POE Heist Drop Rates: 29287 Curios, Simplex Amulet and Focused Amulet Jackpot Drops - Path of Exile

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  • @Termy93
    @Termy93 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    Going so far as to dim the excel sheets. What content creator understands their audience as well as Sirgog? Nobody, that's who!
    As always, we appreciate your work communicating the more interesting side of PoE.

  • @TheOne23_
    @TheOne23_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Damn those experimental bases are rare as hell

    • @sirgog
      @sirgog  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Yeah. It's a rule of thumb though that even extremely good items are worthless unless they are very very rare. Case in point, Massive Thread of Hope this league.
      GGG wanted these items to be chase, and they achieved it.

    • @TheOne23_
      @TheOne23_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@sirgog headhunter this league is a prime example of this

    • @BoredFilthyPig
      @BoredFilthyPig 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes in SSF it’s a nightmare if it’s a worthwhile upgrade.

    • @SoulxWeaver
      @SoulxWeaver 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@sirgogthe difference between Helical and cogwork is fuckin crazy
      The better experiment bases are too rare imo

    • @KhronicD
      @KhronicD 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SoulxWeaver The thing is, you're talking about a literal best in slot item. Yes you still have to craft it, but that can be reset infinitely up until a point. An item that is best in slot for a build should be rare as hell.

  • @Hooga89
    @Hooga89 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    It's drop rates like this that is the primary reason I want SSF to be a void league with its own unique drop rates. I really love SSF, but the gear progression is so ridiculous compared to trade that it puts me off from playing it. 2 months of daily heisting to get 1 good base is just ridiculous RNG even for an ARPG.

    • @pitonmsu
      @pitonmsu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Hooga89 it's always 2 bases though, as you can split it

    • @divinityai
      @divinityai 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      good base? You don't need 99% of time in ssf.... well, I mean I play SSF differently. There's hardcore audience like Manni, Legi etc who basically 24/7 SSF playing like trade league. and people copy him, from starting build, to atlas, to all way to ubers... Nothing wrong with that cause it saves much time for theorycraft and goals in ssf as it is sandbox basically... And there's second way - your imagination. You can play any build you want. I always start from new skill, have fun, use items, craft, etc. But rarely farm 0.5% uber drop items etc cause it too much grind for what? For min-maxing? I honestly don't enjoy min-maxing in ssf. I enjoy trying new builds from 0 to 4 voidstones, and few days after. That's all. To be honest, t17 is what I dislike in current ssf, because you either play min-maxed meta build or suck balls. If you play as "achiever", 40/40, only the best item, if it has one t2 it's trash, well... hope you don't as perfectionist in real life at least xD

    • @chedalot
      @chedalot 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Gonna jinx myself but don't really care, last few leagues can remember coming across replica farruls fur from barely doing less than 50 blueprints each time around.

  • @raz0rh00f
    @raz0rh00f 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    @sirgog Thanks again for your contributions and research! Also thank you for considering those with epilepsy or other seizure enduring conditions. I recommend using dark mode to avoid having to warn the users, having to edit in post, and flash banging yourself. Cheers! 🤘

    • @sirgog
      @sirgog  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That was dark mode. TBH I hate Chrome's dark mode, which is still in beta. All spreadsheets seem bad with dark mode options.

    • @donotneedahandle
      @donotneedahandle หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sirgog try dark reader extension, it's super handy, it even works for pdf's.

  • @skulver
    @skulver 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Truly amazing work. Thanks for this, heist is one of the things I just started running and I've been spending so much time trying to figure out what is or isn't worth getting. Just having that all in a tier list is incredibly valuable!

  • @KhronicD
    @KhronicD 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just to put in my 2 cents being a Heist enjoyer about the last point. I can say that in my experience, rarity of the bp and the mods on it really do seem to only affect the drops from the mobs and the small chests. They have no noticeable affect on the reward room (icon) chests, or the curios. This was especially noticeable with the change last league to the reward room chest drops. Rare bps with tons of quant/rarity from the mods did not drop any more or rarer loot. You would think getting big quant boosts would at least make 1 more stacked deck or two uniques drop from a reward room, but it didn't. I have not tested this extensively, this is just my experience.

  • @e56hdyhdfgh
    @e56hdyhdfgh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Have been casually running BPs in SSF standard for the last couple weeks. New reward structure is a lot less exciting than the old, imo. So many replicas I have not seen yet. A lot of worthless loot (and duplicates) in curios too, I often don't even take anything and just walk out.

    • @sirgog
      @sirgog  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I much prefer this to the old system; there's basically always something. Chaos orbs, divine orbs, tailoring orbs and tempering orbs are always of use & they just show up a lot.

    • @silvercyborg
      @silvercyborg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yeah. I'm a true blue heist fan and he can get tedious running them at times. I would just be very happy if duplicates were eliminated, especially since they can now be replaced with currency or other low value rewards.

    • @KhronicD
      @KhronicD 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@silvercyborg I agree on the duplicate thing. You should never have two curios with the same reward in them. That's just lazy on GGGs part, imo.

  • @darrellsongy309
    @darrellsongy309 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for your time and imput its always appreciated

  • @Grisha123
    @Grisha123 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As a former heist runner I can say this was the most dissapointing league for me. They shadow nerfed stacked deck drops, deleted entirely heist compasses and you also loot a lot less from these new blueprints. Maybe some of this was changed but I was over this league on day 3

    • @sirgog
      @sirgog  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The deck drops needed the nerf - div card chests are STILL better than any others after the ~40% nerf. Blueprints giving >100 decks was bad, it made a lot of other content worse.
      Heist compasses were a loss.
      The 3.23 'mixed loot' blueprint changes were a buff though. Currency wasn't good on its own, but having it mixed in makes getting '5 dud curio' wings really, really rare now.

  • @ChrisWhiton
    @ChrisWhiton 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Even as a regular heist runner this data is amazingly interesting. In affliction league I found TWO simplex amulets in my first 50 blueprints. Unfortunately for me it was early in the league and they hadn't hit peak value yet. To think that there was only one found in 30,000 display cases (6000ish blueprints) means that my luck was simply legendary.
    It tracks though, because I spent the rest of the league chasing the third simplex which of course never happened...

  • @JohnBaxter-j2x
    @JohnBaxter-j2x 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for dimming the flashbang! Oh, and the vid was good too :P

  • @xtreme_poe6451
    @xtreme_poe6451 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I ran a lot of Heist rough calc was 1500d over less than 1000 wings. Most of the time was farming the contracts coins etc (323% ms raider)

    • @linchihchieh8806
      @linchihchieh8806 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How do you solve the MTX issue at the Harbour?
      It becomes very laggy when there are many people.😔

    • @sirgog
      @sirgog  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My plan if I heist seriously in future is to just buy 1-wing prints in bulk. On the MTX issues - they are bad. No real getting around it.

    • @lechidanh805
      @lechidanh805 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My game even crashed once because of that, lol

    • @KhronicD
      @KhronicD 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@linchihchieh8806 You don't. If it's too laggy, you zone out and back in and hope you get put in a different instance. Just the way it is.

  • @Impavidor
    @Impavidor 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    yep knowing if quality and quantity matter would not only be useful currency wise but also time wise

  • @anathema1828
    @anathema1828 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yooooooo thanks for posting!

  • @chrisditmi7119
    @chrisditmi7119 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    nice infos gg

    • @sirgog
      @sirgog  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thanks mate

  • @danalexandru4
    @danalexandru4 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love your videos man , ty

  • @xTobsecretx
    @xTobsecretx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wasn't there some talk about ilvl potentially being the explanation for the differing results between the single wing and 4wing heists?

  • @bred9526
    @bred9526 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I played ssf this league, went heisting for an oscillating scepter.
    I’ll never play one contract ever again…soo tedious

  • @ChuckNorrisEmoQc
    @ChuckNorrisEmoQc 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sirgog, it seem's only you might have the answer, is the simplex amy only drop in Lab and Library blueprint or is it change in 3.25 plz ?Because there's is no way to farm specific loot in heist anymore, i dont find a answer anywhere, ty for all you quality content you bring to the community, may yout Vaal orb bring some interresting result ;)

  • @yizhizhu5154
    @yizhizhu5154 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The enchant gives me memory callback of another guy and I competing for multimod enchant karui sceptre and only in the end we got another one on the entire market.

  • @DharokHardOn
    @DharokHardOn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I could be misremembering this but I am sure a content creator got a mirror in a curio near the start of the Heist league and then died to a trap on the way out. Guessing it could've been removed or it wasn't from a curio too.

  • @CARDIFFGAMING
    @CARDIFFGAMING 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Спасибо за отличный контент! С любовью от ru сообщества

  • @everseenTV
    @everseenTV 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Although this data is helpful, I'm still unconvinced that it's conclusive to being deterministic. Still feels like such a damn lottery. I'm also less inclined to reference the data when multiple people were contributing to it since there's a variance between this person is lucky or unlucky. I did 1500 wings this league and found 2 simplex, 2 helical, 1 astrolabe and only 1 Alberons which was the item I was hunting for. In this case I am one of the ones who are "lucky" if you consider the simplex drops.... really hate that alberons felt more rare for me than the experimental bases....

  • @renex1964
    @renex1964 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I used to run a lot of heist, aside from other mechanics, because it was really worth running it (alternative gems being the main target). However, since the changes introduced in 3.23 I quit running heist because I think that it became worthless when doing it casually, unless you run it as your only PoE mechanic. It is a shame because I had a lot of fun running heist (and looting alternative gems in a more or less consistent way), now I do not like the RNG involved, which makes worthless for a casual heist runner. Your spreadsheet confirms my point. Nice video bro !!!!

    • @sirgog
      @sirgog  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Disagree - with the gems, it was REALLY slow to heist unless you knew all the prices. Took ages to check each wing 'do I take this gem or that one', 'is that the good or the bad Defiance Banner' and pricecheck tools were useless as they'd get ruined by bad faith listings.
      If you knew all the top gems it was crazy lucrative, but that was an 'I only Heist' thing. Plus, gem prints were expensive in bulk.
      Now you can just go in and know every wing (if there's no jackpot) is about 1 in 7 to have a Divine Orb or equal value currency (Tempering/Tailoring). If that's not there and there's no jackpot, you check the rares. If there's no good ones, you grab a consolation prize currency stack like 18 chaos and go.

    • @renex1964
      @renex1964 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sirgog Oh yes, I see your point, but I was very aware of the value of most alternative gems so I did tons of currency with them. The new heist does not fit my game style now so I don do it anymore.

  • @clockworkmenagerie
    @clockworkmenagerie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Do you know if further data collection on this is planned for next league? Kind of tempted to contribute, if so.

    • @sirgog
      @sirgog  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not sure. There's a Harbinger project very slowly going at the moment

  • @GE_Photon_Lord
    @GE_Photon_Lord 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I did a bit of heist this league and I dropped a sacred orb, couple divs and a magmatic shield in my first 5 blueprints. I did it for the challenge, but oh boy, did I get baited to play heist for real next league 😂

  • @anuj61111
    @anuj61111 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    And what do you mean by pulled out of curios? Did they record the contents of all 5 display cases?

    • @sirgog
      @sirgog  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yep, all 5 recorded

  • @sousukeaizen1299
    @sousukeaizen1299 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i once got 5 divine orb out of 1 curio in like 150~ curios..how its happen?..since i mostly see only 1 divine in like 10 of curios

  • @kostav4448
    @kostav4448 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    replica paradoxica can be used to target unveil syndicate member mods. you can even sort after them on trade. i also used the weapon once on a niche shield based skill (sst of shattering) because it can provide quite alot of useful global stats for a few chaos when unveiled correctly. main reason why i wanted to use it was hits cant be evaded, but this mod unfortuantly is local and therefore useless for sst :(

  • @dargorwarrior
    @dargorwarrior 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im curious for the results

  • @Natural_Don
    @Natural_Don 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thanks king

  • @divinityai
    @divinityai 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't believe atziri's acuity is t2. You get 8 of them, the rarest t2, but could be lucky and it's in line in other t1. I found multiple t1 in few days but never acuity... maybe that's me unlucky but I think i'm right it's t1

  • @leoluo9495
    @leoluo9495 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thanks for the dimming

  • @yizhizhu5154
    @yizhizhu5154 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Now lets hope they dont change it next league!

  • @alewis514
    @alewis514 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Heist has been neglected in 3.24 where it didn't get any new scarabs and not even atlas tree buffs to %chance nodes like ALL other mechanis did. We actually lost heist contracts with implicit modifiers such as 3 additional reveals or 200% more coinage for heist target. Also the damn rogue harbor is a clown fiesta with all these MTX that need to load EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU COMPLETE A CONTRACT OR BP. And you surely need to complete a lot of them if you take heist seriously as an endgame farming mechanic.
    Hopefully 3.25 gives heist some much needed love. Accessing the content from HO would be enough tbh. It's a mechanic with quite a bit of micromanagement that's off-putting. It doesn't have to be even more off-putting with 30-second loading times due to massive MTX shitshow in there.

  • @kitso952
    @kitso952 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Totally unrelated question, I've always wondered what's the black thing you wear on top of your blue tshirt/shirt( the one with fractal design) ?

    • @tonnirotta
      @tonnirotta 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Looks to me like it's a bathrobe/evening gown, don't know where to find with such a cool design tho

    • @sirgog
      @sirgog  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The jacket that's black with fire images? It's just a really really warm cloak because Melbourne is having a cold snap at the moment.

  • @aram_aziz
    @aram_aziz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can we get a link to the discord love to join these data gathering groups

    • @sirgog
      @sirgog  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not my beast to invite to, but have a look on poewiki for references to the Prohibited Library discord, won't be hard to find

  • @MatrixLike33
    @MatrixLike33 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    good stuff

  • @IcaroOito
    @IcaroOito 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Needs a buff.
    A mercy system.

  • @anuj61111
    @anuj61111 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is meant by multi mod enchant? you mean 2 enchants on an item? like - magnitude of explicit + only red sockets?

    • @TheOne23_
      @TheOne23_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Pretty sure he means an enchant that allows for an extra crafted mod

    • @anuj61111
      @anuj61111 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheOne23_ :O

    • @sirgog
      @sirgog  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, +1 max crafted mod. This is INCREDIBLY strong for metamod crafting. Not so much in this league but in general it gives much more control over 'prefixes cannot change, cannot roll attack mods then Harvest reforge' crafting.

  • @Waggabagaboo
    @Waggabagaboo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like I got way luckier than this chart. Damn.

  • @saunorine
    @saunorine 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i really think they should just make ssf have different droprates and make it so you can't merge to regular leagues. Then if you want ssf and merge later in the league just play regular trade without trading.

    • @sirgog
      @sirgog  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      100% against that. SSF is a hard mode.
      Hardcore doesn't have higher XP or drop rates than the base game. It's there for people who WANT extra challenge. SSF is the same.

  • @Saskobest
    @Saskobest 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is Chaos to Divine trinket t0 drop(rarer than simplex and replica headhunter)?

    • @KhronicD
      @KhronicD 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My guess would be yes. I generally run tons of heist every league, especially towards the end of a league when I'm bored of the game. I've run thousands of bps and never seen a chaos to divine trinket. Obviously I've not done any scientific research with it, but my personal experience says it's probably that rare.

  • @SpecShadow
    @SpecShadow 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    still sa- ah, to heck with this...

    • @sirgog
      @sirgog  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      most certainly, this exile is not

  • @recoil1592
    @recoil1592 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Heist docLeave. Oh wait.

  • @n8doggy733
    @n8doggy733 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    my xbox started "upgrading" Path if Exile, not update but upgrade?? any ideas?

    • @sirgog
      @sirgog  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Probably just the last patch

    • @n8doggy733
      @n8doggy733 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sirgog ah, thanks mate

  • @proxis9980
    @proxis9980 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    cant wait for them to actualy FIX SSF...just shift the tiert one up......espeicaly for heist stuff that is on avearge 4digits runs is jsut STUPID.......

    • @sirgog
      @sirgog  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      GGG made a promise when introducing SSF to never do that. Same as they've promised never to give bonus XP or loot in Hardcore. Those rulesets are hard modes designed exclusively for people who want the game to be more punishing.

    • @proxis9980
      @proxis9980 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sirgog nonono dont be sure about that :) you can rewatch the intervies with mark aroudn the time of lastepoch and last leagues anoucnments. there are several rulesets that never ment to be broken but ARE now. Pickuprange for items is one of them. we got some new wind in the sails so to speak ;)
      (and ofcourse changing drop rates would require them to be locked i.e not migratable anymore)
      alternativly we could give an overall drop boost to content that is "selffarmed" regardless of game mode...i.e. blueprints that you got dropped have better rarity for you, same with invitations and all the other stuff regardles of leage mode type....that woun'd even damage that "promise" and still achieve roughtly the same goal and encourages exploring more of the game your self.....currently tradeleague play is pretty much hardlocked into your nische becuase there is zero incentive to "do somethign else" inf act you are actualy even punished for it with costs....so the optimal play is farm money to buy stuff instead of farming "stuff" and that just needs to change IMO...
      lastly there needs to be something todo with a mirror in SSF :D its a hundred % worthless ....ok maybe only 99%

  • @kaleidoughscope
    @kaleidoughscope 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Greybang warning next time, jeez!

  • @colon_sausage
    @colon_sausage 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🍺

  • @morfea123
    @morfea123 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    4 month leagues suck!

    • @sirgog
      @sirgog  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agree, am over this one

    • @MrKlarthums
      @MrKlarthums 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I enjoy good 4 month leagues, but it's extremely long if it's a skip league like Necropolis was for me. I sometimes decide to play for 2 days in Standard instead.

    • @morfea123
      @morfea123 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      agreed. i wish they had special event in the end if they see it's FUBAR league.

  • @V47U
    @V47U 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    First!

    • @sirgog
      @sirgog  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      second! wait...

  • @mericgencturk
    @mericgencturk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have come here to chew bubble gum and debunk heist myths. And I'm out of bubble gum.
    1- Revealing wings, increased rarity/quant on blueprint does absolutely nothing for the end rewards (curio display rewards)
    2- Rarity and quant on blueprint/contract & rogue gear does affect both small chests and big chests. But quantity does not affect the stacks themselves. i.e say you have 100% quantity: this does not increase the stack size of stacked decks for example. you will always get a stack of 2 or 4 if it duplicates. But quantity will affect the number of items that comes out of big chests. You will get divination related scarabs more often alongside the stacked decks, for instance, if you have high quantity. Rarirty also affects both big and small chests. Currency chests for instance will drop more valuable currencies and you will see an increase in chaos orbs and vaal orbs and the stack sizes will increase because of RARITY!
    Useful tips:
    1) Niles is actually way faster than gianna in deception job and does not bug like that annoying bich gianna. So always use a +1 job with niles and use him as your deception guy in BLUEPRINTS. The speed difference is huge. While gianna has a long animation for opening doors ( running in front of the door, changing clothes and fucking bugging and ruining your run etc) niles instantly mindcontrols the guy behind the door.
    2) Vinderi's demolition job speed is more dependent on movespeed than job speed mod. So always make sure you have 15% movement speed mod on your cloaks for all of your rogues. You can thank me later.
    I have many more but I doubt that your instagram reels induced ADHD attention spans could handle all this text. P.S I am the best heister.

    • @yohanreyes1775
      @yohanreyes1775 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sources: ''trust me bro''

    • @sithgod999
      @sithgod999 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're the most annoying person ever is what you are.