SMART Electric Drive | Fully Charged
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- This is the 260th episode of Fully Charged and just possibly, the very first proper, informative and clear car review. This is very much down to the talent and experience of Jonny Smith, his first time on the series (but definitely not the last)
After watching this, I know I have to up my game, I'm so thrilled Jonny could do this show with us and I'm really intrigued to hear your reaction.
Thank you Smart for flying Jonny and Mark out to Toulouse and organising the cars.
And once again, we could not have done this show without the generous support of all our Patreons. Thank you, and
Patreon: / fullychargedshow
Music by Christopher Ashmore
Johhny Smith? From Fifth Gear? Working for Fully Charged now? Awesome!
moar pls
Blayk Giddens truly awesome! I laughed out loud at the split tailgate piece
He's fantastic! Robert is also fantastic though!
A TV show in the UK.
He's a big electric vehicle fan. Has built his own car. He certainly has the credentials to be hosting this show. flux-capacitor.co.uk/
This was nicely done. I welcome this host to be on again, he did a great job!
Yup totally agree
You mean he's not a "regular"???!!!
😭😭😭
completely agree :thumbsup:
Yes great, well done...
Nice to see a new host, starting to grow on FC gives Robert a break sometimes and less pressure on him. Like how Jonny explains the vehicle. Hope we get to see him more in future on FC.
Robert might be busy with his thing with Red Dwarf, so this step was quite logical.
Plus there are tonnes of cars coming out in the next couple of years. Robert can't review them all.
David?? DAVID??? What are the chances!!! Not seen you since Uni!
In fact I think Johnny should focus mostly on cars and leave the rest to Robert. Because unlike Robert, he actually knows a LOT more about cars, so he can actually do a useful review instead of just doodling around. And he's no less funny! Really enjoyed this one.
Wow, another Tassie EV fan here! Do I know you? :)
Really enjoyed Jonny's review! Great style. Would enjoy more episodes.
If Jonny does the car reviews, and llwelmnmnlwnmxmn... ;) does the energy tech, like batteries and eco cities, I think you have a killer show!! Please do that. Thanks for another great video. Cheers!
agree - but bring Robert in just to demo the car door mechanism ;-)
They could always do a 2-part review - technical things by Jonny, casual things by Robert. That way the review would be more versatile.
Nice one Jonny!! Wow Fully Charged has two awesome hosts.
BMSWEB And he also has a thing for glory holes 🤔
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I couldn't agree more, BMSWEB. I am now looking into purchasing an electric vehicle, but I need to know more about what UK Government grants are available to me. That is not my only driving factor, if you'll excuse the pun.
This was a very refreshing change. Hopefully more to come from Jonny
Oh wow. A proper car review with actual car information that is useful! He's quite funny too.
I love all the useful information like "plastic is gash" lol
Could you please include metric units? Thanks.
Janosch Pelzer To convert miles into Km divide by 5 and multiply by 8. So 40 mph equals 64 kmh. It's really not difficult.
What it is It's really completely unnecessary. As well as imperial units...At least for the rest of the world ;)
They do this on other shows and it doens't work, no one would naturally say both so it breaks the flow of whoever's talking. Google is your friend, or basic mental maths.
+Janosch Pelzer Agreed
It's easy enough just to Google up a converter, there are apps and websites for this. Or you could just watch a show that comes from a metric-using country...
Wow, those 17 minutes just flew by! Great review that flows beautifully! Well done
Such a relaxed and straightforward review. I love Robert but sometimes it's good to get alternate perspectives as well. Johnny has a good insight into the production side of automotive journalism and so is a great compliment to Robert's shall we say more intuitive presentation style. Thumbs up to the whole crew at Fully Charged!
A nice and welcome surprise to see Jonny on the TV again :)
Harrison Ganner this is actually not TV. And this is refreshing, for example they don't have to fit a time slot as well as they don't have to plan around advertising breaks with cliff hangers. :)
Ruben Kelevra By on the TV I mean literally on the TV screen, as I was watching this on TH-cam on my Xbox, rather than on my phone for example :)
This is a perfect vehicle for the car sharing programs. It could park anywhere and forget about insurance, taxes, loan payments, gas refills, cleaning, etc..
Great option for the people who need a second car too.
There's no need apologise for not being Robert. hehe... We want more car stuff from Smith, and more tech stuff from Llewellyn. Happy days!
These seem like brilliant cars. I think Mercedes as all but given up on the whole Smart brand in the US. Thanks for the great review Jonny!
Exactly. The US consumer wants huge, flashy trash cars. (i.e. SUVs and "cross overs") How often do you drive out across a field? Then why do you need a "car" with 3ft ground clearance? Or 28ton cargo capacity?
Erm... isn't this precisely the generation of Smart cars that will be sold in the US from now on? Like, they literally announced that Smart would only sell electric cars in the States going forward. And these three (ForTwo, Convertible, ForFour) are the ones that start it off.
In Washington D.C. we have car2go with the old and new Smart, and they are lovely! It's awesome to sneak around big SUV/CUV in the city and make the city more fun to drive along.
If insurance in the U.S.A. wasn't a rip off I would buy a Smart 2 seat ED tomorrow!
3rd World Garage: The smart's draw isn't just about parking space. It's a perfect 2nd car for a typical US family, actually, especially for the folks in/near cities. As for economy, the EV's in another league at 122 MPG equivalent. I'm on my 3rd year with my smart electric as my only car and it's perfect. The electric gives me the cheapest driving I've ever done. In spite of the EPA range rating of 68 miles, I routinely run 85 mile drives. When I want to leave town, I get a rental.
The only downside to the smart electric is that they're so damn hard to get - there aren't enough in the 'States to meet demand. I lucked into mine in early 2015 only because a family ordered one and then their job moved them out of state before the car arrived. It was taking 6-8 months from order to delivery, and dealers couldn't order cars to put in a showroom.
Though I'd like a bit more range (maybe another 20 miles, actually) and a charger larger than the 3300W unit installed, I love the car. I guess I"m one of the 'exceptions.' ;)
Mercedes have made the smart only ED (or ev) in N-AM from now on. They have not given up on it, but i think it will be only promoted as a city car. Seems oke from my point.
Brilliant - now get Edd China (who's just dismissed himself from Wheeler Dealers) on board. Though obv he'll need to only work on cars with big interiors
Chris Bown I second that motion. Mr. China could work with proper presenters instead of that 🔔 end Mike.
Oh hell yes do a Fully Charged ICE conversion of a clapped out old MGB or something. I'd buy that for a dollar!
MGBs were clapped out from the factory. Hated my POS.
Haha! Exactly! But they still look damn good. MGB GT with a boot full of batteries? I'd like my boat with an extra slice of boat please.
Chris Bown A MX5 converted to electric by Ed China. one can dream...
200 miles range and this would sell out.
or as is and £4000 cheaper
DigitalYojimbo then it would cost 10K more
@@balkanhajduk I think more like 3k more. Actually the main problem with the Smart ForTwo is not cost, but rather space for the batteries. They probably jammed in as many cells as they could as it is.
john bumptybump I think you probably right
I have one. You don't want to ride 100 miles in one. It's just a town car
great, Jonny. Love to see more! Thanks!
Always liked Jonny! Great review, lovely editing. Never thought I would be into smarts but quite tempting!
Just hope u remembered to remove that coffee before closing the boot... Lol
I thought just that.
Johnny is a great add to the FC team, hope we see more of him, maybe he can keep Robert from becoming a cranky old guy ;-)
I really enjoyed that review, Johnny was a great choice. I hope we get to see him again
Hmnn....had to explain to the wife what a "glory hole" is. After I stopped laughing harder than I should have
In case you find yourself on the spot again: a bukake is a Japanese biscuit.
lol
Mark Lawrence What's this little hole for? Hold up! What's poking out of it?! Holy crap! That's usually how it goes. I used to think it was for ventilation.
Why are you the only one who mentioned this? I don't think Jonny knows what a "glory hole" is.
Hey Renault, Mercedes, VW, Tesla, everybody! Listen to me! Swap the batteries in 1min everywhere, range anxiety will be gone! Let those batteries be swapped! Don't sell the battery, rent/lease them as part of the swap service! Better Place did it, it needs to be the standard.
to 2017 make a car that can't be DC fast charged is really crappy!! or in Swedish "det är helt jävla åt helvete!"
or in german: total beschissen
Or in Norwegian: "Vi liker brunost"
Kallenator1988 you Norwegians and your humour :p. "we like brown cheese"...
Or in Welsh: Byddai'n well gen i fwyta caws drewllyd
Or in Chilean: "una huea' con patas"
Great review, great to see Jonny Smith back again in front of the camera. Good call Robert, what a team you two will make :)
We need more of this chap.
I first thought 100 miles or given 75 in Winter is pretty poor.
Then sat back and tried to remember how many Times in the last 10 Years we own a 2nd Gen ICE Smart it had to run more than that without being possibly recharged.
I honestly couldn´t.
It´s used to commute to Work and hopping around the Village and i guess that is the main target of this Concept.
Just thinking about how many Times i found a parking Space too small for all the others makes me Smile.
always liked johnny. hope he will appear more often.
Wow this is a really really good review! Will the 4-4 have room for larger battery capacity?
Tyrell Kehler no
Bummer. Thanks for the info.
nice he did a good job as a host really liked him i think he fits very well into fully charged
Love this one, beautifully shot and edited
Great Review ! Enjoyed .
Thanks
Joe
Jonny was great. I look forward to seeing more of him on Fully Charged.
Really enjoyed Jonnys review, from 😊 x fe in Sydney Oz
I think Robert and Jonny make a good tag team!
Thanks guys
What a great review! This channel just gets better and better.
I love Johnny! So glad so see him on Fully Charged as a host.
Welcome Jonny!
Smart. 4th generation and still behind the curve.
Fantastic, nothing more to say. Carry on good people
Now please bring on Vicki Butler-Henderson!
No, please don't! Vicki's a terrific gal, but she's also a pro racing driver; bringing her to Fully Charged would turn it into a lad's mag Clarkson era Top Gear, piss-about. Screaming starts, track days, max power, drift round corners, late braking, 0 - 60 times, constant emphasis on bhp, handling, performance, street cred, what's 'cool' ... No. Please, no. Keep Fully Charged as Kryten's idea of a sensible electric future algorithm.
Of course cars are part of that future, and they can be fun, too, but at the moment Fully Charged is like the old original BBC Top Gear - Raymond Spitfire Pilot, William Woollard, the nice chap with a beard, some occasional tips on adjusting ignition timing, no schoolboy-level mucking about, just useful, practical stuff. Too much emphasis on car performance would kill this brilliant TH-cam Channel stone dead. (IMHO) ;-)
No just dont......
Great host, Jonny Smith was great on Fifth Gear. Hope to see you in more videos in this great channel.
great review, great personality, made me smile. Owned a smart in the past and was great even for the occasional motorway trip. I continue to be confounded by peoples range issues. This is perfect for the city where 100 miles is more than enough for a day or 3 . and charging whilst at work or in the evening is not an issue. This shows good thinking from Smart/Mercedes as ever to recognise reality rather than fantasy in terms of real world use.
Why oh why didn't they put CCS or Chademo on board? Come on, Mercedes.... The I-miev had that back in 2009, and the two cars are very very much alike in their target demographic. But the fact that in 8 years of EV progress, Smart/Mercedes have made a car that is *slower* to charge, and has virtually the same battery size is a weak showing. They've had a lot of chances to improve it over the years, and seem to have dropped the ball.
Might have been a cost decision I guess. They might argue that the car is just supposed to drive you round town anyways.
Wobbegong, City appartment dwellers are less likely to have an opportunity to charge at night compared to suburban one family house inhabitants with a garage. Lack of quick charging would be an impediment for sales.
LMLMD
No fast charge means it has a slower maximum charge speed. But it has a much faster standard charge, since the iMiEV was limited to around 3.5kW.
OriginalPiMan Rapid and regular charging arent related though, and the 7kw on boars the Smart is these days just bog standard for home charging. People expect that and a decent rapid DC facility as well. I am disappointed to say the least. Smart have shot themselves in the foot with the charging. Get the basics right before you try and be clever with radar guided regen and all that jazz.
I think Mercedes didn't put fast charging on purpose to sell internal combustion cars for those who need to drive long distance travels.
Now official UK pricing is released. doesn't sound too bad. £16,500 on the road price with all admin and delivery charges. that's not bad really.
Love the review
I know it's off topic, but where did you get that Top, or rather who makes it? Cheers, this is a Top notch show, proving that you don't need a Clarkson sized budget to make a quality programme!
Well done Mr Smith. A very good review. ;~)
I love my smart! Wouldn't drive anything else. Just looking for an electric one now...
Dynamic regen. How clever!!
All EV's should adopt that idea. Outdoes Tesla eh?
Good one Johnny. I do like the Tardis feel. Tried a previous gen Smart and it was such a pleasant surprise.
I must say this bloke is marvelous, better than old rusty robert , Im only joking, I love you too rusty robert ;) , but could you have this young tasty bloke more often on this show please :)?
How do you know he's tasty?
Drove the diesel version and he's absolutely right about the spaciousness. The first time I sat in one, the amount of space surprised me. All round, great car.
Great choice as a second host. I may seriously consider the Patreon when I have spare cash
I had a 2002 smart for two and sold it in less than a year. Mainly because the delay in the gear box was a real problem in roundabouts. It was a safety issue - my car wouldn't move while others were coming straight at me.
Other issues were it was noisy, the heating barely worked and the quality of the interiors left much to be desired.
I see none of those problems with this car!
It is definitely a contender for my new car.
Technically wasn't the Tesla Roadster a convertible? You could take off the roof.
Martin Soendergaard-Jensen It was limited run, minimal production. I think he's implying that it's the first full production car.
By that metric, everything Tesla has ever made is "limited run, minimal production".
What are you on about? Model S is mass produced...
The Tesla Roadster wasn't manufactured by Tesla, its a Lotus in disguise. Rebadged in San Jose, and e-drivetrain installed, but its certainly not "mass produced".
Also, the smart is just incredibly spacious!! ;-)
Women will always tell you what to do and where to go.
Nice move, missed his quirkiness :)
Jonny Smith! Awesome review!
I've had my ED four-2 for a year now and I love it!
Mileage claims are slightly
Wrong.
Plus you can't use the heater or aircon unless you want to take 20miles off the range. I've had winter pack which is heated seats plus steering wheel for that reason.
In the summer of 2018 I only had 100miles once.
Average mileage in summer is about 85-95 but as soon as you hit winter it will be 65-75 if I'm lucky.
Around town it's awesome. But motorway driving sucks that juice out.
Last point is the car should be in Eco mode standard with the button being sports mode because it's fast very fast in startard mode.
cant wait for battery technology to get a lot better, then you could put a MUCH more powerful electric motor in this thing for roughly the same weight and have essentially a hot hatch of a smart car, like 0-60 in 5 seconds hot
Ryukachoo spark EV is pretty hot...400lbft of torque
As soon as I saw Robert missing, I started to think "Oh my, this is going down hill fast". But after watching this new host, he really does fit this show/format really well! My review: 4/5 stars.
Great to see Johnny Smith on the show! He's a welcome addition!
fullychargedshow How can you say this is the first mass-produced electric convertible? Wasn't Tesla roadster mass-produced?
Nope
I think I speak for us all when I say we need more Jonny! Great to see him again.
Thanks Jonny for playing on fully charged! It would be awesome if you could be a regular! Of course Robert is great but it's nice to have the occasional change of pace :)
good job on this one, great episode as always!
Really? E.D? They didn't think this out.
Johnny Smith!
Odd question when doing reviews on city cars why do you do 0-60 when we want to know 0-20 0-30 when at traffic lights or getting out on junctions
In a sneeze lol
A very well done review! Thanks, Jonny!
Hahaha "Here is cargo space, it's where the stuff goes" 😂😂
Just love Johnny's comments 👍🏼
Johnny is a real car reviewer pro. So easy to watch. Great guy. Very thorough.
When's this bloody Smart ED (Electric Drive not Erectile Dysfunction) coming to the States ?! This thing looks like it could find it's niche' with younger, urban adapters who seek an inexpensive, shorter range EV for primarily city commuting. Congrats Johnny Smith on your Inaugural Review; you're a funny bloke who provides an understated nuanced review of new EV's !
Shawn Vanden More power and a lowered suspension and it'd be awesome for hooning. Who says younger, urban, environmentally conscious drivers can't burn rubber?
More of Johhny, please!
great camera work as always.
Thanks Jonny Smith ;0) Really enjoyed the review :0)
"Power windows? Nah. Seat back iPad mount? Brilliant!" - BMW/Smart designers.
The front windows are powered.
What is the average real world range of the Fortwo, if driven economically?
Great review by-the-way, more reviews should be like this.
Sad to see you couldn't find the time to hop out of your pyjamas...
nice video, though :-) thank you very much
Monkeyheadtpc That's what some people wear...
Sure, don't get me wrong, I'm not judging! I myself wear pyjamas every night...
How very dare you. That's a Barbour jumper that is!
I have no idea what a Barbour jumper is and I'm too lazy to Google it. It looked like a pajama top to me too.
I absolutely love Robert but Jonny was great. This show keeps getting better, Patreon was a very good idea.
Can we lose the "miles" thing... I would prefer everything in Km or atleast subtitled in km!
And its fine that he is 6foot something but i have no clue how big that is!
What the hell is pound feed of tork??? And miles per hour?
Sorry but this really annoys me since only 300mln ppl of the 6bln use this weird measurements.
in England we use miles and feet.
And gruel for breakfast.
It's England we are talking about. They will never let go off the old.
You really made me laugh, so thank you. It's Pound-Feet of Torque, not that it matters in the Metric System world.
Pound-feed is the biggest clusterfuck ever.
Unlike many people I prefer the new chunky "smashed nose" look to the old "wedge" look. Reminds me of a real-life 1980s Micro Machine car. With a wider stance it's much more stable than the earlier generations. I like it a lot.
Uuhh, yet another low range ev, face palm 🤦♂️ that costs as much your average consumer car that can do 400-500 miles per range & has low carbon emissions. Slow charging as well. It's a glorified covered electric wheelchair. I love Evs but why do car company's insist on delivering piss poor ranged over priced Evs so they can sell more dirty fossil fuel cars ....
How often do you drive more than 100 miles in one day?
Okay, that wasn't helpful.
I just can't understand the obsession with comparing huge ranges to petrol vehicles.
You plug it in overnight (when you're asleep), so you're never making a trip to a petrol station. Surely the range only comes into play if you do more than 100 miles in one day?
Harry C. The problem is that the 100 miles is not true 100 miles. Once you add traffic and air condition, have a full trunk, the range drops by 40%. Come winter time, the range drops another 20%. 40 actual miles round trip? That’s just not enough
An EV doesn't lose even close to that range. Traffic doesn't hurt the range at all (not using any energy while idling and AC uses VERY little compared to HEAT). Yes, in Winter you'll see a 20% drop, but only if you run the heater full blast in a freezing climate. If you're in medium climate, heated seats and an occasional heat blast will barely effect your range.
Another "compliance car" with poor range, built on an ICE platform and slow charging. OK, it is cool, but I would expect more from a German tech giant: Why do they have to rely on Renault to build it?
"It has 100 miles of range"
Aaaand close video.
Also it doesn't have any kind of fast charging? Is that a joke? Are they expecting people to pay money for this when compared to... any other EV on the market...?
James Bloomfield I think that 20%-100% in 2,5h is pretty fast charging and it is a city car and not a long distance like the Tesla 😊
So you'd be buying your Smart for road trips and Autobahn cruising then?
Main considerion in terms of range for most people will be the round trip dropping off kids to school, driving to work, and back via the supermarket. Many employers offer charging infra. Car is always full in the morning if you have a driveway or garage.
Its perfect for a daily commute runabout car.
Sure, but what about that one time a year that you want to take a road trip? This car is totally unsuitable for it because of the low range, which means it can't be your only car, which for a lot of people means they can't buy it because owning two cars is too expensive.
thats the reason its 10 grand cheaper than a lot of other electric cars obviously.
its designed to be a city car, and a study said most journeys are short;
www.sustrans.org.uk/sites/default/files/documents/guidelines_16.pdf
no need for a big costly battery in a majority of city dwellers cars.
if you have an occasional long trip, hire a bigger car, simple really
I really don't understand what is so "smart" about this car or a decision to buy one?
Its a small urban runabout, great for single people like myself, who really only use a car to go to the local supermarket once a week, and to go to the hardware store every now. And obviously for the commute. EG: I commute to and from work 10 miles a day. over a week that is 50 miles, leaving some charge for the weekend shop and small outing. I would be charging once a week, probably on Sunday evening, for very little cost compared to petrol.
Usually the word "smart" ( like "smart phone" or "smart appliances" ) refers to a product that has some more intelligence than other products in its category. So, how is this car smarter than any other car out there?
Alright I see your point. Yes there are other 'smarter' cars out there, with better range and charge time, and more capacity, at not much extra cost, but for me its a good car. Everyone will have a different view and I accept that. But I see your point.
Absolutely Brilliant! I hope we get to see more reviews of this caliber.
I am tempted as dealer price for like new used is a few thousand bucks in some markets and it is worth shipping at 3k or less with 4kish on odometer especially with factory white paint unblemished kept indoors sold indoors and that asking being starting price duh. they did start at 8k but have dropped price,to at most $3,000 really FINANCED so what is the on six year loan a buck and change a day... cheaper to own insure fuel and all but afford time to stare at road like some duffus without a life then a bus pass. on bus you can get work done try doing that safely in any car available at comparative cost to total costs of transit from all parties....
cars and bikes scooters etc waste road capacity and cost too much with cheap Wal-Mart bikes costing far more then this Mercedes to drive or pedal.
But very few are made fewer are sold and like a six figure to buy small hybrid cargo van now just 20 ish also barely used but capable of 40 mpg all day,and night working nonstop price comes to haunt externals if not bargain seekers.
this is a hot tip... check car.com install app buy 2019 hamster mobiles depreciated or just bolts smart cars or yesterday's 10k ebilkes for pennies on dollar off cl.
The uae loves nuclear power electricity and has four on order or built already cuz duh they in there insane engineering guarantee oil will be in greater not lesser demand.
nuclear heat created closed cycle turbine fuel works in cars etc. and makes threat nihm patent posed seem no story in defusal because only over my dead body will we ignore fission when powering cars by making them electric so diminuoussly disruptive.
nuclear tech obsoletes burning and batteries it is only corrupt democratic inaction that has grid dementia destroying planet.
batteries and electric 'motors' are greatest threat to life on earth simply put. trust me or study the facts exist for decades. oil is very bad. electrification makes it worse
Tesla Roaster was a convertible! So not first Open Top driving EV!
Kevin Zabel mass produced?
I have a 2010 insignia estate and it's cramped.
I am 6 foot 4" though.
I love the Smart. Having done a couple of roadtrips in Portugal and Spain in rental Smart's (fourtwo and fourfour), they proved themselves to be capable of motorway prefectly well.
I ride a motorcycle daily and don't have a car but when/if I feel I need one I can see it being either a Smart fourtwo electric or a van...
what a beautiful detail presentation, so informative...!! I love the way he gets into all the minute details... I watch all the videos and im a big big fan .. good work.. best of luck..!!
Great episode! Not that fond of the car, but in many ways I like what it brings to the table: reasonable price to quality ratio, a truly made for the city e-vehicle, ...
Sorry Robert but this guy is sooooo much better than you at car reviews. From now on can we have him do the car reviews? Pretty please??
Robert and Johnny, what a wonderful balance. This channel is just class.
I always liked the Smart, now I just love it!
Here's an idea: When showing stats like top speed and range on screen, please do it in metric as well. Imperial makes no sense to most of the world.
Very nice I'd say....needs a Honda generator on a trailer...😏🤔😎.....then smarch on....😖😂😉🤓....is that 80 ish speed for 100 miles.....?...🤔would be nice....eco by default....but double torque in sport for fifty plus miles....at least...😳😉🤣....yeah johnny...go for the glory...😖😳🙃
I've been a passenger within a Smart Car whilst the lady owner rushed me to an airport.
... eeep, I'd rather be late. They shift - my time of death back