This is the first video of yours that I have watched, and I instantly subscribed! Every word that you have said on this video is so correct! I am a relative newcomer to lure fishing pike fishing and all I use nowadays is Bait Caster (Multiplier) reels. Yes I still have a couple of fixed spool reels but I haven't used them for as long as I care to remember. (I should ad at this stage that I do not use lures below around 15g) The most important thing to do is to get used to casting with a Bait Caster and as soon as you start getting back lashes then just screw the spool tension knob up just a bit and (if need be) adjust the mag or centrifugal brakes a little. A newcomer WILL get backlashes, they are inevitable, but as soon as you do get one take your time and think about it, and don't just jerk at the line/birds nest as you will only make it worse. As for the difference between the fixed spool and the multiplier reel, I personally find the multiplier (Bait Caster) much easier and quicker to use (I often cast one handed using an underhand cast) as well as being much more accurate for casting with! In my opinion the Bait Caster (Multiplier) reel is THE way to go if you are lure fishing However I realise that some might well disagree with me. Even so well done on the presentation of this video and the great explanations you have given. I look forward to seeing more of your videos mate, and just say it as you see it!
Bait caster is so much more accurate than a spinning set up. Only when you get down to around 1g weights is when a spinning set up is better. It’s more fun to use a bait caster but if your serious about making the most out of your fishing I think people are kidding themself casting 1-2g on baitcaster, it’s not as effective as spinning at those weights distance becomes very small and the drag caused by the reel creates inaccurate casts. I would advise anyone thinking about trying to use 4-8g lures and a rod to match, you will find it amazing once you learn casting into tight holes and up against boats ect becomes a breeze and 100% will catch you extra fish over a spinning set up.
The best way to tune your real is with diffrent grade oil for the bearings it helps to act as a brake thats how we set up are beach caster multys it stops over runs and you use your thumb as a brake at the end of the cast
Nobody ever seems to reply to comments but this video has been so interesting from a starter's point of view, I need to get a half decent baitcaster real and persevere with it.
I thought it was hype. Bought a very nice set up to force myself to invest time into learning a baitcaster. Hated it. At first. Didn’t pick it up for about 2 yrs. Picked up fly fishing during that time. Went back to the bait caster and really figured it out after watching a ton of videos on set up and casting technique. Now I own 5 baitcaster set ups and don’t even touch my spin gear. Once you learn the set up and cast its so much more controllable and accurate. No line twist either
I’ve got aTsoyinoya elf trout 1 - 5 grams , and a Korum phantom bfs , got it in a combo kit , 2 spools pre loaded with braid and fluorocarbon, I prefer the braid which is 8 lb , haven’t had too many tangle , as I’m quite proficient with a baitcaster
I always wanted a little baitcaster set-up after watching John Wilson with one as a kid 30+ years ago. Like you it's largely my winter hobby (skiving at lunch rather than sitting on social media!) so can't really justify the cost when what I have works!
When i first got into it. I must have watched over a hundred videos about casting technique and tuning the baitcaster for different weighted lures and magnetic drag for windy conditions etc etc. I basically learned a lot of the theory and basics before I had a chance to even touch it. First time getting out on the bank with it and starting to make my first few casts was pretty simple. This was some 2-3 years ago and i have still never really had a really bad birds nest to the point where i either had to cut the line or end my trip. I can use the setup perfectly fine but my casts are more often a little sketchy and I have lost lures in trees and bushes with bad casts due to windy conditions or me not having my thumb ready on the spool to feather or stop the lure in mid flight before i lose it. Ive seen some crazy casts where people flick or spin the lure 360 around the rod before releasing and using that energy to cast when in swims where there isnt a lot of room for big over head casts... Thats sort of cast scares me to no end and If i dont think i can get a successful cast. I simply wont cast in that swim. I can make decent casts. I just need to tune by baitcaster for it and use my thumb more. The amount of information on youtube has been great for mitigating the originally very steep learning curve to just _'a learning curve'_ but everyone is different. I fish around a lot of old generation carp anglers and some have fished with multipliers before when sea fishing but they considered them to be much fuss for long term use. So it could also be a generational thing. I would have gotten a BFS setup but I had already picked up an LMAB combo last year before the current BFS craze took off so I'm stuck with what i got for the time being. Its caught me plenty of perch and fairly sizable pike at 18lb. Practise makes perfect.
Too much fuss and distracts from fishing. I much prefer a fixed spool and have never had any problems with them. I fished a multiplier a lot sea angling but really it was because it is a bit of a struggle casting 6-8oz leads on a fixed spool. Much easier with a multiplier. Less blood. Same reason I will sometimes use one pike fishing. Also boat fishing obviously. I never use one for lure fishing as a lot of my lure fishing is done at range and it is tough to cast a light rig on a multiplier. They will cost you so much distance you will struggle to search a large water. The ultimate truth is BFS will not catch you more than you would have caught otherwise so why complicate your fishing?
@@nospoon4799 im not really casting any serious distances. Most of my fishing takes place in the margins or only a few feet out. A BFS setup isnt really meant for casting long distances. It also gives me more control over my casts when it comes and i can cast places where i normally wouldnt with a regular fixed spool setup as that would be fumbling about with grabbing line or trying to flip the bail arm in time to get the lure where i want it to go without getting snagged. You dont need to go out of your way get one or to learn it but I honestly prefer baitcasters over fixed spools. Its just another tool in the box that has some advantages.
@@Rose.Of.Hizaki I just don't fumble with a fixed spool ever. But then I have been using one for forty years. But then I can also cast very very accurately at short range without ever tangling or fumbling. Same with my wife actually who stared fishing a few years ago. Like I said I already own several baitcasters/multipliers. And have used them for decades. I have no problem with the reel. In fact over forty odd years of fishing I have had way more tangles with multiplier reels than fixed spool. Maybe it is my huge hands or maybe good technique, I dunno. Plus I can carry spare spools. I can switch from braid to flouro quickly. Without carrying two rods. I just don't see the upside of these reels for the this style of fishing.
Very good video. However, almost everything covered is just learning ultralight lure fishing, rather than BFS. Solid-tip UL rods, using small drops from rod tip to lure, cast better with low-trajectory flicks and under-arm swings, as you describe. This is not specific to the type of reel, or the line being on top of the rod. The baitcaster reel just means you have to worry about the line coming off the spool much more- balancing the weight you're casting to the brake. With a spinning reel, if you use these same techniques, you get similar casting. I also cast one-handed with a spinning reel, with a finger on the line. A spinning reel allows me to change from casting accurately with
Its definitely worth the rubbish sessions so much easier to use a baitcaster all day long rather than a fixed spool, pratice makes perfect im in the same boat as you are got it down to a fine art and had a year off fishing and now i feel like im starting again lol great video new sub here 👍🎣
Like you I only really use lures during the winter as a change and I too have toyed with getting a baitcaster. However I eventually decided against it and bought a quality (Shimano Sustain) fixed spool instead. We don’t have any canals down here and most of my lure fishing is done on wide rivers and largish lakes so I’m not having to do many tight, awkward casts. I can pretty much do what I need to with a fixed spool but can definitely see the benefits of a baitcaster from your video 👍
Hi mate, im new to your channel, this is the first vid ive watched and currently half way through. Just paused to ask a quick question. 12mins in youre showing a rig, so far if just used jig heads. Not seen a set up like yours where the lead dangles down infront of the lure. Could you explain more? Or do you have a video about them? Cheers! Just subscribed btw 😊
Experienced all the pain and gave up. But then decided to watch a few videos and came across a bass pro demonstration on how, to use, them set them up according to the weight of the lures your using, braking etc etc. Never looked back. Very rarely fet tangled unkess you force, the, cast too hard.
Baitcaster rods is only worth the money if you only go after bass fishing 🎣 me not so much but like the IKE Abu Garcia. For the price one of the best fishing rods you don't even have to adjust the baitcaster all day with the difference between the wait on the baits. Don't like breaded spider line for my pole is not my choice of tea. 😮 I'm from America New Mexico trout fishing is hard to find bass there's only stocker's. 300 miles south I can find it and 5'000 feet lower in alaveshon.
This is the first video of yours that I have watched, and I instantly subscribed! Every word that you have said on this video is so correct! I am a relative newcomer to lure fishing pike fishing and all I use nowadays is Bait Caster (Multiplier) reels. Yes I still have a couple of fixed spool reels but I haven't used them for as long as I care to remember. (I should ad at this stage that I do not use lures below around 15g) The most important thing to do is to get used to casting with a Bait Caster and as soon as you start getting back lashes then just screw the spool tension knob up just a bit and (if need be) adjust the mag or centrifugal brakes a little. A newcomer WILL get backlashes, they are inevitable, but as soon as you do get one take your time and think about it, and don't just jerk at the line/birds nest as you will only make it worse. As for the difference between the fixed spool and the multiplier reel, I personally find the multiplier (Bait Caster) much easier and quicker to use (I often cast one handed using an underhand cast) as well as being much more accurate for casting with! In my opinion the Bait Caster (Multiplier) reel is THE way to go if you are lure fishing However I realise that some might well disagree with me. Even so well done on the presentation of this video and the great explanations you have given. I look forward to seeing more of your videos mate, and just say it as you see it!
Bait caster is so much more accurate than a spinning set up. Only when you get down to around 1g weights is when a spinning set up is better. It’s more fun to use a bait caster but if your serious about making the most out of your fishing I think people are kidding themself casting 1-2g on baitcaster, it’s not as effective as spinning at those weights distance becomes very small and the drag caused by the reel creates inaccurate casts. I would advise anyone thinking about trying to use 4-8g lures and a rod to match, you will find it amazing once you learn casting into tight holes and up against boats ect becomes a breeze and 100% will catch you extra fish over a spinning set up.
Great review. Got the same set up and about to give it a go this winter.
A korum bait spike tool is great for dealing with backlash's.
Excellent video. Full of great advice and calmly and intelligently presented.
The best way to tune your real is with diffrent grade oil for the bearings it helps to act as a brake thats how we set up are beach caster multys it stops over runs and you use your thumb as a brake at the end of the cast
Nobody ever seems to reply to comments but this video has been so interesting from a starter's point of view, I need to get a half decent baitcaster real and persevere with it.
if you are a beginner start with a fixed spool. Much easier.
I set my drag on the light side, and I modulate with my thumb on the spool if I need to control the fish.
I thought it was hype. Bought a very nice set up to force myself to invest time into learning a baitcaster. Hated it. At first. Didn’t pick it up for about 2 yrs. Picked up fly fishing during that time. Went back to the bait caster and really figured it out after watching a ton of videos on set up and casting technique. Now I own 5 baitcaster set ups and don’t even touch my spin gear. Once you learn the set up and cast its so much more controllable and accurate. No line twist either
Half the range though. I never get line twist with fixed spools and braid.
omg this vid was so helpful 10\10 👍
I’ve got aTsoyinoya elf trout 1 - 5 grams , and a Korum phantom bfs , got it in a combo kit , 2 spools pre loaded with braid and fluorocarbon, I prefer the braid which is 8 lb , haven’t had too many tangle , as I’m quite proficient with a baitcaster
I always wanted a little baitcaster set-up after watching John Wilson with one as a kid 30+ years ago. Like you it's largely my winter hobby (skiving at lunch rather than sitting on social media!) so can't really justify the cost when what I have works!
I was lucky with the reel. Its made me want to get out 🤣 and been a welcome distraction since the river has been bollocksed
Its a like a Russian roulette. Its fun, exciting, but when it hits... boom! My advice take a spare/secondary reel and rod set.
When i first got into it. I must have watched over a hundred videos about casting technique and tuning the baitcaster for different weighted lures and magnetic drag for windy conditions etc etc. I basically learned a lot of the theory and basics before I had a chance to even touch it. First time getting out on the bank with it and starting to make my first few casts was pretty simple.
This was some 2-3 years ago and i have still never really had a really bad birds nest to the point where i either had to cut the line or end my trip. I can use the setup perfectly fine but my casts are more often a little sketchy and I have lost lures in trees and bushes with bad casts due to windy conditions or me not having my thumb ready on the spool to feather or stop the lure in mid flight before i lose it.
Ive seen some crazy casts where people flick or spin the lure 360 around the rod before releasing and using that energy to cast when in swims where there isnt a lot of room for big over head casts... Thats sort of cast scares me to no end and If i dont think i can get a successful cast. I simply wont cast in that swim.
I can make decent casts. I just need to tune by baitcaster for it and use my thumb more.
The amount of information on youtube has been great for mitigating the originally very steep learning curve to just _'a learning curve'_ but everyone is different. I fish around a lot of old generation carp anglers and some have fished with multipliers before when sea fishing but they considered them to be much fuss for long term use. So it could also be a generational thing.
I would have gotten a BFS setup but I had already picked up an LMAB combo last year before the current BFS craze took off so I'm stuck with what i got for the time being. Its caught me plenty of perch and fairly sizable pike at 18lb.
Practise makes perfect.
Too much fuss and distracts from fishing. I much prefer a fixed spool and have never had any problems with them. I fished a multiplier a lot sea angling but really it was because it is a bit of a struggle casting 6-8oz leads on a fixed spool. Much easier with a multiplier. Less blood. Same reason I will sometimes use one pike fishing. Also boat fishing obviously. I never use one for lure fishing as a lot of my lure fishing is done at range and it is tough to cast a light rig on a multiplier. They will cost you so much distance you will struggle to search a large water. The ultimate truth is BFS will not catch you more than you would have caught otherwise so why complicate your fishing?
@@nospoon4799 im not really casting any serious distances. Most of my fishing takes place in the margins or only a few feet out. A BFS setup isnt really meant for casting long distances. It also gives me more control over my casts when it comes and i can cast places where i normally wouldnt with a regular fixed spool setup as that would be fumbling about with grabbing line or trying to flip the bail arm in time to get the lure where i want it to go without getting snagged.
You dont need to go out of your way get one or to learn it but I honestly prefer baitcasters over fixed spools.
Its just another tool in the box that has some advantages.
@@Rose.Of.Hizaki I just don't fumble with a fixed spool ever. But then I have been using one for forty years. But then I can also cast very very accurately at short range without ever tangling or fumbling. Same with my wife actually who stared fishing a few years ago. Like I said I already own several baitcasters/multipliers. And have used them for decades. I have no problem with the reel. In fact over forty odd years of fishing I have had way more tangles with multiplier reels than fixed spool. Maybe it is my huge hands or maybe good technique, I dunno. Plus I can carry spare spools. I can switch from braid to flouro quickly. Without carrying two rods. I just don't see the upside of these reels for the this style of fishing.
Very good video. However, almost everything covered is just learning ultralight lure fishing, rather than BFS. Solid-tip UL rods, using small drops from rod tip to lure, cast better with low-trajectory flicks and under-arm swings, as you describe. This is not specific to the type of reel, or the line being on top of the rod. The baitcaster reel just means you have to worry about the line coming off the spool much more- balancing the weight you're casting to the brake. With a spinning reel, if you use these same techniques, you get similar casting. I also cast one-handed with a spinning reel, with a finger on the line. A spinning reel allows me to change from casting accurately with
Its definitely worth the rubbish sessions so much easier to use a baitcaster all day long rather than a fixed spool, pratice makes perfect im in the same boat as you are got it down to a fine art and had a year off fishing and now i feel like im starting again lol great video new sub here 👍🎣
Just wondering what you do about pike do you use thick leader line ?
Like you I only really use lures during the winter as a change and I too have toyed with getting a baitcaster. However I eventually decided against it and bought a quality (Shimano Sustain) fixed spool instead. We don’t have any canals down here and most of my lure fishing is done on wide rivers and largish lakes so I’m not having to do many tight, awkward casts. I can pretty much do what I need to with a fixed spool but can definitely see the benefits of a baitcaster from your video 👍
10 dollar micro scale ion the tackle box makes it easy to make sure lures are in the right range for the rod.
After second tangle I’d have smashed it around a tree but obviously I don’t have the skill or patience that you have. Top film again joe 👏👏
I had a session last time out and everything was just so good! Made the effort worth it 🤣
The Tsurinoya Dark Wolf is an £85 reel new.....you deffo got a bargain.
I know it was like new too
Hi ! What line are you using on the reel please (the pink one)?
Hi mate, im new to your channel, this is the first vid ive watched and currently half way through. Just paused to ask a quick question. 12mins in youre showing a rig, so far if just used jig heads. Not seen a set up like yours where the lead dangles down infront of the lure. Could you explain more? Or do you have a video about them? Cheers! Just subscribed btw 😊
Welcome to the "Poison "Joe
Experienced all the pain and gave up. But then decided to watch a few videos and came across a bass pro demonstration on how, to use, them set them up according to the weight of the lures your using, braking etc etc. Never looked back. Very rarely fet tangled unkess you force, the, cast too hard.
That's what I've found the hard way. Smooth controlled casting makes for some amazing fishing
What about for sea rishing
Did you put a mono backing on pal?
No backing, tie the braid direct to the spool and you only want 30-50m loaded.
was that the jika rig?
Looks like a free rig, which is similar but with the weight freely sliding on the line.
Baitcaster rods is only worth the money if you only go after bass fishing 🎣 me not so much but like the IKE Abu Garcia. For the price one of the best fishing rods you don't even have to adjust the baitcaster all day with the difference between the wait on the baits. Don't like breaded spider line for my pole is not my choice of tea. 😮 I'm from America New Mexico trout fishing is hard to find bass there's only stocker's. 300 miles south I can find it and 5'000 feet lower in alaveshon.
No pain it's just a reel learn to use it simple 😮
Once you enter the rabbit hole that’s BFS there’s no escaping hurts your wallet and time bet it takes over match fishing for you
Once you get into BFS you'll never use an open faced reel for lure fishing again