Every artist, journalist, and writer will also say the same to every other artist, journalist, and writer. Mofos LOVE to pretend their work is original
@@geteducatedyoufool4563 thats how all art works you take inspiration and make it your own, ai is different because its stealing artists art without permission to use a computer to recreate it without paying any artist journalist writer etc ever again. pls live up to ur username my friend
@ @sospup Art is derivative. ‘Making it your own’ is a cop out. You couldn’t make your own art unless you first stole the idea from the guy that gave you influence. Did you ask artists permission before you took influence from their work? Nope. AI also takes inspiration just like artists do… it’s not just wholly taking an entire persons work and reposting it with zero changes is it..? Music artists do this, they take influence from others and make a song ‘their own’ and you know what happens? They get sued. Everyone from Led Zeppelin to Eminem get sued because trashy artists want to pretend they made unique masterpieces despite the fact that they stole ideas from others… and yet they get angry when others do the exact same thing as they did AI MUST have guardrails but you’re living in looney tune land if you don’t see the parallel here…. If people just claimed they were responsible for all the work AI did would you even outrage the same way? If I took inspiration from the guy who came up with the original Charizard Pokémon and changed it to be smaller, two heads, all blue, different head, and lots of scales throughout the body… do you think I should get in trouble for theft? If I asked AI to deliver the exact same thing then what about now? More theft? Less theft? Do you think I made it “my own” with all the changes? Did I ask permission? I partially don’t blame artists who try and sue. Get that bag. But it’s stupid af to make the argument you’re making as if humans aren’t doing exactly what AI is doing. At that point you’re just hating on the efficiency Funny how you bring up my username. 90% of the time it gets brought up by idiots who are more triggered by what I say than by me saying something that is actually wrong. Usually right wing idiots 😂
Bryan Johnson has the vibe of someone who really wants to be a vampire but he doesn't know any vampires and he can't publicly ask to be a vampire (because that would seem desperate) so he's just trying really really hard to impress the nonexistent secret vampires so they will let him into their secret vampire club
So we're all in consensus that Anastasia is an immortal being who has lived a million lives and acquired all of the knowledge in the universe and is just choosing to have a silly goofy time with the sad boys instead of destroying us all right?
i’ve been questioning my gender for so long now and i finally feel seen. i know now. i am a sad kaiju. thank you, sad boyz, for finally giving me understanding and insight into myself. from the bottom of my heart, thank you. *grateful yet melancholic roar*
The final stage of Brian’s immortality journey is going to be him realising he can’t keep his body from death so he implants his consciousness into his son’s body. With his son’s consciousness still present, so he doesn’t get lonely.
I had a man catcall me seemingly on autopilot while he was walking his dog. Didn't even look up, he just like felt my presence and automatically said something.
Along the lines of what Jordan was saying, I think one of the biggest issues with AI is that its current public perception allows it to be scapegoated by corporations and powers-that-be to absolve them of responsibility. It seems like many people are more focused on the "intelligence" side and less on the "artificial" part. When AI gets treated like some all-knowing autonomous being, it's easier to point at it when something goes wrong and go "Look, it was the computer's fault!" and ignore the fact that those faults are entirely the product of human decisions and engineering. Who gets to decide when AI is deployed? And what data sets it gets fed?
Thank you guys for not tip-toeing around the Mormon issue. I'm exmormon and was raised in what exmormons sometimes call Morridor (the Mormon corridor) and I firmly believe it is a cult. I get real annoyed when creators act like the LDS church is just another religion with good and bad people in it, as if the very doctrine and leadership of the church isn't foundational to the toxic cult culture that surrounds it.
Good to see a fellow exmo among the Sad Boyz crowd! I'm also an ex-mormon from Bountiful, UT and I totally agree with you. More people familiar with the Mormon church need to call it out as a cult so that uninformed people don't get sucked in by missionaries. While there are good Mormon people, that doesn't change the fact that the church itself is a corrupt corporation that hoards wealth and power and hold immense control over people's minds.
idk if this helps you at all but i’ve noticed as an american who lives overseas, the rest of the world generally thinks mormonism is a weird cult. it’s a very american thing to think that mormonism is normal should be accepted as a real religion. many, many people agree with you about it being a cult they’re just few and far between in america.
Bryan Johnson’s situation just feels like a case study in why treating mental health as an important aspect of your health would benefit not only individuals but society as a whole. From everything he’s done with his son to perpetuating this lifestyle as a means of dealing with mental health issues, it’s causing harm. It is imperative that we keep pushing for mental health to be openly discussed and effectively evaluated by healthcare professionals because he’s not the only one causing harm because of an inability to accept and understand their own emotions. If more issues were caught early on, if more people went to therapy even if they don’t have a mental illness and learned how to regulate, and how their actions affect others, if people were able to understand and be treated for whatever may be going on with less judgement, then we wouldn’t have a lot of the problems were currently facing. Obviously it wouldn’t solve everything, but mental health, hyper-individualism, and emotional instability are huge aspects of many societal problems.
I find it interesting that Brian Johnson, in his quest of trying not to age and die, is now dealing with this question of "How do I make myself healthy? What counts as metrics for being 'healthy'?" because now his experiments cover all sorts of things that society thinks what health is, when in fact most are probably just social constructs (e.g. having a lot of muscle, getting erection or not, etc.)
Personally, I feel like Jarvis is the consistent variable when it comes to an intro and Jordan is the one to make it a little different. For lack of a better example I can compare it to the end of the Fairly Odd Parents intro that changes Vicky's head to something a little different each time it's that little bit of variation that keeps it a little fresh. What im saying is that i enjoy Jordan just improvising his intros
I probably had the pod on last night while I was sleeping cause I dreamt of you guys, and Jordan took my phone to install some sort of spyware on it to prove I had a crush on Jarvis
I actually am quite concerned about how AI is gonna be used in education, largely on the student end. Like we've all heard the complaint from maths students that "We have calculators, why would we ever need to learn this?" Soon enough i think we're gonna approach a point where people are saying "Why should I write this short story/essay/analysis, AI can do it for me", ignoring the critical point that we're taught these things because they broaden the ways in which we think and help us in our personal and professional lives to construct things in a particular way. Same as maths, we're taught it because it teaches you patterns of thought that can be helpful in your day to day life, as well as important skills if you do pursue a career in that field.
oh, yeah, I fear that as well. I’ve gone back to uni for a second degree and everybody in my classes is about ten years younger than me. a lot of them use chatgpt for everything, from asking about stuff that you can easily google or look up in the lecture notes, to coming up with essay style answers for both group and individual projects, as well as to outsource their personal reflections. it’s… it’s something. 🫥
My brother was just in a literature course (UPPER level, too, like a 300s class, at a massive State University) and the professor took a poll by raise of hands to see who was against the use of AI in writing their essay assignments, and my brother was one of TWO people opposed to it, and I guess classes are just democracies now, because the majority rules there and the professor said it would be allowed. I would've thought this testimony was fake if it wasn't coming from my own brother. It's wild. I got my degree in 2017 so it's been a while since I was in a class or involved in academics, so it's wild for me to hear how much things have changed.
@@Khronogi it's so bizarre how many people seem to be just ok with that, though. I feel people that are sad about this are in the minority - myself and my brother included in the sad bunch. He's changing to a STEM major after encountering this attitude so much in the English department. As a person with a Liberal Arts degree it's so confusing to me that things got like this so fast, but we should've seen the lack of full novels being assigned in lower level English classes as the canary in the coalmine. It all started with "No Fear Shakespeare" and Sparknotes. Should've absolutely never been allowed in academia.
I'm in medical school and people use ChatGPT to answer questions for them or to explain things they don't understand. I do NOT trust it since it hallucinates so much. We have so many ebooks and guidelines available to us as students, if I have a question I'll look it up any of the resources that my uni provides. Case in point for hallucinations, there's an antibody called anti-CCP, a friend asked ChatGPT what the role of anti-CCP was in rheumatoid arthritis and ChatGPT said it was an antibody against the Chinese Communist Party :/
Jordan making a great point about the POV of corporations in the USA when he said they would rather you argue with an AI than argue with them. This is, essentially, the same concept as customer service departments. With a small business or with traditional communication from the 20th century you could be wronged by someone and physically speak with a decision maker to argue or ask for restitution. Companies don't like that. So it started with customer service reps/front desk people/etc. Then that evolved into teams and a manager, then an entire department, then email based "we will call you" forms, then they took phone numbers out of their website contact pages, now it's AI. They are removing the layers of accountability between leadership and the customer and replacing them with walls. It's the same thing these mega corps want to do with their work force by contracting out services to other companies and only employing leadership positions directly.
16:02 my mom likes to say “one person poops their pants and we all have to wear diapers” but I feel like corporations never have to wear the diapers when they shit on us
That's because we only have to wear the diapers if the corporations have created a fear campaign around possible poopy pants and monetized the diapers...
As an exmo I love when people you’d never think would talk about Mormonism get talk about it, it’s just interesting to me to hear outside perspectives on it
I also left a very extreme insular religion and I'm envious of this experience. No one's ever unexpectedly talking about Orthodox Judaism (in a way I'd be interested to listen to anyway 😂).
Yes, it is extremely validating to me to hear people talk about the church as this crazy, strange, and toxic thing. The fact that people that weren't raised Mormon don't even take the church seriously and call it out as a cult helps me stop gaslighting myself about how bad my upbringing actually was.
im literally so tired of seeing ai slop everywhere im so serious to give a recent example cheritz the dev of mystic messenger tweets it out like it's nothing and no one will notice? ok
I swear it feels like everything, just everything has been replaced with AI slop. Like can we go back to photoshopping things for funny images? Please? Or editing videos?
This was not a place I’d expect to see anyone mention mysmes. But also I’m not surprised Cheritz has done that. I fell off their stuff ages ago, I didn’t like their new stuff, but I’ve seen other mobile otome titles do similar stuff.
As an ex eating disordered person, I agree. They all give anorexia vibes and an underlying terror of eating the wrong thing, so eating nothing is better.
My husband studies a master degree in AI... One of the biggest parts of his course, is ethics.. but, it someone put profit over ethics, there's nothing the people with ethics can do... You can't put toothpaste back in the tube
You don't learn as well if everything is just explained to you every time. The actual struggle to remember or figure it out causes your brain to work and remember.
i appreciate the gangly weirdo with bad bones (ouch!) representation this podcast provides. also very excited to watch you guys on um actually this season
watching this show in the perfect conditions: under my blankets (with an electric one on top) soft lighting in the room, cup of bedtime tea and an oatmeal square, and just a little bit high
I really liked Lily Alexandre's essay on Brian, she touches onto the religious aspect of his influence and lifestyle at the end, too. It's a fascinating watch and really well made!
i love jarvis talking about technical tech stuff!!!! it is interesting, and opinions hold more weight when people clearly know what they're talking about. most importantly it is interesting
Really good episode. Appreciated the bit about mentioning the differences in energy used by the competing AIs, especially with the increase of unprecedented climate emergencies. Also, the trigger / activation warnings were appreciated. And I mean in dealing with trauma there are healthy and unhealthy coping mechanisms and the extremity of it matters too. It really does seem like like he dove into continuing to dehumanize himself after the abuse instead of choosing to humanize himself, which does take a tremendous amount of effort and time. Also, thank you for talking about the cult and the ex stuff involved. Also also...yeah Jordan is right. Pretending you don't have emotions or if you are getting abused and are not allowed to show your emotions can make you physically ill in various ways over time. Duration and intensity being large factors. As well as the amount of support you received during and after those times.
At 56:47 someone hits their mic and I literally thought something had fallen in my house somewhere 😂 My new headphones are revealing sounds I’ve never heard before.
5:50 ok but dump trucks are in right now- at least the ppl i watch. CDawgVA, Ludwig, all these ppl have the ENTIRE BAKERY. Especially Lud. I’m genuinely so jealous, because there’s this huge butt gene that skipped right by me, the one who WANTS the hourglass figure. Instead it went to my brother 😭
My internet is really bad right now and the video wasn't playing for a good 30 seconds before I realized it was buffering instead of you guys just doing a weird bit
I wish mental health held more importance and less stigma in the lds church. As a member, its hard to see how people's identities become so wrapped up in the church that they don't have anything outside of it. I am grateful my parents tried to teach me about growing my identity and having church principles as an additional benefit to my life. I wish more people in my church could see things in a broader perspective because agreeing with things blindly and not trying to understand the world outside of the church is what leads people to believe it is a cult. In truth, we are supposed to question if it is right and have faith to trust that everything will work out for our good, like any other Christian denomination. Joseph Smith's whole story is about questioning if it is right or not. I always appreciate hearing peoples perspectives, especially since I love this podcast. I'm glad they talked about it because it is important, and more people should be aware of it in multiple religious settings. (Please dont comment if you want to hate on my religion. I won't be responding to negative comments.)
One in accuracy, and it's nit picky but we don't go to church every day. The most I was going to church was as a youth and that was twice a week. And the midweek gathering was mostly fun.
1:19:26 talking as someone raised for 17 years in the mormon church: very much yes. it's such an enormous part of your life, literally your entire community, and you've been taught it's the only thing making you a good person, which is what makes leaving so difficult and leaves a HUGE hole when you do. I don't know if Brian also grew up in the church, but for the son at least, there's an insane level of indoctrination and psychological manipulation when you don't know anything but the church. and if he went straight from the church to his dad, then he probably sees those as the only two options
A lot of this stuff makes sense as a sort of overcorrection of church teachings. Being ok with his dad posting his erection data, well at least an adult in his life is acknowledging sexuality in any other context than porn addiction. And Brian's obsession with slowing his aging is very reflective of the emphasis the church puts on eternal life after death for you and your family.
he does all this and he's only five years younger than he should be? i used to do coke for two meals a day and according to my doctor i'm three years younger biologically than i should be
The thing to point out about "they used open ai data" is 1. Open ai stole a lot of that data, or else these big companies just snuck it into user agreements and they took it. It was never their data. And 2. Perhaps more importantly, open AI has their own data and they didn't make a model as efficient with that data. It's hard to say they stole from you when they made something better
I have heard the warnings about Balatro's deleterious effects on a person's life from everyone and their mama (and also their dental hygienist, plus every train conductor in NYC??) And yet...every time one of the boyz mentions that app, I get closer and closer to making that $9.99 deal with the devil.
Bryan Johnson seems like a guy who read a Batman comic - and all the writers generic ways of how Bruce Wayne reached peak physical condition - noticed that Bruce seems to never age, then decided to do that irl without realising it's a piece of fiction written by comic book writers, not health/wellbeing professionals
i work in medical research ethics and medical research related AI is being heavily regulated and prepared for behind the scenes from an ethical regulatory standpoint
i’ve never heard of anyone wishing they had a hank hill butt lmao adsfdgdg,, i just thought ppl universally across all gender expressions typically enjoy being at least a lil caked up. i would kill for a nicer/more round and full tushy. so it just goes to show how insecurities we presume everyone inherently shares are just unique to each person and that someone can genuinely like something about you or your appearance/presentation even if its the last thing you’re able to be confident about.
I genuinely appreciated the podcast feature as one of the ads? I know they may not be as lucrative, but I feel like that's a form of community in the podcast sphere that I've been missing lately.
around 14:00 talk about AI, i super disagree that it's helpful to learn how to solve math equations because it can explain that to you or whatever, because it just pulls that information from somewhere else online likley without the origional authors permission, theres examples of AI basically just lifting whole paragraphs with no credits given, not to mention that it lies all the time, and theres no way to know if its just making it up or not
I also disagree with using AI here. As a teacher, I'd much rather have my students come to me with a question like this because A) I can identify what specific misconception or missing skill they're dealing with and help them focus on that and B) If ten of my students all have that same question, I'd rather take a quick pause to talk about it with the whole class rather than soldiering on while some students are lost.
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Open AI: "😭 They trained on our data!!! 😭😭"
*Every artist, journalist and writer:* 😐
Fr tho
Every artist, journalist, and writer will also say the same to every other artist, journalist, and writer.
Mofos LOVE to pretend their work is original
@@geteducatedyoufool4563 🙄🙄🙄
@@geteducatedyoufool4563 thats how all art works you take inspiration and make it your own, ai is different because its stealing artists art without permission to use a computer to recreate it without paying any artist journalist writer etc ever again. pls live up to ur username my friend
@ @sospup Art is derivative. ‘Making it your own’ is a cop out. You couldn’t make your own art unless you first stole the idea from the guy that gave you influence. Did you ask artists permission before you took influence from their work? Nope. AI also takes inspiration just like artists do… it’s not just wholly taking an entire persons work and reposting it with zero changes is it..?
Music artists do this, they take influence from others and make a song ‘their own’ and you know what happens? They get sued. Everyone from Led Zeppelin to Eminem get sued because trashy artists want to pretend they made unique masterpieces despite the fact that they stole ideas from others… and yet they get angry when others do the exact same thing as they did
AI MUST have guardrails but you’re living in looney tune land if you don’t see the parallel here…. If people just claimed they were responsible for all the work AI did would you even outrage the same way?
If I took inspiration from the guy who came up with the original Charizard Pokémon and changed it to be smaller, two heads, all blue, different head, and lots of scales throughout the body… do you think I should get in trouble for theft? If I asked AI to deliver the exact same thing then what about now? More theft? Less theft? Do you think I made it “my own” with all the changes? Did I ask permission?
I partially don’t blame artists who try and sue. Get that bag. But it’s stupid af to make the argument you’re making as if humans aren’t doing exactly what AI is doing. At that point you’re just hating on the efficiency
Funny how you bring up my username. 90% of the time it gets brought up by idiots who are more triggered by what I say than by me saying something that is actually wrong. Usually right wing idiots 😂
"Jacob, I just sent you two horrifying images" said so casually is so funny lmfao
Bryan Johnson has the vibe of someone who really wants to be a vampire but he doesn't know any vampires and he can't publicly ask to be a vampire (because that would seem desperate) so he's just trying really really hard to impress the nonexistent secret vampires so they will let him into their secret vampire club
if that club existed he would be in it lmao he sold a company he built from the ground up for $800 mill to paypal
@@neonice6137I would assume vampires wouldn't gaf about $$ lmao probs just about vibes 🦇
So we're all in consensus that Anastasia is an immortal being who has lived a million lives and acquired all of the knowledge in the universe and is just choosing to have a silly goofy time with the sad boys instead of destroying us all right?
Not Anastasia casually dropping she had a Mormon ex-husband.
right??? that one threw me off lol
Drop of all drops, but they knew obviously so that got no reaction.
Time for the Mormon cast someone call QTCinderella
I was like Are we gonna just act normal about that???
Damn she's stuck on his planet in the afterlife.
I was looking around like "is everyone aware of that lore?!" 😂
i’ve been questioning my gender for so long now and i finally feel seen. i know now. i am a sad kaiju. thank you, sad boyz, for finally giving me understanding and insight into myself. from the bottom of my heart, thank you. *grateful yet melancholic roar*
based therian moment
So happy for you 💖💫
"I would never sully my ancestor's blade with your poorly-colored plasma" gawd this podcast is a gift
The final stage of Brian’s immortality journey is going to be him realising he can’t keep his body from death so he implants his consciousness into his son’s body. With his son’s consciousness still present, so he doesn’t get lonely.
The plot of cyberpunk 2077 but slightly more wholesome lol
I had a man catcall me seemingly on autopilot while he was walking his dog. Didn't even look up, he just like felt my presence and automatically said something.
that's such a bizarre experience, jfc
Brother had muscle memory
@@WarblertownsendMuscle misogyny?
My brain always supplies that after "I'm Jarvis" Jordan should say "I'm Johnson"
real
I think this every single episode
So real
Thank you! I think that every time
The fact that Jordan's name also starts with j makes it impossible for me to not think this
Along the lines of what Jordan was saying, I think one of the biggest issues with AI is that its current public perception allows it to be scapegoated by corporations and powers-that-be to absolve them of responsibility. It seems like many people are more focused on the "intelligence" side and less on the "artificial" part. When AI gets treated like some all-knowing autonomous being, it's easier to point at it when something goes wrong and go "Look, it was the computer's fault!" and ignore the fact that those faults are entirely the product of human decisions and engineering. Who gets to decide when AI is deployed? And what data sets it gets fed?
Thank you guys for not tip-toeing around the Mormon issue. I'm exmormon and was raised in what exmormons sometimes call Morridor (the Mormon corridor) and I firmly believe it is a cult. I get real annoyed when creators act like the LDS church is just another religion with good and bad people in it, as if the very doctrine and leadership of the church isn't foundational to the toxic cult culture that surrounds it.
Good to see a fellow exmo among the Sad Boyz crowd! I'm also an ex-mormon from Bountiful, UT and I totally agree with you. More people familiar with the Mormon church need to call it out as a cult so that uninformed people don't get sucked in by missionaries. While there are good Mormon people, that doesn't change the fact that the church itself is a corrupt corporation that hoards wealth and power and hold immense control over people's minds.
idk if this helps you at all but i’ve noticed as an american who lives overseas, the rest of the world generally thinks mormonism is a weird cult. it’s a very american thing to think that mormonism is normal should be accepted as a real religion. many, many people agree with you about it being a cult they’re just few and far between in america.
Bryan Johnson’s situation just feels like a case study in why treating mental health as an important aspect of your health would benefit not only individuals but society as a whole.
From everything he’s done with his son to perpetuating this lifestyle as a means of dealing with mental health issues, it’s causing harm. It is imperative that we keep pushing for mental health to be openly discussed and effectively evaluated by healthcare professionals because he’s not the only one causing harm because of an inability to accept and understand their own emotions. If more issues were caught early on, if more people went to therapy even if they don’t have a mental illness and learned how to regulate, and how their actions affect others, if people were able to understand and be treated for whatever may be going on with less judgement, then we wouldn’t have a lot of the problems were currently facing. Obviously it wouldn’t solve everything, but mental health, hyper-individualism, and emotional instability are huge aspects of many societal problems.
Don’t worry our lord and savior harambe will help
I find it interesting that Brian Johnson, in his quest of trying not to age and die, is now dealing with this question of "How do I make myself healthy? What counts as metrics for being 'healthy'?" because now his experiments cover all sorts of things that society thinks what health is, when in fact most are probably just social constructs (e.g. having a lot of muscle, getting erection or not, etc.)
Personally, I feel like Jarvis is the consistent variable when it comes to an intro and Jordan is the one to make it a little different. For lack of a better example I can compare it to the end of the Fairly Odd Parents intro that changes Vicky's head to something a little different each time it's that little bit of variation that keeps it a little fresh. What im saying is that i enjoy Jordan just improvising his intros
I'm not sure what it is about it, but I love this comment so much
anastasia has an ex husband ?!?( 46:10 ) her lore goes crazy omg
I was thinking the same thing lol
Her lore just gets deeper and crazier every episode lmao
None of us have a single unique experience because Anastasia had them all already
Every episode (nightz included) there's just something new like
You guys actually believe Anastasia exists?? 😂😂😂
I probably had the pod on last night while I was sleeping cause I dreamt of you guys, and Jordan took my phone to install some sort of spyware on it to prove I had a crush on Jarvis
i can't believe he would betray you like that smh 😔
that’s some jordan shit lmao
I actually am quite concerned about how AI is gonna be used in education, largely on the student end. Like we've all heard the complaint from maths students that "We have calculators, why would we ever need to learn this?"
Soon enough i think we're gonna approach a point where people are saying "Why should I write this short story/essay/analysis, AI can do it for me", ignoring the critical point that we're taught these things because they broaden the ways in which we think and help us in our personal and professional lives to construct things in a particular way. Same as maths, we're taught it because it teaches you patterns of thought that can be helpful in your day to day life, as well as important skills if you do pursue a career in that field.
oh, yeah, I fear that as well. I’ve gone back to uni for a second degree and everybody in my classes is about ten years younger than me. a lot of them use chatgpt for everything, from asking about stuff that you can easily google or look up in the lecture notes, to coming up with essay style answers for both group and individual projects, as well as to outsource their personal reflections. it’s… it’s something. 🫥
My brother was just in a literature course (UPPER level, too, like a 300s class, at a massive State University) and the professor took a poll by raise of hands to see who was against the use of AI in writing their essay assignments, and my brother was one of TWO people opposed to it, and I guess classes are just democracies now, because the majority rules there and the professor said it would be allowed. I would've thought this testimony was fake if it wasn't coming from my own brother. It's wild. I got my degree in 2017 so it's been a while since I was in a class or involved in academics, so it's wild for me to hear how much things have changed.
@@zenleeparadiseEverypne is actually going to not know how to do things :(
@@Khronogi it's so bizarre how many people seem to be just ok with that, though. I feel people that are sad about this are in the minority - myself and my brother included in the sad bunch. He's changing to a STEM major after encountering this attitude so much in the English department. As a person with a Liberal Arts degree it's so confusing to me that things got like this so fast, but we should've seen the lack of full novels being assigned in lower level English classes as the canary in the coalmine. It all started with "No Fear Shakespeare" and Sparknotes. Should've absolutely never been allowed in academia.
I'm in medical school and people use ChatGPT to answer questions for them or to explain things they don't understand. I do NOT trust it since it hallucinates so much. We have so many ebooks and guidelines available to us as students, if I have a question I'll look it up any of the resources that my uni provides.
Case in point for hallucinations, there's an antibody called anti-CCP, a friend asked ChatGPT what the role of anti-CCP was in rheumatoid arthritis and ChatGPT said it was an antibody against the Chinese Communist Party :/
Jordan making a great point about the POV of corporations in the USA when he said they would rather you argue with an AI than argue with them.
This is, essentially, the same concept as customer service departments. With a small business or with traditional communication from the 20th century you could be wronged by someone and physically speak with a decision maker to argue or ask for restitution.
Companies don't like that. So it started with customer service reps/front desk people/etc. Then that evolved into teams and a manager, then an entire department, then email based "we will call you" forms, then they took phone numbers out of their website contact pages, now it's AI.
They are removing the layers of accountability between leadership and the customer and replacing them with walls. It's the same thing these mega corps want to do with their work force by contracting out services to other companies and only employing leadership positions directly.
Super well-put observation.
16:02 my mom likes to say “one person poops their pants and we all have to wear diapers” but I feel like corporations never have to wear the diapers when they shit on us
That's because we only have to wear the diapers if the corporations have created a fear campaign around possible poopy pants and monetized the diapers...
Flawless title, never change it
i feel like brian johnson has aged like 10 years in two years. like the weirder the anti-aging experiments get, somehow the older he looks lmfao
Thats the thing isn't it, he looks undeniably *different* to how he did before he started all this, but certainly not younger
He's definitely got the Dorian Grey going on
He "looks" young, but he's in the decade of his 40's or 50's. He looks creepy and not natural!
Anastasia’s lore is so deep, i love every crumb that she gives us
As an exmo I love when people you’d never think would talk about Mormonism get talk about it, it’s just interesting to me to hear outside perspectives on it
I also left a very extreme insular religion and I'm envious of this experience. No one's ever unexpectedly talking about Orthodox Judaism (in a way I'd be interested to listen to anyway 😂).
Yes, it is extremely validating to me to hear people talk about the church as this crazy, strange, and toxic thing. The fact that people that weren't raised Mormon don't even take the church seriously and call it out as a cult helps me stop gaslighting myself about how bad my upbringing actually was.
@ I feel like it only recently started happening with Mormonism, so hopefully the same will happen with others 😭💜
i was worried i was gonna get ready for friday night without sad boyz
23:16 NO I LOVE IT WHEN YOU GET SUPER TECHNICAL AND EXPLAIN THE INS AND OUTS OF EVERYTHINGGG
im literally so tired of seeing ai slop everywhere im so serious to give a recent example cheritz the dev of mystic messenger tweets it out like it's nothing and no one will notice? ok
I swear it feels like everything, just everything has been replaced with AI slop. Like can we go back to photoshopping things for funny images? Please? Or editing videos?
This was not a place I’d expect to see anyone mention mysmes. But also I’m not surprised Cheritz has done that. I fell off their stuff ages ago, I didn’t like their new stuff, but I’ve seen other mobile otome titles do similar stuff.
please man i hate how ai images bury real images. why do we need to generate ai pictures of regular butterflies etc when they already exist?????
I personally like the somewhat informal chaos of the intro, makes it feel more genuine :)
Jordan please open more often. Brought me a stupid amount of joy
Bryan Johnson feels kind of like an extreme almond mom…or maybe that’s just me
If an almond mom had unlimited funds
As an ex eating disordered person, I agree. They all give anorexia vibes and an underlying terror of eating the wrong thing, so eating nothing is better.
My husband studies a master degree in AI... One of the biggest parts of his course, is ethics.. but, it someone put profit over ethics, there's nothing the people with ethics can do... You can't put toothpaste back in the tube
We don't have ethics in this country anymore. :(
I for one am in favor of Jarvis getting technical more often
You don't learn as well if everything is just explained to you every time. The actual struggle to remember or figure it out causes your brain to work and remember.
i appreciate the gangly weirdo with bad bones (ouch!) representation this podcast provides. also very excited to watch you guys on um actually this season
Brian Johnson is a modern version of eccentric Victorian gentlemen, aka insane
watching this show in the perfect conditions: under my blankets (with an electric one on top) soft lighting in the room, cup of bedtime tea and an oatmeal square, and just a little bit high
I really liked Lily Alexandre's essay on Brian, she touches onto the religious aspect of his influence and lifestyle at the end, too. It's a fascinating watch and really well made!
the title is so foreboding-you spent so long talking about all his other shit while i was just thinking “AND he tracks his sons erections???”
Brian Johnson (the liver king) and Bryan Johnson (the immortal guy) should team up
The boyz always post when I’m already watching their videos, they must be telepathic, that’s the only logical explanation🤷♀️
As someone who also grew up mormon, that olive oil thing is very much a leftover from that. It's basically Mormon holy water
i love jarvis talking about technical tech stuff!!!! it is interesting, and opinions hold more weight when people clearly know what they're talking about. most importantly it is interesting
you cant just say that title and not expect me to click
My dad has talked about this guy before but I feel like this isn’t a follow up I will be discussing with him. At least not of my own will
I’ve literally had that “indefinite vacation will cure me” thought process 😂
i love this podcast's entire....dramatis personae: jarvis, jordan and the angelic voice in the background
Wolfram Alpha already exists, we don't need chatgpt to explain math
Really good episode. Appreciated the bit about mentioning the differences in energy used by the competing AIs, especially with the increase of unprecedented climate emergencies. Also, the trigger / activation warnings were appreciated. And I mean in dealing with trauma there are healthy and unhealthy coping mechanisms and the extremity of it matters too. It really does seem like like he dove into continuing to dehumanize himself after the abuse instead of choosing to humanize himself, which does take a tremendous amount of effort and time. Also, thank you for talking about the cult and the ex stuff involved. Also also...yeah Jordan is right. Pretending you don't have emotions or if you are getting abused and are not allowed to show your emotions can make you physically ill in various ways over time. Duration and intensity being large factors. As well as the amount of support you received during and after those times.
At 56:47 someone hits their mic and I literally thought something had fallen in my house somewhere 😂 My new headphones are revealing sounds I’ve never heard before.
the deepseek sad boyz intro genuinely gave me secondhand embarrassment so intense i broke out into hives. i was sweating.
Jarvis’ Jason Statham is a perfect Jarvis impersonating Richard Ayoade impersonating Jason Statham
in Japanese, Godzilla is referred to with a neutral gender pronoun. it is only in the English translation that Godzilla is assigned a gender (male).
i like love when jarvis explains the technical side of tech things always interesting ❤️ keep doing it :)
Pitch pipe 😂😂 my brain was screaaaminggggg lol. I can’t think of pitch pipe and not also think “I can see your toner through your jeans”
Title raises the eyebrows for sure
Humbly requesting a pod that is just the lore of Anastasia
i just moderately injured my forearm trying to get in my college dorm bunk bed im so excited for this video i need this
jordan this is HUGE i’ve never heard of anyone else snapping in the same fucked up way that i do
the lighting of this episode is incredible, bingo will be lovely today i can feel it in my bones
5:50 ok but dump trucks are in right now- at least the ppl i watch. CDawgVA, Ludwig, all these ppl have the ENTIRE BAKERY. Especially Lud. I’m genuinely so jealous, because there’s this huge butt gene that skipped right by me, the one who WANTS the hourglass figure. Instead it went to my brother 😭
Has he not heard of sunscreen?? He can avoid having full days out in the sun but otherwise just put on a good amount of sun screen
My internet is really bad right now and the video wasn't playing for a good 30 seconds before I realized it was buffering instead of you guys just doing a weird bit
The boys being sponsored by the gays is the best thing in the world. Thank you sad boys for being so inclusive and amazing
23:22 I love the technical stuff, Jarvis explains it so well
Make a side channel if you have to. Some of us are here for it!
Would be awesome to have Jarvis hit the techy channel after starting originally that way@@ScottCalvinsClause
jarvis whistle goes CRAZY
I wish mental health held more importance and less stigma in the lds church. As a member, its hard to see how people's identities become so wrapped up in the church that they don't have anything outside of it. I am grateful my parents tried to teach me about growing my identity and having church principles as an additional benefit to my life.
I wish more people in my church could see things in a broader perspective because agreeing with things blindly and not trying to understand the world outside of the church is what leads people to believe it is a cult. In truth, we are supposed to question if it is right and have faith to trust that everything will work out for our good, like any other Christian denomination. Joseph Smith's whole story is about questioning if it is right or not.
I always appreciate hearing peoples perspectives, especially since I love this podcast. I'm glad they talked about it because it is important, and more people should be aware of it in multiple religious settings.
(Please dont comment if you want to hate on my religion. I won't be responding to negative comments.)
One in accuracy, and it's nit picky but we don't go to church every day. The most I was going to church was as a youth and that was twice a week. And the midweek gathering was mostly fun.
4:00 Why is he lowkey goated
Anastasia is the emodiment of "I know a guy" but she is the guy.
As someone with a Hank Hill ass, you know not what you wish for. Pancake ass is a curse!
1:19:26 talking as someone raised for 17 years in the mormon church: very much yes. it's such an enormous part of your life, literally your entire community, and you've been taught it's the only thing making you a good person, which is what makes leaving so difficult and leaves a HUGE hole when you do. I don't know if Brian also grew up in the church, but for the son at least, there's an insane level of indoctrination and psychological manipulation when you don't know anything but the church. and if he went straight from the church to his dad, then he probably sees those as the only two options
A lot of this stuff makes sense as a sort of overcorrection of church teachings. Being ok with his dad posting his erection data, well at least an adult in his life is acknowledging sexuality in any other context than porn addiction. And Brian's obsession with slowing his aging is very reflective of the emphasis the church puts on eternal life after death for you and your family.
23:22 Get 👏 in 👏 the 👏 weeds! 👏
Please, Jarvis, you're our only hope!
WOAH, I've been binging your videos and this is my first new one. LETS GOOOOO
he does all this and he's only five years younger than he should be? i used to do coke for two meals a day and according to my doctor i'm three years younger biologically than i should be
He grew up to be Like Joseph Smith just like he wanted
The thing to point out about "they used open ai data" is 1. Open ai stole a lot of that data, or else these big companies just snuck it into user agreements and they took it. It was never their data.
And 2. Perhaps more importantly, open AI has their own data and they didn't make a model as efficient with that data. It's hard to say they stole from you when they made something better
A pod episode on my bday?? Fookin' minttt 👌
I have heard the warnings about Balatro's deleterious effects on a person's life from everyone and their mama (and also their dental hygienist, plus every train conductor in NYC??)
And yet...every time one of the boyz mentions that app, I get closer and closer to making that $9.99 deal with the devil.
"it's that wii fit game, you sit on it" deserved so much more laughter omg
feeling very seen because I also have long fucked up fingers and snap exactly how Jordan demonstrated
1 view in 9 seconds? the boys fell off😔
Do you mean a cliff are you threatening them?
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dude its 2025 💔
love this shit
this format of comment in the big 2025 ☹️
Is no one going to mention that the Liver King’s name is ALSO Bryan Johnson!?!?
1:01:45 Everyone, pls don't skip pass their ad reads so Jarvis can get some new socks😂
34:20 "A guy falsely accused of being murdered..." a what now?
I need a compliation of every time Anastasia drops some crazy lore😊
WUNDERBAR‼️‼️
how’s it going sad men
you know you're a man when you call yourself a depression guy
Bryan Johnson seems like a guy who read a Batman comic - and all the writers generic ways of how Bruce Wayne reached peak physical condition - noticed that Bruce seems to never age, then decided to do that irl without realising it's a piece of fiction written by comic book writers, not health/wellbeing professionals
Jarvis you did the multiple finger snap as I was doing it and I've never felt more parasocially connected to an individual than that moment lol
i work in medical research ethics and medical research related AI is being heavily regulated and prepared for behind the scenes from an ethical regulatory standpoint
The boyz are back!
Jarvis! I like when you talk "in the weeds" tech stuff because I never listen to anyone else talk about it, and I like listening to you talk.
absolutely insane title 😭
the more i hear about what bryan does/doesnt do, the sadder it gets
The lighting on this episode is top notch.
i’ve never heard of anyone wishing they had a hank hill butt lmao adsfdgdg,, i just thought ppl universally across all gender expressions typically enjoy being at least a lil caked up. i would kill for a nicer/more round and full tushy. so it just goes to show how insecurities we presume everyone inherently shares are just unique to each person and that someone can genuinely like something about you or your appearance/presentation even if its the last thing you’re able to be confident about.
We need a video compilation of sad boyz cold opens 😂😂😂 welcome to sad boyz. Home of the sad boyz. Can I make you laugh? 🎉🎉🎉
I genuinely appreciated the podcast feature as one of the ads? I know they may not be as lucrative, but I feel like that's a form of community in the podcast sphere that I've been missing lately.
Not me thinking I can fix Bryan Johnson by just being his homie
around 14:00 talk about AI, i super disagree that it's helpful to learn how to solve math equations because it can explain that to you or whatever, because it just pulls that information from somewhere else online likley without the origional authors permission, theres examples of AI basically just lifting whole paragraphs with no credits given, not to mention that it lies all the time, and theres no way to know if its just making it up or not
Also, isn’t that what Teachers are for? To help to learn (at least in school)
I also disagree with using AI here. As a teacher, I'd much rather have my students come to me with a question like this because
A) I can identify what specific misconception or missing skill they're dealing with and help them focus on that and
B) If ten of my students all have that same question, I'd rather take a quick pause to talk about it with the whole class rather than soldiering on while some students are lost.