They invented Bragging to backing tracks

    • @roylennie8117
      @roylennie8117 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@musthaveacamel2157 . . . and banana munching.

  • @sionnach.1374
    @sionnach.1374 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Growing up in Ireland in the 90s sometimes you might see a black nun or priest visiting but practically non existent otherwise

    • @Occident.
      @Occident. 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Do your bit to save Ireland.

  • @shaunpatrick8345
    @shaunpatrick8345 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The book serves only to show that the few people here were well treated.

    • @TruthTellert63
      @TruthTellert63 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Correct. Being treated well is not enough for them, though - dey haz 2 roole.

  • @mrdoggo6094
    @mrdoggo6094 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +91

    When i was a kid ...a black man was in our welsh village , everyone was so amazed , he was like a celebrity

    • @TP-om8of
      @TP-om8of 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      Was he the only gay in the village?

    • @RonP1.2
      @RonP1.2 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

      One's enough

    • @mrdoggo6094
      @mrdoggo6094 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @LordSnobbington-7667 Im not even kidding ...a few days later ...there was the first burglary in the village in 12 years

    • @julianmorris9951
      @julianmorris9951 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      There was one black in my village, he was known as “Jack the black”

    • @colinmartin2921
      @colinmartin2921 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      We had one in London suburb that I grew up in, and children would follow him about because they were so curious.

  • @stevenhorn5106
    @stevenhorn5106 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I have a problem with this. If they only stayed for a few years, it's highly unlikely they had children. No bloodline then, so not Tudor at all. My uncle worked in Johannesburg for 5 yrs, does that make him African, he also worked in Saudi for several yrs. If I want to go looking for this book in a library, would it come under Fiction.

  • @Fazerjon
    @Fazerjon 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    .....at least your video attracted Cadburys black Christmas advert underneath 🤔

  • @DavidJones-tw3ov
    @DavidJones-tw3ov 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The jokes are writing themselves these days.

  • @susanmitchell4744
    @susanmitchell4744 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I know that Elizabeth Seymour; sister of Jane and wife of Gregory Cromwell, was not black.
    Shame on you Wolf Hall.

  • @malcolmpayne8211
    @malcolmpayne8211 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +123

    Wolf Hall was yet another tv drama spoiled by unrealistically shoehorning black characters into it.

    • @R4W88
      @R4W88 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They do not get funding without it, in 20 years time these shows will be called historical. Research Pole pot and year 0.

    • @seanlander9321
      @seanlander9321 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The Great was another dark interpretation of history.

    • @thomasrobert4654
      @thomasrobert4654 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      it must really piss off these great british actors and actresses who brilliantly perform these kind of historical plays when they themselves know that inserted blacks just make their audiences groan and in a lot of cases turn off altogether. brilliant acting throughout wolf hall by the way.

    • @Occident.
      @Occident. 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Boycotts work!

  • @unclerukmer
    @unclerukmer 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I saw that book prominently displayed at a gift shop at the old Royal Naval College in Greenwich.

  • @johngreen6191
    @johngreen6191 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    An African called John. Yeah right.

  • @DaveTex2375
    @DaveTex2375 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This is like a man trying to prove in civil court that he wasn't involved in an accident with another vehicle by showing a dozen pictures of his vehicle to a jury, none of which show a clear shot of the fender that would have been damaged when he pulled out in front of the plaintiff's vehicle. I actually saw this play out, and nobody bought his story. Padding your case with nonsense only convinces those who are willfully ignorant and partial to your cause.

  • @markmewordz6860
    @markmewordz6860 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    The demographic here will be under 5 years of age. I truly applaud your efforts Simon. Alas

  • @deadcatbounce3124
    @deadcatbounce3124 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Artists of the time had no problem portraying someone as black, yet when paintings of the time are surveyed, the S-S Africans are missing. Attempts to claim that S-S Africans built England are of course laughable, but proponents of the idea can't seem to find any art that supports their claim.

  • @Edith-t4j
    @Edith-t4j 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    It still doesn't make the handful of black people indigenous to these isles.

  • @Jezza-m5k
    @Jezza-m5k 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

    Ah, The Black Tudors - Kaufmann... says it all

    • @JangianTV
      @JangianTV 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      👃

    • @thomasrobert4654
      @thomasrobert4654 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      the old fraud simon curiously forgot to mention that.

    • @TG-oo9se
      @TG-oo9se 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@judorJangianTV

    • @mjm0787
      @mjm0787 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      More nasty little Liesensteins.