I am terribly sorry about the eye-booger. I have since then bought a pocket mirror and shall bring with me at all times. If you can't stand looking at the booger, please read my article instead - robinwong.blogspot.com/2020/08/olympus-om-d-e-m10-mark-iv-review.html I had initially wanted to redo the entire video but life is getting busier here and I just don't have the time to spend another day re-shooting and re-editing this review video. After all, I am a one man crew, I did everything myself, and I sometimes do wish I have a crew with me (to check if there is anything alien on my face). Your understanding is much appreciated.
Robin, please, please! Remove the mention of an eye-booger! You are an amazing Olympus visionary. You are a great professional. You deliver a ton of value to all MFT camera photographers. No one ever is going to notice that eye-booger. We listen to you, we don’t look for imperfections. Please keep up creating amazing videos. Thank you.
@@ildarfatkullin3187 done for the title, but this pinned comment remains. As a reminder to always check myself before filming. A mistake is a mistake, I need to do better.
Robin, I love your reviews. You’re among my favourite TH-cam photography channels. I’ve been using the FF Nikon and APS-C Fujifilm systems so far, but after stumbling upon your channel, I have placed my order for my first ever M43s system. The best part of your reviews, in my opinion, is that you attach spectacular images to them. Nothing is a more powerful testament to the ability of a lens than that. Keep going!
Thanks Praveen, you are too kind. I do believe that the purpose of having a camera is to shoot images, hence the review is pointless without good images to back up the review claims (camera performance, image quality, etc). I do my best to shoot as much as I can during the review process.
Yeah man, I got the II kit for 299 at adorama, could not pass that up. 20mp sounds good, but I'm still quite satisfied with the II, even though I own a full frame camera as well.
Thanks, Robin. I've watched this twice now and thanks to you, I'm awaiting delivery of my own Mark IV. I like how you frequently cut away to actual photos you took with this camera.
I would really love to see a direct comparison to the em5 mk iii in all lighting conditions, especially low light. Terrific job on this review though, you are the reviewer I trust the most and always never fail to show how good these micro four thirds cameras really are.
I went ahead and bought this as my introduction to mirrorless cameras, in no small part due to this review. Thank you so much. I couldn't be happier with my purchase.
Thanks Robin for an excellent and insightful review of the 10 iv! I appreciate your putting the camera through the paces for us and sharing your perspective. While I'm happy witht my EM 10 ii and EM 5 iii, this new version is exciting. Please keep up your good work!
so i guess it is two step down from EM10 mark II build wise? do i really need to carry EM 1 to get the all metal construction nowadays? the all metal construction of the mark II machines made the camera felt fantastic to hold and comes with the premium feelings.
It does. It would be nice if it had a party metal body, like my MkII, but that's more for the premium "feel" than for any other reason. Plastic is often tougher. It's so great that they didn't cripple the camera, but it does seem to be eating the E-M5 MkIII's lunch! I'm sure that the E-M5 MkIV will be fantastic though.
I am gonna give this one a try. I had the mark I for a couple of years. Loved the camera but one thing that bothered me was the screen on the back would get hot, not a problem in itself, but it was uncomfortable when using the viewfinder as my the hot screen would touch my face. A weird problem not sure others have encountered.
@@alessandrocappelli1648 I don't trust the guys and I am not sure if for example sony buys 1 part, steals the stabilisation system and does not care for the rest.
When I picked up my E-M10 MkII earlier this year, I saw that used prices for the MkIII weren't that much higher, but when I compared features, the metal vs. plastic body, and the grip, I decided to go with the MkII. This MkIV looks like a very worthwhile upgrade overall, even if it would be nice if it had the same part metal body of the MkII. Plastic is fine though - it can even be better at taking knocks than metal.
I can't disagree with you. However, I can understand Olympus' decision - they want to better differentiate the products. E-M10 Mark II had too many similar features found in E-M5 and E-M1 series!
@@robinwong I'm sure that's true, but they still put out a great entry level camera with many mid-tier features. No sign of the CCH (Canon Cripple Hammer - thank you Camera Conspiracies, lol) here! Go Olympus!
Yeah, it was a bummer they decided not to have that anymore. I can understand their decision, probably the sales of the grip was so bad, they were losing money, and it makes no sense to make them if people are not buying.
Robin, as always a very informative video. But, I wish you would have said more about how the customization was dumped down on the EM 10iv. Many useful features of the 10ii are not present in the 10iv.
Great review, especially the night photos with the extremely slow shutter speed and image stabilization. This proves that this camera is suitable for travel and street photography. Also you were the first reviewer that pointed out that the sensor is from the Pen-series and not the higher OM-D models. A lot of reviewers pointed that the 20 Mpixels sensor was from the OM-D models. I found this strange because the other OM-D models use phase detect AF. I think Olympus missed by not using phase detect autofocus and mic-input. This is an entry level cameras that has to compete with Nikon D3500,D5600, Z50, Canon EOS M6 Mark II, EOS M50, 850D, Fujifilm XA-7, X-T200, Panasonic G95/G90 and Sony Alpha A6100 in a very touch market.
Robin, I recently picked up a used OMD EM10Mii with 14-42 and 40-150 lenses for very good price. So far I like it very much and do not miss 4k video as I have at least 5 other cameras that shoot 4k video if I want, I just don't. The size is perfect and near Retro styling which I like coming from full frame film for many years. This camera fits very nicely in a small bag with my older E-PL1 I got for almost nothing several years ago. This one is smaller and lighter than my G95, G7, and GX85 models and I am getting use to the menu system. Just one more tool to help me enjoy photography even more. As always enjoy your take on all things photography.
The M10 Mark II is a great camera. I've had it for quite some time and the original M10 was the first camera I fell in love with! I still use the M10 Mark II along with my M1 Mark II.
Finally, I've been waiting for your review! I've seen some reviews using the built in mic and it was actually good. Also, can you confirm that this has no clean hdmi output? Mark II has it. Good thing they brought back silent shooting in all modes.
As I have mentioned, discussion of E-M10 Mark IV's video performance will be in a coming, separate video. I don't want to make this a 20 minutes video, the last review video I did at such length, people only watched for 5 minutes.
That is interesting you mentioned that it could be the same sensor as the Pen-F. I know ISO noise wasn't as good as the E-M1 II and rolling shutter is not the best. I find with my E-M10 II rolling shutter can be a problem even if I'm moving fairly slow using electronic shutter. At 15fps, I'd be curious if the processor has improved ISO noise and rolling shutter or if it is fully dependant on the sensor.
hey Rob, I did not test the rolling shutter, but I suspect it is the same as PEN-F. The high ISO performance is clearly not as good as E-M1 Mark III or E-M5 Mark III, I can tell even before I do a side by side comparison, it is immediately obvious.
Thanks for confirming this uses same 20MP sensor as Pen-F. Mine has shipped and I bought it precisely because I love the images from my Pen-F but I absolutely hate the articulating screen and the poor ergonomics due to lack of a grip. The external grip adds too much weight. Looking forward to using the camera.
Nice! I had heard while it is only contrast based with C-AF and tracking C-AF, that it has improved greatly with the processor. This is a curiosity of mine. I really like the tilt screen instead of the side articulating screen. It won't stick out on the side when I'm doing macro in a tight spot if I need to tilt to see my focus.
I won't put high hopes on the C-AF, it is improved but the E-M5 Mark III and E-M1 Mark III with phase detect AF can do C-AF much better in both stills and videos. I will explore this in coming videos.
@@robinwong thanks! I'm keeping my eye on prices and probably buying a new body in November and it will give time to see what develops. Look forward to it!
I just purchased E-M10 Mark iV, which came with the 14-22 MM F3.5-5.6 EZ lense. I'd like to purchase another lense but don't like being redundent. Shoudl I get the 8MM F1.8 Fisheye Pro, or 7-14mm F2.8 pro. I'm mainley interested in close up and wide angel shots. Thanks.
I am not a fan of this particular camera but I think olympus has a wide variety of models suitable for everyone. This looks perfect for a short trip occasion when you want to travel light but still being able to capture good pictures.
Indeed, there is enough vareity of products for every one. Not everyone needs the weather-sealing, super professional high end features of E-M1 and E-M5 series, hence the E-M10 series will be suitable for newcomers or travel photographers.
Thanks for clarifying the issue of the sensors in the E-M10 Mark iv vs the E-M5 Mark iii. Because of the uncertain future of Olympus cameras, I wanted to pick up an extra body. I already have an E-M10 Mark iii and a Pen E-PL 7. I seriously considered putting in a pre-order on the E-M10 Mark iv, since it has a 20 MP sensor. However, I opted for the E-M5 Mark iii with a $200 price drop. Your video confirms my decision, since the sensor in the E-M5 is apparently better than the one in the new version of the E-M10. If the sensors in the latest versions of the E-M10 and E-M5 were identical, there would be little reason to buy the E-M5 given the $500 price difference.
@@robinwong Thanks, Robin. I did just that and am very happy with my choice so far. I appreciate your videos and am glad that you are continuing to do them.
Hi Robin. Always appreciate your reviews. After watching this one I have a couple of comments for the Olympus designers. 1. The idea of having a flip-down display is simply… terribly WRONG. 😔 If I want to take a selfie or taking a video of myself, very likely I will put my camera on a tripod, and this will interfere with the display. 2. How expensive is the addition of a Mic in port? Why do they want to save money on that port that can be very welcome? Have a great day. Cheers. 😉
I was thinking of switching from my phone camera to an Olympus OM-D E-M10 camera, but I have no idea which one should I get. I am taking pictures of books, room decor (for my blog), but I also take a lot of pictures of streets, old buildings, and nature. I've read that OM-D E-M10 Mark ii has the most customizable features, OM-D E-M10 Mark iii is slightly better than the previous model, but it's simplified, and OM-D E-M10 Mark IV is more qualitative, but it's quite expensive, so I was wondering if it does worth the money, since OM-D E-M10 Mark iii is the most accessible for me. But if iv it's much more qualitative than iii, then I would perhaps get it, since I long for a long-term camera.
So Robin, I took your recomendation and I purchased the OM-D-E-10 Mark IV camera. I do have a question. I would like to purchase a Panasonic 35-100mm lens. Do you think it will work well with my camera? Does Olympus have a similar lens at a similar price? Thanks for your answer.
What are the auto exposure bracketing capabilities of the EM10iv camera? I heard it has less exposure bracketing options/capabilities than EM10ii. I currently use EM10ii for architecture and landscapes always with exposure bracketing 5 frames in 1/3 stop increments. If using my Heliopan (strong) linear polarizer, then +2/3 stop exposure compensation. Could I do that using EM10iv or have those features been removed from EM10iv ?
Hi Robin. I have just bought this camera. I previously used the mark 2 and I am struggling to get a grips with the focus bracketing on the mark 4. The mark 4 appears to have gone a step backwards with the focus bracketing. I can only find it on scene select dial and there seems to be little control over setting differentials. I could of course be misunderstanding it. Could you shed some light on this for me please? The manual it came with was poor and I cannot find any vids on you tube for this matter. Any help with the new em10 mark 4 focus bracketing would be much appreciated.
Hello Robin thanks for the review, With the Olympus OMD Mark IV latest version, why Olumpus had the screen tilt downward instead of upward? With full articulated screen one can use it for selfie or with other applications. How this would work with a tripod? For that reason and lack of microphone, Inam looking at Olymous OMd 5 Mark III
Thank you Robin, for this. My preorder is in -- an upgrade to my e-m10ii which still gives me great photos. I'm keeping the e-m10ii, no sense trading it in -- it's not worth much on a trade!
Oh I dunno. The few vlogging clips I’ve seen from this camera have looked and sounded surprisingly good. Including the built in microphones. I look forward to more investigation into just how bad or good the video functions are.
Robin, thanks for the excellent review of this camera. I own a EM10 MKII and I am just thinking to upgrade to EM5 MkIII although this little new gem looks also very atractive
Robin, please help me. I bought this new E-M10 mark IV, and I pretended to use my old manual olympus OM lenses adapted to the system with an adapter. I already have the E-M1 mark II and I don't have any problem using my lens. But here I can't use it! The screen is black! What should I do? Thank you for your helping. Greetings from Chile, Southamerica!
I have them em10 mk2 and I’m thinking of upgrading, but I can’t decide between the mk4 and Panasonic. I love my Olympus but I might just save for the em5 instead because there isn’t much improvement in stills capture other than the megapixel range for the money they’re asking. I want to stay with micro 4/3 because I no longer feel like I’m working out when at a photo shoot, it’s great.
thanks for a comprehensive review. between the canon EOS RP , sony zv-e10 or this olympus . which one is a better buy for today's street photography and travel usage?
I know this is an old video but, is anyone else bummed out that regular 4/3 lens work only in manual focus mode. WTF is up with that? I started with the 510 and bought many lens. (Yes I'm a lens horder) Then updated to the OMD m2 which uses the 4/3 lens perfectly with the adapter. (nearly went broke buying adapters for all the lenses) Now I notice that the mk4 won't autofocus with them. Can anyone show me otherwise?
I used my OM10 MkIII to video a number of teaching videos for our business and the results were exceptionally good for an entry level camera even just using the internal microphones. So don't write off this series for video unless you are after very professional videos.
Robin hi. My situation is as follows: I have a 60 mm macro f2.8 lens. Olympus M10 Mark 4 now costs 700 euros. Mark 3 can be bought for 400 euros. 300 euros is a really big difference. If I buy a Mark 4, will I have significantly higher image quality? The size of the sensor doesn't bother me that much. What would you buy if you were me? Thank you for your response. PM
Hi Robin. Interesting new camera, well presented by you as usual. I particularly liked the night scene shots. Does the camera have a pop up flash? Not that I often used it on my em10ii, I find Olympus em cameras work well enough on high ISOs. Keep up the good work. 👍👍👍
Hey Glenn, yes, the E-M10 Mark IV does have the same pop up flash found in all E-M10 series, I accidentally left that out in my review. Aplologies for the confusion
@@robinwong No problem Robin. Thanks for your reply. I also watched your excellent review of the new 100-400 lens and I have one on order. Can't wait for it to arrive. I might have gone to the shop but it's in Preston, England, which has been locked down due to a second Covid scare.
Good for you to mention the focal lengths you used for those long hand held exposures. Don't want people to think the can get 1 second exposures at 40mm or higher zooms... BTW, I think the E-M10 IV will be a big hit. It's priced about the same as my original E-M10 but with much better specs.
I never withhold any information about my testing methodology and my shooting techniques. I share as much as I can and if there are other photographers with me I will get them to try the cameras/lenses and see if they can get the same results.
Great review, thank you. One question: My feelings when the Mk iii came out was it was a dumbed down version of the Mk ii (which I have and love to bits): the main feature was the lack of customisation of the buttons (and fewer I think?). Also I suspect that it fell short with Myset options but don't know for sure. How does the Mk iv compare with the ii in terms of customisable buttons and Myset settings? Thanks.
I don't think it was necessarily a dumbed down version, but more like Olympus is reshuffling their product positioning for better differentiation between E-M10 and E-M5/E-M1 series cameras. The customizations are the same as E-M10 Mark III, nothing changed from what I observed.
Thanks Robin, good review as always, glad to know that Olympus is still in the game. M43 system would be less attractive without olympus. Thanks for your review again.
Do you think EM10iv pairs well with 24-45mm Pro for the advanced level day-to-day photography? Or you recommend EM1with 24-45mm Pro as a better performer combo?
Hello Robin, nice video! May I ask you if the om10 mkiv is compatible with the flash FL-LM3 (meaning, does the flash shoe have 4 contact pins?)? It is not mentioned into the user manual, but this does not tel if it is compatible or not. Thanks a lot !
I don"t know! If I have to select one of some cameras, maybe I would rather have an OMD E5 M II. I think that, the new camera's price will be as the older E5 M II.
E-M10 Mark IV has a few big advantages over E-M5 Mark II, the image sensor being the significant one. However, if you can, go for E-M5 Mark III, it is a huge step up.
Hi Robin. Thank you for this review. How would you compare AF of olympus m10iv to one of panasonic gx9? Are those cameras comparable in terms of dynamic range? Thanks.
Hi Robin. Great review as always. Wondered if you can remember whether settings are held when switching AP modes or if they reset every time like the Mark III. Sorry if this is already asked and answered in the comments, couldn’t scan them all.
@@langhamp8912 Not so quite dumb or anything, if they had the 121-point PDAF sensor implemented into the $700-800 EM10IV then it would potentially outsell the 5 and 1 series due to the competitive pricing. No one wants a "civil war" between models, so they made a safe call by not giving it the PDAF equipped sensor, although selling this at that kind of price is rather tempting because competitors like Sony A6100 and Fujifilm XT-200 are very OP rivals when compared to Olympus EM-10IV
Thats the problem today, if you are a pro or really heavy into the hobby of photography you would buy EM5 model, all around just better. As a entry level camera most will stick with their cellphone.
Great review. Im interested to get this camera. Saying that I really like sony colour. Do you think olympus can achieve same colour profile, photo and video slog?
I am terribly sorry about the eye-booger. I have since then bought a pocket mirror and shall bring with me at all times.
If you can't stand looking at the booger, please read my article instead - robinwong.blogspot.com/2020/08/olympus-om-d-e-m10-mark-iv-review.html
I had initially wanted to redo the entire video but life is getting busier here and I just don't have the time to spend another day re-shooting and re-editing this review video. After all, I am a one man crew, I did everything myself, and I sometimes do wish I have a crew with me (to check if there is anything alien on my face). Your understanding is much appreciated.
Robin, please, please! Remove the mention of an eye-booger! You are an amazing Olympus visionary. You are a great professional. You deliver a ton of value to all MFT camera photographers. No one ever is going to notice that eye-booger. We listen to you, we don’t look for imperfections. Please keep up creating amazing videos. Thank you.
@@ildarfatkullin3187 done for the title, but this pinned comment remains. As a reminder to always check myself before filming. A mistake is a mistake, I need to do better.
Hey! You just learned something. That’s cool. I learn from you all the time :)
damn to be honest I really wouldn't have noticed if I didn't see this comment and now cannot unsee
@@iWantAMod oooppss
Robin, I love your reviews. You’re among my favourite TH-cam photography channels. I’ve been using the FF Nikon and APS-C Fujifilm systems so far, but after stumbling upon your channel, I have placed my order for my first ever M43s system. The best part of your reviews, in my opinion, is that you attach spectacular images to them. Nothing is a more powerful testament to the ability of a lens than that. Keep going!
Thanks Praveen, you are too kind. I do believe that the purpose of having a camera is to shoot images, hence the review is pointless without good images to back up the review claims (camera performance, image quality, etc). I do my best to shoot as much as I can during the review process.
This camera came out of no where. Glad your review is just as fast. Thank you!
Rocking the em10 mkii for almost 4 years and it's still capable to capture amazing photos,but the new 20mp sensor is very nice...
Yeah man, I got the II kit for 299 at adorama, could not pass that up. 20mp sounds good, but I'm still quite satisfied with the II, even though I own a full frame camera as well.
This is the preview I've been waiting for.
Thanks!
I do admire your enthusiastic presentation and detail review. Your deo images are also fantastic!
Thank you for the nice review Robin!
Bedankt
Thanks!
I'm glad you're still here making videos!
I am glad to be still here
Thanks, Robin. I've watched this twice now and thanks to you, I'm awaiting delivery of my own Mark IV. I like how you frequently cut away to actual photos you took with this camera.
Have you received your camera yet? How do you like it if so? :D
Thanks Robin just what I was looking for - great review!! Much appreciated :)
I would really love to see a direct comparison to the em5 mk iii in all lighting conditions, especially low light. Terrific job on this review though, you are the reviewer I trust the most and always never fail to show how good these micro four thirds cameras really are.
I went ahead and bought this as my introduction to mirrorless cameras, in no small part due to this review. Thank you so much. I couldn't be happier with my purchase.
Thanks Robin for an excellent and insightful review of the 10 iv! I appreciate your putting the camera through the paces for us and sharing your perspective. While I'm happy witht my EM 10 ii and EM 5 iii, this new version is exciting. Please keep up your good work!
Thanks Gilbert, glad I can share and review the camera!
Awesome videos. And you have such a good character and sympathetic mood.
so i guess it is two step down from EM10 mark II build wise? do i really need to carry EM 1 to get the all metal construction nowadays?
the all metal construction of the mark II machines made the camera felt fantastic to hold and comes with the premium feelings.
2:58 "it doesn't feel s**t at all" haha made me laugh, and I got what you were saying. Nice review. Thank you for sharing.
cheap, not shit. lol
I just like listening to Robin.
Another best and honest review video. Good job Robin. You got 1 like from me 👍.
Thanks, appreciate that
E-M10 (especially mk2 for my taste) was already a fantastic camera. I don't know what to say for mk4. It looks amazing!
It does. It would be nice if it had a party metal body, like my MkII, but that's more for the premium "feel" than for any other reason. Plastic is often tougher. It's so great that they didn't cripple the camera, but it does seem to be eating the E-M5 MkIII's lunch! I'm sure that the E-M5 MkIV will be fantastic though.
@Volkan Olgun I'm of the same opinion.
I am gonna give this one a try. I had the mark I for a couple of years. Loved the camera but one thing that bothered me was the screen on the back would get hot, not a problem in itself, but it was uncomfortable when using the viewfinder as my the hot screen would touch my face. A weird problem not sure others have encountered.
finally a great camera without major flaws for photography, I would be sad, if this is the last camera with Olympus name on it :-(
Why do you say so? :(
@@alessandrocappelli1648 I don't trust the guys and I am not sure if for example sony buys 1 part, steals the stabilisation system and does not care for the rest.
When I picked up my E-M10 MkII earlier this year, I saw that used prices for the MkIII weren't that much higher, but when I compared features, the metal vs. plastic body, and the grip, I decided to go with the MkII.
This MkIV looks like a very worthwhile upgrade overall, even if it would be nice if it had the same part metal body of the MkII. Plastic is fine though - it can even be better at taking knocks than metal.
I can't disagree with you. However, I can understand Olympus' decision - they want to better differentiate the products. E-M10 Mark II had too many similar features found in E-M5 and E-M1 series!
@@robinwong I'm sure that's true, but they still put out a great entry level camera with many mid-tier features. No sign of the CCH (Canon Cripple Hammer - thank you Camera Conspiracies, lol) here! Go Olympus!
I wish it has option grip like the one on em10 mk2 ((ECG-3)
Yeah, it was a bummer they decided not to have that anymore. I can understand their decision, probably the sales of the grip was so bad, they were losing money, and it makes no sense to make them if people are not buying.
@@robinwong well I think because now screen have to flip down so grip may block it.thanks anyway ,have a good day.
8:40 - I really like your street photography, Robin.
Robin, as always a very informative video. But, I wish you would have said more about how the customization was dumped down on the EM 10iv. Many useful features of the 10ii are not present in the 10iv.
Great review, especially the night photos with the extremely slow shutter speed and image stabilization. This proves that this camera is suitable for travel and street photography. Also you were the first reviewer that pointed out that the sensor is from the Pen-series and not the higher OM-D models. A lot of reviewers pointed that the 20 Mpixels sensor was from the OM-D models. I found this strange because the other OM-D models use phase detect AF. I think Olympus missed by not using phase detect autofocus and mic-input. This is an entry level cameras that has to compete with Nikon D3500,D5600, Z50, Canon EOS M6 Mark II, EOS M50, 850D, Fujifilm XA-7, X-T200, Panasonic G95/G90 and Sony Alpha A6100 in a very touch market.
The Fade-Out does not work when you have edited a movie and then save it.
Robin, I recently picked up a used OMD EM10Mii with 14-42 and 40-150 lenses for very good price. So far I like it very much and do not miss 4k video as I have at least 5 other cameras that shoot 4k video if I want, I just don't. The size is perfect and near Retro styling which I like coming from full frame film for many years. This camera fits very nicely in a small bag with my older E-PL1 I got for almost nothing several years ago. This one is smaller and lighter than my G95, G7, and GX85 models and I am getting use to the menu system. Just one more tool to help me enjoy photography even more. As always enjoy your take on all things photography.
The M10 Mark II is a great camera. I've had it for quite some time and the original M10 was the first camera I fell in love with! I still use the M10 Mark II along with my M1 Mark II.
Finally, I've been waiting for your review! I've seen some reviews using the built in mic and it was actually good. Also, can you confirm that this has no clean hdmi output? Mark II has it. Good thing they brought back silent shooting in all modes.
As I have mentioned, discussion of E-M10 Mark IV's video performance will be in a coming, separate video. I don't want to make this a 20 minutes video, the last review video I did at such length, people only watched for 5 minutes.
That is interesting you mentioned that it could be the same sensor as the Pen-F. I know ISO noise wasn't as good as the E-M1 II and rolling shutter is not the best. I find with my E-M10 II rolling shutter can be a problem even if I'm moving fairly slow using electronic shutter. At 15fps, I'd be curious if the processor has improved ISO noise and rolling shutter or if it is fully dependant on the sensor.
hey Rob, I did not test the rolling shutter, but I suspect it is the same as PEN-F. The high ISO performance is clearly not as good as E-M1 Mark III or E-M5 Mark III, I can tell even before I do a side by side comparison, it is immediately obvious.
@@robinwong that is truly valuable information. Thank you!
Thanks for confirming this uses same 20MP sensor as Pen-F. Mine has shipped and I bought it precisely because I love the images from my Pen-F but I absolutely hate the articulating screen and the poor ergonomics due to lack of a grip. The external grip adds too much weight. Looking forward to using the camera.
Nice! I had heard while it is only contrast based with C-AF and tracking C-AF, that it has improved greatly with the processor. This is a curiosity of mine. I really like the tilt screen instead of the side articulating screen. It won't stick out on the side when I'm doing macro in a tight spot if I need to tilt to see my focus.
Yet lots of videographers prefer side articulating screens
I won't put high hopes on the C-AF, it is improved but the E-M5 Mark III and E-M1 Mark III with phase detect AF can do C-AF much better in both stills and videos. I will explore this in coming videos.
@@robinwong thanks! I'm keeping my eye on prices and probably buying a new body in November and it will give time to see what develops. Look forward to it!
Robin, you’re AWESOME!
Thanks so much for the informational review! You're awesome!
Thank you! Wondering if this is any more pocketable than the Pen F. I'm looking for something to carry everywhere.
I just purchased E-M10 Mark iV, which came with the 14-22 MM F3.5-5.6 EZ lense. I'd like to purchase another lense but don't like being redundent. Shoudl I get the 8MM F1.8 Fisheye Pro, or 7-14mm F2.8 pro. I'm mainley interested in close up and wide angel shots. Thanks.
Thanks for the updates Robin. I'm new to your channel.
I'm still hold my original Olympus OMD E-M10, nothing different when it comes to photography
I am not a fan of this particular camera but I think olympus has a wide variety of models suitable for everyone. This looks perfect for a short trip occasion when you want to travel light but still being able to capture good pictures.
Indeed, there is enough vareity of products for every one. Not everyone needs the weather-sealing, super professional high end features of E-M1 and E-M5 series, hence the E-M10 series will be suitable for newcomers or travel photographers.
I have a Olympus 2100 first digital. I am going to purchase M4. I have the M3 and M1 along with OMD E1 M1.I prefer my M10. Love your blog.
Hi I have got an OM-D Mark IV but my 4/3 Leses will not Auto focus can you help Please
So disappionted about the omd em10iv, in raw file can edit any more.😖😖😖
Unfortunately no microphone input jack. Hope Olympus delivers an firmware update and enables the micro USB for a external microphone adapter...
I don't think that is possible.....
Robin Wong that’s sad. The USB port in the camera is actually bidirectional. And the processor is also powerful enough ...
Thanks for clarifying the issue of the sensors in the E-M10 Mark iv vs the E-M5 Mark iii. Because of the uncertain future of Olympus cameras, I wanted to pick up an extra body. I already have an E-M10 Mark iii and a Pen E-PL 7. I seriously considered putting in a pre-order on the E-M10 Mark iv, since it has a 20 MP sensor. However, I opted for the E-M5 Mark iii with a $200 price drop. Your video confirms my decision, since the sensor in the E-M5 is apparently better than the one in the new version of the E-M10. If the sensors in the latest versions of the E-M10 and E-M5 were identical, there would be little reason to buy the E-M5 given the $500 price difference.
Go for E-M5 Mark III, it is a more complete camera, definitely a step up from the E-M10 series, with better features and shooting capabilities.
@@robinwong Thanks, Robin. I did just that and am very happy with my choice so far. I appreciate your videos and am glad that you are continuing to do them.
Domu still consider it is a good option to buy this or there is something similar but more current in the market...
Hi Robin.
Always appreciate your reviews. After watching this one I have a couple of comments for the Olympus designers.
1. The idea of having a flip-down display is simply… terribly WRONG. 😔 If I want to take a selfie or taking a video of myself, very likely I will put my camera on a tripod, and this will interfere with the display.
2. How expensive is the addition of a Mic in port? Why do they want to save money on that port that can be very welcome?
Have a great day. Cheers. 😉
I was thinking of switching from my phone camera to an Olympus OM-D E-M10 camera, but I have no idea which one should I get. I am taking pictures of books, room decor (for my blog), but I also take a lot of pictures of streets, old buildings, and nature. I've read that OM-D E-M10 Mark ii has the most customizable features, OM-D E-M10 Mark iii is slightly better than the previous model, but it's simplified, and OM-D E-M10 Mark IV is more qualitative, but it's quite expensive, so I was wondering if it does worth the money, since OM-D E-M10 Mark iii is the most accessible for me. But if iv it's much more qualitative than iii, then I would perhaps get it, since I long for a long-term camera.
So Robin, I took your recomendation and I purchased the OM-D-E-10 Mark IV camera. I do have a question. I would like to purchase a Panasonic 35-100mm lens. Do you think it will work well with my camera? Does Olympus have a similar lens at a similar price? Thanks for your answer.
What are the auto exposure bracketing capabilities of the EM10iv camera? I heard it has less exposure bracketing options/capabilities than EM10ii.
I currently use EM10ii for architecture and landscapes always with exposure bracketing 5 frames in 1/3 stop increments. If using my Heliopan (strong) linear polarizer, then +2/3 stop exposure compensation.
Could I do that using EM10iv or have those features been removed from EM10iv ?
Do you think the Olympus Mark IV is better than the Sony A6100?
Olympus em10 Mark IV has 4k Photo as gx9 or not? Thank you Walter
Hi Robin. I have just bought this camera. I previously used the mark 2 and I am struggling to get a grips with the focus bracketing on the mark 4. The mark 4 appears to have gone a step backwards with the focus bracketing. I can only find it on scene select dial and there seems to be little control over setting differentials. I could of course be misunderstanding it. Could you shed some light on this for me please? The manual it came with was poor and I cannot find any vids on you tube for this matter. Any help with the new em10 mark 4 focus bracketing would be much appreciated.
Hello Robin thanks for the review,
With the Olympus OMD Mark IV latest version, why Olumpus had the screen tilt downward instead of upward? With full articulated screen one can use it for selfie or with other applications. How this would work with a tripod?
For that reason and lack of microphone, Inam looking at Olymous OMd 5 Mark III
Thank you Robin, for this. My preorder is in -- an upgrade to my e-m10ii which still gives me great photos. I'm keeping the e-m10ii, no sense trading it in -- it's not worth much on a trade!
what funktion have the OMD 10M4, what the PenF don't have?
Which is the most powerful zoom for this camera , is there a 32x zoom?
Wow, my my em5II feels outdated all of a sudden... but I did have fun with my shutter therapy today :)
Tx, Robin!
E-M5 Mark II is not an outdated camera, it is still every bit capable today
@@robinwong I know, I know... 😄 just kidding. Love my EM5mk2.
Hi I want to buy a budget cam was thinking on the sony nex6 or e10markii any recommendations
Oh I dunno. The few vlogging clips I’ve seen from this camera have looked and sounded surprisingly good. Including the built in microphones. I look forward to more investigation into just how bad or good the video functions are.
Thanks Christopher, the video discussion of E-M10 Mark IV is definitely coming, I am working on that now
Robin, thanks for the excellent review of this camera. I own a EM10 MKII and I am just thinking to upgrade to EM5 MkIII although this little new gem looks also very atractive
Robin, please help me. I bought this new E-M10 mark IV, and I pretended to use my old manual olympus OM lenses adapted to the system with an adapter. I already have the E-M1 mark II and I don't have any problem using my lens. But here I can't use it! The screen is black! What should I do? Thank you for your helping. Greetings from Chile, Southamerica!
How is the focusing compared to the new EM5? I like the screen for street photography instead of flippy screens.
Its S-AF should be very similar (thereby excellent) but C-AF not as good as the E-M5 III due to lacking PDAF
I'd still take the E-M5 Mark III, it is better in every single way - weather sealed, better IS, better AF, better image sensor, etc!
Is there any way to get an external microphone? In this new version still there is no microphone port, this is bad :(
I have them em10 mk2 and I’m thinking of upgrading, but I can’t decide between the mk4 and Panasonic. I love my Olympus but I might just save for the em5 instead because there isn’t much improvement in stills capture other than the megapixel range for the money they’re asking. I want to stay with micro 4/3 because I no longer feel like I’m working out when at a photo shoot, it’s great.
thanks for a comprehensive review. between the canon EOS RP , sony zv-e10 or this olympus . which one is a better buy for today's street photography and travel usage?
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Which is best value for money the mk iii or mk IV?
Hi there, Is this still worth it in 2024 ??
the folding screen is not enough of course in em10m3, 20mp is superfluous as for me, only the load is extra on the processor
Beautiful camera
Great review thanks. Would love to know if the shutter sound is any different from the MKII.
I know this is an old video but, is anyone else bummed out that regular 4/3 lens work only in manual focus mode. WTF is up with that? I started with the 510 and bought many lens. (Yes I'm a lens horder) Then updated to the OMD m2 which uses the 4/3 lens perfectly with the adapter. (nearly went broke buying adapters for all the lenses) Now I notice that the mk4 won't autofocus with them. Can anyone show me otherwise?
Excellent video 😮!
eye booger? i didn't notice. i was focused on the beautiful omd 10.4. Awesome review!
Thanks, you are too kind
So do you think it would do a good job with birds not in flight and still wildlife? Also Macro?
Watched a couple of your videos now and they are great 👍
As a complete beginner to photography would this be a good starting point for me?
Robin can you make video with continuous autofocus test?
EM5 mark iii now available in UK at 649 GBP in black or 659 in chrome. I loke black anyway. New with FL LM3 flash. Is this a great bargain Robin?
I used my OM10 MkIII to video a number of teaching videos for our business and the results were exceptionally good for an entry level camera even just using the internal microphones. So don't write off this series for video unless you are after very professional videos.
Agreed, My discussion on the video performance of E-M10 Mark IV is coming up very soon.
Robin hi. My situation is as follows: I have a 60 mm macro f2.8 lens. Olympus M10 Mark 4 now costs 700 euros. Mark 3 can be bought for 400 euros. 300 euros is a really big difference. If I buy a Mark 4, will I have significantly higher image quality? The size of the sensor doesn't bother me that much. What would you buy if you were me? Thank you for your response. PM
Hi Robin. Interesting new camera, well presented by you as usual. I particularly liked the night scene shots. Does the camera have a pop up flash? Not that I often used it on my em10ii, I find Olympus em cameras work well enough on high ISOs. Keep up the good work. 👍👍👍
Hey Glenn, yes, the E-M10 Mark IV does have the same pop up flash found in all E-M10 series, I accidentally left that out in my review. Aplologies for the confusion
@@robinwong No problem Robin. Thanks for your reply. I also watched your excellent review of the new 100-400 lens and I have one on order. Can't wait for it to arrive. I might have gone to the shop but it's in Preston, England, which has been locked down due to a second Covid scare.
Good for you to mention the focal lengths you used for those long hand held exposures. Don't want people to think the can get 1 second exposures at 40mm or higher zooms... BTW, I think the E-M10 IV will be a big hit. It's priced about the same as my original E-M10 but with much better specs.
I never withhold any information about my testing methodology and my shooting techniques. I share as much as I can and if there are other photographers with me I will get them to try the cameras/lenses and see if they can get the same results.
Great review, thank you. One question: My feelings when the Mk iii came out was it was a dumbed down version of the Mk ii (which I have and love to bits): the main feature was the lack of customisation of the buttons (and fewer I think?). Also I suspect that it fell short with Myset options but don't know for sure. How does the Mk iv compare with the ii in terms of customisable buttons and Myset settings? Thanks.
I don't think it was necessarily a dumbed down version, but more like Olympus is reshuffling their product positioning for better differentiation between E-M10 and E-M5/E-M1 series cameras. The customizations are the same as E-M10 Mark III, nothing changed from what I observed.
@@robinwong Yes, maybe I was a bit harsh. Thank you.
Thanks Robin, good review as always, glad to know that Olympus is still in the game. M43 system would be less attractive without olympus. Thanks for your review again.
Hi Robin, I have the Mark III S, but I only find reviews about the III and IV. Is the IV newer/better?
I just want to buy things thing for the looks of it... godamm that's a cute design.... !! I have no need for it, but I want it!!! Beautiful design!
What aspect ratios can you set?
The same with all other Olympus cameras but if you shoot RAW you only get 4:3
Do you think EM10iv pairs well with 24-45mm Pro for the advanced level day-to-day photography? Or you recommend EM1with 24-45mm Pro as a better performer combo?
I'm assuming you mean 12-45mm pro. It should pair well but you might need a prime lens to go along with it and cover lower light situations
Robin, I purchased a Mark iii S. What is the diff to iii or iv?
Hello Robin, nice video! May I ask you if the om10 mkiv is compatible with the flash FL-LM3 (meaning, does the flash shoe have 4 contact pins?)? It is not mentioned into the user manual, but this does not tel if it is compatible or not. Thanks a lot !
I don"t know! If I have to select one of some cameras, maybe I would rather have an OMD E5 M II. I think that, the new camera's price will be as the older E5 M II.
E-M10 Mark IV has a few big advantages over E-M5 Mark II, the image sensor being the significant one. However, if you can, go for E-M5 Mark III, it is a huge step up.
Hi Robin. Thank you for this review. How would you compare AF of olympus m10iv to one of panasonic gx9? Are those cameras comparable in terms of dynamic range? Thanks.
Hi Robin. Great review as always. Wondered if you can remember whether settings are held when switching AP modes or if they reset every time like the Mark III. Sorry if this is already asked and answered in the comments, couldn’t scan them all.
The settings are reset every time you switch AP modes.
Robin Wong That’s a shame. Ah well. Thanks for letting us know.
WHY o WHY Oli doesn't implemented 121 - point PDAF system in this camera ?
They have technology and this is the biggest advantages over Panasonic.
e-m5 mark iii or e-m1 series have it. e-m10 mark iv is an entry grade camera.
Because Olympus is dumb. Everyone else sticks contrast and phase in their entry level cameras years ago.
@@langhamp8912 Not so quite dumb or anything, if they had the 121-point PDAF sensor implemented into the $700-800 EM10IV then it would potentially outsell the 5 and 1 series due to the competitive pricing. No one wants a "civil war" between models, so they made a safe call by not giving it the PDAF equipped sensor, although selling this at that kind of price is rather tempting because competitors like Sony A6100 and Fujifilm XT-200 are very OP rivals when compared to Olympus EM-10IV
@@georgephotography8704 Is there even a camera available that doesn't have PD which costs $700? Other than the EM10.4?
there is the remote shutter release control?
You may your use smartphone to trigger the camera wirelessly.
@@robinwong yes, i know. but i want the release . Do you know if?
Tripod socket?
Is this a good alternative for still photography only or should I then go for the EM5iii? (I never do video's).
Thats the problem today, if you are a pro or really heavy into the hobby of photography you would buy EM5 model, all around just better. As a entry level camera most will stick with their cellphone.
this guy is so sweet, thank you!!
Great review. Im interested to get this camera. Saying that I really like sony colour. Do you think olympus can achieve same colour profile, photo and video slog?
My video part of E-M10 Mark IV discussion will be done separately, working on that now. Please stay tuned.