For the most part, the graphics look 10 times better than the NES version. But the background scrolling is so nauseating to look at, and its hard to ignore as it can cause eye strain. And while there are some musical tracks I like in this version, the soundtrack is nowhere near as memorable as the NES version.
If you played this version, you would also know that the controls are very stiff. The NES is much tighter on the controls. Overall, the NES version is the best.
Graphically looks great ( except the scrolling issue ) - NES easily wins in the audio department , but there are some nice colors & details on the PC Engine ...need to get this version too !!
Too bad they messed up the background parallax scrolling so badly. The PC engine doesn't do this natively, so they had to fake it and failed. Otherwise this version is a VERY clear upgrade graphically to the NES in every way.
I don't know how they faked high detailed parallax scrolling on the pce, but just imagine if they not only used a group of tile sets per hights wich not only has different animated tile sets but they also have to animated in sych with eachother in wich each tile set also has to begin and end at a different animated tile set per walk frame dependong were you are standing, but i cannot imagine if they had to do it way as that would be very complicated, if they only used animated tile sets with simple patterns then you don't have to care about in whether position they're placing such tile sets aslong they are in synch with eachother, what i consider more imagineble is ,if they just used a special chip with extra video ram, and hijack the ppu to stream it's parallax scrolling backgrounds trough it, while the ppu generates it's frontground , but again am not sure how it was done,
I see they kept the "we will rip your balls off and deep fry them" difficulty to the game. And the falcons and bats..... those cursed hellspawn that knock you into pits. I absolutely HATE those things.
Agreed - I think people just give the NES version more slack because it's the version they grew up with and they're listening through their nostalgia filter. The PC Engine seems to me to have much better sound hardware overall. The PCE R-Type soundtrack kicks some supreme arse! :D
One of the things that made this version harder than the NES version was that the jump n slash was less effective on here. On the NES I can wipe out a boss with one jump cause hit about 10 -12 times depending on the angle of the jump. On here it just hits once and leaves you open if you don't fully clear the jump.
I think, rather than saying "PC Engine is in the 16-bit class and therefore a 16-bit system" it's better to simply cite it as an example of how overblown the whole "bits" thing really was. The graphics and sound chips have a much bigger impact on the games than the CPU, usually. Whether you regard PC Engine as a 16-bit or 8-bit system, it was a big step up from the Famicom. Sadly, it couldn't do parallax very well, as shown in this video.
Uhh no, the PC-Engine belongs to the 16bit era. The fact that the CPU is 8bit (byte oriented) means nothing. The processing power of the 8bit CPU is in the same class as the Megadrive and faster than the SNES. The 16bit graphic chipsets (the specs for them) also put it exactly in line with the 16bit systems. Same with the sound. If it's your opinion that it's the mostly inferior of the three 16bit systems (SNES, MD, PCE), then that's fine. But it doesn't make it an 8bit class machine.
(cont). The PCE has full 4bit color sprites and tiles (same as MD and SNES). I could go on and on. Everything that I listed meets the requirement for 16bit era machines and some of the specs exceed them. The ONLY failing grace of the PCE is the single BG layer. Hell, you don't even need specs - just look at Gate of Thunder, Lords of Thunder, Sapphire, FF special, World Heroes 2, SF2, AoF, etc.
Why did the snes version not had parallax scrolling in it, they could,ve done it very easely, Trough i don't how parallax scrolling was done in cv rondo of blood via the pce cd ram addon ,all i know is, that addon has more ram,maybe it's partially hijacking the pce ppu to stream it's multi scrolling backgrounds to it while ppu generates it's frontgrounds, i cannot imagine they faked it trough complicated in synch animated tile updates, line scrolling is very easy and with enough sprites you can overlap stuff to also create the ellusion of multi scrolling backgrounds, either way it's interesting.
Whoever was the wise-guy who said, "Better to have separately scrolling backgrounds than not. Even if it does jump a bit" probably got fired. I don't know if you've done it yet Cubex, but Ninja Gaiden for SEGA Master System would be sweet to see.
The changes in the dialogue are fucking hilarious. "JOE Hayabusa" "The demon came to bring death to the Earth but a ninja came to stop him." "The devildoer" "I, Bloody Master, won't let you pass here!"
It wasn't - it was an 8-bit system! In Japan, the PC Engine was so popular that it was the single longest-running and supported 8-bit system ever made.
Not really, the Famicom lasted longer. PC Engine was discontinued in 1994 from 1987 (7 years) whereas Famicom was discontinued in 2003 from 1983 (20 years).
This system is "16-bit" in the same way the Atari Jaguar was "64-bit" ;P I think it looks so damn good because the developers worked with it for so long that they were able to hone its capabilities. As far as a I know (and I could be mistaken about this, but I don't think I am...), the PC Engine in Japan outlasted the Famicom and was still supported for a little longer even into the PSX/N64/Saturn era.
The graphics are certainly a visual improvement over the NES version (albeit, I'm not sure if it's as campy, and the stuttering scrolling background is a bit hard on the eyes). Irene definitely looks better, not as frumpy anyways, though Ryu looked pretty weird in most of his scenes. I can't say I liked the music as much as the original, not as energetic or melodic in comparison. Overall, though, it looks like a solid version of the game.
The music in the NES version is a million times better. The music in this Ninja Gaiden really bad. Graphically the PC Engine is the best lookin version of ninja gaiden.
there was a game for the Sega Master System too that was pretty good and had good graphics but gameplay was a departure from the nostalgic difficulty of the NES trilogy
Matthew Andrews You right i did played that Sega Master version too and it was a very nice game. They walk away a little bit from the difficulty of the NES games but still it was a nice game.
I don't think I agree with the part of the graphics being better. This version is more bland, like having a nes game on a snes or something. The nes version had more details, felt better to me. Music is clearly better in the nes version. But I also prefer the graphics of the nes version. This looks a bit cold/empty.
So is this straight up a port of the first game or are there different stages and things later on in the game? I can't get past the factory part where Ryu is arrested.
Whats really strange to me is why the name change for Jaquio? And as far as the parallax scrolling goes I don't think I've ever seen a card game on that system handle it all that well. Whats really surprised me was how well it was handled in Ninja Gaiden III NES but the SNES Version didn't even bother.
Jason Arrington I’m guessing maybe that this was how the original translation was but Nintendo of America made them change devil doer to another name based on their standards?
A Mega Drive port running in higher resolution, with slightly beefier sprites and proper parallax scrollings could have been awesome! But since it didn't happen, I'd rather play the NES original instead of this. The messy parallax scrollings in this PC Engine version are rather unbearable and there are many other issues (altered gameplay mechanics for the worse, some unwelcome aesthetic changes... and the music is kinda off).
The graphics on some stages don't make sense in this port on some stages. For instance, stage 5, where you're climbing the outside of the mountain temple to get to Bloody Malth has metal girders, chains, and barrels everywhere. Also, while some areas look very nice others look very poorly drawn, like the area where you fight Malth. Excuse me, Bloody Master, lol. Still prefer the NES version.
Well from what i have read from coders, the PCE cpu is actually faster overall than the SNES 16 bit cpu, so bitness isnt the be all end all when judging consoles capabilities. The extra colors, background layers and 3dish effects that the SNES has over the PCE are product of its video procesor, and the PCEs gpu is 16 bit so...its not just about how many bits your cpu has, you gotta look at the systems architecture as a whole.
(cont) compared to the Genesis 4 subpalettes (61 colors). PCE has resolutions from 256x240 to 344x240 to 512x240 max (again higher than the Genesis). The PCE can do up to 2048 unique tiles in vram and has a complete unified arch for tiles and sprites located anyway in vram. The PCE has a full working hsync interrupt system for the video to do scanline effects. The PCE can write to vram at ANY point during active display (SNES can't, MD is limited)...
I haven't played this myself since I'm terrible at this game, but just from watching this video, I'd have to say, overall, this looks and sounds much better than the SNES port, minus the reverse parallax scrolling.
Sheesh, a guy can't go to find an archeologist anymore without getting hunted down by random street thugs and wild dogs. On a side note, I don't understand what they were thinking with those choppy backgrounds. I understand it was a way to work around the 1 background layer limitation of the PC Engine, but if the end result is terrible, is it really an achievement? The effect is quite jarring, almost nauseating.
Sure these multi layer scrolling backgrounds causes dizzyness & eye strain, as if you are felling ill, but i was thinking that if they really faked it, then i must say this is an enormous accomplishment, the way how they did this, i just can't imagine if they faked it the hard way.
I appreciate the attempt at paralax scrolling, but either the recording cut parts out making it look janky or it just might be janky. the nes music was WAY better
i like the part where it says Hudson soft presents... A TECMO GAME! everyone is in a turmoil about what system plays it better and blah blah blah.. fan boys, just stop and appreciate what it is for what it is?
???? i think u replied the wrong comment.....i noticed they got uploads on youtube like round the clock,all game longplays, all different platforms,or emulators on pc....how? u know? what do they edit the videos with,how do they store them,and how do they upload one after another almost nonstop
So you think it's only the 'color' that makes it look 16bit? WTF. I code for the system (and the Genesis). It's most definitely 16bit. Hell, both video chips in the PCE are PURE 16bit (only WORD/16bit read/writes, only WORD/16bit addressing, full 16bit data bus to vram, etc). The PCE has 64k of vram. The PCE has 256 sprite pixels per scanline (one screen width full). PCE has sprite from 16x16 up to 32x64 max PER sprite (larger than the Genesis). PCE has 32 subpalettes (482 colors)...
Id just use that jumping ninja buzzsaw move for the end bosses, Pretty much destroyed all their projectiles and took off a heafty chunk of life if you could manage to keep yourself from jumping into them, which wasn't too difficult to manage. Course the fact that on the NES version that move was about the only way to clear some of the insanely hard jumps made it useful for the stage too.
@djfakt Yeah, each version has their benefits and problems. I for one like the option of 5 lives for the PC Engine. If they could fix the paralax scrolling and add the NES music to the PC-Engine version, then that would be the superior version.
Far and away the best version of Ninja Gaiden - imho, this exceeds the NES version in just about every category! Makes me wonder what happened during the N ES version's development, cuz the PC Engine is just as much an 8-bit system as the NES! There's no reason the NES version couldn't have at least approximated this game's look and control scheme (I think Ryu feels much more 'ninjalike' in this game). Anyone agree/disagree? :)
They have dogs chasing you on this version. the NES version, it looks as if some guy in a blue outfit is chasing after you on all fours, lol. and wtf is up with "Funky Dynamite" in the Dark Sword of Chaos NES version?
@@AAAAAA-hv5qp I would prefer it with stationary backgrounds over this catastrophe. Otherwise, it looks like an minor enhancement over the NES version.
I don't see a problem with the music either, really... okay, it's not as good as the NES version, but it's not bad either. Given the hardware they had to work with here I think they pulled the music off relatively well. I like the NES soundtrack, but I never thought it a masterpiece, personally. That distinction goes to Journey to Silius ;) I wonder if maybe you're just listening with your nostalgia-phones on? I do that a lot even with soundtracks I KNOW aren't very good, like with NES TMNT :P
dang, you make this game look like a kid's game o.O I'm playing this version currently, and I have to say this port is better than NES version. not only the graphics, but also gameplay. It feel very balance even the game is hard as shit unlike NES one (dat falcon take less damage in PCE port than NES one).
It always baffled me as to why in the hell Hudson made this a crappy Hu-Card game, rather than a Super CD game? The Famicom games would have been perfect as a SCD game with proper cinemas and speech. Hudson did that a few times for some unknown reason. The Neutopia and Momotarou Densetsu/Gaiden/Turbo games should have also been on CD. I never understood those descisions.
Last 3 bosses require a "trick" to beat them. Real bastards. First guy: wall climb and then jump over him. Second guy, stay on the ground when he fires, so his flames will fly past you. Third guy: position yourself to hit him and the bouncy balls to keep their numbers low. How are you supposed to know that?
I don't know how hardware works or what bits are? Do you know who I am? Assuming you've not looked at my channel videos; I'm known as Tomaitheous on the net. I know a hell of a lot about hardware of the 8bit and 16bit era, and I've coded for many of those consoles. Not to mention coding emulation. Figure it out :P And no, the Neo Geo is most definitely NOT 32bit. The cpu isn't even 32bit (original 68000 has a 16bit ALU). Only the CD32 has a 32bit cpu (68020), but yeah it belongs to 16bit era.
Some thoughts on this port: the names are translated more accurately, although Bloody Malth/Master is supposed to be Bloody Mars. The Nintendo version changed a number of names since stuff like Joe and Devildoer just don't have the same ring to them in English. The completely replaced soundtrack and odd background changes may have been due to Nintendo's very strict (and illegal) licensing contracts of the time. So they outsourced the developer and changed just enough to qualify it as a "different game". As for the awful parallaxing background... yeah they just completely screwed that up. Could be an emulation error, but it exists on every Turbo-Graphics emulator I've seen so its unlikely all of them got it wrong.
Rock hard game - wasn't it NG1+2+3 on one card? The Xbox reboot/remake was/is still the best last gen game on any system. Btw - PC Engine 16bit graphics - 8bit processor - 100% classic 80's game system (released October 1987). A fact that many PCE games 'Darius/New Zealand Story/Outrun' etc. are way better than on MegaDrive. Japanese game catalog on PCE was awesome. The popularity of SNES & Genesis in USA stiffled any future PCE/TG16 developments. Like and owned all aforementioned systems.
I see what they tried to achieve with the background but it really didn't word, they should have noticed that before releasing the game and used static background instead. Too distracting.
For the most part, the graphics look 10 times better than the NES version. But the background scrolling is so nauseating to look at, and its hard to ignore as it can cause eye strain. And while there are some musical tracks I like in this version, the soundtrack is nowhere near as memorable as the NES version.
If you played this version, you would also know that the controls are very stiff. The NES is much tighter on the controls. Overall, the NES version is the best.
yes the parallax scrolling is messed up very badly :(
@@transfiguration8865 not really. the NES version still had stiff controls
@Fat Chocobo it isn't. The game runs like this on the actual system.
10 times? Hardly. Looks more or less the same with slightly more colors.
The revamped artwork for the backgrounds is great. Fits much nicer than the NES version.
That's how it should have looked the Ninja Gaiden Trilogy on SNES, but they only did an inferior port, shame on you Tecmo.
yeah Tecmo was kinda stupid in the mid-90s... until they brought over Dead or Alive
At least you can keep your sub weapon between the three final bosses in this version.
Graphically looks great ( except the scrolling issue ) - NES easily wins in the audio department , but there are some nice colors & details on the PC Engine ...need to get this version too !!
Love this version. Music is definitely good, just different. Some stages are better. Gameplay is more balanced too, and the graphics are great.
Sorry man, the music sucks and the background scrolling is distracting and horrible and makes the game very hard to look at.
Wtf you like this 12 day shit sandwich?
Too bad they messed up the background parallax scrolling so badly. The PC engine doesn't do this natively, so they had to fake it and failed. Otherwise this version is a VERY clear upgrade graphically to the NES in every way.
NOT IN MUSIC!
I don't know how they faked high detailed parallax scrolling on the pce, but just imagine if they not only used a group of tile sets per hights wich not only has different animated tile sets but they also have to animated in sych with eachother in wich each tile set also has to begin and end at a different animated tile set per walk frame dependong were you are standing, but i cannot imagine if they had to do it way as that would be very complicated, if they only used animated tile sets with simple patterns then you don't have to care about in whether position they're placing such tile sets aslong they are in synch with eachother, what i consider more imagineble is ,if they just used a special chip with extra video ram, and hijack the ppu to stream it's parallax scrolling backgrounds trough it, while the ppu generates it's frontground , but again am not sure how it was done,
6:00 I find it hilarious that Ryu's weapon will follow him ANYWHERE he goes xD
That death really did give me a laugh.
I see they kept the "we will rip your balls off and deep fry them" difficulty to the game. And the falcons and bats..... those cursed hellspawn that knock you into pits. I absolutely HATE those things.
The audio in you’re gameplay sounds superb!
Agreed - I think people just give the NES version more slack because it's the version they grew up with and they're listening through their nostalgia filter.
The PC Engine seems to me to have much better sound hardware overall.
The PCE R-Type soundtrack kicks some supreme arse! :D
One of the things that made this version harder than the NES version was that the jump n slash was less effective on here. On the NES I can wipe out a boss with one jump cause hit about 10 -12 times depending on the angle of the jump. On here it just hits once and leaves you open if you don't fully clear the jump.
Superb graphics, but the soundtrack is a disappointment. The music on NES was fantastic. The PC engine missed a big opportunity here.
It sounds like an entirely different score, though.
I think, rather than saying "PC Engine is in the 16-bit class and therefore a 16-bit system" it's better to simply cite it as an example of how overblown the whole "bits" thing really was. The graphics and sound chips have a much bigger impact on the games than the CPU, usually.
Whether you regard PC Engine as a 16-bit or 8-bit system, it was a big step up from the Famicom.
Sadly, it couldn't do parallax very well, as shown in this video.
Uhh no, the PC-Engine belongs to the 16bit era. The fact that the CPU is 8bit (byte oriented) means nothing. The processing power of the 8bit CPU is in the same class as the Megadrive and faster than the SNES. The 16bit graphic chipsets (the specs for them) also put it exactly in line with the 16bit systems. Same with the sound. If it's your opinion that it's the mostly inferior of the three 16bit systems (SNES, MD, PCE), then that's fine. But it doesn't make it an 8bit class machine.
I don't know, but I prefer ninja gaiden NES version.
The game play is great but the music is not up to the standard of original ninja gaiden
(cont). The PCE has full 4bit color sprites and tiles (same as MD and SNES). I could go on and on. Everything that I listed meets the requirement for 16bit era machines and some of the specs exceed them. The ONLY failing grace of the PCE is the single BG layer. Hell, you don't even need specs - just look at Gate of Thunder, Lords of Thunder, Sapphire, FF special, World Heroes 2, SF2, AoF, etc.
That faux parallax scrolling hurts my friggin' eyes.
The background scrolling is awful. Why isn't level 3-2 a snow stage like the original?
least its not as bad as Bugs Bunny's Birthday Blowout for the NES, and take a wild guess on how I know that lol
The original was a beat em up
Why did the snes version not had parallax scrolling in it, they could,ve done it very easely,
Trough i don't how parallax scrolling was done in cv rondo of blood via the pce cd ram addon ,all i know is, that addon has more ram,maybe it's partially hijacking the pce ppu to stream it's multi scrolling backgrounds to it while ppu generates it's frontgrounds, i cannot imagine they faked it trough complicated in synch animated tile updates, line scrolling is very easy and with enough sprites you can overlap stuff to also create the ellusion of multi scrolling backgrounds, either way it's interesting.
Whoever was the wise-guy who said, "Better to have separately scrolling backgrounds than not. Even if it does jump a bit" probably got fired. I don't know if you've done it yet Cubex, but Ninja Gaiden for SEGA Master System would be sweet to see.
I love the PCE. Such truly great designed hardware. With the CD add on I truly like its visual look over snes or genesis.
All I want to know is, is the control more responsive than the damn NES version?
Way worse.
The changes in the dialogue are fucking hilarious.
"JOE Hayabusa"
"The demon came to bring death to the Earth but a ninja came to stop him."
"The devildoer"
"I, Bloody Master, won't let you pass here!"
It wasn't - it was an 8-bit system! In Japan, the PC Engine was so popular that it was the single longest-running and supported 8-bit system ever made.
Not really, the Famicom lasted longer. PC Engine was discontinued in 1994 from 1987 (7 years) whereas Famicom was discontinued in 2003 from 1983 (20 years).
This system is "16-bit" in the same way the Atari Jaguar was "64-bit" ;P
I think it looks so damn good because the developers worked with it for so long that they were able to hone its capabilities. As far as a I know (and I could be mistaken about this, but I don't think I am...), the PC Engine in Japan outlasted the Famicom and was still supported for a little longer even into the PSX/N64/Saturn era.
The graphics are certainly a visual improvement over the NES version (albeit, I'm not sure if it's as campy, and the stuttering scrolling background is a bit hard on the eyes). Irene definitely looks better, not as frumpy anyways, though Ryu looked pretty weird in most of his scenes. I can't say I liked the music as much as the original, not as energetic or melodic in comparison. Overall, though, it looks like a solid version of the game.
I always laughed how they got the background scrolling so great in the intro....and then...Enter stage 2 mountains....hahaha.
The music in the NES version is a million times better. The music in this Ninja Gaiden really bad. Graphically the PC Engine is the best lookin version of ninja gaiden.
there was a game for the Sega Master System too that was pretty good and had good graphics but gameplay was a departure from the nostalgic difficulty of the NES trilogy
Matthew Andrews You right i did played that Sega Master version too and it was a very nice game. They walk away a little bit from the difficulty of the NES games but still it was a nice game.
I don't think I agree with the part of the graphics being better. This version is more bland, like having a nes game on a snes or something. The nes version had more details, felt better to me. Music is clearly better in the nes version. But I also prefer the graphics of the nes version. This looks a bit cold/empty.
Obviously this version looks much better than the NES version. Other than the parallax fail there is no argument to be made here.
Whoever's responsible for the borked parallax scrolling and the yellow text should've been fired.
So is this straight up a port of the first game or are there different stages and things later on in the game? I can't get past the factory part where Ryu is arrested.
6:50 You get to keep your weapon after using the fire invincibility? What the shit? Also, changing Jaquio's name to Devildoer?
Whats really strange to me is why the name change for Jaquio? And as far as the parallax scrolling goes I don't think I've ever seen a card game on that system handle it all that well. Whats really surprised me was how well it was handled in Ninja Gaiden III NES but the SNES Version didn't even bother.
Jason Arrington I’m guessing maybe that this was how the original translation was but Nintendo of America made them change devil doer to another name based on their standards?
How were you able to get it to display English?
There is a code you enter on the main screen, it let's you change the text from Japanese to Chinese or English!
Was this ran on a Emulator? the background scrolling is smoother on the TG16 and the PC Engine.
A Mega Drive port running in higher resolution, with slightly beefier sprites and proper parallax scrollings could have been awesome! But since it didn't happen, I'd rather play the NES original instead of this. The messy parallax scrollings in this PC Engine version are rather unbearable and there are many other issues (altered gameplay mechanics for the worse, some unwelcome aesthetic changes... and the music is kinda off).
Man I’m getting a tg16. Again. Had 3 in the 90s
The graphics and the music looks like for Genesis and GBA.
This is the first time I saw someone play Ninja Gaiden without dying!
The graphics on some stages don't make sense in this port on some stages. For instance, stage 5, where you're climbing the outside of the mountain temple to get to Bloody Malth has metal girders, chains, and barrels everywhere. Also, while some areas look very nice others look very poorly drawn, like the area where you fight Malth. Excuse me, Bloody Master, lol. Still prefer the NES version.
It looks like different people were in charge of making the backgrounds but they didn't talk to each other during the process lol
Well from what i have read from coders, the PCE cpu is actually faster overall than the SNES 16 bit cpu, so bitness isnt the be all end all when judging consoles capabilities. The extra colors, background layers and 3dish effects that the SNES has over the PCE are product of its video procesor, and the PCEs gpu is 16 bit so...its not just about how many bits your cpu has, you gotta look at the systems architecture as a whole.
(cont) compared to the Genesis 4 subpalettes (61 colors). PCE has resolutions from 256x240 to 344x240 to 512x240 max (again higher than the Genesis). The PCE can do up to 2048 unique tiles in vram and has a complete unified arch for tiles and sprites located anyway in vram. The PCE has a full working hsync interrupt system for the video to do scanline effects. The PCE can write to vram at ANY point during active display (SNES can't, MD is limited)...
People like you who rattle on about meaningless technicals are ignorant from the start l.
I really like the tune at 25:01, though...
This looks great!
@BlazingSoul333 Isn't the Master system a different game with new levels though? Its not really a port.
_Breezed through the 3rd room in 6-2...._
*WAAAHHHH!!!!!*
I haven't played this myself since I'm terrible at this game, but just from watching this video, I'd have to say, overall, this looks and sounds much better than the SNES port, minus the reverse parallax scrolling.
Why did Walter Smith lose his doctorate between the NES version and this one?
Sheesh, a guy can't go to find an archeologist anymore without getting hunted down by random street thugs and wild dogs.
On a side note, I don't understand what they were thinking with those choppy backgrounds. I understand it was a way to work around the 1 background layer limitation of the PC Engine, but if the end result is terrible, is it really an achievement? The effect is quite jarring, almost nauseating.
Sure these multi layer scrolling backgrounds causes dizzyness & eye strain, as if you are felling ill, but i was thinking that if they really faked it, then i must say
this is an enormous
accomplishment, the way how they did this, i just can't imagine if they faked it the hard way.
Is the trilogy available in this graphics ?
I appreciate the attempt at paralax scrolling, but either the recording cut parts out making it look janky or it just might be janky. the nes music was WAY better
i like the part where it says Hudson soft presents... A TECMO GAME! everyone is in a turmoil about what system plays it better and blah blah blah.. fan boys, just stop and appreciate what it is for what it is?
do u guys have like a super computer/server or what? and where can i get me one? how do u upload,edit,record,and store all of these longplays????
???? i think u replied the wrong comment.....i noticed they got uploads on youtube like round the clock,all game longplays, all different platforms,or emulators on pc....how? u know? what do they edit the videos with,how do they store them,and how do they upload one after another almost nonstop
So you think it's only the 'color' that makes it look 16bit? WTF. I code for the system (and the Genesis). It's most definitely 16bit. Hell, both video chips in the PCE are PURE 16bit (only WORD/16bit read/writes, only WORD/16bit addressing, full 16bit data bus to vram, etc). The PCE has 64k of vram. The PCE has 256 sprite pixels per scanline (one screen width full). PCE has sprite from 16x16 up to 32x64 max PER sprite (larger than the Genesis). PCE has 32 subpalettes (482 colors)...
Id just use that jumping ninja buzzsaw move for the end bosses, Pretty much destroyed all their projectiles and took off a heafty chunk of life if you could manage to keep yourself from jumping into them, which wasn't too difficult to manage. Course the fact that on the NES version that move was about the only way to clear some of the insanely hard jumps made it useful for the stage too.
@djfakt Yeah, each version has their benefits and problems. I for one like the option of 5 lives for the PC Engine. If they could fix the paralax scrolling and add the NES music to the PC-Engine version, then that would be the superior version.
why does it look like the bosses are easy to defeat than the nes version
I don't know if it's an emulation issue, but the background scrolling is clunky
Best graphics than NES , but not in music, not in the fast paced action, and look like cant handle the background parallax lol
Far and away the best version of Ninja Gaiden - imho, this exceeds the NES version in just about every category! Makes me wonder what happened during the N ES version's development, cuz the PC Engine is just as much an 8-bit system as the NES! There's no reason the NES version couldn't have at least approximated this game's look and control scheme (I think Ryu feels much more 'ninjalike' in this game).
Anyone agree/disagree? :)
They have dogs chasing you on this version. the NES version, it looks as if some guy in a blue outfit is chasing after you on all fours, lol. and wtf is up with "Funky Dynamite" in the Dark Sword of Chaos NES version?
@xaer0knight Use the 5 lives code in this. Makes the game more bearable.
Good graphic, but the version NES is More Hard and Fun.
Good graphics? Look at this parallax scrolling!!!
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I would prefer it with stationary backgrounds over this catastrophe. Otherwise, it looks like an minor enhancement over the NES version.
I don't see a problem with the music either, really... okay, it's not as good as the NES version, but it's not bad either. Given the hardware they had to work with here I think they pulled the music off relatively well.
I like the NES soundtrack, but I never thought it a masterpiece, personally. That distinction goes to Journey to Silius ;)
I wonder if maybe you're just listening with your nostalgia-phones on? I do that a lot even with soundtracks I KNOW aren't very good, like with NES TMNT :P
dang, you make this game look like a kid's game o.O
I'm playing this version currently, and I have to say this port is better than NES version. not only the graphics, but also gameplay. It feel very balance even the game is hard as shit unlike NES one (dat falcon take less damage in PCE port than NES one).
I agree. I hardly play my NES version since getting the PC Engine version. It even looks better than the Trilogy for SNES in my opinion.
Looks like a kids game funny cuz the runner is a convicted child molester.
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Who looked at that bad scrolling and said "that lookds good, print it."?
Joe? I thought Ryu's father was Ken.
That music is unbearable.
Woohoooo I just beat it!! Hell yea !! :D
The artwork is very good in this version, but the music is better in the NES version.
funny how this looks better than the SNES trilogy lol
...except for the background scrolling
I don't suppose there is an option to turn the scrolling background OFF? I keep getting a headache watching this, so it would be nice, if unlikely.
When your Mom says you have Ninja Gaiden at home…
like the graphics, they should have did part 2 and 3 as well
It was like Tecmo made the North American version hard as hell on purpose.
@LordNifty
With a hack, most likely it can be turned off.
Is this on cd or cartride???
Hu card
why doesn't he grab the throwing stars?
A little extra effort for more detail than the nes version.
It's called "Ninja Dragon Sword Legend"
What have they done? The graphics, backgrounds, dialogue. Would it have killed them to keep it the same? Or better yet, improved on top?
It always baffled me as to why in the hell Hudson made this a crappy Hu-Card game, rather than a Super CD game? The Famicom games would have been perfect as a SCD game with proper cinemas and speech. Hudson did that a few times for some unknown reason. The Neutopia and Momotarou Densetsu/Gaiden/Turbo games should have also been on CD. I never understood those descisions.
A Shaw cheaper to produce
If you can't do parallax scrolling, then don't do it at all. Everything would've looked better without the attempt.
a NES remix 2 a good classic I like that
Turbografx 16 Version Of NINJA GAIDEN.
Turbografx is what its called in the US?
Last 3 bosses require a "trick" to beat them. Real bastards. First guy: wall climb and then jump over him. Second guy, stay on the ground when he fires, so his flames will fly past you. Third guy: position yourself to hit him and the bouncy balls to keep their numbers low. How are you supposed to know that?
dint know that the pc engine had this game
I don't know how hardware works or what bits are? Do you know who I am? Assuming you've not looked at my channel videos; I'm known as Tomaitheous on the net. I know a hell of a lot about hardware of the 8bit and 16bit era, and I've coded for many of those consoles. Not to mention coding emulation. Figure it out :P
And no, the Neo Geo is most definitely NOT 32bit. The cpu isn't even 32bit (original 68000 has a 16bit ALU). Only the CD32 has a 32bit cpu (68020), but yeah it belongs to 16bit era.
Dear God... That background scrolling.
It's 16bit.
Some thoughts on this port: the names are translated more accurately, although Bloody Malth/Master is supposed to be Bloody Mars. The Nintendo version changed a number of names since stuff like Joe and Devildoer just don't have the same ring to them in English.
The completely replaced soundtrack and odd background changes may have been due to Nintendo's very strict (and illegal) licensing contracts of the time. So they outsourced the developer and changed just enough to qualify it as a "different game".
As for the awful parallaxing background... yeah they just completely screwed that up. Could be an emulation error, but it exists on every Turbo-Graphics emulator I've seen so its unlikely all of them got it wrong.
That revenge part...Ryu looks very accurate to his PS versions
thnx,sorry if u get the same questions alot
shame those exploits dont work for the insane ninja spin attack
lindo juego, es super cd rom hubiese estado muy bueno
Rock hard game - wasn't it NG1+2+3 on one card?
The Xbox reboot/remake was/is still the best last gen game on any system.
Btw - PC Engine 16bit graphics - 8bit processor - 100% classic 80's game system (released October 1987). A fact that many PCE games 'Darius/New Zealand Story/Outrun' etc. are way better than on MegaDrive. Japanese game catalog on PCE was awesome.
The popularity of SNES & Genesis in USA stiffled any future PCE/TG16 developments.
Like and owned all aforementioned systems.
Pretty amazing looking for 8-bit, huh? :)
It's 16 buy the way
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I see what they tried to achieve with the background but it really didn't word, they should have noticed that before releasing the game and used static background instead. Too distracting.