Lifting Your Toyota will Void the Warranty
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- My 2022 Tundra is leaking oil with just 6k miles and Toyota won’t fix it.
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My dealer told me I could lift my Tacoma and 4runner up to 3 inches without voiding the warranty. Also was told that you can make modifications and warranty would be good unless they show that said modification caused the issue. Was also told it only concerned the affected parts not the whole warranty. I would do some more digging. Sounds like your dealership is up to some shenanigans.
100% agree. I was told the same thing
I was told the same thing with my tundra until the cv axle boot came loose and then they said that usually they don't fix them since I had a leveling kit.
I just called after watching this and got a new 22 4runner 2 weeks ago and was told the same thing.
Here is Northern Nevada, people lift their Toyota trucks right away. The service department enjoys seeing them and people like showing them off. It’s something that they would have to prove the lift caused to void the warranty.
@@scottvamp All they have to do is show a change from stock to void the warranty.
Yeah, Magnuson Moss warranty act seems to contradict that. They need to prove that the modification was the cause of the failure and then it's not covered. Otherwise, they would need to honor the warranty.
So, what, he is just gunna walk in and tell them that and they are gunna say, "oh, you're right, we'll fix it".
Doubt it. My guess is the cost of the lawyer and going to court to force them into it is more expensive then just paying for the fix.
Toyota would be on the hook for your lawyer fees if you were to win.
@@Jay-me7gw They assume most people are ill-informed or unaware about their rights. I've dealt with this issue several times where dealerships tell people if an insurance company puts an aftermarket part on a car it voids the warranty. Sometimes all it does take is someone just stating they can't do that and provide the information as to why for it to get resolved.
@@bbrickner2 But Toyota also has a very solid case in this instance that the 2" leveling spacer could cause the damage. You're now asking the suspension and shafts to deal with 2" of extra droop. Never mind that he is also trying to turn 70 lb Geolandars.
This isnt just someone installing an intake or catback exhaust that didnt do anything to add any power.
Seems like a losing battle to me.
Instead, you could just get the TRD lift kit that comes with new shafts, knuckles, tie rods, upper control arms, shocks, springs etc etc etc, and do it right.
@@Alex-pe4rj If you were to win. All toyota has to do is say that a 2" leveling spacer puts the suspension outside of its normal travel range(since it now pushes the shock down) and led to the damage.
The problem with a 2" spacer lift is that it does change the drive shaft angle and puts more strain on the CV joints. Most bigger lifts drops the diff allowing that angle to stay the same.
So say a 1.75 inch levelling kit should be ok then?
I’ve owned 3 ford f-150 from 2015-2021 and I’ve installed a 2 inch level in the front and never had a problem not one I just don’t see how Toyota are fragile all of a sudden.
Agreed. Toyota's lift kit changes many parts to correct the geometry. Keeping your truck in warranty and full functionality of Toyota Safety Sense.
If you off road a 2” spacer with no diff drop, I think you’re on the hook for any issues. The angles may not be a problem on pavement, but even at slow speeds on uneven terrain, you’re putting extra strain on the front end with the excess weight of the tire and wheel combo.
This is 100% accurate. 2" spacer lift, severely reducing up or down travel (depending on the type of spacer). No aftermarket UCAs, no shock upgrades, no diff drop.. This is 100% user error.
Was this an issue on the old Tundra?
@@michaellamph4790 Spacers just aren't good.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 the issue isn’t the truck; it’s operator error.
@@whackityschmackitydo I was asking wether the old Tundra had the same problems with a 2" spacer.
Just got my 22 Tundra 3 days ago and am putting a 3/1” leveling kit on right now. I asked my dealership and parts department prior. They said it was fine and won’t void. It was text so I screen shotted it.
I would have them prove it was from the spacers.. Highly doubtful. Great videos big fan
Same here not to mention Toyota lifting its own trucks using after market kits also
All MODs are not covered by warranty. Dealer reps generally aren’t real smart.
That means nothing. The dealership doesn't get to decide what will or will not void a warranty.. Toyota does.
Watch the video again cuz he says leveling kit but says he lifted the front and rear so he lied and its a lift kit.
Mike, try a different dealership to see if you get the same response. My Tacoma had that cab break light leak that was fully covered under warranty…. But yet that same dealerships in Bend told me otherwise. Took it to another and they fixed it without hesitation and quickly!
Never been a big fan of the Bend dealership due to this.
yep, take off the strut spacer and head to another dealership.
There is a recall for that leaking 3rd brake light
He actually wasn’t drifting, he was Autocrossing his car and Toyota gives you a 1 year membership to NASA for road racing. Toyota took care of him but it was the dealership that was the problem.
It only voids the part(s) associated to your aftermarket modification, not the whole vehicle.
His tires are 6 sizes too big on a regular sized 1500 truck, and he’s wondering why his axles are getting worn out quicker 😂
Ok, well, everything from the tires all the way back to the engine are associated as well as every component in the front and rear suspension. Basically half the truck. He's running 35" tires that weight probably 2x what the stock tires weight.
@@nokizzy4504 are you saying that a brand new truck should be expected to wear out axles bc of larger tires? If so, you arent very familiar with Toyota. The previous generation could take on all kinds of extreme mods and didn't wear out noticably faster.
@@lordofreason549 I believe it. I’m just saying those tires are probably 3-4x heavier than stock. They’re wider and taller, with an aftermarket lift. Who knows, it could be a torsion key lift, which can cause even more wear and tear on Axles and components. The point is don’t run tires that don’t fit your truck. Maybe if this was a 2500 version it would be able to handle it, but who knows…all I know is don’t complain about warranty if you’re gonna put 5x bigger tires on.
Sorry to hear about your issues, I can relate to your disappointment. I t happens to me with the Taco 3rd gen. After 5 decades of been a happy Toyota truck owner I sold the that 2016 Taco. No low end torque, gearing too high, etc. Broke down at 70K (never had a Toyota that need it repairs at that mileage). Toyota need to get a chief engineer for their USA truck division like Yuichiro Obu or Chikuo kubota. Mike Sweers has been a disaster to Toyotas's reputation of QRD.
Hope you get the issues resolved, good luck
There is a difference between and spacer lift that changes the over length of the strut assembly changing the cv angle, and a collar lift that raises the truck height but doesn't change the overall travel of the strut assembly, it still moves in the factory spec measurement.
Looking back at your videos I noticed that you install a spacer lift. A spacer lift with IFS Toyota is bound to have issues as you're moving the travel beyond what the front suspension was designed for. Most lifts just move the center of the travel down, reducing up down travel to have a higher center point. But they don't increase down travel. A spacer lift will increase your down travel to where you'll have CV issues.
These trucks likely have bumpstops to keep them from traveling beyond the safe limit. They also have front anti sway bars that also limit the travel in the front IFS
If you want a lifted truck with warranty, buy it lifted at the dealership or get them to add a lift, you’ll have warranty on the lift and the truck, they might use oem part or the lift shop they partner will use their parts, but its all on warranty if it fails
I also made a video explaining even if Toyota installs the lift kit Toyota will not warranty related issues. I have been down that dirty road with a Polaris razor, the warranty was denied because of a technicality. I now better and that’s why I don’t lift my 22’ Tundra. Thx for the vid.
Thanks for this info on denying coverage even if Toyota did the lift. I’m looking at another TRD Off-road and was considering the lift. Thanks 🙏
The Toyota lift kit actually has new drive shafts. These aftermarket leveling kits ruin part geometries.
Yup it does. If it's the axle seal leaking, I would just look up the part number on the TRD axle and just buy that to remedy that situation. From the TRD lift kit press release: "It includes tuned Bilstein front and rear shock absorbers with taller TRD coil springs, TRD front lower knuckles, front extended axle-shafts, front stabilizer links, front outer tie rods, front tie rod sleeves, and several other upgraded parts. It’s worth noting that the forged upper control arms are produced by Roush."
Bulllll shit.
Yup the OEM kit is very complete. Many parts not found in any aftermarket lift kits.
Yup that was my thinking too. A lift or level directly impacts the drive axles. 🤦
@@TobyCostaRica Wow an OEM playing it safe because they don't want to be flooded with lawsuits? Never seen that before.
Hi Mike, it might be that your dealer operates in a different way. I live in SoCal and have lifted my Tacoma previously and never had an issue and I was told the only void would be if I replace items (example: replace shocks) the the issues wouldn’t be covered since I wouldn’t have OEM shocks. But for your dealer to void the whole warranty is insane
sorry that it happened to you, the cv should not leak if you are not stretching it too much by going offroad. That being said, the moment I started modifying my tundra, I kinda stopped expecting dealership to cover any suspension component failures because they really can’t judge either way who’s responsibility it is for the premature failures. I also don’t think any other companies are any different unless the truck came out of the box prelifted by Toyota (not the dealer).
I just checked with my local GM dealer here in Ontario, Canada. Lift your truck, modify the suspension, blah blah blah....100% voided warranty.
I installed 3/2 ReadyLift on my 2015 4x4 crewmax. I was told by Service manage at the dealership that I purchased my truck from. That the lift kit would not void my warranty. I had 2 minor mechanical issues that were related to each other about 2 yrs into ownership. Had nothing to do with the lift. Warranty was honored.
I was told the same thing at my dealership before I purchased my '21 Tundra. They did tell me if I go over a 3" lift, it would void certain parts of warranty on the front end.
Toyota has been shitting the bed quite a bit with the new Tundra. I cancelled my order for a Platinum and bought a RAM Longhorn Off-road instead. I'm getting 22MPG if I keep it under 65mph and I have tow hooks and 4WDAuto and metal skid plates instead that cheap plastic stuff. I've owned 5 Toyota's, but doubt I'll ever get another one.
Yeah but your RAM will break at the 55K for sure. Those things don't last
Tundra owners beware. I had a conversation with my dealership about installing the TRD lift kit. They will warranty the dealer installed parts but will void your powertrain warranty if you put any Tire on larger than OEM. Which makes installing a lift kit completely useless.
Sadly, it's not something else that broke, it's CV axles leaking. That's like the first thing that a lift kit alters, no matter how negligible it is. Dunno why people are saying Magnuson Moss Act contradict that. When you do the mod, you should have been ready for it. Bite the bullet, fix it at your cost.
A dealer that installs aftermarket parts will also warranty them, that's a consideration while you are under OEM warranty. They don't have an easy argument when the lift kit they provided causes problems in the drive train geometry.
1: Nothing VOIDS your warranty. The warranty will not cover damage caused by aftermarket parts.
2: Leveling kits are not the same as lift kits. Putting huge tires and a spacer kit on a truck is ABSOLUTELY going to cause damage to CV axles if you're offroading the vehicle - which this person's Instagram account clearly shows he is. Further, he points out specifically that he has not replaced shocks, upper control arms, lower control arms, or installed a differential drop kit. THESE THINGS ARE ALL NECESSARY WHEN PROPERLY LIFTING YOUR VEHICLE to help restore proper geometry. Are you seriously complaining that you did the cheapest lift possible and trying to use the fact that you didn't install integral parts as you should have as a reason that Toyota should honor the warranty on parts you destroyed? How ridiculous.
3: Yep. Toyota is encouraging people that want to do aftermarket modifications to purchase their vehicles. It works. Look at how many modified Toyotas you see out on the road. The warranty, however, clearly states that modifications that cause damage will not be covered. Who is at fault for not reading and understanding their warranty?
4: It all depends on the dealer. Some dealers will absolutely cover their aftermarket work under a dealer warranty. Again, it's up to the buyer to understand their warranty and how their modifications may impact said warranty.
I would encourage you all to learn the ins and outs of modifying a truck, accept liability where reasonable, and understand that the manufacturer is not at fault for modifications or damaged caused by modifications that you make. It's common sense. If you sold me a horse and tomorrow I put 4" horse shoes on the damned thing to make it taller, is it fair when I come back and demand a refund when the horse tripped and broke a leg? I miss the old days where we took responsibility for our actions instead of whining on TH-cam about it.
How do any of these mods stress the axle seals to failure or any more than without the mods?
I'm just not able to visualize how this lift stresses those seals to the point of failure and how that might be different than a non-lifted of same?
@@devilshaircut9 From another comment (not mine): "A spacer lift with IFS Toyota is bound to have issues as you're moving the travel beyond what the front suspension was designed for. Most lifts just move the center of the travel down, reducing up down travel to have a higher center point. But they don't increase down travel. A spacer lift will increase your down travel to where you'll have CV issues."
Having a 2022 1794 coming I downloaded the manuals as I usually do to get a head start on learning the vehicle or whatever purchase I need to get knowledge on. Numerous times through the manuals the note that if you lift the vehicle and do not use the Tundra lift it will void the warranty, it pays to read the manuals and warrantee info.
I hope they take care of you sounds like you’ve had it though, I asked my dealer and they said it you only void the part associated with the spacer, well good luck to all of us cause now I’m thinking I bought a truck I can’t lift 1 3/4 inch shoo, a 1794 at that.
These new Tundras, excluding the Pro, are too low and honestly have a 2WD look. They are going to loose a pile of sales if you can't even put a leveling kit on one without voiding a warranty.
I have 2022 TRD PRO and I’m researching whether or not to lift it especially with these little tires that came from the manufacture. Very well said and thank you for sharing. I thought that may void the warranty. But yes you are right especially if the lift is as little as 2 inches. Thank you 🙏🏼
I lifted my 23’ TRD Pro and all of the warranties are perfect
Hey, that’s because that problem was a direct result of the lift because if you have too much drop those axles and pop out. Normally as long as it’s a reasonable list if there’s some issue with the engine or something like that, they won’t say anything and they’ll just cover it.
I had Toyota install my leveling kit as my dealer has an entire department for truck upgrades. They guaranteed the work and I have in writing that the leveling kit will NOT void my warranty. Fingers crossed!
Give me the name of your dealer! Can’t get my dealership to tell me anything about dealership approved lift system. Service manger has told me that if I don’t put the same tires that the truck came with new , that it would void everything on the truck !!!! Everything!!!!! Then I talked to mechanics that work for Toyota that say it won’t void the warranty if Toyota dealership does the work . But dealership says it doesn’t offer any type of lift kit . But then you see lift kits offered by Toyota that are Toyota certified parts!!! Toyota needs to get their act together and solve this problem!!!! Love Toyota products, but really getting pissed about the run around by Toyota dealership!!!!!!
You just said it, "they offer a package with OEM parts". As a former Toyota rep nothing goes on that vehicle without appropriate testing to make sure it performs properly and not cause any adverse issues. Why should you be able to through junk on your car it causes damage and think Toyota should cover it. Grow up.
Shut up
I disagree, if Toyota puts it on and sells it that way (obviously charging you more because of the modifications) they should absolutely cover it.
@@jeffreywilles4283 If the dealership installs an aftermarket component on a new car it's not covered by Toyota's warranty. If that aftermarket component causes damage to the vehicle then the dealership is responsible for the repairs to the vehicle not Toyota.
You do realize that dealerships are independent Franchises. They can do whatever they want with the car once they purchased that vehicle from Toyota. It doesn't mean that Toyota will cover the repairs.
That makes sense, as long as someone takes the responsibility for it and covers repairs for everything . The dealership is the one selling me the platinum warranty and I assume pocketing those dollars.
This is why I bought a 2022 4runner. It has the 4.0 v6 that is a great engine and no turbos to worry about. Not the fastest but reliable.
100%!! I’d take a ‘22-23 4Runner over anything in Toyotas line up.
Yes, the 4R is a great truck. The Taco and Tundra are duds. I hope they don’t ruin the 4Runner in 24.
I'm sorry you're going through this I've had similar happen to me in the past. What I can say is I've learned not to buy the new models when they come out because of the issues they have
Well damn, sorry to hear this. I'm still on a waiting list for my Tundra and this is definitely something to consider.
Too funny
Others have said it
Only voids the parts affected
Same for every brand
The toyota dealer near me told me that swapping out yoir suspension and adding 2 larger tire sizes and it doesn't void the warranty u less there is a failure caused by the after market parts or installation.
Your dealer was burning you. They went out of their way to find an excuse.
I’m approaching 30,000 miles on my Tacoma TRD ORDC 4x4 that I bought brand new and installed a 1.5 inch lift with fox by pass shocks on all 4 corners and let me tell you I beat the crap out of it off road and not a single issue, runs I think better than day 1 when in bought it brand new
I am having the box storage units installed by Toyota because you have to take the taillights out to install the units. I did not want to void my electrical warranty just for that reason. When you spend 90 grand on a vehicle you do not want any excuse to have your warranty voided.
I'm sorry to hear about your truck. Back in 1999, I got the 2000 Tundra V8 and we had a service bulletin for the brakes. Shimmy issues etc. That was such an ordeal. As a diehard Toyota fan, this 3rd generation Tundra isn't going to swell for past or present Tundra owners. I hope Toyota helps you out in the future.
I'm sorry but if you mod, you pay to play. That goes for any brand. The warranty spells out what is acceptable and what isn't.
Regarding recalls, I’d think the dealer would do the work because Toyota pays for the fix and the dealer probably wouldn’t say anything and recalls are outside of the warranty usually. Recalls apply to vehicles after the warranty is up.
I had a CV axle leaking on my 07 FJ. I had a 3" coilover lift and the diff drop spacer. Multiple dealerships denied my warranty because they said it was directly related to the lift kit. I went through the same process of "is the liftkit installed wrong?" and "can you prove that the lift caused the leak?" Eventually I just caved and payed for the repairs, but luckily that was the only issue that came from having the lift over many many years of offroad abuse. I did have to replace my throwout bearing twice in 100K miles (6MT truck) but other than that the things solid as hell.... I guess would also caution those who VALUE the warranty about modifications within the warranty period....
There is just about no way possible to prove that some small change technically caused the problem. Maybe it did.. maybe it didn't. Maybe it's just a bad coincidence... But if the modification is related to what failed, it won't be covered. There is no proof required to void the warranty, nor would it be possible to prove it. Now, if you changed a light bulb in your turn signal and all of a sudden your transmission had an issue... they wouldn't be able to say that your trans warranty is void due to a new lightbulb. There's no correlation.
This has been par for the course for just about any car or truck, any manufacturer, going back 30 years. If you modify the stereo, your stereo warranty is gone. If you modify the suspension, the suspension warranty (and most things connected TO the suspension) is void, too. If you modify the engine, your engine warranty is void. This is normal. Do this stuff after your warranty is gone. Just because Toyota might display a heavily modified vehicle at a car show, doesn't mean you're free to do the same thing without consequences. The odds are that the leveling kit had nothing to do with the failure... but because the failure occurred on something related to the suspension, you're now on the hook. That is the risk of performing the modification.
Depending on what type of spacer you have up front, you might be exceeding the limits of the cv axles at full droop, depends on whether or not the ball joints limit down travel or the cv axle. I'm sure someone can answer that on here.
The TRD Pro uses the same axle and it has a factory 2" lift as far as I'm aware.
@@gr8fasushi But does the pro have a differential drop kit installed?
I mean what did you expect... it's a new platform so you are the one who's going to suffer from all those first initial problems with lift kits, that's why I'm keeping mine stock for now trying to retain gas mileage and drivability
Sounds like the dealer is no good. I would go to a different dealer i have lifted many Toyotas and never had a problem.
I was looking into purchasing a Tacoma, not any more. If the dealerships are denying warranty claims because of lift kits, I'm out. The truck would be useless to me stock.
I lifted my 4Runner and within 50 miles, the axles puked everywhere. Didn’t even think about going to the dealer, I just fixed the axles.
The only parts voided are the ones replaced in the lift. The lift shop better have a good warranty for their parts and install.
I like how he took down the video of him lifting the front as if that will some how help
65k truck, 200 dollar lift, yea makes alot of sense.
I suspect dealership warranty claims being accepted for this type of issue will be variable. As for the voiding of warranty for other issues, that should only happen if the issue is attributable to modifications made.
In the end, spacer lifts are less than ideal. Sucks you're having issues so early in your ownership experience regardless.
I asked my dealer several times before buying my 24 Limited TRD OR if lifting it would void the warranty and they told me no..... haven't done it yet, but want to. Now I'm worried haha.
Well, IF I ever get my Tundra TRD Pro back from being towed into the dealer with 286 miles, I can say I agree. I’m waiting over a week now to get it back! I will not be putting on the Westcott lift now after watching this, THAT’S for sure!
I just added a 1.75 leveling kit with 35's a nd 1/4 wheel spacer no problems yet. In the event of a problem I sure hope their's no problem with my warranty . I'll keep all informed.
Hows it going? Any issues? Also, was this on a 2022 Tundra?
You might want to install a front differential drop kit. They are less than $40.00, (JEGS should have them), and pretty simple to install. Certainly could be done by anyone that is a little bit handy....(plenty of you tube videos out there)....no special tools needed. The kit lowers the diff a little over an inch and gets the angle of the front axels closer to stock. The CV joints should last a little longer too.
I did this on my 4Runner and it eliminated a slight vibration at 60mph after I installed the 2" lift.
Apparantly diff drops are very difficult on the new generation (22+) Tundras. Will wait to see what the aftermarket comes up with, but 2" is still a pretty small lift.
How does adding a 2 inch leveling kit cause a Oil leak I’m Confused
Doesn’t look like the dealer said that. Just that the warranty is void after the mod.
The oil is coming from the axel where the CV joints connect to it...not the engine. Lifting the suspension changes the angle of the front axel shafts and can put stress on the CV joints and cause premature wear.
@@stevevice9863 Thanks! I got it I didn’t know that I just assumed it was coming from the engine!
I would say the axles are related to the lift. It changes the angle. You want coverage, I'm pretty sure toyota offers their own lift kit that shouldn't void the warranty.
John Elway's Crown Toyota told me that I can lift my truck up to 2” and it won’t void the warranty.
Also just so you know..tge oversized tires will void your warranty when your junk rear-end blows up on you..I've heard rumors about a recall..Toyota decided to cheap out with a light weight higher gear ratio rear-end..I wish you luck..
Look I had a Truck lifted but by the manufacturer That way my warranty wasn’t Voided that’s the thing The manufacture does want you to modify your vehicle however using factory parts that way you don’t alter any components
Just bought a Cornfed 1.5” x 1” leveling kit. I hope I don’t have the same problems. Seems like there’s tons of Tundra owners in the forums talking that get leveling kits and don’t have problems (yet?)
I'm thinking it's a dealership issue. My truck came with Toyota factory 2" level and bigger tires (275 65 20) and all of mine is covered under factory warranty (In writing). I don't have any leaks, but they did use whatever parts Toyota has for that, I'm assuming. Hope it gets better for you man
If you have the TRD oem lift you have a lot more parts he doesn’t have. The OEM kid extends the axles, brake lines, tie rods, etc for a 2.6” lift. A proper lift. He just did spacers and who knows what the shop did when installing it.
@@TobyCostaRica Ok..Gotcha.
I'm confused, the Toyota dealer near me sell 22 Tundras with a lift kit installed. They charge extra obviously. I think your dealership is screwing you.
As far as warranty for the vehicle and the lift.....
If you change the angle of the CV joints you're putting lateral pressure on them and the seals. When I lifted my Tacoma I did a diff drop to compensate.
Of coarse, I completely changed the suspension, not a spacer.
According to my dealership everything original Toyota still warranted. Naturally they're not going to cover any aftermarket parts.
Thank you for posting honest information. I'm pretty frustrated by all the issues the Tundra has been having. Would you ever consider trading it for something else? I think you did the right thing buying the Tundra for your channel, but I don't think buying a brand new model is ever a good idea for the average buyer. Thank you for the great videos.
In general I still think the new Tundra is a great truck and I agree buying new isn't necessarily the best idea but its also more necessary if you want to be relevant on TH-cam and provide useful information to viewers.
Love the new Tundra but if I'm in the market for one I would wait until 2026 to be honest. By then all the issues will be dissolved
I agree with you. It’s a love hate relationship. I’ve already been denied on a defect with my multimedia screen. Secondly, my CarPlay has stopped connecting wirelessly and dealer has no clue and has denied they can do anything and I’m just going to have to live with ‘tethering’ for now. What’s the point of that option. It doesn’t even connect just to use phone without having to use a cable. Third issue is the window seal…they say it’s a known problem but no fix yet. Sometimes I regret getting rid of my 2018 5.7 Tundra to get this new fully redesigned which seems like issues keep popping up and it’s only been 5 months.
Yup ..
Had my 4runner modified at the dealership to retain my warranty, it was noted in the contract before signing the contract of purchase..
That’s just doesn’t seem right you sure it doesn’t just void the warranty on the suspension part that should not void your engine and transmission and all that
My Dealer told me I could lift my truck 3” and still have warranty.I’m in Texas
I think you need to find a new dealer! Those CV axles seals should be covered! Good luck! Keep us posted!
I’ve heard once a dealer flags you, you’re screwed.
Sounds like a case of a dealer just being difficult. Try another one
100%
Sounds like the good old entitled customer issue to me...
Well i was waiting on buying the 4Runner redesign but now rethinking my plan. Had a formidable tough as nails Fj previously but it seems Toyota have adopted throw away vehicle culture like domestic producers as of late.
Will be interesting for me to see if they honour their warranty with you... gee, if i put rims, truck cap and some tint... perfect excuse for Toyota to steal my warranty? I think not...
Only way they can void the warranty is if they can prove that it was caused by the lift. And if they can prove that the lift caused failure it can only void warranty on the part it caused failure. As for the new OEM TRD lift that is $2995 plus install that comes with new axles. If it had a CV axle seal leak are they still going to cover that? I would tell you that you have faulty seals or bushings! Not the lift. We sell over 3000 of our lifts a month and have not had a problem with any seals. We have trucks with over 150k miles on them with no problems. So I would say Toyota is taking the easy way out on this one. We install in house 170 kits a month so I feel that this is a cop out by your local dealer.
My dealer said it covered from 3” to 6” lift as long as you don’t cut into the frame or modify the frame
I think it’s for all manufacturers. You cannot just lift a truck without replacing parts. 🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼.
I replace cylinder heads on my engine and it voided my warranty🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼.
Sad to hear about the oil leak, and ultimately the dealer's response to the leak. What is the ultimate resolution to your issue?
Get it fixed . It’s his fault
The Toyota dealer near my house said I can lift my 4Runner 2022 Trd pro and it will not void the warranty. Maybe it’s just that dealer?
The entire warranty or just those axles? As far as the other little annoying issues..........buyers should know that any first year model with this significant of a redesign will have bugs to work out. Not even Toyota is immune to that. If buyers have to be the first to have it then they are the ones that help work the bugs out. Whether they know it or not. It takes 2-3 model years I'm guessing. If you don't want those kinds of problems, don't be the first in line.
Edit - I meant to add that here in Texas at my dealership (awesome one), I bought my '19 1794 new and before having my 2" spacer installed, I asked my service advisor about it and he warranty and he laughed and said "No! We'll even install it for you! We install them all the time."
Same dealership that makes you pay for your oil and filters under Toyota Care? Wow, dealership of the year!
Yep one and the same. Glad you have a better dealership to work with!
Rough Country puts out information telling consumers that there was a law passed against that. I test drove a new Tundra today and the salesman told me 2.5” is the magic number for not voiding the warranty. Hope to get a new Tundra soon and lift it, so I’d like to get correct info. There’s even a TRD factory lift as an option.
Can you share that Rough Country information. Also, did u get the Rough Country lift? And has Toyota given u any issues.
I feel for the issue you are going through. That must be a tuff one to deal with. So many people lift these trucks and this is the first I have heard of a failure. Is this just tuff luck and rare to happen? I understand the voiding of the warranty was the issue here but how often are people seeing mechanical failures with a lift?
Well I mean CV axles are directly effected by lifts. So makes sense. If it was an oil leak it wouldn’t have been effected
Crazy stuff, thank you for sharing info.
I'm about to put 35 s tires on truck plus leveling kit. No thank you
And here I was thinking a new Tundra would be my escape from a 2018 GMC Sierra that I’ve had nothing but expensive problems with. Its disappointing that Toyota has launched this truck with so many issues. I feel confident they will get them straightened out so maybe I’ll just hold out for the 2024 Tundra where all the bugs are worked out.
Thats just a BS. Dealers try their best not to take responsibility. Have you tried different dealership? From my experience private dealerships are pain the neck. Also did u add a diff drop? I don’t own thunder but on my 4 runner i added diff drop to avoid any stress on axle.
Thinking I’ll keep my 2011 TRD OFF-ROAD instead of getting a new one until all this is straightened out. Sorry for your hassles. Thank you for keeping us in the loop. All the best!
I had a 2’’ spacer lifted at my Toyota dealer , from the dealer i bought it at, and they specifically told me the warranty was still good because it was installed by a Toyota tech.Granted, this was a few years ago so maybe this is a new thing.That said, I wasn’t impressed with the new gen Tundra and just didnt think it stacked up in the full size market for the price. No 4A, the interior, and $$ didnt stack up to Ford/Ram. Now Toyota is basically charging for the reliability, which it hasn’t shown it has yet.
I recommend not taking this guy's word for it. It sounds like he's dealing with a shady dealership. This sounds personal lol
That’s why I still drive my 1993 Dodge Cummins W350 4x4 5 speed!
I could go buy a brand new one but comes with All kinds of sensors and full of Emissions.
Simple is better.
Did you watch this video at all? Literally nothing to do with sensors or emissions.
Worked for Toyota, they can only refuse warranty on parts affected and also need to provide proof that the lift was why part faild.
Also not all lifts are made same , budget lifts are usually the issue.
Fight the decision they made directly with Toyota not the dealership.
This is especially frustrating considering that their OEM TRD 3" lift kit does NOT fit '22 Tundra's with the AVS in the rear. So if I find a third-party kit that DOES fit the AVS, I void the warranty?? Only if that mod is the CAUSE of a failure.
Toyota dealerships have become the absolute worst customer service and care for customers ever! It’s for this reason why dealerships rightfully so get such a bad rap. Dealerships should go away, direct purchases from manufacturers via order online should be the way to go. Completely separate Toyota service centers supported by the manufacturers themselves should be built to support there products ad customers! FYI, I was a lifelong Toyota customer and left the brand last year due the dealership and the service experiences the past few years.
Unfortunately the Magnuson Moss warranty act isn't going to help in this case. If you "modify" any component of the suspension then the suspension portion of the manufacturers warranty is voided. If you modify the suspension of your vehicle and a non suspension component subsequently fails then you would at least have a case.
I would always recommend that a Toyota dealer install the major modifications during the factory warranty period.
2" spacers does not a major modification make.
OUCH! I've had some minor issues with my 2022 Tundra but nothing like this. Have you heard of anyone else having problems with lifts? Still enjoying mine but I have a short list of issues that I'll have the dealer address when I go in for the 10K service. Hope Toyota steps up and tries to figure this out instead of giving you the Heisman.
Usually better to speak to the actual Service Manager when there is a problem rather than an advisor. Advisors can be sketchy depending on who you deal with.
Toyota warranty sucks i bought my tundra four months ago came with the center console safe from manufacture the safe actually ended up cutting the leather on the center console and Toyota won’t cover it.
Very informal thank you.What lift is on your truck?
Not true you can go 3 inches without voiding the warranty. Got that directly from my dealer.
Whats messed up about this is when I purchased my Tundra, I ask the mechanic if leveling the truck would void the warrantee and was told no.
Someone is hoping if he complains they will fix his truck like they did for the BRZ owner. Plain and simple.
Plenty of other valid comments here about what to do so I won’t rehash them. Sorry your truck is a time bomb.