Great list mate. For me 1. LX A9X hatch 2. VL SS Walkinshaw Group A 3. VK SS Group A 4. VN SS Group A 5. VH SS Group 3 HK HG HT were too slow at the time XU1 was lucky enough to get the perfect storm with the perfect driver to win a "Tom and Jerry" bathurst. Very overrated in my opinion. If there was ever a 6 cylinder going to be worth mentioning, it would have to be a VL Turbo 5 speed in any form. Even today they are over engineered.
Bought a new VL Group A Walky back in 89 and sadly only had it for a year. Now have near new 2017 VF SS-V Redline Supercharged and had a few nice Holdens in between. Love Holdens and wish we could still have them in Australia. With the developement Holden was doing, it would be interesting to see what they would have now. Ahead of their time imho.
Not many 5.6Ls made by HDT, but yes, it was an option, and I have one. The HDT blue was Holden’s regular VL colour called blue ice - not Panorama silver. Panorama silver lived on in the VN as azure (same formula, same code, different name)
You'd think LJ GTR XU-1 would rate. The only normally aspirated 6Cyl ever to win Bathurst. My '73 gearing broke Nat'l speed limit in 1st (115km/hr @7200rpm, LSD3.08:1ratio)!
Bathurst diff ratio? lol,I came close to buying an A9X in 1995,but I didn't have a garage,so got a VK BT1,still have it today,I massaged the 304 to 355 and loving it
I thought they made 22 Directors, When I was 20 I there was 1 for sale for $22K, One car I regret not buying was a VL Calais wagon with a turbo 6 for $10k.
G'day mate, do you have any articles or sources that point to the 20 builds? I have looked everywhere and could only find what I referenced in the video.
@@ClunieGarage no sources, that number was in a magazine back in 1995 so could be wrong but the car for sale said 1 of 22 at the time as well. Every source online says 9 to 12
@@JimBob-qh8gl yep that's what I thought. Maybe they planned the original run for 22 and pulled back. A bit like the original plans for the W427 and Monaro HRT 427
You 4.9 litre 308 engine. Sorry, yes 4.9 was reworked from the 5.0l. The 4.9l is the 304. This size was developed so Holden could lose 500kg of weight. This was to compete with the turbo engine race cars. ❤😂🎉😊
I remember the Director/Walkinshaw commodores when new and even back than always thought that they looked overdressed. A bit like a fat opera singer past her age. The VL had a slick shape as standard and only needed a bit of finessing to really stand out in my opinion. For my bucket list a two door HQ Monaro with a 502, 5-speed and quick change rear would suit me fine Although an EH with a 327 with 3x2's, M21 and Halibrand Quick Change as my daily driver
The real special modification that the VL Director was to have was independent rear suspension. That is what the falling out between Peter Brock and Holden was all about and not the Polarizer.
@@tomnewham1269 oh wow, I didn't know that. I have all the press articles and videos including from Mike Raymond that blame the fallout on the Polarizer.
Yep hard to believe hey? HSV had to detune it for warranty and ADR requirements from all accounts. Many built LS engines with aftermarket superchargers pump out more at the hubs or tyres than the GTSR-W1 but of course they don't have production law suits or red tape hanging over them. What are your plans for the VF? Track of Drag? Sounds like a serious bit of kit 🤠
I mean there’s one bloke who did nothing but change to a smaller pulley and throw bigger injectors and a tune on and it made something around 470kw at the wheel
Yeah and a 1978 460ci (7.5 litre) Ford Big Block made 120 kw from the factory , still smoked the rollers on the chassis dyno , in fact they could not strap it down enough to stop it spinning . That's Torque, the real measure of power , HP / KW is a made up number and doesn't really measure an engine , a D6 Dozer rated at 100 HP and a Kawasaki ZZR 600 again 100hp not for a minute would you call them equal in power.
@@DylanFoster87 G'day mate, all depends on your objectives and the price. 28kms for a rare specimen like the VT clubby sounds like a time warp. They have cool bucket seats and are a piece of HSV history. Without seeing it in person, sounds very intriguing 😀
@@GS-kh5se G'day mate, some of the early VTs got the 5L GM engine but I am pretty sure the clubby got the LS1. I think it was 220kw though but could be wrong.
@@angry9901na na 63 got my father's WH Grange been in the family since new , a purist would not like it , built motor 6 speed Magnum F, supercharged etc etc 453kw 993nm. Daily drive destroy most vehicles on the road true tourer
I can remember seeing footage of two ford coupes racing side by side over the finish line that year! Of course I was only 1 year old at the time so TH-cam provides the memories!!
I really like the VL models but I’m not a fan of the awful looking Walkinshaw one with its cheap looking tacked on body kit! Looks like a JDM knock off. My friend years ago had a VL Calais in which I admired. I believe it was the awesome Nissan engine in it. Can’t quite remember.
WTAF.. This should be called TOP 5 HSVs of all time, HSV use Holden platforms, but we're not owned by Holden they were totally separate and are still in business. Only car on your list that is 100% Holden is the A9X.
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The VL Director makes the VL Walkinshaw look normal
@@arrbek2359 it certainly has some interesting shapes to it hey? Personally not a fan of the bodykit around rear wheel arch!
Great list mate.
For me
1. LX A9X hatch
2. VL SS Walkinshaw Group A
3. VK SS Group A
4. VN SS Group A
5. VH SS Group 3
HK HG HT were too slow at the time
XU1 was lucky enough to get the perfect storm with the perfect driver to win a "Tom and Jerry" bathurst. Very overrated in my opinion. If there was ever a 6 cylinder going to be worth mentioning, it would have to be a VL Turbo 5 speed in any form. Even today they are over engineered.
@@user-qg3jr1jw3t amazing choices there. Love the group a/3 selections!!!
Bought a new VL Group A Walky back in 89 and sadly only had it for a year. Now have near new 2017 VF SS-V Redline Supercharged and had a few nice Holdens in between. Love Holdens and wish we could still have them in Australia. With the developement Holden was doing, it would be interesting to see what they would have now. Ahead of their time imho.
Thanks for sharing!
A good list Me
5-any Sandman
4-Torana XU1
3-VL Calais turbo
2-VH Commodore SLE 4.2 lit
1-WB Statesman Caprice 5 lit
Some classics in that list mate.
1984 HDT WB Statesman Magnum. Look that one up.
Not many 5.6Ls made by HDT, but yes, it was an option, and I have one.
The HDT blue was Holden’s regular VL colour called blue ice - not Panorama silver.
Panorama silver lived on in the VN as azure (same formula, same code, different name)
@@commodorenut thanks for clarifying mate. Your 5.6L is a rare beast!
i love the a9x torana with the slr 5000 bodykit
Our top choice too!
Great cars mate! My list for what its worth
5. W427
4. LJ GTR XU1
3. V.K Group A Blue Meanie
2. HK 327 GTS Monaro
1. LX SS A9X
You'd think LJ GTR XU-1 would rate. The only normally aspirated 6Cyl ever to win Bathurst. My '73 gearing broke Nat'l speed limit in 1st (115km/hr @7200rpm, LSD3.08:1ratio)!
Love your top pick, truly amazing car 👍
Thanks! 👍
Saw a Monaro today, HK. Just wow.
It's a great debate, one thing for sure... NSW 🔵 to win
@@Rotors-LS yep and we did!!!
I reckon the four Commodores you picked should been, the LC Torana XU-1, HX LE Coupe, HT/HG GTS 350 Monaro and EH S4 instead.
Good choices there mate.
@@ClunieGarage Thank you.
My hq gets 350 is going through a full factory rebuild.
Aarh, days gone by,
The A9X, hatch with a L31 and a 2.6 to 1 diff ratio would almost nudge 100km/h in first gear.
Remember that ?
@@nickl2548 you betcha! I remember the diff ratios of the toranas. Special times and thanks for watching mate.
Bathurst diff ratio? lol,I came close to buying an A9X in 1995,but I didn't have a garage,so got a VK BT1,still have it today,I massaged the 304 to 355 and loving it
I'd choose the same cars except i'd swap the monaro for a vx gts 300 Callaway c4b.
Nice one, I remember the Callaway! I think FullBoost did a video on one recently. Thanks for watching!
Vk gpA
A9x
Hk gts
VL Walkinshaw
Hx sedan dragways lowered bench seat 202 3tree 😂
Nice list!! Love the VK group A! Thanks for watching.
I thought they made 22 Directors, When I was 20 I there was 1 for sale for $22K, One car I regret not buying was a VL Calais wagon with a turbo 6 for $10k.
G'day mate, do you have any articles or sources that point to the 20 builds? I have looked everywhere and could only find what I referenced in the video.
@@ClunieGarage no sources, that number was in a magazine back in 1995 so could be wrong but the car for sale said 1 of 22 at the time as well. Every source online says 9 to 12
@@JimBob-qh8gl yep that's what I thought. Maybe they planned the original run for 22 and pulled back. A bit like the original plans for the W427 and Monaro HRT 427
You 4.9 litre 308 engine. Sorry, yes 4.9 was reworked from the 5.0l. The 4.9l is the 304.
This size was developed so Holden could lose 500kg of weight. This was to compete with the turbo engine race cars. ❤😂🎉😊
Pickle me grandmother where's the "KINGSWOOD". After all ( as far as I know) it is the only car in the world to get a TV show named after it🤔😁.
Maybe next top 5 video
I remember the Director/Walkinshaw commodores when new and even back than always thought that they looked overdressed.
A bit like a fat opera singer past her age. The VL had a slick shape as standard and only needed a bit of finessing to really stand out in my opinion.
For my bucket list a two door HQ Monaro with a 502, 5-speed and quick change rear would suit me fine Although an EH with a 327 with 3x2's, M21 and Halibrand Quick Change as my daily driver
The IRS in the Director was sourced from the Opel Commodore coupe counterpart which we never got in Australia
The IRS was another big problem for GM-H
My Holden dealer said I need a new Polariser.
Must be frustrating to be in that situation…as you know “makes a shithouse car good.😚👌
The real special modification that the VL Director was to have was independent rear suspension. That is what the falling out between Peter Brock and Holden was all about and not the Polarizer.
@@tomnewham1269 oh wow, I didn't know that. I have all the press articles and videos including from Mike Raymond that blame the fallout on the Polarizer.
Ummmm interesting I worked with gm for 36 years and never heard anything about that ?
A9X ftw!❤
Interesting perspectives, some hilarious comment’s 😂
I know, right?
Good bucket list
We agree!
HZ Sandman… how did that not get a mention?
And what about a LC Torana GTR?
Maybe in a top 10 video!
@@shanechandler3261it didn’t stop you throwing the car around but it was a bit strange at first.
VL walkinshaw
@@abrahamschmidt6830 nice choice mate. Will make a top 10 video. Love the intake manifold and bodykit of the walky! Thanks for watching.
GTR W1 is only 474kw? Ripoff! My VF2 LS2 Redline with a Harrop 2300 FDFI Cam has 489Kw at the rear wheels! Cost a lot less too!
Yep hard to believe hey? HSV had to detune it for warranty and ADR requirements from all accounts. Many built LS engines with aftermarket superchargers pump out more at the hubs or tyres than the GTSR-W1 but of course they don't have production law suits or red tape hanging over them. What are your plans for the VF? Track of Drag? Sounds like a serious bit of kit 🤠
The GTSR W1 is more than just a power figure.
LS9, Supashock suspension, different diff, gear box, carbon fibre otr, different interior etc
@@GS-kh5se absolutely it's the complete package. Such a special car hence it's place on the list.
I mean there’s one bloke who did nothing but change to a smaller pulley and throw bigger injectors and a tune on and it made something around 470kw at the wheel
Yeah and a 1978 460ci (7.5 litre) Ford Big Block made 120 kw from the factory , still smoked the rollers on the chassis dyno , in fact they could not strap it down enough to stop it spinning . That's Torque, the real measure of power , HP / KW is a made up number and doesn't really measure an engine , a D6 Dozer rated at 100 HP and a Kawasaki ZZR 600 again 100hp not for a minute would you call them equal in power.
How about the VL IRS. There was at least 1 that Brocky owned that option was almost as much as the car itself.
Excellent LIst ✌👍👌
Thanks 😁
Hi mate
I’m looking at a 2000 V8 VT club sport for sale atm, only 28k on the clock, worth it or maybe a better option? Thanks :)
@@DylanFoster87 G'day mate, all depends on your objectives and the price. 28kms for a rare specimen like the VT clubby sounds like a time warp. They have cool bucket seats and are a piece of HSV history. Without seeing it in person, sounds very intriguing 😀
Are the 2000 clubbies Holden 195kw 5.0 litre or 250kw LS1 V8 engine?
@@GS-kh5se 5.7L with 250kw yep 👍
@@GS-kh5se G'day mate, some of the early VTs got the 5L GM engine but I am pretty sure the clubby got the LS1. I think it was 220kw though but could be wrong.
5: LJ XU1
4: SLR 5000
3: VL
2: W1
1: WH Grange
Good list mate! The SLR would have also made my list if I could have 10 picks!
WH Grange, brave choice for a bloke under 60 years.
@@angry9901na na 63 got my father's WH Grange been in the family since new , a purist would not like it , built motor 6 speed Magnum F, supercharged etc etc
453kw 993nm. Daily drive destroy most vehicles on the road true tourer
A9x , vk group 3 blue meanie , slr5000, vn group A , Holden efijy
What happened to the Torana at Bathurst in 1977?
I can remember seeing footage of two ford coupes racing side by side over the finish line that year! Of course I was only 1 year old at the time so TH-cam provides the memories!!
What happened to the Ford's in 1978?
@@user-mn3eb1zl6cthey got beaten by Phillip Morris.
No they lost to a better car and driver.
Torana A9X 2 door in red
Monaro 427C in red
HDT Commodore VC in red
HSV VL Group A
HSV Senator Mark Skaife edition
Nice choices there!!
HQ GTS 350
need the HK GTS 350
Good choice for our upcoming video!
HK GTS 327 the 350 came out on the HT
Holdens attract bogans like flies are attracted to a manure truck.
Send me the link to your TH-cam channel so I can direct the manure truck to your place.
I really like the VL models but I’m not a fan of the awful looking Walkinshaw one with its cheap looking tacked on body kit!
Looks like a JDM knock off.
My friend years ago had a VL Calais in which I admired. I believe it was the awesome Nissan engine in it. Can’t quite remember.
XU2
Was an xu2 a v8 LJ or an v8 LH ?
Maybe go back and edit the spelling of director…🤣🤣🤣
@@stephensvoboda9323 good pick up!!!!
I used to be a Holden man through and through until I tried a Nissan R34 and a Subaru WRX STI come to the conclusion Holden's a crap
Shut up dickhead
Stop looking at your teleprompter.....
That's my big screen with my script making sure I get all the facts right!
Bucket list as in bucket of crap
What is your bucket list?
WTAF.. This should be called TOP 5 HSVs of all time, HSV use Holden platforms, but we're not owned by Holden they were totally separate and are still in business.
Only car on your list that is 100% Holden is the A9X.
All the cars on this list utilise the GM/Holden platform.