How to develop color film: Tetenal Colortec C-41
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Get a cheap Styrofoam beverage cooler case (the disposable ones that people take on picnics) and use that as your hot water bath (metal bowls/pots dissipate heat quickly). Keep your developing tank in the hot water bath for the duration of the 6 mins when you're not agitating it. Also use an electric kettle to top-off with hot water to bring the temp up if needed instead of running gallons of hot water from the tap. If you want to be an absolute water miser, get a 2 gallon plastic bucket to capture all of your rinse water and then use that to flush your toilet.
lovely! thanks for the ideas! :D
Suntoryjim with the 8 likes it's obvious you've helped more than Eduardo with your suggestions, thank you.
Waiting for your "developing color film the brute way" video
I use a plastic ikea storage container, fill it with hot water, let the chemicals sit in the water, stick the thermometer into the developer bottle and wait until it reaches 39C. take all 3 bottles out and start. there's no way the temperature will drop more than the 2C tolerance during the whole development process (I've timed it :-) ) .
I also found a great app called 'lab timer' which allows you to set up all your timers with labels so it's less things to think about. I found the first time I developed I was thinking about all the stuff I had to do and mildly panicking so anything that can help to remove some of these things is great. The 3 most important things I've found to help in no particular order are 1) fast reading thermometer 2) funnel (getting the chemicals back in the bottles is quick and easy) 3)lab timer app
I've had actually more issues with scanning than developing. Getting rid of those microscopic hairs on the frame holder is a right pain.
Love your channel
Thanks to your video I jumped into the C-41 process and can now develop my pushed color film. It changes everything to be so independent.
It's become a recent tradition of mine to make tea and watch your videos. Thank you for bringing me joy!
awesome tradition, if I may say so.
Don't feed the temperature monster! I develop c41 at home all the time and as long as you keep it within a degree or two you'll be fine! Great video!!!
yeyy I was waiting for this video. here it is. thank you! I'm so exited to see the results!
send you both much love =)
I have actually no idea about photography but I love to watch you trying new things and pursuing your dream. Started watching you when you lived in Berlin and really enjoy seeing you and Fran finding your path. I'm from Spain but currently living in Germany so hearing you both talking in Spanish sometimes is really nice. Keep going you two!
thx man. I bought the same kit for a month now, did not had time, all so i was a bit scared to do it. Your video saved me. I used the 38 degrees and it worked. Thumbs up dude!
ive been into photography on and off within the past few years, this year ive gotten really into it, especially film photography, i love your videos :)
Can't wait to see the results! Cheers man!
Good going. Its your first roll. Do not give up. I used a 10 gallon aquarium. It worked....
That's so cool! Awesome video, man!
There's more temperature leeway than manufacturers recommend, and you'll still get consistent colours. If you put your dev tank in a bowl of water of the same temperature, drift will be negligible over the duration of development. I've always used 38 degree C/100F, which is 3 mins 15 sec for up to 4 films - not enough time for big temperature swings.
The chemistry lasts much longer than the official figures if kept dark, air is removed in concertina bottles, and it's used within a reasonable amount of time, say 6-9 months. I dispose after 25 films and notice no colour shifts, but people claim 50 rolls+ for a 1 litre kit! If you use Poundland film, that makes for incredibly cheap colour photography!
Once you've developed a few films it becomes totally routine - just remember to put the chemistry back in the same bottles, that's the biggest premature killer of development kits.
Borderlands you stated it perfectly. Came here to say all this. Currently on like my 20th roll of my current C-41 kit I mixed a few months ago.
Nick Seaney, how is the developer and fixer quality after a few months as you say? Are the chemicals still usable? I got the Tetenal kit today and it says that the first use the colour developer performs well for 6 weeks. Seems worrying to me as its a short period of time. Please let me know. Thanks
PaulBario after roll 10 or a month of not using (whichever comes first) I add 30ish seconds to developer time. After roll 20 make it a full minute and after roll 30 I hear you should add 2 minutes but I've never pushed a kit that far. I maybe only add 30 seconds to the blix time after roll 15. It stays pretty stable. Just give the bottle a good shake if it's been sitting for a while.
With C 41 the results don't just drop off into nothing. You'll see a gradual decrease in quality so you can adjust for subsequent rolls if you get some wonky results. After roll 15 you may start to notice some color shifts and increase in contrast but you can edit that in Photoshop if you wish.
Stabilizer stays the same always. There's no real harm in leaving in a little bit longer if you want to.
Also, the tetenal kit is very expensive. I noticed no difference in quality between that kit and the cheap unicolor powder kit.
If you want a really good water heater/circulator then get yourself a 'Anova Culinary Sous Vide Precision Cooker' from Amazon. Just clip to the side of a 10Ltr tank, pour in your water and set the temp. Drop your chemicals in and wait for the temps to stabilise and your ready to go.
Saves messing about with 2 or 3 fish tank heaters, and this thing is accurate to 1/10th of a degree.
You can cook a nice steak with it when you've finished as well. Love mine, but the price is a bit of a hit at £99
Excellent video, thanks for choosing Tetenal!
Thanks for sharing your experience developing color film Ed! I still haven't gotten around to doing it myself but perhaps I'll try it someday.
it seems scary, but once you get the feel of it, is not terrible at all. go for it! is really fun.
Awesome! Thank you for the encouragement! :)
Thank you for the tutorial, I’ve just developed two rolls of Kodak portra. I can’t wait to scan them in
I'm really glad you took up through your first time, sometimes when people have been doing something for a while they get so used to do it they forget to mention little things. I've just ordered my first C-41 kit and my first film is Fujifilm Pro 160ns from my Bronica, so I'll be doing my first 120 film and colour film on the same day. 😳😳😳😳😳🤢🤢🤢
Good job man, thanks for the tut!.. i've been developing BW for a while now, using caffenol.. time to try that out, thanks!
Really cool!! I love seeing your DIY process (it's not ghetto at all haha) and it's great seeing that it works. It makes the whole process feel more approachable.
Me gustan mucho tus videos y definitivamente eres un excelente fotógrafos saludos
cant wait to see the results!
You did it! Now the fun starts.
Hey man...amazing channel. Found it yesterday and just can´t stop to watch it:) Thanks for the Brighton shoot. I love the town. Lived there about three years and miss it now. These pictures turned out really great with that vintage look. Might not be what the kodak suppose to be, but for me looks fantastic...definitely not a wash out look. Thanks for the inspiration, now I can see, that it is not that hard to develop colour film. Btw. as someone mention you should try to find helios for the Zenit, I got it from a flee market for just about fifty pence with non working zenit body and still use it on micro 4/3 body. Cheers Jan
oooh that was a sweet deal you found. congrats and welcome to the channel. :)
Hey Ed, great episode!
I am using the same kit and I found out that you really don't need an aquarium heater if you use hot tap water and put it into a big bucket and then put your chemical-bottles inside and wait until they warm up to the right temperature. Usually I use the 38C Method, I just find it easier to hold the chemicals at that temperature then at 30C. I usually use tap water around 45C to fill up the bucket. I found out that if your chemicals are at room temperature and you put them into the bucket, the temp of the bucket and the chemicals will even out at 38C. They also keep that temperature for quite a while.
Another tip: Squeeze out all the air from your chemical-bottles once you're done developing. That makes them last longer and you can get almost double the amount of films out of one kit.
Keep going man, you are a big inspiration to me, I love your photography!!
nice tips, man! I'll try the 38C next time. I just got an aquarium heater, so I have new tools to have fun with. hahah
Great video. I develop B&W and have been put off doing colour because temperature and thought I'd need something like a Jobo which your video shows I don't.
Wow. That was great, Ed. I have never developed colour film. Maybe one day.
Thanks to yours video Man, I just finished my first development in c-41 it's ok .. wow
awesome! welcome to the color side. hahaa
For color I stick to room temperature and stand development. No hassle, no agitations. Probably because Im lazy but the results are good as well. great video as always!
Mattias Burling stand development and color?? Plz explain
check my channel, made a tutorial.
I was just about to comment about the stand development that I learned about from your channel :P
Siempre pensé que era al único al que le sucedía eso con los rollos en una Zenit, de hecho por esa razón aprendí revelar :D gracias por el video, que por cierto me motiva a probar el C-41 Thanks Ed
Mil gracias por los subtítulos Eduardo. :)
great video buddy. would love to see the scans!
Great video ! When your mixing the chemicals, do you also have to get the chemicals into the right temperature or just the water? And should the chemicals be mixed right before the developing?
I see that cats have a good life ... Thank you for sharing your experience, it's nice 😊👍
thanks man! you inspired me! :) ill try it :)
I literally just received the kit now!!!
Really glad you liked Brighton Eduardo! It's a shame I didn't bump into you, I would have liked to say hi and thank you for the videos :)
AWWWWWWW YEAH
Developing color is so liberating. So many options open up. I had a pretty harrowing experience mixing it the first time. I actually got my packs mixed up so i had to order another kit. After the super stressful first time, its like nothing. The temperature thing is scary, but you have a 5 degree margin of error. Like with B/W, the more you do it, the you get comfortable enough to get a little sloppy. Can't wait til you whip the XPan and Nishika back out.
That Tetenol kit looks way easier to mix than the Unicolor powder i use. Developing only takes 3.5 minutes tho.
yeah, it's weirdly relaxing. it might be the novelty of it... after developing SO MUCH in B/W, trying something new makes me feel like learning new tools. but it does take a lot of time. those 3.5 minutes on your Unicolor sound like magic!
My digibase kit actually states that the temperature range is +- 0.3 degrees over 37.8 for the 3:15 timing to work out. I routinely disregard it because it's absolutely impossible to do when manually developing and because I think my tap water makes it require longer development and fixing time. I go for 38 degrees and 3:38 on the dev and bleach, 5:30 instead of 4:30 on fixing.
Developing colour can be daunting when you first read up on it but then you realise there's actually a much wider margin for error. Of course your colours will not be lab perfect, but the can't be using home equipment, can they. I use a laser IR thermometer btw, which also adds some bias to my temps.
Oh, and since there's that £1 Agfa film available from Poundland, it can be much cheaper to learn the ropes with than black and white, which costs 2.5-3-ish for 24 exps even if you roll it yourself.
lajos- which poundland sells film for a pound, I haven't found one in west London that does.
I got mine in the East Ham one, last I checked they only had a few and those had damaged boxes. Bought some 90 rolls there. I've made it a habit to pop in every time I happen to be around a poundland and check if they have any, and buy 10 if they do. It's just too good a film to pass on for a pound.
Do you need any additional empty bottles from the kit to mix the solutions or do they mix and fit in the bottle provided? Thanks for the vid by the way 👍🏻
Hey, where did you get the developing tank and the cloth with the arm holes for the process from the film roll into tank? thanks so much!
Hola Eduardo, cuantas veces se pueden reusar los químicos? Saludos!
do you have a link for the set of chemicals you used or where you bought them from?
Ayer justo revelé mi primer carrete de color y ha sido una sorpresa ver hoy este video :) Se monta un poco de cisco por el tubo ese del acuario de peces (que por cierto, funciona muy bien), y yo al menos usé guantes, mascarilla y gafas xD ¡A seguir revelando!
Using this for my first foray in to colour negative film photography (outside of college like 10 years ago)
That happened to me with the film for the first time, forgot to press the release button. Did you get them chemicals from Firstcall photography store in Summerseat.
great! want to see the results:) need to try this myself. maybe you wanna look for jobo cpe or cpp :)
Cool vid! So you didn't need to agitate and invert at all using the slower process?
Querido Eduardo, una pregunta, si revelo fuji 400h el tiempo es el mismo?
Which bottles did you use for the mixed chemicals? Looking to buy the same ones
Good job. Now I should restart my B&W developing again. But color, wow. Its the same fear I have. (i.e., temperatures)
Next I want to see if you'll do real print making using an enlarger and paper!
Thanks
Nice video, Ed. Share some of the shots!
I know this is an older video, but have you tried Stand Dev C41 at 20c?
Hey Ed, I use a small polystyrene cooler box (the kind of boxes they use at a fish market) from Ebay to keep my chemical at the same temperature. It works really well and it was super cheap!
niiiice tip! thanks for that!
gracias hace tiempo que estoy con que quiero revelar a B/N y color y ya me animé Saludos desde Perú.
so weird, im just getting back into photography with an emphasis on Lamography and developing my own negatives for the first time since i left school some 20 years ago, this was the first video i clicked on and I live in Brighton...in fact the coffee shop with the mushroom stools outside is my regular coffee shop, I live a 5 minute walk from there....this must be a sign :)
entertaining and informative cheers
After the stabilizer can I squeegee the film? I've noticed that water spots are leaving marks on the film. Is that permanent?
great adventure !! it happened to me one time ( i broke a film ). it was ilford pan 400 and because the camera was (kind of) winding properly i kept shooting. and then i had a mental idea of the pics i shot but they didn't exist. So frustrating ...
If you are a bit lazy try a "sous vide" to heat and keep your chemiclas at the right temperature. It's also great for cooking!
can you mix only 250 ml of the package, even if its not specified in the mixing user manual?
Nice to see an effort made to maintain a proper processing temperature, as opposed to the "what the hell - room temp group". Pre-digital when the goal was color prints made in the chemical wet process, the contrast and color shifts introduced by off-temp processing and using chemicals well beyond their exhaustion were not correctable. Today, you can slide by by overusing these kits and pissing off on temp control because (1) digital scanning allows a much greater correction control, (2) most folks scan their film and look at the pictures on an uncalibrated computer screen, and (3) have lower or no quality expectations because they have nothing better for comparison.
they have these things used for sous verde. u place in a tank of water and heats the water to a specific temp and maintains that.
What are the best ways to get film to dry flat and not curl? Mine still curls
Estos químicos sirven para cualquier tipo película, como portra 400?
Which ones did you purchase to develop the film?
Hey Eduardo! I have a request: Can you make a video with Kodak Tmax 400? Would be interesting. thank you
where do you normally send to develop?
Hi, there are a few C41 kits out there: Unicolour, Tetenal, Cinestill etc. What the differences? Could you do a review and comparison please? I can't find any information anywhere on the internet on the differences
in C-41 Tetenal and Unicolor use three steps, Cinestill uses only two, but I have not tried it. They are all basically the same. Cinestill might save you a few minutes.
Hey Eduardo! Thanks for being a massive inspiration to me to get into film.. Just wondering what Agitation method did you use in this video?
I don't remember, but is very possible that I agitated every minute or so. I currently agitate just two or three times during the whole development and the results are fine.
A friend of mine uses the element from a portable electric kettle in a washing up bowl, occasionally using cold water if the temperature gets too high. Cats are cool:)
Edu, que son ml no mm ;-) Estoy suscrito ya de un rato y me encanta tu canal. Ánimo y un abrazo desde Múnich
By any chance you would link me everything i need please i have bad internet i can only watch on a low 140P
How did the roll turn out? Did you scan the shots?
good job
where did you order this from?
Hey bro, where can I buy the quimics?
Next step is E6 then I guess. But take note, the kit goes bad within two weeks once mixed because the first developer only lasts that long. So just make sure you have 8 to 10 rolls of slide film shot and ready to develop. Although technically, you will make your money back for the kit after only developing two rolls.
Thanx I was think same. I dont need temperature control it cost too much
Genial el episodio!! Tengo una duda, jamas revele nada pero quiero comenzar a hacerlo ya que aquí en argentina sale realmente caro muy caro! El químico que sobre (so es que sobra) se lo puede reutilizar para otro revelado? Gracias!!
Si, claro. Todo este kit se reutiliza hasta para revelar 40 rollos. :)
Buenas Ed, me pregunto dónde conseguiste las botellas vacías selladas. Te vienen con el pack de Tetenal? Me voy a España de vacaciones y creo que voy a disparar mucho carrete de color... Igual me animo con esto del C41. Mil gracias y a seguir así, no sólo inspiras si no que a la vez enseñas. Good man!
Gracias, Carlos! las botellas vacías las compré por eBay, pero puedes encontrar en alguna tienda cercana a ti, de seguro!
Hey Ed, I've also done C-41 a few times and ran into the same issues as you. I also need to mix 3 chemicals + a very small amount of a fourth chemical to make the developer - so small I need syringes to measures it. Bleach and fixer are separate. The results are nice, I love colour film but the process is so tedious I still have 6 rolls of film that wait to be developed since April.
this kit is way easier than yours, from what I read. but if I were you, I would just take the Sunday afternoon, listen to a nice record while developing and do the six rolls in a row. :)
Yeah that's right. It's now almost winter anyway so this sounds like a good plan. I'm so pumped to see how the medium format Kodak Ektar 100 comes out that I show in England this August. I only need to choose a good record now...
is that temperature correct? shouldn t it be at 38 degrees in the c 41 with tetenal?
Depends on the agitation. It’s in the instructions. Also, temperatures don’t need to be exact when developing. I have a video where I use just hot water withour measuring, and the results are great.
How many times can you reuse the chemicals?
I also have that question in mind. If we put them back to their bottles, how many times can we?
I am really pretty good now at B&W development now, never managed to get great results doing C41 at home. Always get weird colour shifts on the scan, probably because of the temperature shifts
Turn on Auto-Level when scanning and it will fix most of colour shifts, unless the temperature was way off.
Had you find the fish tank or thing that holds the temperature? if you found one, please suggest me !
Thanks
Although I have since acquired more techy equipment, for temperature control I still use my "poor man" set-up: a small insulated cooler designed to hold a 6-pack of beer and a fish tank heater. Pre-session, I fill the tank with water hotter than my process temperature and plug in my fish tank heater, pre-set to 105 degrees. I add 250ml bottles of my chems for either C-41 or E-6, then let the whole thing settle down to the target temperature while I load film tank and get ready. One problem with organizing this rig now is that fish tank heaters commonly now sold locally do not seem to get up the 100+ temperature you need for photo use. Of course, you now have the water-bath cooking heaters which do an excellent job and are probably more convenient and durable.
you can reuse chemicals?
Yeah, I like too the colour, but I don't scan. I enlarge all my negatives, but colour papers are almost unavailable in this time.
How many films can these quemicals develope?
I recomend getting Massive Dev Chart Timer App on your phone (Android or IOS) You have every film possible on there
Mr Paves. I am from Chile. I bought a Canon ae1 program, I have been taking plenty of pictures. Do you know any C-41 and B&W dealer ? I need to get the quemicals to develop my pictures by my self. I want to learn the process.
Hola Juan! los químicos de B/N los venden en JPF (metro el golf), en el Portal Lyon o en MacIver.
para C-41 está más difícil, pero puedes preguntar ahí mismo. ánimo!
Developed my first colour film with Tetenal C-41 3 bath blix and totally messed up the temps and dilution it ranged between 36 and 41 Celsius I forgot to empty my pre-soak before putting in the developer so I guestimated and added an extra 1.30 to the development time to compensate I never inverted the tank I just used the twizzly thing I forgot to cool the blix which was at 41 Celsius I then rinsed with the same 41 degree tank water a few times. I think the stabiliser was the only thing I got right also I didn't bother to squeegee. Anyway the results, absolutely perfect negatives 100% better than what I got from the local 1 hour process lab with the same film type and camera those were grainy as hell and streaks everywhere. The film superia xtra 400 cheapo stuff turned out to be more forgiving than any B&W I've developed maybe the film itself is forgiving I don't know. That's about as brute as it gets and negs still came out spot on with nice colours barely perceptible grain and nice contrast. It's taught me I don't need to stress about temperatures and timings as much as some people like to think with that film anyway.
yep. I talk about this on my new video about developing C-41
Wowwww!, un buen experiencia, felicitaciones , donde compraste los químicos?,saludos!
Oye y supuestamente deberías usar guantes!hahahaha
como todo acá en UK: por Amazon. me llegan a la casa al día siguiente! no sé dónde los vendan en chilito, pero quizás eBay tenga un vendedor con envío internacional (?)
EduardoPavezGoye buscaré, se ve interesante para hacer mis revelados para 120 en color ya que en concepción no hay donde revelar, saludos y espero ver el resultado de esas fotos :)
did you put the color developer and blix and stuff back in the containers or just dump it out? can you reuse any chemicals?
oh and did you shake or agitate anything?
everything goes back to the containers. I didn't agitate anything this time. it's my first experience, I have no idea what I'm doing. I'm experimenting and bringing you with me. :)
This is freaking awsome😂😂😂
where would I get the chemicals for developing and how much are they?
Check "Freestyle" in California. They have anything you would require to process C-41 and are very reliable.
How many rolls of film 120 and 135 can you develop from this kit and can you extend it by increasing time, temperature?
the box says you can do 50 rolls, but I have (of course) not tested that. I don't think you can extend the life of a chemical by changing the temperature. it only lasts about three months, anyway.
Your Tetenal kit must be bigger than 1 litre. I have the 2.5 ltr instructions in front of me, and it claims 30-40 rolls from 2.5ltr, if you process 4 films at a time. Those are the official figures, the reality is much more generous.
In my experience you have to get temperatures and times way out to get serious colour shifts. Being slightly casual is no worse than colour negatives I've received from professional C41 labs, and well within post processing tweaking limits.
can you add a link to all the equipment you used; like the chemicals to the plastic bottles that you poured the chemicals into.
Nah, I think you can find plastic bottles next to where you live, man. No need for me to post a link to an eBay store in the UK.
EduardoPavezGoye how many liters do i need to sure per roll? also can you reuse the chemicals?
I want too start developing my own film I seen that you didn't agitate or at least it wasn't shown in the video I've seen other people agitate is that just optional will I be fine if I leave it alone and not agitate
Best to agitate with a twiddle stick, it allows fresh chemistry to get to the film, but doesn't cool the mix in the way inversion agitation does. Agitate stabilizer in the conventional way and you'll have a foam mountain!
Can you reuse the developer?