KM T9 CA Ägir [WiP] - A Secondary Cruiser!? That Works??

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  • @Flamuu
    @Flamuu  4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Tomorrow at about 15:00 CET KoTS X group stages kick off on my stream! Will be casting as always, should be some crazy games again! Thanks for the support as always!
    Stream: www.twitch.tv/flamuu
    Insta: instagram.com/flamugram/
    Twitter: twitter.com/flamuchz
    Discord: discord.gg/Flamu

    • @OnurKonuralp
      @OnurKonuralp 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      can we get KoTS collection containers by watching Flamu's stream?

    • @selectthedead
      @selectthedead 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could you also show a game or 2 where this ship is getting destroyed, because this ship is SOOOO situational! Otherwise people will play this ship Yolo from the start and sunk left right and center

    • @leehilton9669
      @leehilton9669 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Frankly wows can give it a longer reload and improve the main battery guns so they are worthy of being a tier 9 battle cruisers guns.and keep the secondaries just as they are .

    • @omerbkcgl
      @omerbkcgl 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      which resource we gonna use to get Agir?

  • @MetalH34d
    @MetalH34d 4 ปีที่แล้ว +214

    Says he has not been detonated... gets detonated at 21:10 mark in video haha
    Looks like a fun ship tho

    • @6uiti
      @6uiti 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      i saw this on a clip , gotta love the dm though

    • @alextonev3017
      @alextonev3017 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I tought it was just citadels creating a decastating strike not a detonation

  • @nathanhartanto2544
    @nathanhartanto2544 4 ปีที่แล้ว +190

    WG: "Nooo, we're trying to make a shit german BC, you're not supposed to spec secondaries on it!"
    Flamu: "Hahaha Ägir go brrrrrrrrt"

    • @bertholdbach4959
      @bertholdbach4959 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This meme is stupid, it needs to die.

    • @DaManBearPig
      @DaManBearPig 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Berthold Bach no u

    • @LiveErrors
      @LiveErrors 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Super Cruiser

    • @bertholdbach4959
      @bertholdbach4959 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Harasha Dheekollu Wahts a minion meme? And no, its not "glorious", not at all.

    • @charilaoskaragkounis7412
      @charilaoskaragkounis7412 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@bertholdbach4959: "Noooo this meme makes no sense, it;s not funny"
      Nathan Hartanto: "Hahaha meme go brrrrt"

  • @shadowsayan3454
    @shadowsayan3454 4 ปีที่แล้ว +265

    So we have
    Secondary focused bbs : Bismarck GK ,FGD
    A Cv with good Secondarys: Graf Zepplin,
    A Cruiser with good secondarys: Ägir
    WG Secondary focused DD's when?

    • @jakubslavik5595
      @jakubslavik5595 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      one word: Kiev

    • @martinus_mars
      @martinus_mars 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@jakubslavik5595 also haida

    • @michaelgimenez4032
      @michaelgimenez4032 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      There was a secondary DD during roghewave event lol.
      It was awesome

    • @martinus_mars
      @martinus_mars 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@michaelgimenez4032 well, it was essentially a regular DD, and was based off a regular DD, except its main guns acted like secondaries

    • @akiraraiku
      @akiraraiku 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      german BBs secondayr are so innacurate it's a crime

  • @mertbiberable
    @mertbiberable 4 ปีที่แล้ว +348

    they're so killing this ship... you're not supposed to be having fun when playing non soviet ships its against the dokuments

    • @JokaTHePatriot
      @JokaTHePatriot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      sIKRIT Dokjumjents tovarish.

    • @ainumahtar
      @ainumahtar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Especially as a supercruiser with no fire prevention, at least you will not have fun for a pretty short amount of time ^^

    • @a.cunningham4974
      @a.cunningham4974 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Haha Agir go brrrrrrt

    • @Sonlirain
      @Sonlirain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And now the finishing blow. The secondaries have 5.3 km range. \o/

    • @ainumahtar
      @ainumahtar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Meanwhile the already OP russian cruisers are getting buffs \o/

  • @dextercochran4916
    @dextercochran4916 4 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    Changes if it were Russian:
    Main battery dispersion buff
    Main battery pen buff
    Main battery turret traverse buff
    Secondary nerf
    Torpedo range buff
    Torpedo damage buff
    Armor buff
    12km radar
    Probably stealth buff too

    • @tiago4158
      @tiago4158 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Don't forget the AA survivability nerf!!

    • @alifakbar500
      @alifakbar500 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh and its in tech tree

    • @teh_copbine5081
      @teh_copbine5081 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      yes and to make it not too overpowered they slightly reduce the durability of the close range AA mounts.

    • @garrettledford1147
      @garrettledford1147 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No nerf, you go to gulag now

    • @jasonstewart7581
      @jasonstewart7581 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You just described the Tallinn brah

  • @Axel23410
    @Axel23410 4 ปีที่แล้ว +149

    Wargaming: "we don't want secondaries to be a primary damage output"
    Also Wargaming: *releases the Ägir*
    (I'm not even kidding, they litteraly said this a month ago during a reddit Q&A)

    • @jarrusjenkins
      @jarrusjenkins 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      They also said there wouldn't be submarines or guns bigger than 460mm.
      And look what's happend....

    • @shikikan6345
      @shikikan6345 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Wargaming become tsunderes I see

    • @leonardlyra
      @leonardlyra 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@jarrusjenkins they also said they will never do TX prems, remove premiums, etc

    • @FailureToReport
      @FailureToReport 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Doesn't matter cause they are ABSOLUTELY going to nerf it into uselessness, it's not a Comrade Cruiser, and to make it worse, it's a KMS ship.

    • @Mainz_1901
      @Mainz_1901 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@leonardlyra TX premiums technically aren't a thing, they're reward ships in terms of profitability

  • @NotTheRookie
    @NotTheRookie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    First I was interested in the Ödin, then weegee nerfed it into the ground. Then I was interested in the Ägir, and weegee nerfed it into the ground too. Every time. Every time there's a boat I'm interested in they crush my hopes and dreams.

    • @Nutty31313
      @Nutty31313 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Unless it's Russian, because then they will not bother nerfing it if people are saying they are broken then reluctantly proceed to nerf it, but do it in the most passive aggressive way possible by nerfing it the smallest amount possible unless people get tired and accept how broken it still is.

    • @Nutty31313
      @Nutty31313 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @xellossaxon Yeah I saw that, most battleships in those situations if you aim correctly might get 1 citadel, possibly 2 if you're lucky, *but of course in Soviet Union cruisers get 5 citadels out of 6 shells*

    • @DaManBearPig
      @DaManBearPig 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Think it of this way. They’re saving you money and time.

  • @trlacr1781
    @trlacr1781 4 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    WG when they see any german ship:
    *"You'll be a secondary ship"*

    • @tiago4158
      @tiago4158 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      *and a trashy one

    • @Seppe1106
      @Seppe1106 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Also WG : " But most other navy's secondarys will be better, especially in accuracy. "

    • @renown6386
      @renown6386 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      well the actual thing has onlt 3x2 150mm secondaries. These has the 105mm AA guns and her secondaries replaced with 9x2 128mm

    • @klegolas4088
      @klegolas4088 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      inb4 German U-boats....

  • @wojtek4p4
    @wojtek4p4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Flamu: "Wow I've been so lucky I haven't detonated" 25:43
    Also Flamu: *Detonates* 21:08

    • @Грицко2511
      @Грицко2511 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      i think he is being sarcastic

    • @lunsmann
      @lunsmann 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Грицко2511 Nah, I think he genuinely forgot because that Salem was very close and did blat him hard regardless of the detonation.

    • @michaelcarney6280
      @michaelcarney6280 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lunsmann agreed he must have forgotten or or suppressed that memory

  • @Hahlen
    @Hahlen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    “I’m lucky I haven’t detonated”
    Previous game got detonated by a Salem

  • @711jastin
    @711jastin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Next ship: Floating Gustav Platform with 800mm cannon, range covering the whole map.

    • @ainumahtar
      @ainumahtar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Except it gets German dispersion and you only get to shoot 5 times if the game goes full time. But if you hit it just oneshots whatever it hits, other than Russian ships, which it will overpen.

    • @711jastin
      @711jastin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ainumahtar i doubt an HE will overpen *laughs in crazy Nazi scientist*

    • @hmswarspite3233
      @hmswarspite3233 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That was planned

    • @hyennavernhyavonragnarok3999
      @hyennavernhyavonragnarok3999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@711jastin he will bounce of soviet ships tho

  • @Lightningshattr
    @Lightningshattr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Give the kurfurst these secondaries plz. seems like an improvement

    • @Poctyk
      @Poctyk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Oh they are. Not only do they have better starting accuracy (think of it as inbuild -20% mod) but they have almost 50% more DPM per mount

    • @MarcusKuann
      @MarcusKuann 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Poctyk If they were,gk would be playable.It isnt ;)

    • @renown6386
      @renown6386 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      well this has in total 9x2 128mm and GK has in total 10x2 128mm + 4x2 150mm

    • @MarcusKuann
      @MarcusKuann 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@renown6386 This is 2x more accurate and with alot better reload

    • @Squantanamo
      @Squantanamo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@renown6386 the number of guns don't matter if they can't hit anything. Just look at t6 secondaries on ships like Warspite and Bayern. They should be good but don't hit anything. Obviously that's and extreme example but it's the same kind of thing.

  • @CloneDAnon
    @CloneDAnon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I dont think people expect a cruiser to be a secondary monster.

    • @Coyote27981
      @Coyote27981 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Try a secondary build on graf spee.
      Range is moderate, but they are great, they melt DDs.

  • @StaK_1980
    @StaK_1980 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    So let me get this straight, this is a ship with:
    - bad armour
    - large, raised citadel
    - has crappy main Armament
    - doesn't tank shit
    - relies solely on a meme build that's bad in the current meta
    - and is German, so it will be nerfed
    Hard pass for me

    • @heysianpopnley5198
      @heysianpopnley5198 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      *laughs in nerf*

    • @ValentineC137
      @ValentineC137 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bad and fun > Good and boring

    • @Sonlirain
      @Sonlirain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And so the fun part was nerfed.
      Now it's a bog standard tier 9 supercruiser.
      You are probably better off just getting the Scharnhorst.

    • @millerbob918
      @millerbob918 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s not that terrible

    • @philpascali4070
      @philpascali4070 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you are crazy it's a great ship

  • @notaidan4451
    @notaidan4451 4 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    What most people see: A failed German Battlecruiser
    What me, an intellectual sees: A T9 Graf Zeppelin where the ‘main weapon’ failed and the secondaries are amazing, similar to Graf Zeppelin.

    • @kagakai7729
      @kagakai7729 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      What everyone other than wehraboos see: free arsonist

    • @MARSRigel1
      @MARSRigel1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You forgot the trash Tier armor.

    • @MARSRigel1
      @MARSRigel1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @eastindies if you saw some streams of Flamu playing this thing aside from this video, then you would know how fast this thing goes down against ships with decent firepower.
      And when your ships only strength lies in sec-spec but you barely cant bow tank nor tank HE very well, then it's a failure in my eyes.

    • @MARSRigel1
      @MARSRigel1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @eastindies I would consider the Alaska or PR as way better armored. Also since the guns cant seem to really do anything, it should have the Armor like the Pedro (new Russian T10 CA), so it could handle T10 matches better. But it is how it is. Let's see how other perform in the Ägir when she gets released.
      The sec are the only good thing here. The rest isn't really anything good.

    • @renown6386
      @renown6386 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      well WG cant do anything to the armor. WG just uses what the actual design Germany had for the O-class and for all the other ships in the game aswell.

  • @devilman2197
    @devilman2197 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    a fun german ship ? watch this get nerf to the ground.

    • @Squantanamo
      @Squantanamo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd say GK is fun even if a little frustrating

  • @chyckanvjnks2092
    @chyckanvjnks2092 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    in Germany we dont say battlecruiser or largecruiser, we call it "Schlachtkreuzer".

  • @ZoidFile
    @ZoidFile 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    No way this thing will be released without another nerf.

  • @CeltSfodster
    @CeltSfodster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Community: FFS not another cyclone game.
    WG: Ahhh we have just the ship for that. BTW its premium.

  • @haradimitroula3175
    @haradimitroula3175 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The old good badass secondary build

  • @robkyle
    @robkyle 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review Flamu. Nice to see your change of heart on the Agir.

  • @BPKPhoenix
    @BPKPhoenix 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Ooh look! A new toy and its my favorite, secondaries!"
    _Kremlin appears._
    *Hopes Shattered.*

  • @Schnatterinchen
    @Schnatterinchen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Compare this to the upcoming russian cruisers....no words. Give this thing a ton of armor, and im okay with it....but... wtf wargaming

    • @domitiusseverus1
      @domitiusseverus1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And maybe main guns that are are least Half as good as the Russians guns?

  • @selectthedead
    @selectthedead 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    How to kill a good ship that had potential. This is rediculously bad! Just like what happened to the Mainz and the Prinz Eitel Friedrich

  • @DanielWW2
    @DanielWW2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yee, thanks Flamu.
    This looks like an actually fun ship to play, despite once again the Germans magically having poor main armament. That is right until the end where reality struck hard...

  • @whyno713
    @whyno713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Now that is my dream CA! WG, don't you dare nerf those secondaries ;(

  • @quazarKiragon
    @quazarKiragon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    its like having very long ranged miniguns that got DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA at everything that gets close to it strapped to the side of your boat

  • @tabxtra7057
    @tabxtra7057 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Ocean mods takes away from the experience.. everything too smooth.

  • @beeschamelsoose476
    @beeschamelsoose476 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    The last time I was this early, the Russians weren't OP.

    • @wiryantirta
      @wiryantirta 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      the last time i was this early, the Russian tree DIDN'T EXIST YET.

    • @thiagosantiago1704
      @thiagosantiago1704 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      don't worry, they gonna keep coming... because is what the parasite do, fucking mass produced bullshit tech tree of soviet ships.

    • @DuduDruidDotCom
      @DuduDruidDotCom 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      But ever since the start of the game, there was Gremi... So I think we need to go back all the way to Alpha.

    • @renown6386
      @renown6386 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thiagosantiago1704 One point they will run out of shit Russian IRL designs tho. They probably did actually.

    • @ottaviomustard7408
      @ottaviomustard7408 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@renown6386 they did run out of IRL Soviet ships long ago. All t9-10 Soviet ships are paper ships, the only exception being Tash. Hell, much of their bb line is paper too. Also most premiums, or at least the most common ones

  • @KapteeniKetza
    @KapteeniKetza 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    20:19 secondaries are marching

  • @Strothy2
    @Strothy2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Well between this and the Petrapavlowsk Wg seems to have given up on reasonable ship design...

    • @Axel23410
      @Axel23410 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh boy you're not prepared for the stupidity that is Champagne

  • @suhaibibrahim
    @suhaibibrahim 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is by far one of the most amazing video on your channel

  • @xdtechniker2554
    @xdtechniker2554 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    13:13 poor little BRRRRRTTT-Boat, got killed by the big BRRRRRTTT-Boat

  • @gaiuscaesar3841
    @gaiuscaesar3841 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Yeah, im not drowning any more euros on this game, I regret dropping any in it now. Unless WG makes any major changes in their corporate culture this games is dead in water in 2 years.

    • @bakaweiner6956
      @bakaweiner6956 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I never going to spend any dime on it, watching how they hate the Germans and Japanese, plus how it reeks with Russian vodka...

    • @ainumahtar
      @ainumahtar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In all fairness that's what people have been saying in wot since its launch, the p2w has only gotten stronger and yet the game lives. WG has been ramping their greed up and up and up and people moan but they still throw out their entire wallets. Just look at the PR thing. How many people complained, and how many mindless whales sail around in them now? Yeah. I think the game will be juuust fine. And by Fine I of course mean increasingly p2w and somehow even more skewed to russian ships (and tanks)

    • @ainumahtar
      @ainumahtar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bakaweiner6956 the people who bought PR are not drug lords, they just shilled out the money for a mediocre ship

    • @bakaweiner6956
      @bakaweiner6956 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ainumahtar Yeah, I just quote out Yuro's comments on Pay to Rico...

  • @jacmac7117
    @jacmac7117 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    look how smooth that water is, love your work, cheers

  • @Ralph-yn3gr
    @Ralph-yn3gr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aegir be like *Tremble mortals, and despair. MEMES HAVE COME TO THIS GAME!!!!*

  • @trlacr1781
    @trlacr1781 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just call it what it is and call it a day. Wunderwaffe.

  • @nishanths538
    @nishanths538 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m thinking of a slightly different captain build, tell me what you think. The focus is still on the secondaries though. So first 14 points goes to Priority target, AR, BFT, AFT and manual secondaries, the normal secondary build. But knowing the Agir is a cruiser, instead of going superintendent and expert marksman, I’d go for concealment and preventive maintenance. What this does is it brings the concealment down to 11.9 as flamu said, which is 600m from Agir max secondaries range. This makes getting into good positions for secondaries very easy. This build is better for players that struggle to get to a position to use secondaries without losing hp but in the long run, having one less heal is a big set back especially with the amount of brawling you do with this ship. This build isn’t worth it for German BBS though.

  • @heshworksbetter2777
    @heshworksbetter2777 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    "It looks impressive until a Conqueror shoots at you once" I just frickin Died Flamu!!

  • @OnboardG1
    @OnboardG1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can make an amusing troll setup by sacrificing si and EM and taking concealment plus preventive. That lets you startle DDs that think they’re safe capping since you can close the 500m gap between your final concealment and your secondaries before they can react.

  • @cbh123456789
    @cbh123456789 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel that WG should give it a proper turtleback and an icebreaker and then leave the rest of the ship alone

  • @aaronreiche8246
    @aaronreiche8246 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Flamu: Oh I'm not running detonation flag? Wow I'm so lucky I haven't detonated!
    Me: Uh... yeah about that, as much as I hate to spoil the fun of the potato king himself the truth is well... you did! 21:05

  • @dukewang1738
    @dukewang1738 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    25:42
    Flamu: oh I'm not running detonation flag? wow! it's been so lucky I haven't been detonated.
    Reality: 21:08, detonated by a Salem AP salvo.

  • @Mithril_Antimarr
    @Mithril_Antimarr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    really hate that they nerfed the secondaries via the commander skill rework

  • @notalivehaha
    @notalivehaha 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 12:36 Flamu's voice cracked XD

  • @monarchy-5623
    @monarchy-5623 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    While you are rushing to use your secondaries, soviet heavy cruiser be like look at this moving sandbag

  • @magecraft2
    @magecraft2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the content hopefully it will keep me sane as I have to self isolate for 12 weeks :)

  • @JoeyDee86
    @JoeyDee86 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Secondary German cruisers is what I’ve always wanted. All German cruisers should have this GZ accuracy. Take my money.

    • @Igiveashitofaname
      @Igiveashitofaname 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And then you get HE spammed from 19km away... i would approve secondary focused ships in the game, but not in the current meta.

  • @tronic4456
    @tronic4456 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you make a Updated captain build Video for the IFHE nerf? I am really struggeling with where to put IFHE now

  • @artkarounos816
    @artkarounos816 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was really looking forward to getting this ship 😔

  • @26IME
    @26IME 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    whuuuut? german secs in OP mode?!!? That's so original and new! Who have thought this?!?!

  • @benjaminperry941
    @benjaminperry941 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lmao why can I already see Flambass doing one of his cancer divisions with this, something with smoke and a midway?

    • @MagnusVictor2015
      @MagnusVictor2015 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aegir + Graf Zeppelin + smoke DD (Benson, probably) = lulz

    • @benjaminperry941
      @benjaminperry941 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MagnusVictor2015 lol or the benham

  • @Nico_Dica
    @Nico_Dica 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wanted so much a secondaries german supercruiser that I posted that recommendation a year ago.. Quite happy that my wish to come true x'D

  • @wramsey2656
    @wramsey2656 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally a secondary build crusier LOL! Good video thx Flamu! Wow 2.1 Sec reload what a hoot!

  • @mikebrase5161
    @mikebrase5161 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn, was hoping we'd get a light cruiser secondary spec. Lutgens getting MB and Secondary hits would be Meme worthy.

  • @favorius
    @favorius 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is a memeship

  • @chelovechecheggg5185
    @chelovechecheggg5185 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if you exchange superintendent&turret traverse for concealment&prev. Maintenance? Then you get 11.9km conc with 11.5 secondary range, so as soon as something spots you, you can blap it with your secondaries. -1 heal tho, but still that might be cool

  • @alexlucas9535
    @alexlucas9535 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    flamu: oh so lucky I haven't detonated
    last clip: detonated when broadside to a salem
    trolololol

  • @helenaprimera516
    @helenaprimera516 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "i like this ship"
    Dont do this flolo, dont give us a hope. WG will nerf it, since only Smolensk can be hard to kill and shoot that fast.

  • @runeh3022
    @runeh3022 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    the game needs more line-breakers like this! :-)

  • @leadsled8961
    @leadsled8961 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The AZUMA is a new ship with the added armour with 9.2.

  • @JokaTHePatriot
    @JokaTHePatriot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wg is quickly becoming a clown fiesta that deliberately makes older German lines obsolete and new ships questionable.

  • @victorvondoom4869
    @victorvondoom4869 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When Flamu said a German ship is fun to play, WG will be like no fun allowed and proceed to nerf it more

  • @TheJuan72
    @TheJuan72 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know but those main guns seem very accurate.

  • @DaManBearPig
    @DaManBearPig 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    26:19
    No truer words have been said.

  • @chxyz1048
    @chxyz1048 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In my opinion a ship (BB/BC/CA) with bad main guns can never be a good ship.

  • @hatchetman2379
    @hatchetman2379 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dam it Flamu! Remember what happened to the Odin don't tell people there is a good German ship coming.... On a serious note this ship does look fun hope nothing changes, nice review.

  • @thebudgieadmiral5140
    @thebudgieadmiral5140 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn Flamu, you should be a car salesman, because you just made me want a German ship (I usually despise German ships, they're my least played nation I think), and not only a German ship, but a brawling cruiser of all things. I tried brawling in my Yoshino because a friend challenged me, I had some good games, even a Kraken, but mostly I got spammed to death. I am struggling to make my Alaska work. So this shouldn't interest me. But it does.

  • @シウ-o1x
    @シウ-o1x 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seems like too many people are rushing in with secondary Graf Zeppelin, WG finally decides to address this issue

  • @NProvince
    @NProvince 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really wish they would make the Kurfurst’s secondaries with that great dispersion.. the ship needs a buff.

  • @trololoev
    @trololoev 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Venezia is a secondary cruiser with 24 long range secondary gun.

  • @csmaster65
    @csmaster65 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm at tier 5 in this game and I hate it. I was a (stat-wise) good WoT player before, but arta drove me away, so now I'm playing WoWs to hate my life less. It's a lot to learn but flamu is best teacher.

  • @Landcervelatwurst
    @Landcervelatwurst 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The secondary cruiser i was waiting for.. nice!

  • @cedric1731
    @cedric1731 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So to sum it up: a bigger Graf Spee with secondaries.

  • @Italianstallion-v2f
    @Italianstallion-v2f 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Too bad it’s like 2 million fxp for it. At that point I’m no longer picking up these ships.

    • @Skringly
      @Skringly 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's tier 9, not 10.

  • @silviutompea5193
    @silviutompea5193 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Flamuu you did detonated, salem did that an the 3 game that you show us:)

  • @tramachi7027
    @tramachi7027 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Once again Germany gets more of a Meme-ship...Meanwhile stronk motha rasha gets super competent cruisers...atleast it seems better than the Krohnstadt. Oh well. It looks fun, the Secondarys seem to work pretty well :D Looking forward to it. Unless the Sekrit Dokumints tell us this ship had the biggest imaginable Citadel and guns that could only hit a target if all planets align, combined with every second blue moon :D
    Also I wonder when we will be able to have two secondary targets so one side of the ships Secondarys doesnt just sit there and doing nothing when they could shooting the enemy.
    Lock that even behind the Secondary-Skill the Captain has.

    • @hibikinyan7180
      @hibikinyan7180 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The skill is exactly what actually makes it impossible to fire on several targets. Its a tradeoff - if you want several targets dont take it.

  • @hoyanyellow810
    @hoyanyellow810 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So this ship has the largest secondary guns that can citadel other ships

  • @mishkata348
    @mishkata348 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Agir needs to be able to mount GK's legendary mod

  • @KaguyasBeat
    @KaguyasBeat 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Last clip is prime example of why the Main Batteries suck. They Detonate.

  • @ryankings6755
    @ryankings6755 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually really like the idea of a secondary monster. The mainguns seem to be a bit wonky but eh if there like the GK guns where. Every so often you get this godmode salvo what deletes thinga I'll be happy.

  • @tommeakin1732
    @tommeakin1732 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    World of warships: The game where a bunch of 128mm guns can be better anti-ship weapons than 305mm guns, and incredibly thin plating (even by ww2 tank standards) that probably wasn't even armour irl can cause battleship calibre shells to ricochet at very close range
    I can appreciate why they made some of the core design decisions that they did and why they didn't want the game to be more realistic, but damn, this game is like a circus lol

  • @halolime117
    @halolime117 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is what ive been waiting for, a secondary km cruiser. But ofc it will be nerfed to death soon :)

  • @phillycheesesteak4607
    @phillycheesesteak4607 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the Salem detonated you😂

  • @Firefocus-fz2we
    @Firefocus-fz2we 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    25:44 Well, last moment of the last battle says different

  • @CarlosdCover
    @CarlosdCover 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Food for ships that spams in the flanks like Azuma... but has good looking... so purchase~

  • @KaijuAlert
    @KaijuAlert 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't get over how shit this calm water mod looks.

  • @radiationpony8449
    @radiationpony8449 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've surprised more than one ship with a secondary build on my Cleveland, lots of 5inch guns on it

  • @ZezkuGC
    @ZezkuGC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    11.5km secondary build range, that's .1 less than Kurfust, i may want to try and get this at one point

    • @fhamre
      @fhamre 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @AKUJIRULE So what is the max secondary range you can achieve?

  • @Conflict125
    @Conflict125 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm not interested in T9, but can't wait for T10 version like they always do with supercruisers, but God forbid make it obtainable like Puerto Rico, casue I will surely pass

    • @Poctyk
      @Poctyk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      305 German 1/4 pen cruiser might be *gasp* actually useful vs Kremlin 60mm.
      So you aren't going to see it

    • @ainumahtar
      @ainumahtar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha firespammer I read your first line and already formed the second line in my head. 100% agreed. They are not going to add a hard counter to the russian winbotes. Just see what happened when people started countering Balansgrad with henris: henri got gutted to hell. Not happening.

    • @Squantanamo
      @Squantanamo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Poctyk t9 has better economy game than t10 but that's about it.

  • @Tasukete_22
    @Tasukete_22 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Flamu you did detonate in last clip :)

  • @sliceofcheese8360
    @sliceofcheese8360 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Commander rework killed this thing so hard

  • @rodneyaudley2980
    @rodneyaudley2980 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonder if we will see a T10 version?

  • @FailureToReport
    @FailureToReport 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    "A Secondary Cruiser!? That Works??"
    I don't believe you. Especially by the time it makes it to live....

    • @ainumahtar
      @ainumahtar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It also doesnt work if anyone with HE shells comes within fire range of it, which is at least 50% of everyone in every game a t9 will see. Even most DD will be able to farm it considering it effectively has 11.5km range...

  • @MrHydenSeek
    @MrHydenSeek 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So the russian ships should delete it easily without much chance of getting damage in the process.

    • @ainumahtar
      @ainumahtar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly right.

    • @monarchy-5623
      @monarchy-5623 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eating all the soviet CA no-bounce heavy pen damage

  • @theenhancer
    @theenhancer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    WG Players: What if we were to use 100% of our secondaries?
    WG: ............................
    *Ägir has entered the chat*

    • @theenhancer
      @theenhancer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @AKUJIRULE WG Balans: "I am inevitable."

  • @dennylui
    @dennylui 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why the water looks so strange? It’s just like sailing on the oil and I never seen this before.

  • @maximummeme1624
    @maximummeme1624 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is the water so beautiful in your vids.... I want to:D

  • @Warmaker01
    @Warmaker01 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely a weird combination of characteristics