@@grandarkfang_1482 I wasnt a fan of how Thrawn was characterized in Rebels Like how Dooku was made another generic mustache twirling villain in the Clone Wars cartoon.
Kinda reminds me of how the Prequels made Vader the Chosen One of Star Wars when he was just a guy who was good at his job. It's the real world creeping into the storytelling.
So in summary, Human beings are fragile enough that being slapped in the helmet will completely incapacitate them, but durable enough that being run though by a plasma blade is only a minor inconvenience? R.I.P. Qui-Gon for losing the gene-pool lottery, I guess.
Female human beings are able toughen their torsos on a monthly basis, through the use of period cramps. This is the reason why Qui-Gon died, but Sabine was able to just sleep it off.
I'd say it's remarkable that not a single person pointed out during production that maybe messing around with explosives in a city hospital isn't a very heroic thing to do, but that would imply these corporate drones have ever considered the wellbeing of others in their lives.
@@CrustlessKingFrom what I heard about Hollywood paying activists to block roads, ain't a suprise they'd think hacking a bomb in a hospital is heroic.
Remember the scene in Phantom Menace were Quigon was casually cutting through a metal door? And than when the trade federation closed the blast doors he just pushed it in further and the hole thing started liquifying within seconds? Apparently Sabine is more resistant to lightsabers than a meter thick hunk of reinforced metal intended to withstand explosions.
Remember when quigon was stabbed with a red glowy thing and he decided to die because he didn't like obiwan, told obiwan to go fuck himself and just to make sure obiwans life is shit he forced him into being a father. I swear at this point it should be cannon that quigon had severe space cancer and because of the stress of fighting Darth maul he dies. Because these retards clearly established that lightsabers are toys
Mauler is correct in noticing that the in-universe Thrawn-wank in this show is extremely silly. _We_ think Thrawn is cool because he was a pragmatic genius mastermind that very nearly ended the New Republic, but that was in a story Disney very deliberately declared non-canon. The characters in the show treat him the same way _we_ do despite this version of Thrawn just being a somewhat-competent blue guy whose career was largely defined by being dabbed on in Rebels and abducted by space whales. Nobody explains exactly how they expect Thrawn will return them to glory, and we already know whatever they do doesnt work because the Sequel Trilogy happens after this. Also, hi Rags.
Also, that story gave Thrawn a lot of tools, he wasn't just fighting with rubber bands. He had a fleet of starships, he had an army of clones to help man his ships, and he found a lost fleet to bolster his numbers. He rallied the remnants of the Empire behind his leadership. He had a top secret bug relaying him information directly outside the Senate Floor. He had a band of legendary assassins answerable only to him. He discovered a force-resistant species of drop-bears. He wasn't magically a threat to the Republic simply by existing, he was a smart adversary who made use of many resources. He found innovative ways to use cloaking technology and gravity generators. He was tactically and strategically savvy, and an inspiring leader to his men.
@@TheNoonishI mean even the novels with Thrawn that are canon are still good, they somewhat nerf him to where he isn’t as good as politics as he is commanding fleets. And since they expand on the Chiss Ascendancy, hypothetically he could have resources with a fleet of Chiss ships, which would be so fucking COOL seeing a hybrid Imperial Chiss fleet. But they won’t do that, they’re too stuck on hearing “oh, he’s a space Sun Tzu, ok and Sun Tzu is seen as a god of war I think, so that must mean Thrawn is just some god right?”
@@snakeguy8646 They're trying to turn him into some kind of mythical figure. In the books, by the end of the series, he was legendary even in the republic for his tactical sense, like Rommel was to his adversaries. But Thrawn wasn't taken down in an epic face to face duel with a lightsaber, he was done in by a dude with a knife. This is a world-building problem. If they showed a universe where the Empire was very much still intact and actively fighting against the Republic, having Thrawn show up could swing the battle. But they're not fighting at all and acting as if simply having Thrawn be there will give them the power to fight, suddenly. If we had a sense that the Empire was in a long, losing war but it could be turned around by a competent commander, it would be a big deal. Our heroes shouldn't be hunting down Thrawn, they should be fighting the Empire. Their win condition isn't preventing Thrawn's return, it's destroying the Empire's ability to war war.
@@TheNoonish Yeah this goes all the way to Jakku and Cinder as a world building problem, having the Empire kill itself and die quickly was just lazy, the EU turning it into a long war of attrition handled it way better, and if they kept it would have made it so much easier for Disney to make stories, now they just keep pulling shit out of their ass
@@snakeguy8646 That reminds me... did Filoni consult Timothy Zahn on the scripts he wrote for this show? Zahn wrote the new canon Thrawn novels, so it would be utterly bizarre if Filoni had access to his ideas and just didn't bother.
Finding Thrawn is like someone looking for Napoleon, but the British put the map to Alba in an Aztec temple with puzzles. The idea of someone who went into exile fairly recently and having it portrayed like it's some sort of ancient quest is B.S. This is the Wayfinder dagger rubbish.
The only way I see to square this circle is to conjecture that the second galaxy depicted in the map must be the only other one to which the space whales were known to be able to travel (though that doesn't exclude the possibility of others), and that knowledge of this map's existence and what this map is supposed to depict and this map's secured location was all preserved, but not the actual contents of the map itself. Therefore the map was not created explicitly to provide the purported location of Thrawn and Ezra, it was made to provide the location of another now-forgotten galaxy which is merely one potential (incredibly expansive) location that the space whales may have taken them. I still don't think this slots into what the show tells us but I don't think there's any other way to justify the characters seeking out this ancient map and coming to these conclusions.
@@CrustlessKing TBH, I'm not watching the show or know anything about rebels. I was only assuming that he was sent into exile from clips I have seen. I'm guessing you know a fair amount more about the story. But how is there a map if Thrawn was taken by space Whales to another galaxy or knows where he is?
In Heir to the Empire, nobody knew who Thrawn was. The Republic was always under the assumption that all the Grand Admirals were dead. Thrawn was always kept a secret because he wasn't a human, and non-humans weren't allowed in the Empire.
I genuinely cannot understand why people would like this version of Sabine. In two episodes, she ditched a celebration of the heroes of the city, threatened the life of a pilot by speeding into his ship before dipping last minute, stole confidential information that a JEDI wasn't able to notice/sense, and casually attempted hacking essentially a bomb in a hospital. Also, remember when Finn, a non-force user, fought Kylo, a sith who has trained for years, and got his shoulder knicked and his back slashed. Those two wounds caused Finn to lose consciousness and had to be put in a whole ass bacta suit or whatever. Meanwhile, Sabine gets straight up stabbed in the liver, lung, etc. and she is bouncing up and down on the bed, walking around like nothing is wrong. No. I'm just remembering Clay Morrow from Sons of Anarchy who got shot in the chest and he required an oxygen tank, had a raggedy voice, and was wheezing for a whole season and a half.
Because normies (particularly female ones) eat up the "cool" wamen with a borderline psychopathic disregard for responsibility and other people. Even in current year.
Sabine wasn't even a good character in rebels, come to think of it, none of the characters in rebels were good. Kanan was the only one somewhat tolerable
i realized why sabine ditching the celebration seemed so stupid and it finally clicked, it's because it was more like a funeral. so it's like she skipped a funeral for her brother because she was upset her brother wasn't going to be there. thats like the dumbest explanations for doing that you could possibly concieve
If I was gonna rewrite the show, I'd have it where Sabine is off supporting some time-sensitive mission to help some people (hostage situation, natural disaster, etc.), and have it brought up that Sabine didn't need to go to that mission, and it's clear she's just disrespecting the governor who set up the celebration; but the oldman who knows her clarifies it -- "her absence is not for lack of care; she's burying her sorrow in her work". Have it justified that it was an emergency that she threw herself into to help out with, anything to find something else to think about, to keep busy. But still acknowledge that it was an evasive behavior that was disrespectful whether she intended it or not. You DON'T just cut to her riding a bike towards fucking nothing lol
Considering the Rebels S4 ending monologue says that she feels that Ezra charged her with defending the people of Lothal......this memorial IS service to the people of Lothal. She has more reason not to skip it.
You could obviously have her do this without her being an asshole-show her having an emotion over it. They mentioned she was at the memorial earlier, you could show her looking at the mural, getting teary-eyed, and then dashing off. Then she could be a decent person and APOLOGIZE about how she couldn't handle being there because there's a loss she can't bear. Instead you show her blasting star-wars techno on her motorcycle and coyly saying, "Oh, that was today?" after she was said to be AT the memorial, and then fleeing people who wanted her there. Why? I can only assume it's to make it impossible for the audience to sympathize with her.
Demanding to see the records of some facility because your a general, is the same as Some navy commander demanding to know the McDonald’s secret formula
We used to. WHen Season 7 of the Clone Wars hit and The Clone Wars were finished. To be fair, it is one of my fond memories that something like that happened, something was resurrected and we got the conclusion. It was made for the fans. However, season 7 for me is like 7/10 first 4 episodes, 2/10 the next 4 episodes, and 10/10 last 4 episodes. I did not think, that in his live action debut, he would go with the style of that BS 2/10 style. of the 2nd arc of S7. I saw some cranks during Rebels already. But he seemed to get the important stuff right. Not anymore. So now I am sad. And looking for the little things. Like the music at the end of episode 5 of this show. That was pretty cool and triumphant, I liked that.
Something funny is that even frickin Cosmonaut Variety Hour made a joke about Sabine being force sensitive and that it is the only thing that could make her any more of a Mary Sue.
Watched another few minutes and got to Rags making a joke that Cosmonaut also made about Sabine, that she feels like a character you would make for an RPG or that she is just THE DRAGON BORN
Andor low level worker drone: "I just want to get through my day and earn enough to buy some blue milk for my children." Ahsoka low level worker drone:: " _FOR THE EMPRAAAAAH!_ "
Screaming "For the EMPRAH!" would at least give him the bonus of righteous fury to ignore fatal wounds in the face of heretics. Yelling "For the Empire" after the Empire has fallen is pretty sad though.
@@Bannschwert It's dumber in new canon context, because of Operation Cinder. The Empire went out of their way to punish......pro-Imperial planet by destroying them via weather satellite.
Everything at the shipyard was so bad it's hard to put in to words. "Hey I'm a General, tell me everything I want to know or I will make this an official inspection." "Okay, make it official. If you're a General then I don't want to be seen skipping procedure because that will get me in trouble." "I'm a General so nothing is confidential to me. Definitely not about the navy." "Oh, so you meant to say you're an Admiral and might actually have some authority over the navy? Also I'm still not breaking procedure."
Count down until the Disnoids shriek: "It's in a Galaxy Far Far Away! You don't know! They clearly work differently than we do! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!" Everyone else - "No wonder the New Republic was destroyed so easily by the First Order. The New Republic was incompetent."
@@countof3everybodyODThe fundamental structure of the biggest government and military body in the galaxy is a nitpick? We literally just came out of a rebellion and a regime change, a restructuring of society from an empire to a Republic, does that just not matter anymore? Wtf would be a big issue for you? If a teletubby shaped death star popped out of a black hole? Would your brain say "wait a minute, what's going on here, I have some questions" then?
I hate how the show explicitly tells us that Ezra's lightsaber is no longer his. I felt as if the show reached a grubby hand through my television screen, grabbed me by the ear, and said, "It's Sabine's lightsaber now".
KEEP DAVE FILONI AWAY FROM ALL HOSPITALS. Arming a bomb in a CITY HOSPITAL was one of the dumbest things in Filoni SW. The self destruct of the droids was seen as a small nuclear bomb. Even if this explosion wasn’t nuclear, our female protagonists willingly risking everyone in the hospital and in a city was BARBARIC! And Hera, a military general told them to “Go for it”?
We always get the same thing with Dave Filioni when he scratches the surface of good world building. The Empire quest giver talking about all the benefits the Empire gives, the old separatist guy actively supporting democracy. And now we are asked how a entire workforce of lower class workers slaving away in a random shipyard could possibly have any loyalty remaining for the Empire and the only answer we can be given is "Greed." There is so much more to explore here in question to the loyalty of everyday citizens of the galaxy.
And then in _Tales of the Jedi_ Dooku and Qui-Gon showing up to rescue a hostage end up siding with the guerilla captors _against_ the governor they were tasked with helping, based on . . . the guerillas being poor and the governor seeming like a douche. . .
You're right, MauLer, Thrawn became popular because he was a competent, interesting antagonist well-presented in the books that introduced him. The funny part is, there's a later duology of books that's based around the memetic status he subsequently gained in-universe, and the problems inherent in that. The overblown "Thrawn will return!" hype is an *in universe* plot point, causing both Imperial remnants and excitable New Republicans to act in certain arguably counterproductive ways. So not only was Thrawn a good character but the books even played with the unrealistic hyping of him as a significant flaw of other characters... Disney didn't take notes...
@@lordvarrax5060 Spectre of the Past and Vision of the Future, by the same author. A decent sequel to the Thrawn Trilogy, especially since it's based around the *idea* of Thrawn, and the unrealistic expectations people on both sides have about him.
@@matthewcollins4773God, the irony of it all, considering Zahn himself, at least in later years, and certainly nowadays, has more or less not just drinked his own kool-aid, but slammed it back and asked for seconds. Thrawn in the EU as time went on gradually just got more and more hilariously, stupidly god-like and wankish.
In rebels, she got lightsaber training. Specifically because she had the dark saber and needed to learn how to wield it as you can be challenged to a duel with it. She then fought another mandolorian in a saber duel. However, the beauty of those scenes in that show was the point that she did lack force powers. So she had to do things a bit differently, and it had alot to do with her character. Not just "mando with saber is super coooool"
Like the last Jedi fight, the more you watch it, the worse it gets. The sith lady spins around so slowly, and Sabine simply stands there waiting to be stabbed, absolute crap.
And worse, once she was stabbed she refused to bring her lightsaber down on the blonde lady when it was being held just above her head. Blonde lady put herself in a suicidal position to kill Sabine, then refused to finish the job. Absolute piss show
I'm starting to think that being stabbed in the gut is the equivelant of putting on handcuffs. It's the star wars version of surrendering cause everyone knows you're not gonna die, you're just bored of fighting.
@@woketree21 Sabine could have sliced Sith lady in half if she wanted, but "Oh no, I've been stabbed! I'm so shocked by that my arms are frozen above my head!"
Poor guy had to see this crap with the boys, entertaining us with their wit. Then had to see these scenes again and again to make this bearable to watch. I salute you Fringy.
All you care about is that gd generator, don't you? Are you the one telling Fringy's kids about his heroic sacrifice in the lower levels? How he was engulfed in toxic fumes and about your refusal to seal the source off to save him? What is a city without morals!?!
"Why don't they just reuse the old star destroyers?" oh Rags, Disney reconnected those out of existence along with all frontal lobes. Also, when rags said the Eye of Sion I thought he was joking and spat my drink when they lady said it.
that lightsaber went into her liver and out a lung. that’s not just something you walk off. it’s also seared due to the heat so it can’t just heal. she doesn’t even seem to be bothered by it the wound the next day. Kenobi getting a small graze from Dooku was treated more significant than this.
Interesting that mention attack of the Clones. Because it's strange that it just caused a few deep cuts in Kenobi's arm and leg. Not impossible just a bit dubious. Obi-Wan's treatment wasn't shown during AoTC. Kenobi's treatment wasn't explicitly shown at the end of Episode II. But at least every step afterwards was painful for him and he slowly limp away. Anakin even was going to marry Padmé in the same week presumably?? Glad Sabine survived she is definitely an "unique" Mando girl. Ahsoka never should have trusted her with the golden ball.
I mean, if their plan was just to incapacitae Sabine, they could have taken some inspiration from prequel clone wars where Dooku just gave the heroes flesh wounds (and a chopped off limb) where the shock caused by the pain would make them stay down for a while and require medical assistence, rather than straight up gut the character in a VERY vital area and cover it in plot armor so that it survives the whole trip to the hospital to be maybe saved.....I mean, she clearly lived in a very isolate place that took a fucking while to reach even by ship, yet she survived something that ended Qui-gon in seconds for long enough so that Ashoka could arrive, drag her sorry ass to the ship and still take quite some time on the travel back before reaching an hospital, where she would still need to be taken to a doctor in god knows what floor to then start the procedure of healing whatever was damaged. And the worse thing is that an shit-eater Disney star wars fan will just come out with some silly what-aboutism pointing to other sure death instances where characters survived (as if we didn´t think they were shit as well) and that those should give a free pass for this one as well, rather than acnowledge it was shitty writing.
I can empathize to a certain extent with big fans of Rebels and Clone Wars being excited about getting a live-action show with their characters that they really like. However, I can’t for the life of me understand why they’re so overjoyed by it when the show does a massive disservice to what character was there to begin with. There’s no effort to make them intelligent or consistent, and yet so many people are praising this show to high heaven. I’d think that the people who love these characters would have higher standards for them. How is it that those of us who don’t have much of an existing background knowledge of these characters have higher standards for them than the people who’ve adored them for years?
As a Clone Wars and Rebels fan I was happy of the IDEA of the show, but it's execution has a lot to be desired, to say the least, thankfully I have a friend in our watch party of the series who echoes all my complaints as we see every enjoyable element of both series be ignored for this new shite
Sadly, many fans of those shows have the mentality of literal infants and will clap at anything vaguely familiar. There is a chunk who understand that this is shit and live action key jangling isn’t enough
The funny thing is (Spoilers for Episode 5) that the young life action version of Ahsoka has so much more emotions than this one. Filoni just thinks stoic characters are the hight of coolness and that's why nobody is allowed to actually emote and act.
@@akashajones6079 Calm the fuck down there, Tipper Gore. People've been saying the same thing about Jon Favreau having a Mando sex doll. Nothing new. Don't bury yourself trying to dig any deeper.
One point to note is that being stabbed in the abdomen region also takes out your core muscles. You use those for just about everything, from breathing to running. If you want a real example of these being cut open and stitched together, go ask a woman to go running after a C-section birth. You're practically bedridden for a while for recovery. Even cutting through small parts of your core muscles leave a while for recovery, simply due to what they are used for.
Having had an two abdominal surgeries, I can absolutely attest that everything from sitting up, getting out of bed, walking, standing, sitting, breathing and lifting a glass of milk was a ponderous and painful process for weeks after each operation.
I love how Hera's whole thing over Rebels and this show, yet she consistently has one tactic of "fly straight at the enemy" and that is seen as being a godlike pilot in this universe.
I don’t even remember Ahsoka and Sabine having a one on one conversation in Rebels, when did they form this master and apprentice relationship? Sabine did train with a lightsaber in Rebels, but Ahsoka wasn’t even there..
Exactly, even at the end of Rebels where I saw they were teaming up I was like "Wait, really? These two?" I just don't get why someone like Luke isn't here instead
And the edge of the dagger will line up with an entire arm of the new galaxy he was taken to, and point to the exact star and planet where he can be found, after five minutes of aimless searching.
As somone who just recently had a GI surgery, I can say that you cannot be moving around on your own so soon after some serious abdominal trauma. And my physical trauma was not quite as serious as being ran through with hot plasma
In the BOOKS, Thrawn actually was just cool for cools sake. His backstory was that he was the only person in the Empire who was allowed to veto the Emperor on matters of military strategy. (He was the only person who disagreed with the viability of a planetary invasion plan the Emperor had proposed, and when the invasion failed the Emperor decided he would listen to Thrawn in the future.) But he earned his coolness beyond his backstory because of the character he was shown to be. He believed in the cause of the Empire, he fought to achieve his goals, he acted as a foil to the heroes, and his defeat was a consequence of his actions. He had personality, and quirks, and gravitas. He was a good character, he was a good villain. Rebels was a pale imitation, and everyone still clinging to hope in this franchise is just waiting for him to be introduced in some post credit scene level cameo in this garbage show so he can be a terribly written character in a movie that likely won't even get made? We have reached the meme. Don't ask questions. Just consume product and get excited for next product. People who believe Thrawn will save star wars should have to compensate the rest of us for the air they waste.
At this point, Disney should full-on parody the lethality of lightsabers by having someone UTTERLY diced in one scene, in PIECES, then appear totally fine two scenes later with a line like "Luckily the authorities found me in time to administer some medical aid" or "A little bit of bacta goes a long way."
The bombs in episode 1 were visible as external and attached to the robot torsos. There was no bomb in the robot heads, there was no bomb in the hospital ever. Just a robot head that might blow up.
@@esotericVideos Hera: What happens if you get the power levels wrong? Sabine: The head will explode. Huyang: Perhaps we should perform this operation somewhere else. Hera: I say go for it. Huyang: Because you're a hologram. It doesn't matter whether the head was a bomb or not. The characters in the show believed it was.
Anyone notice 22:03 how as Ahsoka stabs the robot assassin, the hole is expanding based on little movements from her light saber and/or the robots movements. but when they show sabines wound in the hospital its the exact width of the light saber. its interesting that neither sabine nor darth chihuahua lady moved not even an inch to cause sabines wound to get bigger and cause more internal damage, as she was being stabbed by a damn light saber!!!!
What if she ripped half her torso or made a substantial wound? You don't even have to show it directly, just use sounds and keep a close up on the sith lady while she looks into Sabine's eyes while doing it. You can make the antagonist more threatening and teach your protagonist an important lesson for a future encounter with very small changes.
So she wouldn't train Grogu because of his attachment to din, but she'll train this idiot who got stabbed who has an attachment to Ezra which Ashoka knows about? GREAT WRITING DAVE
I just love how these are two characters that have MANY hours on screen, but almost their entire relationship happens off screen. Last we knew, they barely knew each other. Their sole connection to each other was Ezra.
Not only did Sabine survive a severe lightsaber injury from the enemy and it is fine the next day, but she also didn’t get sternly reprimanded for taking the map and losing it; and to add more salt on the wound, Ahsoka accepts her back as her Padawan. Don’t you love it when characters don’t face consequences for their actions?
Phantom Menace: Lightsaber stab kills you. Rise of Skywalker: Lightsaber stab kills you but you have force healing. The Mandalorian: Blaster shot kills you, but we have cyborg replacements for a stomach. Ahsoka: I'm out for...like...a day, then I'm fine. Me: This deal is getting worse all the time.
"I'm a general, nothing is classified!" Either the writers think the average viewer is dumb enough to believe this or they're dumb enough to believe this...
13:00 Yes, fans of the original EU liked Thrawn because he was what Hux was supposed to be: A young, clever, highly skilled Admiral. He presented a really good counter to the Emporer/Vader explicitly because he WASN'T a Sith, yet he could still organize the Imperial Remnant into a formidable galactic force. He also was building a different kind of Empire, likely because he ended up in charge of the Imperial Remnant, which (in a lot of ways) operated like it's own version of the Rebellion. He was driven not by an all consuming desire for power and have his race rule the Galaxy, instead he was very much about the stability and capability the Empire brought. Don't get me wrong, still very much a villain, but he was interesting because he came across like the guy who was always 3 steps ahead of the heroes because he could think like them, plan like them, and was willing to break Imperial Doctrine when it became inconvenient. The original Thrawn is exactly the kind of villain new Star Wars could galvanize around. Like a Thanos, he could be a persistent and formidable threat. I am very concerned the direction they are going making him into a mythical figure.
Ironic, because Now Thrawn is just another example of Huxifacation of The Empire. No Intelligence, No Tactics, Filloni, like all of Disnusfilm Writers constantly conflate Arrogance with Competence.. For Heroes AND Villains…
Apparently the Authors don't understand what Flak is, it's not just there to explode and do nothing, when it explodes it sends supersonic metal fragments in all directions, but not here, it explodes 1 meter from the ship and no damage.
Indeed, those plasma blasts should be sending super heated blobs of Plasma out in all directions. But given how ineffectual the weapons in this show are, Hera’s should could have tanked every one of those shots as direct hits, and it would’ve barely scorched the paint…
In Starship Troopers, a character get injured and put into a recovery tank, that seems to weave skin tissue, and is being told the he is going to survive but has to stay in there for a week.
Fringy REALLY nails this show's inability to be rewatched. These videos are essentially my rewatches. I've watched/stolen episode 1-5 so far. Rewatching episode 1 was a miserable f**king experience. It was slow and aimless. Knowing what happens removes any mystery and intrigue so I'm just waiting for these hollow characters to get on with it. Usually shows solve this problem by having characters change and constantly react to the world around them. But they don't. This is the most transparently lazy of all of these shows. This show is not writing anything new, just speaking to what's been seen before. This will prove more true as we progress.
I had it the same with Fett and Obi-wan. When you are watching it for the first time, you don't know what it will lead to and how many things will get fucked up. On a re-watch all the broken pieces slot together to create a weird twisted imaged of an abomination composed of things you used to like....
It's the whole problem with disney star wars: there's nothing to entice an audience besides mystery box BS. I've gone through Breaking bad several times both alone and with friends/family, there are episodes I eagerly anticipate watching with people because of the drama, the characters and seeing how friends/family will respond to those moments. In 5 years who is going to rewatch ANY of these disney shows? There's nothing to offer once you know what the mystery box contained, all you're left with is an empty show.
“It’ll show all those people who complained about me not showing up to 1 funeral” let’s see how they react to missing thousands? They’ll have no high horse then!”
In episode 1 the bombs were clearly visible as external and attached to the droid torsos, they were not in the heads. Sabine did not bring a bomb into a hospital.
@@esotericVideos and I quote... Hera: What happens if you get the power levels wrong? Sabine: The head will explode. Huyang: Perhaps we should perform this operation somewhere else. Hera: I say go for it. Huyang: Because you're a hologram. It doesn't matter whether the head was an actual nuke or not. The characters in the show believed it was. Bonus Ahsoka comment: There's no time to relocate. I'm sorry, what? Why? You brought it here. It's not on a timer until Sabine starts working on it. Just take it somewhere else, you dimwit.
The worldbuilding of the post-Empire government is dealt yet another blow. “We just assumed all these former Empire people would be fine with us. We didn’t vet or screen them at all.” Practically no care is taken by the New Republic in a major post-war industry of repurposing colossal pieces of sophisticated equipment on the scale of at least one immense shipyard. In a project highly vulnerable to misuse or sabotage, the Republic was happy to maintain not only the same staff, but the same organisational structure free of direction or even surveillance. There is nothing, I repeat nothing, stopping or even detecting a single Imperial-sympathetic engineer from sabotaging something like an engine to explode and destroy the Republic ship it's put in, or a bribed manager smuggling out rare weapon components to terrorists. Even basic common theft of material, devoid of ideology, would be a big concern of this kind of project, yet the negligence reaches such heights that something as rare and powerful as a SUPER STAR DESTROYER HYPERDRIVE could've been whisked away never to be seen again. For a moment we dared entertain the idea that they'd deal honestly with people who didn't have the luxury of caring whether the Empire or Republic ran things, until a room of random console workers were so radical and so devoted that they were willing to die to assassinate a General and a Jedi. A hint of maturity thrown away in the most spectacular fashion.
Given the incompetence, Lack of leadership qualities and absolute arrogance of the new republic shown in Disney properties, Honestly, I’d side with the Empire too….
Imagine what cool character developement and philosophical discussions one could have, should a Jedi that left the Jedi Order and a sole Mandalorian far from any Mandalorian culture be Master and Padawan. Alas we'll never have that chance I'm afraid. Would have been too interesting...
Remember (except for Andor) planets in Dsiney Star Wars aren't entire worlds with entire cavillations where thing happen whether or not our charters are there, noughpe They're small hamlets and they're on pause till our charters start the quest, like in Skyrim :)
When i watched these episodes with my kids, my 10 year old called the evil apprentice lady "mental health girl" when she came on screen. I have never been more proud.
Glad we got expert Theo to tell us all about Arrsoka and K'Naan Also the wolves can speak, create force portals, and one of them is basically a force manifestation of Kanan's will, needless to say it's pretty cringe.
Failoni has been turning sw more and more into a magic world. Lightsaber crystals are like Harry Potter wands with the added life threatening Test. The dathomir witches have literal magic that is straight up more potent than anything the force could muster and yet fans want to tell me this isn't the case. The dead just reappear. Hyperspeed travel is instant teleportation. Fucking Space whales that can travel between galaxies. This is insanity.
I think the most insulting thing about all the people surviving being stabbed in the gut isn't just that Qui-Gon died, but that his death is basically the inciting incident for Anakin's downfall.
Notes for episode 2 I love that they tell you that the story is nuanced and not everyone picks a side, but then it turns out these random factory works (who really have no reason to be super loyal to either side) are willing to die for the Empire that’s already lost control. Not only does that make the story less interesting, but it also makes no sense. Why? Why are they so loyal? Did they have a better payment plan under the Empire or something? And all of them? No ones here to just make a living? Ahsoka disarms one of the workers, and then Hera just shoots them in the chest point blank when they’re defenseless. Again, why? Why choreograph them to do something that’s morally questionable (at best) if it’s never addressed and doesn’t mean anything for the character? Like Obi-Wan using someone as a human shield, it just leaves a bad taste in your mouth and doesn’t mean anything for the story or characters. Episode 3 is better than 2 I think, but only because so little happens (still stupid in it tho). Looking forward to it… ugh
Also, if greed is the motive, it implies that the remnants of the Empire can pay better than a steady employment by the New Republic... not a good look for the Republic, is it?
"There's no time to relocate" With the sheer amount of time these characters spend mucking about, I think they can afford a couple hours to get to some wide open field instead of risking vaporizing the maternity ward into dust.
There was no bomb in the robot. The explosions in episode 1 were from clearly visible external bombs attached to the robot's torsos. The only thing that was being risked was some droid's head blowing up, not a hospital wing. EFAP is clearly confused on this issue and resultingly confused their audience.
@@esotericVideos Hera: What happens if you get the power levels wrong? Sabine: The head will explode. Huyang: Perhaps we should perform this operation somewhere else. Hera: I say go for it. Huyang: Because you're a hologram. It doesn't matter whether the head was an actual nuke or not. The characters in the show believed it was. And there was pretty clearly time to relocate.
Maybe they're right though. With all the time the spend mucking about it would have taken them half the episode to get a safe distance from the hospital
@@destroyer1187 That may actually be a good point. They probably couldn't have resisted showing them slowly walking out, traveling to some place else, and setting up the whole scene all over again in a different area. Relocating may have required a whole extra episode, and who wants that?
_WHY DOES EVERYONE SINCE TFA HOLD THE SABER HILT SO CLOSE TO THE BLADE?!?!?!_ It all started with Finn pressing the completely wrong button to turn it on. Ever since then, every character holds every lightsaber incorrectly.
I'm going to flip my shit when sabine inevitably learns to use the force to a powerful degree out of nowhere despite showing absolutely ZERO aptitude for it. remember when younglings would show force sensitivity at a young age? when Anakin could use foresight to make him so adept at podracing? it being a really basic force ability that every jedi uses pretty much all the time? when babies and toddlers in clone wars were shown levitating toys at will, despite having little to no ability to FUCKING TALK.
I know this is all un-canonized lore at this point BUT there were something like a dozen total SSDs in service at the height of the Empire before the battle of Endor. After the Emperor's death, there were only a handful left and each represented a major Imperial hero's position/claim to rule. A SSD was a rallying point for regional imperial forces and served to unite those forces around a central figure (interestingly, Thrawn was never given charge of an SSD). All that said--looking out a window and seeing an SSD specific hyperdrive unit which Hera does not recognize any purpose for (which is stupid given she literally commanded a Starwhawk in canon lore so should absolutely have good cause to believe there may well be secret, super ships under construction which are built on the parts of old imperial ships) but given that we accept okay, sure, Hera forgot about that and doesn't know why this SSD hyperdrive is here--that should be profoundly alarming. Call in the cavalry, this whole yard is on lock down kind of alarming because that engine can (again, if we buy that Hera is indeed correct and it's not for a Starhawk or similar republic ship) only be for one of like, six vessels and each of those are a huge, huge problem. Then when we find out, yes, this is indeed a secret imperial shipyard, this should be a major focus of New Republic resources given the seriousness of what that ship part means. A fleet should be dispatched to handle this.
There only being a dozen total Executor's is new canon shit, not old, lul. Old canon-wise, Super Star Destroyers (which, at least in the old canon, also had a far broader definition, of literally just being 'anything bigger and more powerful than an Imperial-class') were sector-level fleet assets. So, I.E., many, many thousands. Of course, how many of those were 'just' smaller battlecruiser-level ships and how many were geniune Star Dreadnoughts like Executor's is unknown, but I would lean towards the latter being more common, frankly.
Thrawn's abilities have become a meme to the extent that most people who've never even read the original Thrawn trilogy know who he is, the show treats him as a big deal because he's a big deal in the fanbase despite the fact that his exploits in (Disney's) canon are nothing special.
I cant believe they foegot to put the force ghost effect on Sabine like that, since she died in that first episode and all. Its strange that they made such a major mistake and nobody caught it.
The way Jedis use the force in combat to read the entire situation around them constantly, making them fight in an obviously supernatural way is one of the coolest things you can show. It isn't at all cool when every other character that isn't force sensitive seems to have the same supernatural ability to avoid danger / understand the battlefield.
This show feels like someone took Wikipedia summaries of the Clone Wars and Rebels, and gave it to a room full of badgers and told them " write a script from that, cheers".
In Rebels, the Grand Inquisitior almost never uses the spinny function on his saber. And I'm convinced Disney accidentally made a GREAT point with how it's used- Grand Inq uses it specifically when he's stressed, cornered, and losing, as a cheap tactic to mimic talented sword swinging. Now, Grand Inq actually dies due to Kanan exploiting the weakness of the circular bit being exposed. The inferior inquisitors use the spinny bits way more and actually seem to believe it is a good strategy. They could make a HUGE point in the live action shows to enforce the idea the Inquisitors are mass-trained and are barely qualified, but Dave seems to have wrapped around to convincing himself it's actually cool and not a cheap trick.
Rebels had writers and directors far more talented than Filoni working on it, the characterisation of the Grand Inquisitor was moreso their doing rather than it being Filoni's handiwork.
@@handles_are_a_bit_rubbishIts geniunely both hilariously funny and fucking terrifying to watch people gradually, unironically either come to believe via sufficient brainwashing/lowering of standards, or otherwise crawling out of the woodwork due to said lowering, that Rebels is anything less than a trashfire.
Using old Imperial ships was something the New Republic did in Legends. Thanks Disney. Also are we gonna talk about Hera point-blank shooting an unarmed prisoner at 20:17?
Right?! It made sense that the New Republic would largely just be an ‘exchange of Keys”, With Former Imperial Worlds and Ships simply experiencing a Change in Leadership. There are countless examples in History where Military Hardware and Weapons and Even full Armies of defeated Nations were simply reallocated to other units and countries. There were thousands of Post War German Planes, Tanks, Trucks, Ships and other equipment being given to other countries after the war. Slap a New Coat of Paint on a German Panzer, and suddenly it is a French Panzer. Imperial Star Destroyers are the Epitome of Naval Superiority in the galaxy. Sure They were Expensive, Big and required a large crew to operate, but that is because they were designed to fulfill an Expansive role. They were Mobile Fortresses, with weapons, barracks, factories, training facilities, ground vehicles, 70+ Tie Fighters, and all the equipment necessary to maintain them. They were Top of the Line Warships, which represented a MASSIVE strategic advantage to whomever commanded them. The New Republic’s insistence on Demilitarization is just abject suicide.. But then again, this is Disnusfilm War Stars, so these ships are probably made of balsa wood and their cannons are really just glow stick launchers intended for show.
I like how they said "this droid was made on corellia" followed by "there was once an empire factory on corellia", and made the fucking WILD conclusion that this is the only factory in the world that could have built this droid. This yard that currently builds ships and looks like it was purpose built to do that is the ONLY factory on corellia that could have built this droid
Why does the lightsaber slide into her gut and slide out, I mean it's not constrained by the flesh, it would be carving smoking bacon throughout her gut. Even though it's not perfect when it happens to Qui Gon it's better because Maul steps back and the lightsaber wiggles inside of him, it's weird Maul would step back and withdraw the blade that way but maybe that's just stylistic, the good is that QuiGon's flesh didn't provide any resistance to the blade and rightfully his liver, spleen kidneys, guts and gallblader all got melted together, there was no surviving that.
In addition to what Mauler already said to compare it to the prequels, you could also compare that scene to the scene on Tatooine in The Phantom Menace where Qui-Gon is fighting Darth Maul but then they come in to rescue him on the ship and he leaves mid-fight you know because the smart Jedi know that they can die against other Force wielders if they aren't careful and if they don't know their opponent very well, but Hera just looks over and is like nah she'll be fine, completely unconcerned.
Also they don’t even try to show how Sabine healed so fast. Even the sequels tried by putting Fin in a bacta suit. For a lightsaber that’s the bare minimum not the space bandage they slapped in her stomach that healed her melter organs
Star wars lightsabers have become less deadly than getting hit by an arrow, medieval weaponry leaves a bigger wound than a LASER SWORD THAT MELTS METAL
Wow, does Filoni seriously not know what a merchant is? Or what second-hand goods are? Why would the droid's production factory help you identify who attacked you?
Can you guys remember the scenes in Arcane where no one spoke, yet we learned way more about the characters and the world they we'll ever learn with this thing?
"Oh no, that ship just pulled a crazy, dangerous loop over the top of our ship. I think they've put a tracker on our hull, we should jump to some random system and check it over before continuing to our destination."
Yeah! While watching it I just thought: Just pull it op into her skull and finish her. No reason not to move your lightsaber around while it is in her stomach.
I like to think someone at some point before filming looked at the script and commented: - "Mister Filoni? I don't think this is enough material for multiple 30+ minute episodes..." - Filoni: *stares into the void for a moment* "It'll be fine."
5:42 I never really paid attention to how shit this fight is. She holds her lightsaber above her head for an entire second doing absolutely nothing before getting stabblooed.
Ahsoka feels like they’re trying to make your 14 year old written fanfiction into live action having so much scenes that has so much meaning to the character but the audience just looks on like “ok”
29:27 Yeah, he was a great character. The best in the film. He had a really good story and I still remembered him watching the episode of Andor with his type of droid.
Evil but dedicated and courageous it would seem, they would have known they didn't stand a chance against a Jedi at close quarters, but still tried to protect the Empire. Hell, if these were just ordinary factory overseer staff, they've probably never been off world and all they know is that the Jedi were insane terrorists who tried to overthrow the Republic and murder its leaders in the middle of a war!
"Sorry, it is classified." "But it can't be classified to me, I'm special." "Sure, you're awesome, but I'm not the guy who can unlock it." "Ah yeah, but I'm telling you to open it." "I understand you are telling me to open it, but I literally can't." "No, you don't seem to get just how special I really am." "Yeah, I get it. But this is like a locked box and I don't have a key to it, I'm just a little stooge." "But I'm AUTHORISING YOU to not be a stooge..." "Oh sweet jesus, she's broken, PLEASE SOMEONE START AN ACTION SEQUENCE"
I hate how they treat Thrawn like a mythical figure. He's just an extremely skilled admiral, not a lovecraftian horror
skilled people must seem like gods to those talentless hacks
In this universe, smart people are like unicorns.
Can't be that skilled if a kid outplayed him.
@@grandarkfang_1482 I wasnt a fan of how Thrawn was characterized in Rebels Like how Dooku was made another generic mustache twirling villain in the Clone Wars cartoon.
Kinda reminds me of how the Prequels made Vader the Chosen One of Star Wars when he was just a guy who was good at his job. It's the real world creeping into the storytelling.
“She’s supposed to be healing!”
“SHE IS SUPPOSED TO BE DEAD”
“That’s actually true!”
Not as dead as...we would have hoped
The way Rags delivered that line sounded like Yzma.
A LLAMA??
@@8light7 I think that's what he was going for.
The show: "Are you happy to see Sabine healing?"
Everyone: "NO! WE EXPECTED HER TO DIE!"
So in summary, Human beings are fragile enough that being slapped in the helmet will completely incapacitate them, but durable enough that being run though by a plasma blade is only a minor inconvenience?
R.I.P. Qui-Gon for losing the gene-pool lottery, I guess.
Guess they got the two stomach genes
Females have two stomachs. Duh
Mandalorians are just a superior breed of human.
Female human beings are able toughen their torsos on a monthly basis, through the use of period cramps.
This is the reason why Qui-Gon died, but Sabine was able to just sleep it off.
I guess Qui-Gon lost the will to live
Episode 1: Sabine nearly dies
Episode 2: Sabine decides that a whole hospital worth of people should share that experience.
You could say the experience is... *to die for* (ok, I'll go away)
My immortality was called into question, and I took that personally.
I'd say it's remarkable that not a single person pointed out during production that maybe messing around with explosives in a city hospital isn't a very heroic thing to do, but that would imply these corporate drones have ever considered the wellbeing of others in their lives.
@CrustlessKing but she's cool. You must not have considered that.
@@CrustlessKingFrom what I heard about Hollywood paying activists to block roads, ain't a suprise they'd think hacking a bomb in a hospital is heroic.
Remember the scene in Phantom Menace were Quigon was casually cutting through a metal door? And than when the trade federation closed the blast doors he just pushed it in further and the hole thing started liquifying within seconds?
Apparently Sabine is more resistant to lightsabers than a meter thick hunk of reinforced metal intended to withstand explosions.
Remember when quigon was stabbed with a red glowy thing and he decided to die because he didn't like obiwan, told obiwan to go fuck himself and just to make sure obiwans life is shit he forced him into being a father.
I swear at this point it should be cannon that quigon had severe space cancer and because of the stress of fighting Darth maul he dies. Because these retards clearly established that lightsabers are toys
THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE
-Viceroy Nute Gunray
Mauler is correct in noticing that the in-universe Thrawn-wank in this show is extremely silly. _We_ think Thrawn is cool because he was a pragmatic genius mastermind that very nearly ended the New Republic, but that was in a story Disney very deliberately declared non-canon. The characters in the show treat him the same way _we_ do despite this version of Thrawn just being a somewhat-competent blue guy whose career was largely defined by being dabbed on in Rebels and abducted by space whales. Nobody explains exactly how they expect Thrawn will return them to glory, and we already know whatever they do doesnt work because the Sequel Trilogy happens after this.
Also, hi Rags.
Also, that story gave Thrawn a lot of tools, he wasn't just fighting with rubber bands. He had a fleet of starships, he had an army of clones to help man his ships, and he found a lost fleet to bolster his numbers. He rallied the remnants of the Empire behind his leadership. He had a top secret bug relaying him information directly outside the Senate Floor. He had a band of legendary assassins answerable only to him. He discovered a force-resistant species of drop-bears.
He wasn't magically a threat to the Republic simply by existing, he was a smart adversary who made use of many resources. He found innovative ways to use cloaking technology and gravity generators. He was tactically and strategically savvy, and an inspiring leader to his men.
@@TheNoonishI mean even the novels with Thrawn that are canon are still good, they somewhat nerf him to where he isn’t as good as politics as he is commanding fleets. And since they expand on the Chiss Ascendancy, hypothetically he could have resources with a fleet of Chiss ships, which would be so fucking COOL seeing a hybrid Imperial Chiss fleet. But they won’t do that, they’re too stuck on hearing “oh, he’s a space Sun Tzu, ok and Sun Tzu is seen as a god of war I think, so that must mean Thrawn is just some god right?”
@@snakeguy8646 They're trying to turn him into some kind of mythical figure. In the books, by the end of the series, he was legendary even in the republic for his tactical sense, like Rommel was to his adversaries. But Thrawn wasn't taken down in an epic face to face duel with a lightsaber, he was done in by a dude with a knife.
This is a world-building problem. If they showed a universe where the Empire was very much still intact and actively fighting against the Republic, having Thrawn show up could swing the battle. But they're not fighting at all and acting as if simply having Thrawn be there will give them the power to fight, suddenly. If we had a sense that the Empire was in a long, losing war but it could be turned around by a competent commander, it would be a big deal.
Our heroes shouldn't be hunting down Thrawn, they should be fighting the Empire. Their win condition isn't preventing Thrawn's return, it's destroying the Empire's ability to war war.
@@TheNoonish Yeah this goes all the way to Jakku and Cinder as a world building problem, having the Empire kill itself and die quickly was just lazy, the EU turning it into a long war of attrition handled it way better, and if they kept it would have made it so much easier for Disney to make stories, now they just keep pulling shit out of their ass
@@snakeguy8646 That reminds me... did Filoni consult Timothy Zahn on the scripts he wrote for this show? Zahn wrote the new canon Thrawn novels, so it would be utterly bizarre if Filoni had access to his ideas and just didn't bother.
Finding Thrawn is like someone looking for Napoleon, but the British put the map to Alba in an Aztec temple with puzzles. The idea of someone who went into exile fairly recently and having it portrayed like it's some sort of ancient quest is B.S. This is the Wayfinder dagger rubbish.
And in the end they just find a corpse! XD
The only way I see to square this circle is to conjecture that the second galaxy depicted in the map must be the only other one to which the space whales were known to be able to travel (though that doesn't exclude the possibility of others), and that knowledge of this map's existence and what this map is supposed to depict and this map's secured location was all preserved, but not the actual contents of the map itself. Therefore the map was not created explicitly to provide the purported location of Thrawn and Ezra, it was made to provide the location of another now-forgotten galaxy which is merely one potential (incredibly expansive) location that the space whales may have taken them. I still don't think this slots into what the show tells us but I don't think there's any other way to justify the characters seeking out this ancient map and coming to these conclusions.
@@CrustlessKing TBH, I'm not watching the show or know anything about rebels. I was only assuming that he was sent into exile from clips I have seen. I'm guessing you know a fair amount more about the story. But how is there a map if Thrawn was taken by space Whales to another galaxy or knows where he is?
@@Cartoonman154THERE CANT BE! IT MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE!
Hey if it was Elba they would have left him a short hyperspace jump from the center of imperial remnant power. That boi is on St. Helena for sure
Luke didn't chuck his lightsaber away in TLJ because it was character assassination it was because he knew how useless they were.
I feel like this comment is underrated.
"Id deal more damage with a pool noodle than with this"
In Heir to the Empire, nobody knew who Thrawn was. The Republic was always under the assumption that all the Grand Admirals were dead. Thrawn was always kept a secret because he wasn't a human, and non-humans weren't allowed in the Empire.
Don’t you mean non-humans weren’t allowed in the Empire?
You are correct. Only non-humans were allowed in the empire which makes Thrawn an interesting character (in the books, anyway)@@jackmrsich3178
@jackmrsich3178 whoops my B.
It was meant to show militaristic Thrawn was to be the only non human who made that far up the empire
Yes, and this is another iteration of that base character, which is nothing abnormal in fantasy storytelling or commercial fiction.
*Risks blowing up a hospital instead of just spending 5 minutes to go outside*
why are modern "heroes" such casually awful people?
They almost did more harm than the Empire remnants
Because the writers don’t have the time to care
Why do you think the Empire is so desperate to get Thrawn back? New Republic is being run by a bunch of pyschos.
Because they are reflections of the people who created them.
Because they’re based on todays youth.
I genuinely cannot understand why people would like this version of Sabine. In two episodes, she ditched a celebration of the heroes of the city, threatened the life of a pilot by speeding into his ship before dipping last minute, stole confidential information that a JEDI wasn't able to notice/sense, and casually attempted hacking essentially a bomb in a hospital.
Also, remember when Finn, a non-force user, fought Kylo, a sith who has trained for years, and got his shoulder knicked and his back slashed. Those two wounds caused Finn to lose consciousness and had to be put in a whole ass bacta suit or whatever. Meanwhile, Sabine gets straight up stabbed in the liver, lung, etc. and she is bouncing up and down on the bed, walking around like nothing is wrong. No. I'm just remembering Clay Morrow from Sons of Anarchy who got shot in the chest and he required an oxygen tank, had a raggedy voice, and was wheezing for a whole season and a half.
So true
Ron Perlman after all
Because normies (particularly female ones) eat up the "cool" wamen with a borderline psychopathic disregard for responsibility and other people. Even in current year.
She's literally more-female Ezra Miller
Sabine wasn't even a good character in rebels, come to think of it, none of the characters in rebels were good. Kanan was the only one somewhat tolerable
i realized why sabine ditching the celebration seemed so stupid and it finally clicked, it's because it was more like a funeral.
so it's like she skipped a funeral for her brother because she was upset her brother wasn't going to be there.
thats like the dumbest explanations for doing that you could possibly concieve
If I was gonna rewrite the show, I'd have it where Sabine is off supporting some time-sensitive mission to help some people (hostage situation, natural disaster, etc.), and have it brought up that Sabine didn't need to go to that mission, and it's clear she's just disrespecting the governor who set up the celebration; but the oldman who knows her clarifies it -- "her absence is not for lack of care; she's burying her sorrow in her work".
Have it justified that it was an emergency that she threw herself into to help out with, anything to find something else to think about, to keep busy. But still acknowledge that it was an evasive behavior that was disrespectful whether she intended it or not.
You DON'T just cut to her riding a bike towards fucking nothing lol
Considering the Rebels S4 ending monologue says that she feels that Ezra charged her with defending the people of Lothal......this memorial IS service to the people of Lothal. She has more reason not to skip it.
You could obviously have her do this without her being an asshole-show her having an emotion over it. They mentioned she was at the memorial earlier, you could show her looking at the mural, getting teary-eyed, and then dashing off. Then she could be a decent person and APOLOGIZE about how she couldn't handle being there because there's a loss she can't bear.
Instead you show her blasting star-wars techno on her motorcycle and coyly saying, "Oh, that was today?" after she was said to be AT the memorial, and then fleeing people who wanted her there. Why? I can only assume it's to make it impossible for the audience to sympathize with her.
@@TheNoonish Dude you're not getting it. Emotion is weak and Sabine is not weak, she's a big girl.
@@AlphaAurora Ezra: Sabine! Defend the people! Sabine: let me mess with this superexplosive droid in the middle of a city
Imagine if Dave Filoni is the only telepath on Earth and he doesn't understand why other people can't read people's mind by looking at them.
I struggle to believe he would write like this if that was true.
But also he makes his characters state the obvious...
Demanding to see the records of some facility because your a general, is the same as Some navy commander demanding to know the McDonald’s secret formula
You just can’t make this stuff up
colonel sanders will tell me how his chicken is so finger lickin good gOD *_DAMMIT_*
@@kwazhims3lfI pictured the situation play out in my head, had a good laugh
Way more entertaining than this show, anyway
_Gimme that secret formula or I'm going to have you Article 15'd!!!_
Ravioli ravioli give me the formioli
It’s insane that this show has a percentage of people begging for Filoni to have full control of Star Wars
I too would like star wars to self-destruct faster
Yeah, windowlickers from twitter
Honestly it makes sense. The lost and the confused tend to flock towards false prophets.
Surely they can find some area between writers that are spastic fanboy hacks and narcissists that don't give a shit about the universe?
We used to. WHen Season 7 of the Clone Wars hit and The Clone Wars were finished. To be fair, it is one of my fond memories that something like that happened, something was resurrected and we got the conclusion. It was made for the fans. However, season 7 for me is like 7/10 first 4 episodes, 2/10 the next 4 episodes, and 10/10 last 4 episodes. I did not think, that in his live action debut, he would go with the style of that BS 2/10 style. of the 2nd arc of S7. I saw some cranks during Rebels already. But he seemed to get the important stuff right. Not anymore. So now I am sad. And looking for the little things. Like the music at the end of episode 5 of this show. That was pretty cool and triumphant, I liked that.
Something funny is that even frickin Cosmonaut Variety Hour made a joke about Sabine being force sensitive and that it is the only thing that could make her any more of a Mary Sue.
Watched another few minutes and got to Rags making a joke that Cosmonaut also made about Sabine, that she feels like a character you would make for an RPG or that she is just THE DRAGON BORN
Oh right I remember. Yeah he did say that. Failoni is so predictable
Andor low level worker drone: "I just want to get through my day and earn enough to buy some blue milk for my children."
Ahsoka low level worker drone:: " _FOR THE EMPRAAAAAH!_ "
Screaming "For the EMPRAH!" would at least give him the bonus of righteous fury to ignore fatal wounds in the face of heretics. Yelling "For the Empire" after the Empire has fallen is pretty sad though.
@@Bannschwert It's dumber in new canon context, because of Operation Cinder. The Empire went out of their way to punish......pro-Imperial planet by destroying them via weather satellite.
They need that green titty milk from Luke.
How exactly did an empire that was so shitty and evil manage to inspire such fanatical loyalty?
@@atreides213 Consindering what we've seen of the New Republic thus far? I understand why people would choose the Empire over THAT.
Everything at the shipyard was so bad it's hard to put in to words.
"Hey I'm a General, tell me everything I want to know or I will make this an official inspection."
"Okay, make it official. If you're a General then I don't want to be seen skipping procedure because that will get me in trouble."
"I'm a General so nothing is confidential to me. Definitely not about the navy."
"Oh, so you meant to say you're an Admiral and might actually have some authority over the navy? Also I'm still not breaking procedure."
Count down until the Disnoids shriek:
"It's in a Galaxy Far Far Away! You don't know! They clearly work differently than we do! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"
Everyone else - "No wonder the New Republic was destroyed so easily by the First Order. The New Republic was incompetent."
i scrolled down instantly after that dogshit scene. What moron would ever even think og the line "I am a genereal so nozhing is classified for me."?
Is this what it’s come to? The nittiest of picks
@@countof3everybodyODThe fundamental structure of the biggest government and military body in the galaxy is a nitpick? We literally just came out of a rebellion and a regime change, a restructuring of society from an empire to a Republic, does that just not matter anymore? Wtf would be a big issue for you? If a teletubby shaped death star popped out of a black hole? Would your brain say "wait a minute, what's going on here, I have some questions" then?
@@countof3everybodyODrest in piss
I hate how the show explicitly tells us that Ezra's lightsaber is no longer his. I felt as if the show reached a grubby hand through my television screen, grabbed me by the ear, and said, "It's Sabine's lightsaber now".
KEEP DAVE FILONI AWAY FROM ALL HOSPITALS. Arming a bomb in a CITY HOSPITAL was one of the dumbest things in Filoni SW. The self destruct of the droids was seen as a small nuclear bomb. Even if this explosion wasn’t nuclear, our female protagonists willingly risking everyone in the hospital and in a city was BARBARIC! And Hera, a military general told them to “Go for it”?
While she wasn't there! 🤣 so bad.
We always get the same thing with Dave Filioni when he scratches the surface of good world building. The Empire quest giver talking about all the benefits the Empire gives, the old separatist guy actively supporting democracy. And now we are asked how a entire workforce of lower class workers slaving away in a random shipyard could possibly have any loyalty remaining for the Empire and the only answer we can be given is "Greed." There is so much more to explore here in question to the loyalty of everyday citizens of the galaxy.
And then in _Tales of the Jedi_ Dooku and Qui-Gon showing up to rescue a hostage end up siding with the guerilla captors _against_ the governor they were tasked with helping, based on . . . the guerillas being poor and the governor seeming like a douche. . .
You're right, MauLer, Thrawn became popular because he was a competent, interesting antagonist well-presented in the books that introduced him. The funny part is, there's a later duology of books that's based around the memetic status he subsequently gained in-universe, and the problems inherent in that. The overblown "Thrawn will return!" hype is an *in universe* plot point, causing both Imperial remnants and excitable New Republicans to act in certain arguably counterproductive ways. So not only was Thrawn a good character but the books even played with the unrealistic hyping of him as a significant flaw of other characters... Disney didn't take notes...
Are those EU books? If so, what are they called? I’d be interested in reading them (Heir to the Empire is my favorite Star Wars novel series)
@@lordvarrax5060 Spectre of the Past and Vision of the Future, by the same author. A decent sequel to the Thrawn Trilogy, especially since it's based around the *idea* of Thrawn, and the unrealistic expectations people on both sides have about him.
@@matthewcollins4773 Thanks, I’ll check them out
@@matthewcollins4773God, the irony of it all, considering Zahn himself, at least in later years, and certainly nowadays, has more or less not just drinked his own kool-aid, but slammed it back and asked for seconds. Thrawn in the EU as time went on gradually just got more and more hilariously, stupidly god-like and wankish.
In rebels, she got lightsaber training. Specifically because she had the dark saber and needed to learn how to wield it as you can be challenged to a duel with it.
She then fought another mandolorian in a saber duel.
However, the beauty of those scenes in that show was the point that she did lack force powers. So she had to do things a bit differently, and it had alot to do with her character. Not just "mando with saber is super coooool"
I find it crazy how shit she is in like every single form of combat, and she's a mando. They've devolved so much
I can't believe green lady's "evasive maneuvers" are just 1 step up from Peter listing lazily to the left in the family guy SW parody.
It helps that the Imperial sympathizers hired Dean Takahashi to man their turrets.
@@jroggs85 He's never going to escape his failures
Never forget Chopper is Dave Filoni's *self-insert character.* this isn't a joke he confirmed it on alteast one of the featurettes for rebels.
Where is Chopper’s cowboy hat? So…Filoni inserted himself as a lifeless AI droid who functions as an auto pilot? Sounds about right.
He’s still more of a character than Ahsoka here
All I remember about that droid is he was a prick throughout the series. Figures...
This is quite literal, Filoni himself voices Chopper.
which one is Chopper? xD
The fact that Sabine let her self get stabbed all because she held her stance instead of following through with her swing really infuriates me.
Like the last Jedi fight, the more you watch it, the worse it gets.
The sith lady spins around so slowly, and Sabine simply stands there waiting to be stabbed, absolute crap.
And worse, once she was stabbed she refused to bring her lightsaber down on the blonde lady when it was being held just above her head. Blonde lady put herself in a suicidal position to kill Sabine, then refused to finish the job. Absolute piss show
I'm starting to think that being stabbed in the gut is the equivelant of putting on handcuffs. It's the star wars version of surrendering cause everyone knows you're not gonna die, you're just bored of fighting.
@@woketree21 Sabine could have sliced Sith lady in half if she wanted, but "Oh no, I've been stabbed! I'm so shocked by that my arms are frozen above my head!"
You can almost hear Qui Gon going "Oh ffs, a bee sting? really?"
I really appreciate Fringy's editing here. It gives this lifeless husk of a show some energy.
Poor guy had to see this crap with the boys, entertaining us with their wit. Then had to see these scenes again and again to make this bearable to watch. I salute you Fringy.
All you care about is that gd generator, don't you? Are you the one telling Fringy's kids about his heroic sacrifice in the lower levels? How he was engulfed in toxic fumes and about your refusal to seal the source off to save him?
What is a city without morals!?!
"Why don't they just reuse the old star destroyers?" oh Rags, Disney reconnected those out of existence along with all frontal lobes.
Also, when rags said the Eye of Sion I thought he was joking and spat my drink when they lady said it.
Tbf I doubt when concentration camps got liberated they reused the striped pjs
Kinda did an over kill woth my point but you get what I mean.
that lightsaber went into her liver and out a lung. that’s not just something you walk off. it’s also seared due to the heat so it can’t just heal. she doesn’t even seem to be bothered by it the wound the next day. Kenobi getting a small graze from Dooku was treated more significant than this.
Interesting that mention attack of the Clones.
Because it's strange that it just caused a few deep cuts in Kenobi's arm and leg.
Not impossible just a bit dubious.
Obi-Wan's treatment wasn't shown during AoTC.
Kenobi's treatment wasn't explicitly shown at the end of Episode II. But at least every step afterwards was painful for him and he slowly limp away.
Anakin even was going to marry Padmé in the same week presumably??
Glad Sabine survived she is definitely an "unique" Mando girl. Ahsoka never should have trusted her with the golden ball.
Well if you don't know HUMANS HAVE TWO LUNGS AND THE LIVER REGROWS SOOOOOO - ala - grand inquisitor.
I thought it went through her spleen or something
I mean, if their plan was just to incapacitae Sabine, they could have taken some inspiration from prequel clone wars where Dooku just gave the heroes flesh wounds (and a chopped off limb) where the shock caused by the pain would make them stay down for a while and require medical assistence, rather than straight up gut the character in a VERY vital area and cover it in plot armor so that it survives the whole trip to the hospital to be maybe saved.....I mean, she clearly lived in a very isolate place that took a fucking while to reach even by ship, yet she survived something that ended Qui-gon in seconds for long enough so that Ashoka could arrive, drag her sorry ass to the ship and still take quite some time on the travel back before reaching an hospital, where she would still need to be taken to a doctor in god knows what floor to then start the procedure of healing whatever was damaged.
And the worse thing is that an shit-eater Disney star wars fan will just come out with some silly what-aboutism pointing to other sure death instances where characters survived (as if we didn´t think they were shit as well) and that those should give a free pass for this one as well, rather than acnowledge it was shitty writing.
Remember Luke being in bacta tank thingy, AND needing to rest afterwards, after getting jostled around a bit (in comparison)?
I can empathize to a certain extent with big fans of Rebels and Clone Wars being excited about getting a live-action show with their characters that they really like. However, I can’t for the life of me understand why they’re so overjoyed by it when the show does a massive disservice to what character was there to begin with. There’s no effort to make them intelligent or consistent, and yet so many people are praising this show to high heaven. I’d think that the people who love these characters would have higher standards for them. How is it that those of us who don’t have much of an existing background knowledge of these characters have higher standards for them than the people who’ve adored them for years?
As a Clone Wars and Rebels fan I was happy of the IDEA of the show, but it's execution has a lot to be desired, to say the least, thankfully I have a friend in our watch party of the series who echoes all my complaints as we see every enjoyable element of both series be ignored for this new shite
I'm a fan of TCW and Rebels, and I'm not going to be watching this show because of the reason you said.
Probably the ones who are praising it are praising it because it's the stuff they know, they're not thinking about the execution and the writing
Sadly, many fans of those shows have the mentality of literal infants and will clap at anything vaguely familiar. There is a chunk who understand that this is shit and live action key jangling isn’t enough
Stokholm syndrome my friend.
Maybe Rosario Dawson was told to play Ahsoka lifeless because that's how Filoni's Ahsoka sex doll acts.
Best theory I've ever heard.
The funny thing is (Spoilers for Episode 5) that the young life action version of Ahsoka has so much more emotions than this one. Filoni just thinks stoic characters are the hight of coolness and that's why nobody is allowed to actually emote and act.
@@BannschwertLuthen from Andor is what stoicism really looks like
Felatio's writing looks like autistic cartoon scribbles in comparison.
Why do you asume it has to be sexual? Because she's female?
@@akashajones6079
Calm the fuck down there, Tipper Gore. People've been saying the same thing about Jon Favreau having a Mando sex doll.
Nothing new. Don't bury yourself trying to dig any deeper.
One point to note is that being stabbed in the abdomen region also takes out your core muscles. You use those for just about everything, from breathing to running. If you want a real example of these being cut open and stitched together, go ask a woman to go running after a C-section birth. You're practically bedridden for a while for recovery. Even cutting through small parts of your core muscles leave a while for recovery, simply due to what they are used for.
and that's a slice, not a hole with missing tissue
Having had an two abdominal surgeries, I can absolutely attest that everything from sitting up, getting out of bed, walking, standing, sitting, breathing and lifting a glass of milk was a ponderous and painful process for weeks after each operation.
I love how Hera's whole thing over Rebels and this show, yet she consistently has one tactic of "fly straight at the enemy" and that is seen as being a godlike pilot in this universe.
It’s at this moment you realize that the real Thrawn would fuck up these clownsicles in about two days…
@@mrdropkicker1 Just *imagining* this circus going up against Legends Thrawn amuses me to no end!
I don’t even remember Ahsoka and Sabine having a one on one conversation in Rebels, when did they form this master and apprentice relationship? Sabine did train with a lightsaber in Rebels, but Ahsoka wasn’t even there..
Exactly, even at the end of Rebels where I saw they were teaming up I was like "Wait, really? These two?" I just don't get why someone like Luke isn't here instead
It's because they're the only two female characters on the team that have anything to do with the Jedi.
To find Thawn they'll first have to find a dagger with coordinates to his location on it.
Your not far off and that's the sad part
And the edge of the dagger will line up with an entire arm of the new galaxy he was taken to, and point to the exact star and planet where he can be found, after five minutes of aimless searching.
@@idiotcube Remember the Empire of the Hand. That was good. This will be Empire of the Milk.
I can't believe we are doing this map shit again
@@SangheiliSpecOpIf we can find the map to JJ Abram's secret mystery box of really good and not terrible storytelling tools, we can put a stop to it!
As somone who just recently had a GI surgery, I can say that you cannot be moving around on your own so soon after some serious abdominal trauma. And my physical trauma was not quite as serious as being ran through with hot plasma
Hope you are well
@@thanatosdriver1938 I am. Can't eat a lot of what I used to anymore, but I lived so that's an upside.
I'd add, Lightsabers are meant to melt, boil or explode human blood. Now, imagine blood exploding in your lungs.
I can't wait for the lengthy response as to why she can take a lightsaber to the stomach and be fine.
@@jamiearmstrong3487 yup, remember what happened to the blast doors in Ep 1?
"Because you're a hologram" I only laughed at that because of David Tenant's delivery
In the BOOKS, Thrawn actually was just cool for cools sake. His backstory was that he was the only person in the Empire who was allowed to veto the Emperor on matters of military strategy. (He was the only person who disagreed with the viability of a planetary invasion plan the Emperor had proposed, and when the invasion failed the Emperor decided he would listen to Thrawn in the future.) But he earned his coolness beyond his backstory because of the character he was shown to be. He believed in the cause of the Empire, he fought to achieve his goals, he acted as a foil to the heroes, and his defeat was a consequence of his actions. He had personality, and quirks, and gravitas. He was a good character, he was a good villain. Rebels was a pale imitation, and everyone still clinging to hope in this franchise is just waiting for him to be introduced in some post credit scene level cameo in this garbage show so he can be a terribly written character in a movie that likely won't even get made? We have reached the meme.
Don't ask questions. Just consume product and get excited for next product.
People who believe Thrawn will save star wars should have to compensate the rest of us for the air they waste.
At this point, Disney should full-on parody the lethality of lightsabers by having someone UTTERLY diced in one scene, in PIECES, then appear totally fine two scenes later with a line like "Luckily the authorities found me in time to administer some medical aid" or "A little bit of bacta goes a long way."
I like how Sabine almost pulls a Dark Knight Joker on the hospital and no one cares except the robot
The bombs in episode 1 were visible as external and attached to the robot torsos. There was no bomb in the robot heads, there was no bomb in the hospital ever. Just a robot head that might blow up.
@@esotericVideos Hera: What happens if you get the power levels wrong?
Sabine: The head will explode.
Huyang: Perhaps we should perform this operation somewhere else.
Hera: I say go for it.
Huyang: Because you're a hologram.
It doesn't matter whether the head was a bomb or not. The characters in the show believed it was.
Anyone notice 22:03 how as Ahsoka stabs the robot assassin, the hole is expanding based on little movements from her light saber and/or the robots movements. but when they show sabines wound in the hospital its the exact width of the light saber. its interesting that neither sabine nor darth chihuahua lady moved not even an inch to cause sabines wound to get bigger and cause more internal damage, as she was being stabbed by a damn light saber!!!!
Also good that people in this universe forget to just swipe. Looking at you darth mauley
What if she ripped half her torso or made a substantial wound? You don't even have to show it directly, just use sounds and keep a close up on the sith lady while she looks into Sabine's eyes while doing it.
You can make the antagonist more threatening and teach your protagonist an important lesson for a future encounter with very small changes.
"Like me this droid is very resilient" Apparently not, since a lightsaber actually killed it.
7:03 - "SHE'S SUPPOSED TO BE DEAD!"
I appreciate Rags channeling his inner Yzma to deliver that, fucking gold delivery.
So she wouldn't train Grogu because of his attachment to din, but she'll train this idiot who got stabbed who has an attachment to Ezra which Ashoka knows about? GREAT WRITING DAVE
I just love how these are two characters that have MANY hours on screen, but almost their entire relationship happens off screen. Last we knew, they barely knew each other. Their sole connection to each other was Ezra.
@@alexhayden219 yeah you see faloni is a great writer like that kappa
Not only did Sabine survive a severe lightsaber injury from the enemy and it is fine the next day, but she also didn’t get sternly reprimanded for taking the map and losing it; and to add more salt on the wound, Ahsoka accepts her back as her Padawan. Don’t you love it when characters don’t face consequences for their actions?
mate, the plot demanded it, so Ahsoka had to stfu
Sabine: Blows up Hospital.
Ahsoka: You Excellent my Padawan, Anakin would be pleased.
@@jamiearmstrong3487 They almost did more harm than the Empire remnants
Isn't this commonly referred to as "failing upwards"
Women cant ever fail remember
Phantom Menace: Lightsaber stab kills you.
Rise of Skywalker: Lightsaber stab kills you but you have force healing.
The Mandalorian: Blaster shot kills you, but we have cyborg replacements for a stomach.
Ahsoka: I'm out for...like...a day, then I'm fine.
Me: This deal is getting worse all the time.
Kenobi: Lightsaber stab kils you unless you have an extra stomach.
"I'm a general, nothing is classified!"
Either the writers think the average viewer is dumb enough to believe this or they're dumb enough to believe this...
They’re Disney writers, they think compartmentalization of information, information security and hierarchy is ‘Fascism”.. ^.-.^
Probably both.
It's definitely the latter. The former is only a consequence of that.
"I'm a General, nothing is classified!"
"And I'm Emperor Palpatine. I don't care who you are. No clearance, no information!"
13:00 Yes, fans of the original EU liked Thrawn because he was what Hux was supposed to be: A young, clever, highly skilled Admiral. He presented a really good counter to the Emporer/Vader explicitly because he WASN'T a Sith, yet he could still organize the Imperial Remnant into a formidable galactic force. He also was building a different kind of Empire, likely because he ended up in charge of the Imperial Remnant, which (in a lot of ways) operated like it's own version of the Rebellion. He was driven not by an all consuming desire for power and have his race rule the Galaxy, instead he was very much about the stability and capability the Empire brought.
Don't get me wrong, still very much a villain, but he was interesting because he came across like the guy who was always 3 steps ahead of the heroes because he could think like them, plan like them, and was willing to break Imperial Doctrine when it became inconvenient.
The original Thrawn is exactly the kind of villain new Star Wars could galvanize around. Like a Thanos, he could be a persistent and formidable threat. I am very concerned the direction they are going making him into a mythical figure.
Ironic, because Now Thrawn is just another example of Huxifacation of The Empire.
No Intelligence, No Tactics, Filloni, like all of Disnusfilm Writers constantly conflate Arrogance with Competence.. For Heroes AND Villains…
Apparently the Authors don't understand what Flak is, it's not just there to explode and do nothing, when it explodes it sends supersonic metal fragments in all directions, but not here, it explodes 1 meter from the ship and no damage.
Indeed, those plasma blasts should be sending super heated blobs of Plasma out in all directions.
But given how ineffectual the weapons in this show are, Hera’s should could have tanked every one of those shots as direct hits, and it would’ve barely scorched the paint…
In Starship Troopers, a character get injured and put into a recovery tank, that seems to weave skin tissue, and is being told the he is going to survive but has to stay in there for a week.
Rebels is a race between Ezra and Sabine to see who can get the shortest haircut
She needs to shave her head to win.
pretty slow race
Conspiracy theory: they intentionally forget comment showcase to get us to talk about them forgetting comment showcase
Fringy REALLY nails this show's inability to be rewatched. These videos are essentially my rewatches. I've watched/stolen episode 1-5 so far. Rewatching episode 1 was a miserable f**king experience. It was slow and aimless. Knowing what happens removes any mystery and intrigue so I'm just waiting for these hollow characters to get on with it. Usually shows solve this problem by having characters change and constantly react to the world around them. But they don't. This is the most transparently lazy of all of these shows. This show is not writing anything new, just speaking to what's been seen before. This will prove more true as we progress.
I had it the same with Fett and Obi-wan. When you are watching it for the first time, you don't know what it will lead to and how many things will get fucked up. On a re-watch all the broken pieces slot together to create a weird twisted imaged of an abomination composed of things you used to like....
It's the whole problem with disney star wars: there's nothing to entice an audience besides mystery box BS.
I've gone through Breaking bad several times both alone and with friends/family, there are episodes I eagerly anticipate watching with people because of the drama, the characters and seeing how friends/family will respond to those moments.
In 5 years who is going to rewatch ANY of these disney shows? There's nothing to offer once you know what the mystery box contained, all you're left with is an empty show.
I need to see an edit where Jesse looks at Sabine trying to hack the droid head and says "You did not seriously just bring a bomb into a hospital"
“It’ll show all those people who complained about me not showing up to 1 funeral” let’s see how they react to missing thousands? They’ll have no high horse then!”
In episode 1 the bombs were clearly visible as external and attached to the droid torsos, they were not in the heads. Sabine did not bring a bomb into a hospital.
@@esotericVideos and I quote...
Hera: What happens if you get the power levels wrong?
Sabine: The head will explode.
Huyang: Perhaps we should perform this operation somewhere else.
Hera: I say go for it.
Huyang: Because you're a hologram.
It doesn't matter whether the head was an actual nuke or not. The characters in the show believed it was.
Bonus Ahsoka comment: There's no time to relocate.
I'm sorry, what? Why? You brought it here. It's not on a timer until Sabine starts working on it. Just take it somewhere else, you dimwit.
The worldbuilding of the post-Empire government is dealt yet another blow.
“We just assumed all these former Empire people would be fine with us. We didn’t vet or screen them at all.”
Practically no care is taken by the New Republic in a major post-war industry of repurposing colossal pieces of sophisticated equipment on the scale of at least one immense shipyard. In a project highly vulnerable to misuse or sabotage, the Republic was happy to maintain not only the same staff, but the same organisational structure free of direction or even surveillance. There is nothing, I repeat nothing, stopping or even detecting a single Imperial-sympathetic engineer from sabotaging something like an engine to explode and destroy the Republic ship it's put in, or a bribed manager smuggling out rare weapon components to terrorists. Even basic common theft of material, devoid of ideology, would be a big concern of this kind of project, yet the negligence reaches such heights that something as rare and powerful as a SUPER STAR DESTROYER HYPERDRIVE could've been whisked away never to be seen again.
For a moment we dared entertain the idea that they'd deal honestly with people who didn't have the luxury of caring whether the Empire or Republic ran things, until a room of random console workers were so radical and so devoted that they were willing to die to assassinate a General and a Jedi. A hint of maturity thrown away in the most spectacular fashion.
Given the incompetence, Lack of leadership qualities and absolute arrogance of the new republic shown in Disney properties, Honestly, I’d side with the Empire too….
She is more animated/alive after being run through with a lightsaber. The f*ck is going on.
She lost some weight getting that hole.
perhaps she had a tumor that just happened to get cut out
Haha, that could very well be.
17:35 Remember when mandalorian and Jedi ideology heavily differed and often clashed against one another, Pepperidge farm remembers.
Imagine what cool character developement and philosophical discussions one could have, should a Jedi that left the Jedi Order and a sole Mandalorian far from any Mandalorian culture be Master and Padawan. Alas we'll never have that chance I'm afraid. Would have been too interesting...
Remember (except for Andor) planets in Dsiney Star Wars aren't entire worlds with entire cavillations where thing happen whether or not our charters are there, noughpe
They're small hamlets and they're on pause till our charters start the quest, like in Skyrim :)
they even have Jarls in their castles (see Bo-Katan in Mando S3)
I love Ahsoka, she's my favorite Star Wars! I like the part where she cross her arms!
When i watched these episodes with my kids, my 10 year old called the evil apprentice lady "mental health girl" when she came on screen. I have never been more proud.
Glad we got expert Theo to tell us all about Arrsoka and K'Naan
Also the wolves can speak, create force portals, and one of them is basically a force manifestation of Kanan's will, needless to say it's pretty cringe.
Inside you there are two wolves, they're both ̶g̶a̶y̶ force sensitive.
i'm happy that Theo is a guest for this series. We need more Theo!
So you're saying GoW:Ragnarök ripped off Rebels?
@@samwallaceart288 Filoni was the blueprint!/s
Failoni has been turning sw more and more into a magic world. Lightsaber crystals are like Harry Potter wands with the added life threatening Test. The dathomir witches have literal magic that is straight up more potent than anything the force could muster and yet fans want to tell me this isn't the case.
The dead just reappear. Hyperspeed travel is instant teleportation. Fucking Space whales that can travel between galaxies. This is insanity.
lol yes, Theo's pronunciation of Kanan was really jarring
I think the most insulting thing about all the people surviving being stabbed in the gut isn't just that Qui-Gon died, but that his death is basically the inciting incident for Anakin's downfall.
Notes for episode 2
I love that they tell you that the story is nuanced and not everyone picks a side, but then it turns out these random factory works (who really have no reason to be super loyal to either side) are willing to die for the Empire that’s already lost control. Not only does that make the story less interesting, but it also makes no sense. Why? Why are they so loyal? Did they have a better payment plan under the Empire or something? And all of them? No ones here to just make a living?
Ahsoka disarms one of the workers, and then Hera just shoots them in the chest point blank when they’re defenseless. Again, why? Why choreograph them to do something that’s morally questionable (at best) if it’s never addressed and doesn’t mean anything for the character? Like Obi-Wan using someone as a human shield, it just leaves a bad taste in your mouth and doesn’t mean anything for the story or characters.
Episode 3 is better than 2 I think, but only because so little happens (still stupid in it tho). Looking forward to it… ugh
Also, if greed is the motive, it implies that the remnants of the Empire can pay better than a steady employment by the New Republic... not a good look for the Republic, is it?
"There's no time to relocate"
With the sheer amount of time these characters spend mucking about, I think they can afford a couple hours to get to some wide open field instead of risking vaporizing the maternity ward into dust.
There was no bomb in the robot. The explosions in episode 1 were from clearly visible external bombs attached to the robot's torsos. The only thing that was being risked was some droid's head blowing up, not a hospital wing. EFAP is clearly confused on this issue and resultingly confused their audience.
@@esotericVideos Hera: What happens if you get the power levels wrong?
Sabine: The head will explode.
Huyang: Perhaps we should perform this operation somewhere else.
Hera: I say go for it.
Huyang: Because you're a hologram.
It doesn't matter whether the head was an actual nuke or not. The characters in the show believed it was.
And there was pretty clearly time to relocate.
Maybe they're right though. With all the time the spend mucking about it would have taken them half the episode to get a safe distance from the hospital
@@destroyer1187 That may actually be a good point. They probably couldn't have resisted showing them slowly walking out, traveling to some place else, and setting up the whole scene all over again in a different area. Relocating may have required a whole extra episode, and who wants that?
_WHY DOES EVERYONE SINCE TFA HOLD THE SABER HILT SO CLOSE TO THE BLADE?!?!?!_
It all started with Finn pressing the completely wrong button to turn it on. Ever since then, every character holds every lightsaber incorrectly.
I'm going to flip my shit when sabine inevitably learns to use the force to a powerful degree out of nowhere despite showing absolutely ZERO aptitude for it.
remember when younglings would show force sensitivity at a young age? when Anakin could use foresight to make him so adept at podracing? it being a really basic force ability that every jedi uses pretty much all the time? when babies and toddlers in clone wars were shown levitating toys at will, despite having little to no ability to FUCKING TALK.
I know this is all un-canonized lore at this point BUT there were something like a dozen total SSDs in service at the height of the Empire before the battle of Endor.
After the Emperor's death, there were only a handful left and each represented a major Imperial hero's position/claim to rule. A SSD was a rallying point for regional imperial forces and served to unite those forces around a central figure (interestingly, Thrawn was never given charge of an SSD).
All that said--looking out a window and seeing an SSD specific hyperdrive unit which Hera does not recognize any purpose for (which is stupid given she literally commanded a Starwhawk in canon lore so should absolutely have good cause to believe there may well be secret, super ships under construction which are built on the parts of old imperial ships) but given that we accept okay, sure, Hera forgot about that and doesn't know why this SSD hyperdrive is here--that should be profoundly alarming. Call in the cavalry, this whole yard is on lock down kind of alarming because that engine can (again, if we buy that Hera is indeed correct and it's not for a Starhawk or similar republic ship) only be for one of like, six vessels and each of those are a huge, huge problem.
Then when we find out, yes, this is indeed a secret imperial shipyard, this should be a major focus of New Republic resources given the seriousness of what that ship part means. A fleet should be dispatched to handle this.
There only being a dozen total Executor's is new canon shit, not old, lul. Old canon-wise, Super Star Destroyers (which, at least in the old canon, also had a far broader definition, of literally just being 'anything bigger and more powerful than an Imperial-class') were sector-level fleet assets. So, I.E., many, many thousands. Of course, how many of those were 'just' smaller battlecruiser-level ships and how many were geniune Star Dreadnoughts like Executor's is unknown, but I would lean towards the latter being more common, frankly.
I for the life of me cannot understand why this show treats Thrawn as some mystical deity when he's just a skilled commander
Thrawn's abilities have become a meme to the extent that most people who've never even read the original Thrawn trilogy know who he is, the show treats him as a big deal because he's a big deal in the fanbase despite the fact that his exploits in (Disney's) canon are nothing special.
I want them to find Thrawn and when given the map, he throws it over his shoulder and says he's done being a general.
That would subvert my expectations.
I cant believe they foegot to put the force ghost effect on Sabine like that, since she died in that first episode and all. Its strange that they made such a major mistake and nobody caught it.
The way Jedis use the force in combat to read the entire situation around them constantly, making them fight in an obviously supernatural way is one of the coolest things you can show. It isn't at all cool when every other character that isn't force sensitive seems to have the same supernatural ability to avoid danger / understand the battlefield.
This show feels like someone took Wikipedia summaries of the Clone Wars and Rebels, and gave it to a room full of badgers and told them " write a script from that, cheers".
In Rebels, the Grand Inquisitior almost never uses the spinny function on his saber.
And I'm convinced Disney accidentally made a GREAT point with how it's used- Grand Inq uses it specifically when he's stressed, cornered, and losing, as a cheap tactic to mimic talented sword swinging.
Now, Grand Inq actually dies due to Kanan exploiting the weakness of the circular bit being exposed.
The inferior inquisitors use the spinny bits way more and actually seem to believe it is a good strategy.
They could make a HUGE point in the live action shows to enforce the idea the Inquisitors are mass-trained and are barely qualified, but Dave seems to have wrapped around to convincing himself it's actually cool and not a cheap trick.
Rebels had writers and directors far more talented than Filoni working on it, the characterisation of the Grand Inquisitor was moreso their doing rather than it being Filoni's handiwork.
@@handles_are_a_bit_rubbishIts geniunely both hilariously funny and fucking terrifying to watch people gradually, unironically either come to believe via sufficient brainwashing/lowering of standards, or otherwise crawling out of the woodwork due to said lowering, that Rebels is anything less than a trashfire.
Using old Imperial ships was something the New Republic did in Legends. Thanks Disney.
Also are we gonna talk about Hera point-blank shooting an unarmed prisoner at 20:17?
Right?! It made sense that the New Republic would largely just be an ‘exchange of Keys”, With Former Imperial Worlds and Ships simply experiencing a Change in Leadership. There are countless examples in History where Military Hardware and Weapons and Even full Armies of defeated Nations were simply reallocated to other units and countries. There were thousands of Post War German Planes, Tanks, Trucks, Ships and other equipment being given to other countries after the war. Slap a New Coat of Paint on a German Panzer, and suddenly it is a French Panzer.
Imperial Star Destroyers are the Epitome of Naval Superiority in the galaxy. Sure They were Expensive, Big and required a large crew to operate, but that is because they were designed to fulfill an Expansive role. They were Mobile Fortresses, with weapons, barracks, factories, training facilities, ground vehicles, 70+ Tie Fighters, and all the equipment necessary to maintain them.
They were Top of the Line Warships, which represented a MASSIVE strategic advantage to whomever commanded them. The New Republic’s insistence on Demilitarization is just abject suicide..
But then again, this is Disnusfilm War Stars, so these ships are probably made of balsa wood and their cannons are really just glow stick launchers intended for show.
I like how they said "this droid was made on corellia" followed by "there was once an empire factory on corellia", and made the fucking WILD conclusion that this is the only factory in the world that could have built this droid. This yard that currently builds ships and looks like it was purpose built to do that is the ONLY factory on corellia that could have built this droid
This is better because it gives them tons of opportunities to just "pause". That's her Jedi specialty.
Why does the lightsaber slide into her gut and slide out, I mean it's not constrained by the flesh, it would be carving smoking bacon throughout her gut. Even though it's not perfect when it happens to Qui Gon it's better because Maul steps back and the lightsaber wiggles inside of him, it's weird Maul would step back and withdraw the blade that way but maybe that's just stylistic, the good is that QuiGon's flesh didn't provide any resistance to the blade and rightfully his liver, spleen kidneys, guts and gallblader all got melted together, there was no surviving that.
Maul spun into Qui Gon, and spun back out to face Obi-Wan right away (and to get away from Qui Gon's lightsaber), so it made way more sense
16:55 "Ezra's lightsaber is literal perfection."
"It will be... when it fits a Womandalorian."
In addition to what Mauler already said to compare it to the prequels, you could also compare that scene to the scene on Tatooine in The Phantom Menace where Qui-Gon is fighting Darth Maul but then they come in to rescue him on the ship and he leaves mid-fight you know because the smart Jedi know that they can die against other Force wielders if they aren't careful and if they don't know their opponent very well, but Hera just looks over and is like nah she'll be fine, completely unconcerned.
Also they don’t even try to show how Sabine healed so fast. Even the sequels tried by putting Fin in a bacta suit. For a lightsaber that’s the bare minimum not the space bandage they slapped in her stomach that healed her melter organs
Star wars lightsabers have become less deadly than getting hit by an arrow, medieval weaponry leaves a bigger wound than a LASER SWORD THAT MELTS METAL
Wow, does Filoni seriously not know what a merchant is? Or what second-hand goods are? Why would the droid's production factory help you identify who attacked you?
Lightsaber: cuts through feet of solid bedrock instantly.
Also lightsaber: leaves a little pink mark on human flesh.
😂
Qui-Gon Jinn: Gets stabbed, *dies*
Darth Maul: Gets cut in half and falls into an abyss, *lives* gets stabbed decades later, *dies*
Reeva: Gets stabbed *lives*
Sabine: Gets stabbed *lives*
Fuckin Qui-Gon man.
Can you guys remember the scenes in Arcane where no one spoke, yet we learned way more about the characters and the world they we'll ever learn with this thing?
If only arcane had good characters....
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@@stbr68citation needed.
@@stbr68 bad bait
wish it was...@@datzfatz2368
"Oh no, that ship just pulled a crazy, dangerous loop over the top of our ship. I think they've put a tracker on our hull, we should jump to some random system and check it over before continuing to our destination."
I like how carefully the sith removed the lightsaber from her stomach
Yeah! While watching it I just thought: Just pull it op into her skull and finish her. No reason not to move your lightsaber around while it is in her stomach.
I like to think someone at some point before filming looked at the script and commented:
- "Mister Filoni? I don't think this is enough material for multiple 30+ minute episodes..."
- Filoni: *stares into the void for a moment* "It'll be fine."
5:42 I never really paid attention to how shit this fight is. She holds her lightsaber above her head for an entire second doing absolutely nothing before getting stabblooed.
18:05
Ya' gotta love the guy. Closest thing to a character in this entire show.
“You’re in a thick as fuck, slow as shit transport ship. How are they not annihilating you?”
-Mauler 2023
"Hello! We are the boss fight." I died
Ahsoka feels like they’re trying to make your 14 year old written fanfiction into live action having so much scenes that has so much meaning to the character but the audience just looks on like “ok”
29:27
Yeah, he was a great character. The best in the film. He had a really good story and I still remembered him watching the episode of Andor with his type of droid.
"Remember, blue collar workers are evil." - Man who wears cowboy hat to seem relatable and blue collar
Evil but dedicated and courageous it would seem, they would have known they didn't stand a chance against a Jedi at close quarters, but still tried to protect the Empire. Hell, if these were just ordinary factory overseer staff, they've probably never been off world and all they know is that the Jedi were insane terrorists who tried to overthrow the Republic and murder its leaders in the middle of a war!
I thought he just wore that cuz he's a gay cowboy
"Sorry, it is classified."
"But it can't be classified to me, I'm special."
"Sure, you're awesome, but I'm not the guy who can unlock it."
"Ah yeah, but I'm telling you to open it."
"I understand you are telling me to open it, but I literally can't."
"No, you don't seem to get just how special I really am."
"Yeah, I get it. But this is like a locked box and I don't have a key to it, I'm just a little stooge."
"But I'm AUTHORISING YOU to not be a stooge..."
"Oh sweet jesus, she's broken, PLEASE SOMEONE START AN ACTION SEQUENCE"
"You guys like the prequels, right? We do, too! We're like one big family."
Thank you EFAP for being the voice of reason in a sea of shills.
27:50
Ahsoka's tentacles also look really bad. They have creases in them and they also are really stiff and will flop around really weirdly.
Sabeen surely has like 3 stomachs, 5 lungs and 2.5 livers.
Productive!
And infinite plot armor.
And 0.25 brain
All of that at the cost of her brain.
She’s a space marine.