This vintage video is still as amazing as when you first turned the bowl and plate. It was so good that i had to watch it for the third time, and I am still amazed at your talent. Some day when I grow up I am going to attempt to turn one like it.🙌 KEEP ON TURNING
I am going to try this -- looks great -- it is odd watching your old videos --you have always been good at your craft but time has definitely increased your confidants -- I am glad it has made you a good teacher --
Just noticed I commented on this one TWO YEARS ago! Forgive me for putting a new comment in, but it does prove that there are always new things to see whenever you revisit a video of yours. I find they are so dense with information that you can't take it all in at first! (That's my excuse for forgetting, and I'm sticking to it!)
Bonsoir Phil ! C'est une magnifique réalisation, que d'émotions en regardant cette vidéo avec des débuts de "plantage" qui font peur ... Nous étions tenus en haleine jusqu'au bout ! Cette réalisation donne envie de mettre des fruits dans le bol et ensuite les noyaux dans l'assiette. C'est une oeuvre qui donne des idées ! Congratulation Phil ! Prenez soin de vous ! Cordialement, Jean-Luc
Thank you very much, Michael! I keep forgetting, I want to do another one of these. I now have a small tool that I think will allow me to get in between the bowl and the plate, better.
@@PhilAndersonShadyAcresWoodshopI’m having a great time watching many of your older videos and reading the comments including this one. Did you ever turn another one like this? If so, I would love to see that one too! 👌👍💕
I don’t think I can just jam it in there, then does exactly that! And it’s working even though you don’t feel comfortable. Seems like there might be a parable in there somewhere. 😉
@@BobbieJeanM No I haven't, BobbieJean. I've run into the same issue on a couple pieces, one was a vase, but I haven't set out to duplicate this one. I should, I think it's kinda cool. 😊
Hi Phil only recently discovered yr chanel I'm not a turner I'm a carpenter joiner yr work makes me want to have a try I love yr work I find it so relaxing to watch
Hi Phil, the maple "feather bowl" really finished up beatifully. Always enjoy your videos and have learned so much from them over these past couple years. Stay well and keep em' comin. Wayne in Wisc. 🤓
You did great! This bowl is awesome. You do such wonderful work.All I know you from is these videos but I'm so proud of you and what you can do,I have to show my family when you do something amazing from an impossible chunk of wood.
Very nice Phil... it's very interesting to see how your technique has changed a little over the years... I love watching you create your art ! Your very talented and have a great imagination...
I can't stop watching your videos. I do like live edge but you've begun to open my mind and eyes to what you create. I love the junk wood pieces too. You've only got a year on me and now I want to set up a woodwork shop. I started looking at lathes too.
Really nice bowl! You worked so hard and the end result is so cool. I like hearing your thinking out loud to working out the hiccups as they appear on a piece. I'm glad you don't give up when the going gets tough. You are a true craftsman, Phil.
This was a lot like the bowl and plate that I just did. I had some of the same cutting problem. Mine was a block of oak pallet slats & a sanding nightmare. I wanted to turn a square bowl. Ended up being a square 7 in. plate with round bowl. 3 in. high. Great job on yours. I makes me feel better when I know I'm not the only one that has to brainstorm a turning.
Oh Phil it's absolutely elegant. I see almost smell the fresh, hot muffins coming out of the and into the bowl. Lined with a simple tea towel to wrap over them so the look of the bowl is a vision to behold. Nothing simple about this piece, your heart and passion for wood turning is evident. Stunning.
If you want something that looks more fancy, then a finished edge on the bowl would be better. But because of the spalting and worm holes, I don’t think that style would be appropriate for this wood. I love the way it turned out, the grain, spalting and worm holes give it a lot of character and natural beauty imo. I might put different types of pine cones or dried flowers in the bowl and use it as a centerpiece on the dining room table. Obviously I’m not a fancy pat all! 💕👌👍😊💕
Phil, if you have one, I would have used a carbide 35 degree diamond cutter to get into the bottom of the bowl to make an undercut, then as you withdraw, do a bit of a scrap on the bowl bottom to round off the edge. The carbide inserts that I use are not flat, they are designed for cutting aluminum so they have a very positive and very sharp chip breaker. With that style they actually cut the wood as opposed to scraping it like most flat carbide inserts. The insert is typically labelled as a VCGT-160404-AK. The last 2 numbers dictate the tip radius, in this case .04mm which is very pointed. I think these should be a direct change out for the Easy Wood diamond inserts. Amazon has lots of inserts like this but shop around as you shouldn't have to pay more than about $35 or so for a pack of 10.
I have different tools now that make this job easier, Peter but, still not easy. The bar has to be thick enough to not vibrate at the long extension but if it is, the cutter is too big. I have the 3/8" bar detailer and the 1/2" bar detailer. One vibrates, the other is too big. But, I can get it done just as I did here, just not quite to my satisfaction.
When you said you looked at the plates you use, the scene played out in my head something like this: You and your wife eating dinner and she notices you are intently looking at your plate. She says "Honey what are you doing." You reply curtly, "research". Great bowl! I love your work. It is very inspirational.
Howdy Phill, Watched the plate with bowl again for the 6th time. I'm searching for a piece so that I can give it a try. I felt your stress the whole time Love it Phill Darrell Pizzagoni Barber in Redding
Phil, as always loved your work and its a great piece. Ive watched several of your creations ,and honestly wish you used the sand and sealer with the gloss finish and not the wax ,Just makes the piece look so much better to me .But your the artist .The work is always great
Thank You Phil ..."I'm not a fan of carbide"...gosh... ( as a machinist I would be lost without it )...I like the old idea brought back...yea...I also like this warmer weather, I do not cringe so much with your short sleeves..ha..Please work safe I look forward to your next adventure....beautiful job, thanks.....tm
Mr. Marginez ...I too a machinist since 1973 , use high speed cobalt with special handles I made , to turn wood . I too would be lost . Nice to read that a machinist wood turns. Keep it up Mr. M . safety first
Interesting Bruce...I started my job in 1974..so you beat me...I am totally manual & love it !!!...I am amazed today to watch folks calculate the life of a drill bit than throw away before it breaks...Nobody can offhand grind small drills...So much is gained with technology BUT so much is lost...I enjoy Phil with his hands on determination...Here I sit ...now out to my shop...thanks Bruce...tm
Ha! Well, carbide certainly has it's place, I'm just not so sure it's at the end of a lathe chisel. Still, it does what I need it to do, just not with finesse. Thank you, Tuffy, for continuing to watch and comment!
That's a cool project, I have a carbide finish tip that would work great between the plate and bowl . Eventually I will try this one too. Thanks for the video Phil ! You're my mentor.
I know I'm late to this party, Phil, but I'm gradually working through your back catalogue! (I should be up-to-date by about 2025!!) I'm not commenting on all of 'em, but I love this one! The work you put into it is incredible, and it looked as if it was fighting you every step of the way! It certainly came out good in the end though, and was worth the effort! While you keep 'em coming, I'll keep on watching 'em!
It's kind of a tough turn, but with perseverance, I know you can get the job done, Garth! I will probably do another, one day, I have a better chisel now to get into that corner. Thank you for taking your time to watch and comment, much appreciated! Phil
I like your design, a bowl on a plate. Those catches had me holding my breath. This goes on my to do list. Believe I'll do a regular edge bowl at your suggestion. Great video.
I hope you do one, Ray. When I turned this, there were none on TH-cam that I could find, at least called by this name. I'd like to do another one. I bought a couple of tools that I think will get into that transition a little easier. Good luck and thank you for watching!
Watching this for the first time. Wondering if delineating the two components with a parting tool might have made this go a little smoother? Loving the idea.
Nothing like a brand new shape to force your skills to grow hey Phil! :) Nicely done buddy! I haven't checked comments so apologies if this has been suggested a lot already... That point where the bowl meets the plate looked like a perfect opportunity to use a 'Detail Carbide Scraper" (the one with a very sharp/narrow diamond shape) I suspect it would have allowed you to get that channel nice and deep, then just shear scrape smooth or sanding or something. But yay my bet would have been on the detail scraper for that task :)
I agree, the detail scraper would have been a good choice here! I have one, now but this video is probably at least five years old and I didn't have one, then. 😄
@@PhilAndersonShadyAcresWoodshop Whoa! haha I guess I should pay more attention to the date on the video haha. I thought this was recent lol (I do that a lot :p )
Another amazing piece Phil. I knew you would figure it out and finish it. Can't wait for my bigger lathe. My first attempt is going to be your chip and dip bowl.
Lovely new addition to your repertoire and something I have never seen before. Your patience in trying to get that separation between bowl and plate had me sweating for a while. Could you have maybe tried your skew chisel or the double bladed one you use to cut both tenon and mortise angles? How you managed to edge your tools in without that nasty snatch Eeeeek!!, defies me. You are a true master.
Thank you, Alan! I'm not competent enough with the skew. Just the thought of it scares me to death! LOL! The diamond point tool is very light weight and likely would have bent under the pressure extended that far over the tool rest. I just did the best I could with what was available to me. 😊
@@PhilAndersonShadyAcresWoodshop Duh color me silly. The diamond point tool would have been my first choice, now looking back over I see what you mean about the large gap you were covering. Thank you so much for taking the time to point out my errors, I really do appreciate the effort you go to educating limeys like me lol. Bless you Phil.
Agree with your comment full bowl not natural edge would have looked better, I have a feeling you won't rush to do another, unless there is a tool to get into tight places you could get hold of, the plate part looks good so well done for struggling through.
I wonder if a small negative-rake carbide detailer would've made that transition point between the bottom of the bowl and the plate a little bit easier. Might be worth a try sometime, Phil. Still, this project turned out nicely.
It did turn out pretty good, Billy. I may make another when I get a different chisel to get in a little closer. Thank you, Billy, for watching and commenting!
Well you pulled another one out of the hat....or should I say plate. Nice job and I think the shape is just right. I did a goblet growing out of a plate and both had natural edges but it looks like child's play compared to what you came up with. Thanks for more ideas to try. Gary
madronawoodworks Not yet Phil we are still camping. About a 100 family members here for the big potluck meal. We had a mini family golf tournament yesterday. Also had some crawfish from the Nehalem river which we are camped right on the banks of. Heading home tomorrow but it will take some work to get things back on place after the lathe swap. Thanks Gary
You seem to understand exactly my thoughts on separation, Cynthia. Thank you! I plan to do another, not natural edge, and will see what I can come up with.
I thought you were going to do it ,I kept telling the screen "yea phil but the bead will make it pop you'll see,LOL I'm silly sometimes but I was actually picturing it,and waiting for it too happen..Have a great weekend..I still love it though..
Great job Phil! I was calling out “thin parting tool” but you couldn’t hear me with all the noise going on. It’s what I use to undercut mushroom caps and then I pick up a detail spindle gouge to get a crisp edge :)
Hahaha! I did hear you, Tim, during a break. But when I got back to it, I forgot! Old age, ya know. Next time I'll remember. Thank you so much for your humorous comment, much appreciated!
That’s a neat project Phil, gave you a bit of a work out but you got there. No criticism from me, we all have our own way of turning & as long as safety comes first, better to get to the end in one piece. The old saying, ask ten turners how to do something & you’ll get eleven answers. Regards from the UK Geof
@@PhilAndersonShadyAcresWoodshop Phil when you say you'll have to sand this and I'll be back in 2 hours do you mean it takes that time to sqnd it ,,, I'm a year into woodturning and I'm fascinated with your approach to the whole thing
@@harrolin Yes, Ciaran, I often spend a couple hours sanding. It just depends on the complexity of a piece. I recently spent five hours sanding and preparing a piece for finish. What I learned early on is, if a piece looks beautiful, people want to pick it up and touch it. If it doesn't feel as good as it looks, all of a sudden it doesn't look so good anymore. 😊
@@PhilAndersonShadyAcresWoodshop That makes sence Phil , and probelly makes more sence to me because when i think im finished and apply the sand an sealer then it drys then i reslise im going to have to get a bowl gough to it again to get the sand an sealer off and start sanding again ( one step forward and two back ) love your videos and approch please keep them comin phil
Brilliant Phil, a great project. I would really like to see you do another one! I wonder if a narrow Parting Tool might have helped for the problem at the base of the bowl. Thanks Graham
Howdy, Phil! I think this is my favourite up to now. It's surprising how much I got drawn into the video. I found myself almost mesmerized to the point where each time your gouge slipped as you were going further into the undercut I was flinching and ducking out of the way in case the plate broke off or shattered and came flying out of the screen at me!! I guess that tells you how much I was "into" the process! Thank you Phil! It almost felt like I was there with you!
Wow, what a wonderful comment, Phil! It's good to know that when watching my videos my viewers can get their exercise at the same time! LOL! I wish you could have been here with me, that would be great! Phil
I use an old putty knife and an old short hard point saw blade with the teeth ground off and resharpened as parting tools. They work quite well both as parting tools and as detailing tools. I don't bother putting new handles on them. Many 'other trades' tools can be repurposed for woodturning.
Phil, once you have it in the chuck and begin your plan mapping do you ever draw your pencil lines like to ID the plate top to avoid going to low/thin on the plate lip turning? New Englanders' just trying to see what you see as you turn. 🧓🍁
I wouldn't say never, Jessi but, maybe once. I prefer to just fly by the seat of my pants. Planning isn't my forte'. It's just a matter of stop often and look at what you have.
Well you got there in the end. Found myself shouting"just because it's a bowl does not mean use have to use a chisel that says bowl". I think I would have tried a skew or something pointed to get into the separation of plate and bowl. Whenever I reach one of those points where I get frustrated with the situation it gives me the opportunity to go outside the box and try to do it differently.
Truly a case of you had to be there, Mark. I could not find a tool that offered the angle I wanted. However, I do have one now and may turn another one of these. But, like you say, I got there in the end. Thank you for your comment! Phil
Phil, just remember Anchor, Bevel, Cut. - ABC. Your gouge is more controllable with Bevel support. Plus a solid bite on the tennon in a chuck will help, so reverse it SOONER! Stay safe
Well that does it! I'll never become an accomplished wood turner. I don't drink coffee. I think I had my last cup about 40 years ago. Would A&W root beer work in there? No, I guess not. To define the line between plate and bowl, why wouldn't the skew have done a good job, leaving a very fine sharp line between the two? Perspiring minds want to know. Keep turning.
Believe me, when I make a cut like this needed to be, I think of every possible tool I could use. I imagine the cut as it's happening. There is no way I would stick a skew chisel in that juncture. This had everything to do with the reach over the tool rest. But, I now have a couple tools that would likely make this an easy job, should I ever try another one. 😊
I made a cedar "clay" flower pot and saucer. I used my parting tool to make most of the separation cut, then used my skews. Unconventional I know but it worked. JC
What a cool idea Phil! Beautiful shape and figure! The proportions between the bowl and plate and their respective wall thicknesses were right on the money. I have to say that I actually like the natural edge to the bowl in this piece. You were thinking otherwise, but I look at it and it's all the more "sculpted" this way. Adds a lot of movement to me. It sure looked like a scary turn! There was really no easy way going about it. I once turned a small candle holder from a 5" branch (mounted cross grain) that I wanted to basically be a little cup on a little Slab. I had same problems with getting the tool in there and it was scary the whole way through. Your turning was much larger and deeper area to cut. I can't imagine what you were feeling putting your gouge down in between the pate and bowl. That was exciting to watch! Lol I always enjoy your projects and turning/video style Phil, please keep them coming! Kyler
Thanks, Kyler. It takes a turner to know what this was like and you nailed it. Still, I'm going to try again, another time. Someone suggested the Easy Wood Detailer to get in there and I think that may be just the tool. Besides, always looking for a reason to buy a new tool! Now I have to go see if you have posted a new project. I'm sure you have so I'm gonna put my feet up and see what Ky has been up to!
madronawoodworks That makes perfect sense with the EWT detailer. That narrow sharp cutter would get in there nicely. And I think you definitely should pursue this idea further, it's a really neat idea! You're making great use of all the wood Valerie gave you my friend.
Hi Phil, now that was a difficult turn. I think all the youtube viewers were holding their breath throughout that undercut. You said you were unsure about the natural edge and that made me think of an alternative use for the piece. instead of a bowl on a plate turn it upside down and it’s a mortarboard for a college student ..... just a thought ;o) David
No matter what you start, a good looking piece comes out of it.
Signing off.
Haha, thanks, Ronnie! 😊
This vintage video is still as amazing as when you first turned the bowl and plate. It was so good that i had to watch it for the third time, and I am still amazed at your talent. Some day when I grow up I am going to attempt to turn one like it.🙌 KEEP ON TURNING
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The natural edge is what makes it special and standout. It not just some bowl on a plate 😊😊😊😊😊
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I am going to try this -- looks great -- it is odd watching your old videos --you have always been good at your craft but time has definitely increased your confidants -- I am glad it has made you a good teacher --
Thank you, Lynda! This piece will be a challenge but I think it's worth the effort. 😊
Just noticed I commented on this one TWO YEARS ago! Forgive me for putting a new comment in, but it does prove that there are always new things to see whenever you revisit a video of yours. I find they are so dense with information that you can't take it all in at first! (That's my excuse for forgetting, and I'm sticking to it!)
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Love it, I learned so much today by watching close up of you cutting away that “puzzle bowl and plate”
Yay, good to know, thanks! 😊
Bonsoir Phil ! C'est une magnifique réalisation, que d'émotions en regardant cette vidéo avec des débuts de "plantage" qui font peur ...
Nous étions tenus en haleine jusqu'au bout ! Cette réalisation donne envie de mettre des fruits dans le bol et ensuite les noyaux dans l'assiette. C'est une oeuvre qui donne des idées ! Congratulation Phil ! Prenez soin de vous ! Cordialement, Jean-Luc
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❤,watching your videos inspires me to try different things 👍
This is the best thing I can read, William, thank you! Go for it! 😊
"Junk Wood" - No way Phil! Really nicely done. "Pig in a poke" maybe. Either way, it's great. Good job.🤓
Thank you, Wayne! Glad you enjoyed it. 😀
Late to this video but sure do like the results of your hard work!!! As difficult as it was to turn you did a wonderful job. 🥰
Thanks so much! 😊
I've been watching your channel for a couple years now and I'm just now seeing your "Bowl on a plate" video. Super cool, Sir. Super cool.
Cool, thanks! 😊
Well done. Many challenges. You resolved them well. Neat tricks. Again beautiful. Nice finish.
Thank you very much, Michael! I keep forgetting, I want to do another one of these. I now have a small tool that I think will allow me to get in between the bowl and the plate, better.
@@PhilAndersonShadyAcresWoodshopI’m having a great time watching many of your older videos and reading the comments including this one. Did you ever turn another one like this? If so, I would love to see that one too! 👌👍💕
I don’t think I can just jam it in there, then does exactly that! And it’s working even though you don’t feel comfortable. Seems like there might be a parable in there somewhere. 😉
@@BobbieJeanM No I haven't, BobbieJean. I've run into the same issue on a couple pieces, one was a vase, but I haven't set out to duplicate this one. I should, I think it's kinda cool. 😊
Hi Phil only recently discovered yr chanel I'm not a turner I'm a carpenter joiner yr work makes me want to have a try I love yr work I find it so relaxing to watch
Welcome aboard, Mark and thank you! If you get the chance to do some turning, that's it, life as you know it is over. LOL! 😊
Very cute, I like it, well done! 😍🇬🇧
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Wonderful turnout! Didn't seem easy to make, good job!
It was a pain, Morgan but, at the same time, a fun challenge. Thank you for watching! 😊
Hi Phil, the maple "feather bowl" really finished up beatifully. Always enjoy your videos and have learned so much from them over these past couple years. Stay well and keep em' comin. Wayne in Wisc. 🤓
I'll do my best Wayne, thank you! 😀
That is an amazing bowl. Great vision to come up with that.
Glad you like it, thanks! 😊
You did great! This bowl is awesome. You do such wonderful work.All I know you from is these videos but I'm so proud of you and what you can do,I have to show my family when you do something amazing from an impossible chunk of wood.
I really appreciate that, Patricia. Thank you! 😊
Very nice Phil... it's very interesting to see how your technique has changed a little over the years... I love watching you create your art ! Your very talented and have a great imagination...
Wow, thank you 😊
PHIL, THAT IS BEAUTIFUL, GREAT JOB, GREAT REPAIR, GREAT VIDEO, IT DINNER TIME HERE IN ARKANSAS...
Right on, Catfish, I gotta start thinking about my dinner, too! 😊
So cool Phil! The coffee is a nice touch!
Thanks, Tina! 😊
Once again you amaze us! I love the natural edge. It gives the bowl an antique look!
Glad you like it, Brenda, thanks! 😊
I can't stop watching your videos. I do like live edge but you've begun to open my mind and eyes to what you create. I love the junk wood pieces too. You've only got a year on me and now I want to set up a woodwork shop. I started looking at lathes too.
I was 69 when I bought this lathe, probably my last. I wondered at the time if I was too old. I wasn't and I'm not! Go for it, Jessi!
Really nice bowl! You worked so hard and the end result is so cool. I like hearing your thinking out loud to working out the hiccups as they appear on a piece. I'm glad you don't give up when the going gets tough. You are a true craftsman, Phil.
Thank you, Karen, this means a lot to me! 😊
This was a lot like the bowl and plate that I just did. I had some of the same cutting problem.
Mine was a block of oak pallet slats & a sanding nightmare. I wanted to turn a square bowl. Ended up being a square 7 in. plate with round bowl. 3 in. high.
Great job on yours. I makes me feel better when I know I'm not the only one that has to brainstorm a turning.
...Keep up the good work!
Sounds cool, Steven, thanks!
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Love the grain . It Looks very tedious but worth the effort.
Thank you, Stewart! Tedious for sure! 😄
I really like this one! 🎶💕
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Love your videos thanks for sharing awesome job
This makes me so happy, Bram! Thank you very much!
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Well turned, PHIL!
Thank you, Richard! 😄
I enjoy your narrative as you face each challenge. You are fun to watch,thank you for sharing your talents and time with us.
So nice of you, Michael, thank you! 😊
Oh Phil it's absolutely elegant. I see almost smell the fresh, hot muffins coming out of the and into the bowl. Lined with a simple tea towel to wrap over them so the look of the bowl is a vision to behold. Nothing simple about this piece, your heart and passion for wood turning is evident. Stunning.
Thanks so much, Jessi! 😊
If you want something that looks more fancy, then a finished edge on the bowl would be better. But because of the spalting and worm holes, I don’t think that style would be appropriate for this wood. I love the way it turned out, the grain, spalting and worm holes give it a lot of character and natural beauty imo. I might put different types of pine cones or dried flowers in the bowl and use it as a centerpiece on the dining room table. Obviously I’m not a fancy pat all! 💕👌👍😊💕
"Not fancy" Love that, BobbieJean! 😊
Phil, if you have one, I would have used a carbide 35 degree diamond cutter to get into the bottom of the bowl to make an undercut, then as you withdraw, do a bit of a scrap on the bowl bottom to round off the edge. The carbide inserts that I use are not flat, they are designed for cutting aluminum so they have a very positive and very sharp chip breaker. With that style they actually cut the wood as opposed to scraping it like most flat carbide inserts. The insert is typically labelled as a VCGT-160404-AK. The last 2 numbers dictate the tip radius, in this case .04mm which is very pointed. I think these should be a direct change out for the Easy Wood diamond inserts. Amazon has lots of inserts like this but shop around as you shouldn't have to pay more than about $35 or so for a pack of 10.
I have different tools now that make this job easier, Peter but, still not easy. The bar has to be thick enough to not vibrate at the long extension but if it is, the cutter is too big. I have the 3/8" bar detailer and the 1/2" bar detailer. One vibrates, the other is too big. But, I can get it done just as I did here, just not quite to my satisfaction.
When you said you looked at the plates you use, the scene played out in my head something like this:
You and your wife eating dinner and she notices you are intently looking at your plate. She says "Honey what are you doing." You reply curtly, "research".
Great bowl! I love your work. It is very inspirational.
Haha, quite an imagination you've got there! Thank you!
Great job Phil 👍
Thank you, William!
Phil, you are an inspiration because you never give up, I like that. Nice job!
HA! I never give up because I'm frugal and hate wasting wood! Thank you, James!
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I love the bowl on a plate idea . Very nice! I enjoy all your videos very much.
Thanks so much, Roger! 😊 I like the idea, too. I may give it another go when the right piece of wood comes along.
That was very clever. I’m impressed.
Thank you, John!
Howdy Phill,
Watched the plate with bowl again for the 6th time.
I'm searching for a piece so that I can give it a try.
I felt your stress the whole time
Love it Phill
Darrell Pizzagoni
Barber in Redding
I have tools now that would probably make this a lot easier. I should try another! 😊
Very nice! Hard job.
Thank you, Donna! Yes, it was difficult but It's growing on me.
Beautiful Work...
Thank you very much, Freedomsailer! Your comment makes me smile!
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I knew you could do it. I hope some day i can turn as well as you. I am taking a bowl turning class tomorrow at the local sawmill
Have fun, Andy! 😊
It makes me feel good about what I try and turn as I watch you struggle with this bowl, plate project. Good job Phil.
Thank you, Judith! This was a tough turning, just the weird angles and limited space, I guess. It's good to know you are a turner, too!
Looks stunning.
I'm glad you like it, Johannes, thank you!
You worked through many challenges with this plate/bowl. What about a diamond tip for the boundary crease? Bravo!
Yes! Thank you! I have new tools, now, that will help with the next one. 😊
Phil, esse ficou lindo de mais!!!
Que bom que gostou, Maurício, obrigado! 😊
Phil, as always loved your work and its a great piece. Ive watched several of your creations ,and honestly wish you used the sand and sealer with the gloss finish and not the wax ,Just makes the piece look so much better to me .But your the artist .The work is always great
Thank you, Garrett! 😊
Thank You Phil ..."I'm not a fan of carbide"...gosh... ( as a machinist I would be lost without it )...I like the old idea brought back...yea...I also like this warmer weather, I do not cringe so much with your short sleeves..ha..Please work safe I look forward to your next adventure....beautiful job, thanks.....tm
Mr. Marginez ...I too a machinist since 1973 , use high speed cobalt with special handles I made , to turn wood . I too would be lost . Nice to read that a machinist wood turns. Keep it up Mr. M . safety first
Interesting Bruce...I started my job in 1974..so you beat me...I am totally manual & love it !!!...I am amazed today to watch folks calculate the life of a drill bit than throw away before it breaks...Nobody can offhand grind small drills...So much is gained with technology BUT so much is lost...I enjoy Phil with his hands on determination...Here I sit ...now out to my shop...thanks Bruce...tm
Ha! Well, carbide certainly has it's place, I'm just not so sure it's at the end of a lathe chisel. Still, it does what I need it to do, just not with finesse. Thank you, Tuffy, for continuing to watch and comment!
So Cool, Phil!
Thanks, Bennett! I need to do another with a nicer piece of wood. 😀
That's a cool project, I have a carbide finish tip that would work great between the plate and bowl . Eventually I will try this one too. Thanks for the video Phil ! You're my mentor.
Go for it, Mark! I've got a couple newer tools that would probably make this job a lot easier, now. Good luck with yours!
Very nice mint your work is amazing and can not stop watching and waiting for new ones that you do look forward to the next one kirk stoke on trent 👍
Thank you very much, Kirk!
Phil
I know I'm late to this party, Phil, but I'm gradually working through your back catalogue! (I should be up-to-date by about 2025!!)
I'm not commenting on all of 'em, but I love this one! The work you put into it is incredible, and it looked as if it was fighting you every step of the way! It certainly came out good in the end though, and was worth the effort!
While you keep 'em coming, I'll keep on watching 'em!
I appreciate your time and comments, Phil, thank you!
I’ve never seen anyone do this, very interesting. Well done!
Watched this video for the 4th time now, brilliant, and I can find no other videos on this type of turning, well done Phil. Good man. Cheers
Thank you very much, Steve! I really would like to try this again.
Phil
That was a lot work!!! But well worth the effort,very very nice!!!👍👍👍
Thank you, Jack! Yes, this one was a challenge. I'd like to do another one day. I think I can do better but this did come out pretty well.
Phil
Nice job, GOOD LOOKING
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I tink its a real Nice Woods löve it.
Thank you so much! 😊
Amazing Work Phil
Great job. Maybe now I'll try one. You give me courage.
It's kind of a tough turn, but with perseverance, I know you can get the job done, Garth! I will probably do another, one day, I have a better chisel now to get into that corner. Thank you for taking your time to watch and comment, much appreciated!
Phil
WOW, Nice Job
Thanks, Tim! 😊
I like your design, a bowl on a plate. Those catches had me holding my breath. This goes on my to do list. Believe I'll do a regular edge bowl at your suggestion. Great video.
I hope you do one, Ray. When I turned this, there were none on TH-cam that I could find, at least called by this name. I'd like to do another one. I bought a couple of tools that I think will get into that transition a little easier. Good luck and thank you for watching!
Watching this for the first time. Wondering if delineating the two components with a parting tool might have made this go a little smoother? Loving the idea.
I wanted a sharp delineation, James. Parting tool would leave it square. I now have tools that would make this easier and may do another some day.
I look forward to your second attempt.
good going phil!!
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Nothing like a brand new shape to force your skills to grow hey Phil! :) Nicely done buddy! I haven't checked comments so apologies if this has been suggested a lot already... That point where the bowl meets the plate looked like a perfect opportunity to use a 'Detail Carbide Scraper" (the one with a very sharp/narrow diamond shape) I suspect it would have allowed you to get that channel nice and deep, then just shear scrape smooth or sanding or something. But yay my bet would have been on the detail scraper for that task :)
I agree, the detail scraper would have been a good choice here! I have one, now but this video is probably at least five years old and I didn't have one, then. 😄
@@PhilAndersonShadyAcresWoodshop Whoa! haha I guess I should pay more attention to the date on the video haha. I thought this was recent lol (I do that a lot :p )
Another amazing piece Phil. I knew you would figure it out and finish it. Can't wait for my bigger lathe. My first attempt is going to be your chip and dip bowl.
Excellent, Bryan, enjoy your new lathe! 😊
Lovely new addition to your repertoire and something I have never seen before. Your patience in trying to get that separation between bowl and plate had me sweating for a while. Could you have maybe tried your skew chisel or the double bladed one you use to cut both tenon and mortise angles? How you managed to edge your tools in without that nasty snatch Eeeeek!!, defies me. You are a true master.
Thank you, Alan! I'm not competent enough with the skew. Just the thought of it scares me to death! LOL! The diamond point tool is very light weight and likely would have bent under the pressure extended that far over the tool rest. I just did the best I could with what was available to me. 😊
@@PhilAndersonShadyAcresWoodshop Duh color me silly. The diamond point tool would have been my first choice, now looking back over I see what you mean about the large gap you were covering. Thank you so much for taking the time to point out my errors, I really do appreciate the effort you go to educating limeys like me lol. Bless you Phil.
Agree with your comment full bowl not natural edge would have looked better, I have a feeling you won't rush to do another, unless there is a tool to get into tight places you could get hold of, the plate part looks good so well done for struggling through.
And I now have that tool, Lewis! I just used it the other day on a, well, not similar piece but the same separation. Worked a treat!
It was really interesting watching you figure out how to do this as you went along. And the finished product looks great!
Thank you so much, Karl, for watching and commenting, much appreciated!
I wonder if a small negative-rake carbide detailer would've made that transition point between the bottom of the bowl and the plate a little bit easier. Might be worth a try sometime, Phil. Still, this project turned out nicely.
I do have other smaller tools that would make this job easier, now.
You did a great job on it, Phil. Definitely got the look you were going for.
Billy
It did turn out pretty good, Billy. I may make another when I get a different chisel to get in a little closer. Thank you, Billy, for watching and commenting!
Beautiful!!
Thank you, Ed! 😊
I really like it,
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Beautiful job my friend 5 star bowl 👍🏼🍻
Thank you, Tomas! I'll let the wife know I got a perfect score from you! :)
Awesome! We'll done
Thank you! Cheers! 😊
I think you did an amazing job on that piece. I would buy it if it were for sale.
I'm glad you like it, Anita, thank you! 😊
Amazing 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Thanks, J'Lyssa! 😄
Very special bowl .
Thank you, again, for watching and commenting, much appreciated!
Well you pulled another one out of the hat....or should I say plate. Nice job and I think the shape is just right.
I did a goblet growing out of a plate and both had natural edges but it looks like child's play compared to what you came up with.
Thanks for more ideas to try.
Gary
Thank you, Gary! Did you get to try the Laguna, yet, or still "camping?" We camp in a motorhome, too! ;)
madronawoodworks Not yet Phil we are still camping. About a 100 family members here for the big potluck meal. We had a mini family golf tournament yesterday. Also had some crawfish from the Nehalem river which we are camped right on the banks of.
Heading home tomorrow but it will take some work to get things back on place after the lathe swap.
Thanks
Gary
It turned out beautiful, maybe a bead between bowl and plate may
have given the appearance of separation ..Have a great weekend..
You seem to understand exactly my thoughts on separation, Cynthia. Thank you! I plan to do another, not natural edge, and will see what I can come up with.
I thought you were going to do it ,I kept telling the screen "yea phil but the bead will make it pop you'll see,LOL
I'm silly sometimes but I was actually picturing it,and waiting for it too happen..Have a great weekend..I still love it though..
Thanks again, Cynthia, you have a great weekend, too!
Great job Phil! I was calling out “thin parting tool” but you couldn’t hear me with all the noise going on. It’s what I use to undercut mushroom caps and then I pick up a detail spindle gouge to get a crisp edge :)
Hahaha! I did hear you, Tim, during a break. But when I got back to it, I forgot! Old age, ya know. Next time I'll remember. Thank you so much for your humorous comment, much appreciated!
That’s a neat project Phil, gave you a bit of a work out but you got there. No criticism from me, we all have our own way of turning & as long as safety comes first, better to get to the end in one piece. The old saying, ask ten turners how to do something & you’ll get eleven answers.
Regards from the UK
Geof
Haha... So true, Geof! Thank you very much for your great comment and encouragement!
Love this phil
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@@PhilAndersonShadyAcresWoodshop Phil when you say you'll have to sand this and I'll be back in 2 hours do you mean it takes that time to sqnd it ,,, I'm a year into woodturning and I'm fascinated with your approach to the whole thing
@@harrolin Yes, Ciaran, I often spend a couple hours sanding. It just depends on the complexity of a piece. I recently spent five hours sanding and preparing a piece for finish. What I learned early on is, if a piece looks beautiful, people want to pick it up and touch it. If it doesn't feel as good as it looks, all of a sudden it doesn't look so good anymore. 😊
@@PhilAndersonShadyAcresWoodshop That makes sence Phil , and probelly makes more sence to me because when i think im finished and apply the sand an sealer then it drys then i reslise im going to have to get a bowl gough to it again to get the sand an sealer off and start sanding again ( one step forward and two back ) love your videos and approch please keep them comin phil
Brilliant Phil, a great project. I would really like to see you do another one! I wonder if a narrow Parting Tool might have helped for the problem at the base of the bowl. Thanks Graham
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Beautiful
Thank you, Jeannie! 😊
Think it would helpful if you mention what angle grind is on your gouges.
60° on the bowl gouge, Cecil.
I like it. What kind of pen do you use for marking?
Ultra Fine Point Sharpie with paste wax applied over the signature, Ellis. 😊
How would it look if you used the beading tool to create the plates edge?
I guess we'll never know, Jessi. 😊
Great job mate👍👍👍
Thank you so much, Mark!
Good job
Thank you, Garth!
Howdy, Phil! I think this is my favourite up to now. It's surprising how much I got drawn into the video. I found myself almost mesmerized to the point where each time your gouge slipped as you were going further into the undercut I was flinching and ducking out of the way in case the plate broke off or shattered and came flying out of the screen at me!! I guess that tells you how much I was "into" the process! Thank you Phil! It almost felt like I was there with you!
Wow, what a wonderful comment, Phil! It's good to know that when watching my videos my viewers can get their exercise at the same time! LOL! I wish you could have been here with me, that would be great!
Phil
I use an old putty knife and an old short hard point saw blade with the teeth ground off and resharpened as parting tools. They work quite well both as parting tools and as detailing tools. I don't bother putting new handles on them. Many 'other trades' tools can be repurposed for woodturning.
Thank you, Nolan, good advice!
Phil, once you have it in the chuck and begin your plan mapping do you ever draw your pencil lines like to ID the plate top to avoid going to low/thin on the plate lip turning?
New Englanders' just trying to see what you see as you turn. 🧓🍁
I wouldn't say never, Jessi but, maybe once. I prefer to just fly by the seat of my pants. Planning isn't my forte'. It's just a matter of stop often and look at what you have.
Well you got there in the end. Found myself shouting"just because it's a bowl does not mean use have to use a chisel that says bowl". I think I would have tried a skew or something pointed to get into the separation of plate and bowl. Whenever I reach one of those points where I get frustrated with the situation it gives me the opportunity to go outside the box and try to do it differently.
Truly a case of you had to be there, Mark. I could not find a tool that offered the angle I wanted. However, I do have one now and may turn another one of these. But, like you say, I got there in the end. Thank you for your comment!
Phil
Can you burn a line in to create the illusion of depth like a shadow line?
Sure could.
Phil, just remember Anchor, Bevel, Cut. - ABC. Your gouge is more controllable with Bevel support. Plus a solid bite on the tennon in a chuck will help, so reverse it SOONER! Stay safe
Thank you, Paul, for watching and commenting, much appreciated! Phil
Well that does it! I'll never become an accomplished wood turner. I don't drink coffee. I think I had my last cup about 40 years ago. Would A&W root beer work in there? No, I guess not. To define the line between plate and bowl, why wouldn't the skew have done a good job, leaving a very fine sharp line between the two? Perspiring minds want to know. Keep turning.
Believe me, when I make a cut like this needed to be, I think of every possible tool I could use. I imagine the cut as it's happening. There is no way I would stick a skew chisel in that juncture. This had everything to do with the reach over the tool rest. But, I now have a couple tools that would likely make this an easy job, should I ever try another one. 😊
Outstanding
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I made a cedar "clay" flower pot and saucer. I used my parting tool to make most of the separation cut, then used my skews. Unconventional I know but it worked. JC
That's terrific, Liz! 😊
What a cool idea Phil! Beautiful shape and figure! The proportions between the bowl and plate and their respective wall thicknesses were right on the money. I have to say that I actually like the natural edge to the bowl in this piece. You were thinking otherwise, but I look at it and it's all the more "sculpted" this way. Adds a lot of movement to me.
It sure looked like a scary turn! There was really no easy way going about it. I once turned a small candle holder from a 5" branch (mounted cross grain) that I wanted to basically be a little cup on a little Slab. I had same problems with getting the tool in there and it was scary the whole way through. Your turning was much larger and deeper area to cut. I can't imagine what you were feeling putting your gouge down in between the pate and bowl. That was exciting to watch! Lol
I always enjoy your projects and turning/video style Phil, please keep them coming!
Kyler
Thanks, Kyler. It takes a turner to know what this was like and you nailed it. Still, I'm going to try again, another time. Someone suggested the Easy Wood Detailer to get in there and I think that may be just the tool. Besides, always looking for a reason to buy a new tool!
Now I have to go see if you have posted a new project. I'm sure you have so I'm gonna put my feet up and see what Ky has been up to!
madronawoodworks That makes perfect sense with the EWT detailer. That narrow sharp cutter would get in there nicely. And I think you definitely should pursue this idea further, it's a really neat idea! You're making great use of all the wood Valerie gave you my friend.
Hi Phil, now that was a difficult turn. I think all the youtube viewers were holding their breath throughout that undercut. You said you were unsure about the natural edge and that made me think of an alternative use for the piece. instead of a bowl on a plate turn it upside down and it’s a mortarboard for a college student ..... just a thought ;o) David
Don't think I haven't already put it on my head, David! Doesn't fit to bad, either, as long as I don't move. LOL!