Can’t get a new Raspberry Pi? I test the 10 year old Pi 1 512MB in 2022.
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- Overclock your Pi 1 at your own risk
I was using these settings on Recalbox, Retropie and Raspberry Pi OS 32bit
arm_freq=1050
core_freq=550
sdram_freq=550
over_voltage=14
force_turbo=1
In Raspberry Pi OS I improved performance with Zram
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I got donated a Pi 1 with 256MB in 2014 I believe. It was unstable and would crash on full load. Tracked down the issue to the polyfuse which is a self healing fuse. When the cpu had some load the voltage over the fuse dropped too much for the cpu to work properly so I bypassed it and it worked and still works perfectly. Loads of websites highly advise against doing that but my Pi 1 is not in a production environment. I use it to play around and test stuff. Yes, it is slow by all means but simple stuff still works.
Would you mind telling me what useful projects can be taken on with pi 1?
I still use my Pi 1 Model B as a WIFi modem for retro computers and run TCPSER. I also use a Pi2 as a network print server, internet filter, and file server.
Larger cards easy to swap, super convenient large HDMI. The good old days. Great for getting started in Pi.
I bought a Model B Pi 1 with 128MB RAM when they first came out. I still have it and it's now dedicated to running RISC OS, which it does brilliantly. It's in a case so the full size SD card isn't an issue.
Makes me want to get mine out and mess with it again. Itll be like traveling back in time. Got my model B+ mid 2015 in a Make: brand kit from Radio Shack.
RIP, Radio Shack.
Reborn in the USA, might have died again with the chip shortage ..
Cool video. I've had one of those era pis for a while but I've not yet found an essential use for it. I'll definitely invest in one of those FanShims and maybe try overclocking and who know's :)
Nothing outright wrong with older technology; just don't expect it to perform equally to later revisions. I've a Pi of similar age acting as a feeder for FlightAware and ADS-B Exchange - barring utility blips, it's been incredibly reliable.
I pick up Pis since the original and keep them in my collection.
Back then I remember using the Pi 1 as a replacement PC for a couple of weeks actually as I knew mobile websites were still a thing and other than e-mail, music and IRC I didn't need much at that time.
The revision B+ actually has four USB ports, I have that one myself.
Yes, I like the B+ because you've got enough USB ports for keyboard, mouse and a wifi adapter plus a spare if you want to plug in a hard disk. Don't also forget that the B+ was also MicroSD too.
It's funny that I have just recently dug out one of my original Pi 1's for a little project where it is being used as a driver board for a little Adafruit FM transmitter setup - and in command line mode it works perfectly for that. Just trying to think of things I can use the older Pi's for. I have a collection of 1's and Zeros (sounds very digital!!) sitting around doing nothing (including one from the original batch of 100,000 in 2012). In command line mode they are still quite capable, but in desktop mode they do struggle - especially with the latest OS images. Also as they only draw about 700mA of power, any old charger will run them.
Something that I find a little bit "disturbing" about the whole Pi availability situation is that, as a subscriber to the paper version of The MagPi magazine (the official Raspberry Pi magazine), literally all of the October 2022 issue is devoted to the Pi Pico and hardly anything on the main Pi SBCs.
I would probably infer from that alone that the availability situation probably isn't going to improve any time soon, given that the Pico is readily available.
seems that the build is once a year for the SBCs so likely not till early next year now seeing industry got all the Pis!
@@RamonInNZ I don't believe what you are saying is the case.
The Raspberry Pi Foundation has charitable status due to the contributions that it makes towards IT education in schools - that alone puts restrictions on what profits it can make.
I would suggest that the Foundation's charitable status probably means that it has to make supplying to schools and research a priority, not necessarily industry.
I think a lot of people are clearly annoyed about not being able to get hold of a Raspberry Pi themselves and are making some assumptions that are probably incorrect.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 watch this: th-cam.com/video/K19LM9Xt6Qw/w-d-xo.html
Interesting. I was given a Pi 1 a few years ago, and the only thing I used it for was to extract the EEPROM information from an original Xbox. Now I’ve seen this video I should dig it out and play with it further.
Older SBC and thin clients make great pihole and media servers, respectively. I like to have two pihole blockers for uptime and load balancing.
I had a pi zero gen 1. Runing Megadrive the audio was all over the place. But, as you've shown, these old pi models are still useful, if you temper your expectations.
As a previous comment states I do exactly the same as Johnm. I use my pi 1 model b 512mb for purely running Risc OS. Runs so snappy and it's only over clocked to 950mhz but I use it weekly even use for all my emails and telegram. Sometimes even play the odd game of Quake and Theme Hospital. Just struggles with Linux on the older Pi so I don't use it on there.
Bought this for 25$ with case and some other stuff. Thank you.
I am just doing a scratch Gentoo Linux build on the original Pi B just to see how "lite" an OS I can build and run on it. It does run XFCE quite well though I might try "ultra-lite" and see what OpenBox, FVWM or even i3 can do with it.
The images for third party hardware are very cool. I have an old Samsung Chromebook that I'd like to run Linux on so the Exynos image looks interesting, though I expect I'll struggle to get it to boot anything that takes it outside the secure Google enclave. I know it's possible though because I had Arch and Mate running on it for six months or so until an update made it unbootable.
2:41 there was!! It's dubbed The Raspberry Pi 1 B+ and it seemed like it was more of a test bed for the Pi 2B+ when it came out. the Plus platform was where there were two more USB ports.
Hello there, bought my Pi 1 B from CEX for £7 a few years back & it remained on the shelf. I've just come across it & my interest in it has sparked again! I've done some searching & found that the Pi 2 B has 1GB memory, I'm a newcomer to the Pi & I'm interested in what they can do.
I recognise the menu system, from AutoBleem OS.......does the PlayStation Classic have Pi architecture?
Great video,
And good premise behind the video
Why use a 4 if a 1 will do
I have a couple of pi 1B models, slightly later than yours as the SD card holder has a cover. I have as a file server and the other is earmarked for a media player for my daughter for her DVD’s I am bUsy ripping. They are great, still today, especially when running via the command line.
To my knowledge, the SD card port on the Pi 1B never had a cover, just a "frame" that sat around the SD card holding it on to the contacts.
I think you are possibly getting confused with the Pi 1 B+ which went to four USB 2.0 ports and a microSD interface, which is a covered slot.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 I stand corrected. I double checked today and you are right. I am clearly losing it.
@@slowlymakingsmoke No need to "stand corrected". If I make a mistake I would expect someone to put me straight too.
I still have my Raspberry Pi 1B working now a days as a Samba Server with an external hard drive.
Is it still possible to get hold of the original operating system
Just for the hell of it?
I use a raspberry pi 1 with 512 mb ram with node-red. With this I run the home automation in my house, for 5 years now, which consists of a lot of esp32/8266 with mqtt. The secret so that it does not fail is that you do not have to use the swap memory on the SD card. When I need more memory in other applications, I use zram. At home, which is the place where I do all my experiments (because there is no problem if it fails), I try to ensure that all my automation uses less than 512 MB of ram. Surprisingly, they use less than 200mb of ram. In addition, I use another raspberry of the same model to test more elaborate automations that I am going to use in production. If this version of raspberry can handle the stress, then I'm confident a newer raspberry can handle the job.
Have you tried Blast 16? Nice Sega emulation software. Brilliant in a retroflag case too.
I haven’t
I think a lot of the slow speed is the sd card and not the single core which is going quite fast. It seems to be slow loading of programs.
I found the board very limited in todays things. However, where it can shine and provide a really good return use case is just as a wireguard VPN server. Its a super cheap and throw-away solution to setting up a home VPN, and its perf now for other things is so poor that you don't want or need to pull it out of prod for other use cases. Set, forget.
It depends if you are a "tinkerer" or not. I love messing around with lower powered computers just seeing what I can get them to do. My main OS since 2003 has been Gentoo Linux and it's designed to be completely scaleable and "build Linux how you want it".
I also wonder another thing.. Y'know how modern kernels and modern programs are chock full of security redundancies and other stuff that just hogs all of the CPU and RAM? Would a PI-1 not work better if someone were to specifically hunt-down ancient desktop environments(actual _versions,_ not _flavors)_ and ancient programs to run on it? Maybe even an ancient kernel that's older than the one the original rpi people used waaay back then?
I am already testing the first version of Raspbian from another comment. It’s reasonably fast but not very stable.
I wish I could use my PIs as "normal" computers but.. my only available monitor is a huion drawing tablet and it's a huuuuge pain in the butt to get it to work on a raspberry pi because it tends to throw infinite-reset loops(monitor rapidly turning on and off) with its all-in-one cable, is a huge burden because the monitor needs two&aHalf USB ports just to turn it on.. and uh... BIG usb-C cables are very hard and not bendy so they're a wirey mess just to use a tiny little PI
I only use them as remote desktop sessions because it's so inconvenient to set them up as desktops :P
Picked one up New in box from eBay.
But how much did you have to pay for it? There are plenty available on eBay if you want to "give a scalper a treat".
Do you have a copy of Half-Life? I'd love to know how well Xash works on there and if it would run HL at full speed. I was amazed when I tried it on my Pi3 and it ran with zero stutters, but I had it clocked to 1.2ghz. Although period correct hardware was about as good as the Pi1, so it might run at full speed on there too.
It’s available with Pikiss you need to supply the original
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Anyone know, would the Raspberry Pi Zero 2/w running MotionEye OS be able to receive two Wyze cameras w/ the Dafang firmware installed via RTSP Protocol? Would the Pi4 be able to do it? I'd guess the Pi4 could handle more than two RTSP video feeds, right?
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7:23 Kick punch it’s all in the mind. If you wanna test me, I’m sure you’ll find, the things I teach ya, is sure to beat ya. But nevertheless you’ll get a lesson from teacher! 💯
PI's never age
Does it play mp4 files ? There is no LibreELEC for the Pi1. Can you stream TH-cam with a wifi-dongle ?
Possibly low resolution mp4. Video is definitely not the strong area of older Pi’s
it's true that the pi 4b availability is not very good right now. however in spite of that i managed to score 2 brand new + 2 refurbs in the last 3-6 months. so it isn't exactly zero. in fact it would seem the model with an even worse availability than that is the zero 2w. for example every week farnell keeps emailing me a continuus +12 months manufacturer lead time on back order. which is to say there is no real or valid eta information or estimate coming from the supplier. in addition to that there is due a popup shop in london at the end of this month (october, so around haloween time). and they have now stated that there will be no zero 2w's for that event. which was unlike the previous summertime popup day in edinburough earlier this year.when they did have some limited supply.
so looking at what i have and dont have here. i am missing 1x compute module cm4. because berrybase de refused to approve me for membership in their german maker club. and i am also missing having any number (1+) of the zero 2w's.... of which i need at least a minimum of 1 of those to get by with
however i do have enough 4b's and picos. so it feels like a mixed bag to me. what would be really cool however is to hear about and find out more technical details all about these supply chain issues that are holding up the manufacturing. would love to know i think it is a fascinating topic. and also with clearer reasons behind then it probably would not feel so bad from the consumer perspective (no longer like some endless black hole, which is what my reapeating farnell backorder reminders keeps feeling like).
The Pi zero 2W is great
@@leepspvideo i know!!! should have bought some during the launch but never used my zero (original version) for anything. it just sat in a drawer for months. So that was my rational and reasoning for not buying any zero 2w's... until the time later on when i actually had some really good reasons to want get any (at which point there was no longer any stock anymore)
Please don't don't mention the Edinburgh pop up- It just had to be the one time I couldn't go to Edinburgh, THE ONE TIME I GO SOMEWHERE
@@trainsarecool190 lol sorry to hear it man. what do we call these predicament, reverse fomo or something like that. anyhow my sympathies. best thing would be for the raspberry pi foundation to be a bit more forthcoming about the current supply chain issues. would be a helpful news to hear something more about those matters imho
@@leepspvideo Purely as a hardware comparison, the Orange Pi Zero 2 "beats" the Pi Zero 2W because it has a similar form factor, a faster quad core CPU and that all-important 1GB RAM. But software support is extremely important and that's where the Raspberry Pi always wins.
i have an old pi 1b 512 mb but finally which os is the best for it ??
Raspberry Pi OS works well considering. Puppy Linux was reasonable on a Pi zero
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Bro I’m waiting for my pi, I ordered on august or July 2022 and it said it’ll be here on September 2022 I was so excited but then it said it’ll be delivered on feb 2023, I ordered for back order but whyyy 😭
I have been waiting for a CM4 since March
I dont think there was a 1Gb Pi 1 model B, I have the 256Kb and the 512Kb, it has to be a mistake.
I wonder what they would send out. Pi 3 or 4 1GB would be good for the money. Might be worth ordering to see what I get.
@@leepspvideo There definitely was not a Pi 1 with 1GB. The original Pi 1 B came out in 2012 with 256MB RAM, then a 512MB RAM version followed soon after. The Pi B+ came out in 2014, also with 512MB RAM but the main difference between it and the Pi 1 B was the B+ had 4 USB 2.O ports and microSD card slot whilst the B had 2 USB 2.0 ports and SD card slot - but that was it.
One bootable usb instead of a hand full for mutiple operating .... ANY LIVE LINUX USB operating system will work from this drive at the same time.............
Lee , re: your comments on rpi-imager in the process of trying to get my main Ryzen computer to duel boot between Win 11 and Ubuntu Mate I blew up my Win11 drive and my back up in 1 fowl move.. Totally my fault !!!! But out of hardship I found an amazing piece of software that some one like you using a lot different images would find useful ... First I had to remember where I got my image from and them I remembered the W.O.R project... My problem I can download the Win 11 image and the Win11 installer but I now don't have a working Win 11 computer any more .. You can delete the files off a """Cloneziller bootable usb""" but there is one file in Win11 that will not copy across and drags your computer to a grinding halt.... Just another drive with Ubuntu Mate on it... Just how many boot able usb's am i going to have to keep ??? Three or four so far >> Win 11 , Ubuntu Mate , Cloneziller and what about """"Batocera x86""".???? I found a program called Ventoy and it makes a """bootable usb"""with a twist... Download the zip file from the VENTOY Github page , unzip it to your home folder .. Open a terminal window from inside that new folder and run the bash file for your operating system,, widows , linux , mac!!! Then run the next bash file does some very cool sh*t in the back ground and prints out a web address you need to go too.... Don't close the terminal window , just open a web browser and go to the web page .... It's a server window of a usb image program... Click and select your usb drive .. Click to install.. As the instructions say wait a couple of minutes to let it complete and your done.... A bootable usb drive with it's own operating syatem on it like a Portable Apps usb drive.. If your x86 computer boots from a usb first , plug this drive in and it will boot to the """"VENTOY"""" menu ... Reboot your computer with your VENTOY drive unplugged . Once you have rebooted plug your VENTOY drive in and open up your file manager and you will see 2 VENTOY drives appear ... One is the boot drive and one is empty.. You want the empty one and this is where the magic happens... Do you want a rescue usb or a usb with multiple gaming operating systems on it.... All you do is copy your .iso files to the drive or in the case of Batocera x86 the .img file... Batocera work like a charm !!!
A large Samsung Bar usb would be ideal for this.... My current VENTOY drive has on Win 11 , Ubuntu Mate 22.04 , Cloneziller for backup's , Batocera x86 and another rescue operating system .. All work fine and the way there meant too...... Just boot the computer with the usb plugged in and it will boot to the VENTOY menu... DOWN or UP arrow to select your operating system and click enter and your chosen system will start up ..
One bootable usb instead of a hand full..
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If you can not get a 4, what's the chance of seeing a Pi5 anytime soon, not good i guess
I would say "extremely unlikely". No company or organisation wants to deal with a "failed launch" of a new product because they cannot satisfy anywhere near the demand for it - and I don't think that even if they have a Pi 5 design ready to go, they're going to struggle to get enough of them manufactured for a good product launch.
You can also imagine what would happen on social media:
"How come they can launch a new Pi 5 when I've not been able to buy a Pi 4 for at least a year now?"
Pi 1 vs pi zero vs pi zero 2?
Pi zero 2w is easily the best as it’s quad core. Very difficult to get hold of
I used this page for comparison
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It runs an os and web browser pretty well
Raspberry Pi Zero 2W. First time setup. Far better performance with Zram.
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Pi 1 and Pi Zero are essentially the same CPU and RAM, just smaller form factor and fewer ports on the Pi Zero.
Bitch please.
A colleague of mine still has the original Raspi 1B with 256MB running. It was only switched on once, back in 2012, and never turned off. He uses it as an internet radio in his workshop, controlled by iPhone. The uptime must be around 3700 days.
How could an operating system be THAT stable??? It would have to have rebooted sometime in those 3700 days...
Even the Apollo Guidance Computer had to be reset sometimes.
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