👑 Newcomer Tries to Explain a Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses Service
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Years ago, a few Jehovah's Witnesses rang my doorbell and I politely respected their courage for going door-to-door for their faith. Well, I must have gotten on a list and would get several more knocks on my door afterward. I wouldn't answer.
One day, after working until midnight, I had just gotten out of bed to eat some string cheese when I heard some minivan doors being shut. I peaked through the drapes and saw another visit coming, probably to talk about spiritual warfare of putting on the Full Armor of God or the Breastplate of Righteousness. I was cranky, not ready to put on my Big Boy Pajama Pants of Theology and greet them. So I didn't answer and formed a bad opinion of JW's. Felt kinda bad about it.
For this visit, I decided to knock down previous biases and walk into the JW's home. It wasn't what I imagined. Some quick thoughts:
1) Family atmosphere. Everyone was talking with one another.
2) Ranks up there as the "Best Dressed" church I've attended. Men were in suits, women in dresses.
3) Music selection had a "marching" feel to it.
4) First half of service was a 30-minute talk. Then remaining hour was from The Watchtower (JW publication used for every single globalwide Kingdom Hall). The gentleman at the podium felt like a sergeant with a second-in-command. The second would read from the Watchtower, then the "sergeant" would call on people to expand.
5) The "church" is the congregation, not a building. Witnesses STUDIED for this and had DEEP insight. Truly felt like a cross-examination.
6) LOTS of prophecy talk, comparing Daniel's visions and John's Revelation to wars, pestilence, and COVID-19 (oh yeah, masks were required). These are supposedly fulfilled prophecies that Armageddon is close according to JWs. Lots of talk of a prostitute identified as Babylon the Great from Revelation 17:5.
7) Didn't sound like JWs believe Jesus resurrected physically. More emphasis was on Jehovah, which is the proper name for God.
8) 1914 was a BIG year. It was the first year of WWI, which connects Daniel's vision to the American/British alliance. Also, when Jesus reached kingly power.
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0:00 Welcome from Green Bay
1:18 Previous JW Interactions
4:30 Inside a JW Kingdom Hall
5:35 Newcomer Initial Reactions
6:46 Mask Required and Dress Code
7:55 Babylon the Great
9:00 Attempt to Explain JW's Watchtower Lesson
15:59 Questions After Service
20:19 String Cheese Outro
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It’s interesting how different our experiences are. I’m a member of the Church of Jesus Christ and once when they came to my door and gave me things to read, I offered them a Book of Mormon and they accepted. (I thought I'd scare them off.) One lady actually read a bit and was happy to find the name Jehovah there. So, we had some great discussions (I know wich topics to avoid if I don’t want to argue.) They also invited me to a special service during easter week. My experience was very positive. The people were very friendly and making sure I wasn’t feeling alone. I know they’re seen as very controversial and there are some points of their doctrine that I can never agree with. But I always enjoy discussions with them.
The JW's teach that Jesus is not risen up in the flesh and is an invisible spirit and that goes against 1 John which
teaches that he is risen in the flesh.
I respect the commitment to the string cheese bit. It’s wrong, but commendable.
My colleague asked me to come with him to the kingdom hall. I said yes, but on one condition that you will come with me to church. He never asked me again.
Thanks for taking a look. Even several months after this visit, I still find it surprising with the door-to-door reach-out being such a bold outreach, if other churches are brought up, it's a different reaction. Very close-knit church body, I never knew.
@@52churchesin52weeks very interesting to see how some churches match and others totally different. If you which you could do another season of 52 churches. There are so many.. more churches. But, i know that this takes a lot of time and effort. Respect that you've accomplished your first year without quitting. Thanks. Which you a great a wonderful new year, 2023. Greetings from Belgium.
You didn't mention why he never asked you again.
@@ripcord8738 It's because Jehovah's Witnesses refuse to step foot in any house of worship that isn't one of they're own, since they deem all other denominations and religions to be false worship.
@@linguaphile88 ALso that they have the true religion so why would they step into another church.
They've been kicking the can down the road for 150 years with their interpretations of Bible prophecy and getting it wrong consistently for the same time.
The Bible is very accurate. Only true Jesus followers can understand it. JW are correct everything they have been preaching since 1914 has come true. Wait till you see the kat prophecy coming soon. When you hear World piece and security get ready for the greatest tribulation ever.
@@skatedanzz 😆
Do you remember which teachings you didn't understand? I'm an ex Catholic.
@@ripcord8738 I was initially referring to their failed Armageddon predictions but now in retrospect I don't believe anything that comes from that organization.
@@InvisibleJesus1919Sir, God wants you and me to be safe. JW are warning people about Armageddon. God is not slow. The apostle Peter wrote: “Jehovah is not slow respecting his promise, as some people consider slowness, but he is patient with you because he does not desire any to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance.” (2 Pet. 3:9) He has set his deliverance of mankind as due to occur in this generation. (Luke 21:32) God, with all power in heaven and earth, is in no necessity to make promises he cannot fulfill. One of the apostles of Jesus Christ said, ‘God cannot lie.’ And the prophet Isaiah wrote: “Trust in Jehovah, you people, for all times, for in Jah Jehovah is the Rock of times indefinite.” -Titus 1:2; Isa. 26:4.
10 Just a little while longer, and the wicked will be no more; You will look at where they were, And they will not be there. 11 But the meek will possess the earth, And they will find exquisite delight in the abundance of peace. ( Psalm 37:10-11 )
Daniels prophecy mention that in the very last days the worlds most powerful country would be divided and it’s happening right now.
(Dan. 2:41-43)
41 “And just as you saw the feet and the toes to be partly of clay of a potter and partly of iron, the kingdom will be divided, but some of the hardness of iron will be in it, just as you saw the iron mixed with soft clay. 42 And as the toes of the feet were partly of iron and partly of clay, so the kingdom will be partly strong and partly fragile. 43 Just as you saw iron mixed with soft clay, they will be mixed with the people; but they will not stick together, one to the other, just as iron does not mix with clay.
I had neighbors when I was a kid who were JWs. I went to church with them once. I also had door knockers over the years. One lady asked for a donation because her literature hand outs were not free to her. I read through this goldish little book she left with me. The lady that visited with me was nice. I invited her in. She shared some scriptures with me to support their belief that when we die our physical life AND our spiritual life are “snuffed out” like candle. I shared with her scriptures I knew that pointed to our spirits as eternal. She made the comment that I knew my scriptures well. I was not attending any church at that time. Being inactive at church was a part of my journey back to Jesus which led me back to church.
All different churches including exjws are Jesus's followers according to the Bible?????????
I am so glad atheism is growing!
@@dekishajones282 So all different churches including exjws are Jesus's followers according to the Bible???????
@@dekishajones282 You shouldn't be.
JWs don't charge anyone for their literature, including JWs.
The "Marching song" was based on one written IIRC by a JW while in a concentration camp. It's been revised a bit through the years. But obviously for that reason has some historic feelings for them.
THE REST of the songs though, recently, have got very "protect the church leaders" North Korea style. (I speak as someone leaving because I've found out about the "Church" factually, and it differs from what they present on the outside)
"Through Jehovah's prophecies". They got you. One meeting, one WT and you're already falling into the rabbit hole. Lol. But also glad you've gone around looking at things objectively and fairly to see the good where it is. Thanks!
Thanks, much appreciated for your comment. Even though things were "too much" for me personally as a newcomer, I did admire the preparedness of the church for the Watchtower stuff. You just don't see that in other denominations. I really liked the song, and if it was crafted based from a concentration camp, it helps add a human element to the strength and solidarity for the church.
What is IIRC?
@@52churchesin52weeks "If I recall correctly". They change the songs a few years ago.
I've been researching the Church's history, but I've not made extensive lists like others have. And I grew up on one of the "old" song books. The anthems were epic! :)
I really appreciate your humble and forthright report and am presently taking it to heart... God Bless You!
Never stop being you. I am so thankful for your videos and you are an amazing man. We need more of you in the world.
In my experience as an exJW, the way to deal with them if you don’t want visits is to treat them nicely, and ask to be on the “do not call list.”
Being mean only feeds the persecution complex we all had, so letting them down gently is the best thing you can do.
Or you can nicely tell them you are an apostate, and you will be sure they will put you on the do not call list. 😉
@@marfta7414 Perfect 😂
@@marfta7414 That works too. If you’re an apostate, definitely say so and you’re pretty much guaranteed to never get another knock lol
I found telling them I was a Latter Day Saint worked wonders 😆 I'd ask questions then be like 'Oh we believe similar things about the trinity...'
@@marfta7414 that is the best answer!!!😂😂, they will run” like the Devil to the cross…😂😂😂”
The first time I went to a meeting, a woman told me I was a flirt and pulled my dress further down cuz I guess I was showing too much leg… I’ll never forget that woman…. Love ❤️ from Portland Oregon
Yeesh, that's quite intrusive. Did you attend after that?
@@52churchesin52weeks hanno labitudine di giudicare qualsiasi cosa ,poi dicano che non bisogna giudicare IPOCRITI SENZA IL CONTEGNO DOVUTO A UN CRISTIANO.
at my visit, a ''brother'' in the kingdom hall, told me
that my skirt was unattractive in length!
yes everything is controlled
Recently a member of the JW church wrote me a very kind letter by hand. A full page, and signed it with their initial. They invited me to an event. I thought it was very sweet, and wished I knew who sent it. They actually knew my name. Anyway, I’m not of their faith (I’m LDS) and won’t be, but I thought it was very sweet.
The JWs often send letters. This is not unusual.
This man equated a Kingdom Hall service to a football team! Hahaha Well done, sir!!
Crippled Jel
So what's so ha ha about that..I think he said the conductor was like a QB ..everything funny to y'all?
That was my favorite part
I appreciate as you share your experience, it is enlightening.
Thank you for always trying to be respectful and gracious in every video you do about your experience at each church.
Thank you for sharin about JW. I had a friend before from this church and he was a good guy.
This would have been very stretching for me. Well done on taking that on.
Thanks Niqui, still met some great people despite my confusion as a newcomer.
Love your humor, and appreciate your good, kind, respectful heart! ❤️☀️
This video has answered so many questions I've had about JW's and Kingdom Hall worship services. Thanks for doing this work so I never have to (not that I would have ever done it anyway), but my curiosity is put to rest.
When I was a Mormon missionary, I saw some Jehovah’s Witnesses knocking doors in the same apartment complex we were at one Saturday morning, and it was absolutely hilarious because we ended up at the same apartment at the same time, and I just looked at them and said “so… who’s gonna take this one?” 😂 I ultimately let them take it because they only get out every Saturday and we were out every day.
JWs who work Mon-Fri only go out Saturdays bc that's the only day the have available to do it. JW have people called Pioneers that used to devote 70 hours a month/840 hours a year to preaching. That was recently changed to 50 hours a month/600 per year. Anyways, they go out pretty much everyday.
@@astarajarvis9965 yeah, Mormon missionaries are out every day except 1 day per week (usually Mondays) for about 14 hours a day for 1.5-2years 🤷🏻♀️ so we were out way more than them which is why I let them take that door haha
@@Amandaaa2244 that shows true dedication for sure. Jehovah's Witnesses are required to preach always. There's not a set duration for when the quota is filled. If you are a witness and you stop preaching then you become "inactive" and are considered spiritually weak. So your "mission" would begin shortly before you were baptized, or if you were raised a JW as soon as you could talk and give a presentation, and it wouldn't end until you died. Even elderly JWs who are unable to walk out in the ministry will do "telephone witnessing" i.e. being a telemarketer for the lord, or at the very least to preach to their caretakers and doctors in order to remain active.
@@astarajarvis9965 oh yeah we promote sharing the gospel from the time you’re baptized or find the gospel (lots of talk of “share the gospel,” “let your light shine, etc.), but yes, 87 hours a week of missionary work is hard to surpass as a “normal person” 😂
I have JW family. You just happened to visit a meeting when that was the theme of the service that particular Sunday. There are other subjects covered other times and other Sundays.
Interesting. I'm a Latter-day saint. And my cousin is JW. I was always curious about them and wondered what it would be like to go to church. My cousins are no longer active, but I wish I could go with someone i onow to just see what it's like. Thank you for the description. I find it funny that JW missionaries are willing to come at my door, and i appreciate their time and effort spreading the good news. But when giving them a panflit of my church, they decline. Which is ok it doesn't have to be forced. But they do really believe every other church is false and maybe not permitted to learn from other churches? If I'm wrong, JW please correct me.
My first response is Eph.4:4-6.
The bible makes it clear that there's only one true religion so, actually, anyone that professes Christianity and takes it seriously, should be willing to defend their faith by using the Bible.
JWs believe that they're the true religion. I'm an ex Catholic(now a JW). I've researched other beliefs and that's the conclusion that I've come to. That explains why we don't accept pamphlets or other literature.
@Ripcord I understand. We also believe there in one faith, one baptism. And the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints believes it's the true church restored church that Jesus Christ has placed on Earth and set up beforeascendingback to heaven. In 1 Thessalonians 5:21
It says, "Prove all things; hold fast that which is should we not test our beliefs and to know it is true in what we believe in. We can also test other beliefs and if they are good why not hold fast. We believe every church has some truth and good in them. Therefore I don't mind going to other religions and seeing the good in it. It test my own faith, and most of the time, it makes my faith stronger.
In our 13 article of faith, it reads. 13 We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul-We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these thing.
I'm also an ex catholic
As I understand it.. they do not use the King James Version Bible.. They do not worship Jesus Christ as the son of God.. They do not get Baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. They get Baptized in the name of Jehovah.. and they only worship Jehovah.
Nebucanezzar's dream was a waking dream or vision. Jehovah's Witnesses believe that God's prophets were given these divine "dreams" from Jehovah as it foretells or warns of a future event pertaining to God's new Kingdom being ushered in by Jesus Christ's rule. Because God's Kingdom is foretold through the prophets, Nebucanezzar's dream is emphasized among Jehovah's Witnesses as foretelling the events surrounding the time of Jesus Christ's rule beginning in 1914 as Satan was thrown out of heaven. Paul, the last living apostle to have witnessed Jesus Christ's physical ascension to heaven, wrote letters to the congregations explaining Jesus Christ's resurrection. In the book of Revelations, the apostle John who also witnessed Jesus' physical body ascending to heaven, accounts of further visions pertaining to the political and religious conditions of the world leading up to Armageddon or God's Great War that will rid the earth of Satan and the demons. Babylon the Great is both a physical place and a figurative place that Jehovah's Witnesses describe as "false religion" therefore any religious entity that does not worship Jehovah is considered false religion according to the Scriptures. Rather than speculate during worship, Jehovah's Witnesses encourage everybody in attendance to closely examine the Scriptures through a personal Bible study.
Hi Jennefer May I just say as an ex witness and previous Protestant church goer that ALL religions are man made and all have their own ideas and chosen doctrines, all have leaders who pass on these beliefs to their members.
We should not follow any man or indeed woman as there seem to be many female clergy today.
Prayer, scripture, faith and love is what we need 🙏🏻
Actually 607 B.C. is inaccurate, Jerusalem fell between 586 and 587 B.C. This is stated in virtually all encyclopaedias and supported by a vast volume of historical information. The Watchtower claims this figure is wrong and that Jerusalem was destroyed in 607 B.C.E. This is highly significant for Jehovah's Witnesses, as if Jerusalem was not destroyed in 607 B.C., then Jesus rulership did not commence in 1914, nor was the Watchtower Society chosen by him in 1919.
Its funny when exclusivist religions get themselves into these kinds of odd technicalities. I'm pretty sure the date of the fall of Jerusalem was fairly well documented by the time of Russell.
Well all that matters is that we’re following the Lord Jesus Christ who is the First and the Last who was dead and now lives forevermore Revelation 1:17-18 Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ will have forgiveness of sins and eternal life forevermore with the Lord Jesus Christ. When we have the wrong Jesus ( Michael ) then we’re wrong for all eternity The correct Jesus is where two or more come together in Jesus name there Jesus will be in our midst ( whether in New York or Dublin) Omnipresent is a quality of God Only Choose life Choose the Lord Jesus Christ forevermore as king of kings and Lord of Lords as our good Shepherd and the light of the world
Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ will have forgiveness of sins and eternal life forevermore with the Lord Jesus Christ forevermore
Also, it'd not matter if one denomination wished to believe their King was somehow ruling a bit longer/shorter. Who cares right? However, they changed their "prophecy interpretation" multiple time, over 140 years. So it's constantly moving goalposts while also claiming "we are God's people".
A bit like me claiming to be a plumber, but always moving my date to do the work 2 weeks ahead...
@@phrog849 It was. He kept moving the date, strangely exactly 10 and 20 years ahead each time. :P
@@TechyBen Thanks for your informative comments. I’ve subscribed to your TH-cam channel. All blessings from Ireland in Jesus Holy name forevermore
I def know what you mean, I was a child and was defensive about them coming to the door. This is a cool concept to experience these churches.
We are now living in the times of Revelation
I have never seen or experienced this before. Wow!
The one thing I can say about Jehovah's Witnesses is that they know what they believe and try to live it... and that is not easy. Knowing a little about their 'attitude' toward other churches I guess I'm not surprised about the vibes one might feel when visiting their chapels.
Thanks for the plug and, yeah, it's not easy but it's no surprise.(John 15:18-20)
Why am i watching this at 4am. And why is this so funny, im literally crying. This guy is a savage i love it
Thanks for this info about the Jehovah witnesses church 👍
That's funny that you mentioned the attitude changing a bit after you told them that you had been visiting other churches. I had Jehovah's Witnesses stop by yesterday and when they were trying to set up a return time I mentioned that we could meet after I get back from church on Sunday. I felt like the older one wasn't happy that I already go to another church. He didn't seem really motivated to nail down a time, so I guess we'll see if that was a dealbreaker for them. I think it comes down to the belief that all institutions are basically corrupt, so me being in another church to them might mean the devil has a lot of power over me already.
hello Tim. Well I’m a Jehovah’s Witness and they won’t have any issue about you going to another Church because we are use to people we meet on our door to door work attending their own church.
We take the position that we are Gods only earthly Channel.
I might as well put that out there.
In the bible Jesus foretold an apostasy would take place after him.
2 Thessalonians 2:3 “Let no one lead you astray* in any way, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction.“
From the 4th century AD Christian religion diverted from the teachings of the bible and absorbed pagan beliefs ultimately creating hybrid teachings that don’t accurately reflect bible teaching.
The immortality of the soul and hellfire just a few examples.
So we welcome people from any religion to join us.
But we are trying to get them to stop paying attention to teachings of men since that’s all you will get at other churches since they are all mens channels.
Only Jehovah’s witnesses are Gods earthly channel.
So don’t feel bad, but please, come visit our Kingdom Hall
@@cultfiction3865 thanks I appreciate your response! As a Latter-day Saint I'm a believer in a full and complete apostasy as well. I guess that belief is one of the things that motivates both of our faith traditions to reach out in proselytizing efforts, even amongst the various Christian denominaitons.
I just know that when I've gone to people's homes, if they told me they were a part of another faith, I'd be interested in talking to them about what that tradition is, and finding common ground to build from. I didn't really feel same interest from the gentleman who I spoke with.
@@tvtimewithtim Yes I very much agree with you that the belief in an apostasy must have motivated both our groups to save people from the effects of this apostasy.
Also Jesus commanded us to preach the gospel or we more commonly call it good news.
So yes lots f common ground there.
In fact of all the word religions, the only two I know of that do evangelise all over the world are Latter Day Saints and Jehovahs witnesses.
A guy I spoke with that is a former evangelical actually said that although he doesn’t agree with some Jehovah’s Witness teachings or LDS, he admires the fact that they evangelise the way that they do.
He admitted the other religions aren’t doing enough in that regard.
So certainly quite a bit of common ground can be found in our groups brother
@@cultfiction3865 yeah it's definitely something some other Christians seem to admire about our groups. Of all the times I've had Jehovah's Wittnesses come to my door, this is the first time they've set a return appointment, so I'm excited to keep having dialogue. During COVID I did have phone calls and letters written to me as well, which was cool. You all definitely seem to try all the ways you can to spread the good news. I've always tried to be very nice when answering the door, since I know personally how awkward it can be cold contacting like that. In the past, they have all been content to just hand me a pamphlet and be on their way though, so I'm interested to see where this goes from here.
@@tvtimewithtim Good points and all Jehovahs Witnesses have some differences.
Sometimes we will meet someone on the doors that wants to argue and some Jehovah’s witnesses will debate with them, while others will read into the motive and conclude that there is no sincere interest there.
I’m sure you aren’t one of these people sir but I’m just highlighting the way that there is mileage within different Jehovah’s Witness personalities.
Our main objective is to encourage people to look into their bibles and understand their bibles in a way that is tethered to reality.
Not the reality created by any religious organisation but the reality that can be accurately called objective truth.
We endeavour not to add or toe away anything from the holy word of God.
I’d be interested in how you get on with these guys.
First of all, very excited to see this video! I was looking forward to it. Your experience was super interesting, I've never been to a JW church, but they definitely seem to have some unique beliefs. I do admire them for their faithfulness though. If you're wondering why there was no cross imagery, it's because they believe Jesus was crucified on a wooden pole.
I didn't know about the wooden pole until after posting the video. Had a friend who grew up JW who gave me some insights, and that was one of them.
Sadly their faithfulness is towards their governing body, who take the place of Jesus Christ as the JW's mediator. Disobedience is punished by excommunication. Faithfulness through fear. Faithfulness to Jesus is through love and gratefulness for saving us at the cross.
@@52churchesin52weeks All different churches including exjws are Jesus's followers according to the Bible?????????
All different churches including exjws are Jesus's followers according to the Bible????????????
@@52churchesin52weeks Thanks for your videos I’ve subscribed to your TH-cam channel from Ireland. I’m an ExCatholic who is now a disciple of the Lord Jesus Christ while making other disciples on my journey with the Lord Jesus Christ
Just as what Jesus said the truth will set you free. The truth of Jehovah witnesses will set you free from all the false teachings.
It was interesting to hear your thoughts on people not being spectators in a Kingdom Hall and actually participating. However what would be unclear from 1 visit is that participation is heavily directed and constrained. To participate you literally have to parrot or paraphrase the answers and points given to you in the study material, be it the Watchtower article or current study book. You cannot question, ponder or articulate any thought that is not in line with the material of focus. It is not like an educational participation, it’s purely a demonstration that you agree with the study leader and material.
Yes, it's almost impossible to really know the JW religion in one meeting. Almost everything they do has an apparent side and then the real side. Often, someone is so taken by the apparent side, that they don't mentally and psychologically acknowledge the real side until they are already committed. Then, backing out of the religion can be an entire nightmare in itself. Ironically, spoken as being "a loving arrangement of Jehovah."
Yes, definitely. Initially, was very intimidated where it felt like a college course and you hadn't studied! After awhile, started to see some of the answers from the church was essentially rephrasing the Watchtower readings. Still, was still so confused not knowing what everything entailed.
JWs are the true religion so their meetings aren't an open forum or "educational participation"
So, yes, it is a "demonstration of agreement" with the material being discussed.
I have no idea what you mean by "heavily directed and restrained" or "parrot" or "paraphrase". I don't parrot or paraphrase anything.(I know what the words mean. What I'm asking is, what are you implying?)
@@ripcord8738 The True Religion? Where do you get that from? Sounds a bit self-righteous and narcissistic. Perhaps even cultic. How can you make such a claim? Better yet, how can you make such a claim and hide behind an alias?
@@ripcord8738 remember the proverb. "don't correct a ridiculer ..or they will continue to ridicule you..find something they say was right....no
matter how small...they will look like a dog chasing a car..if you stop...they get confused...you have the truth....but you need to understand humans more , and not try to correct everything..you will just be spinning your wheels. They are in darkness and as Jesus said. They know not what they do
Lehi (Book of Mormon Scripture) left Jerusalem 600 years before the birth of Christ. It was several years before they sailed to the Americas. Only when they got there did Lehi the Prophet say he knew that Jerusalem had been destroyed and the Jews carried captive into Babylon. So, 607 B. C. for the Babylon invasion is off by at least a decade.
Yes, it does look like a gloomy rainy 🌧 day in Wisconsin, raining, lots of busy bodies spreading parapagon about the Kingdom Hall , it is just as it is spelled. Imagine what a Hall looks like, and you just described how a Kingdom Hall looks like. "Very Simple."
I have subscribed to your TH-cam channel from Ireland
Appreciate you taking a look, thank you!
They focus on so much negative all the time to me. It’s a good thing to know those things are happening but it’s already in our faces throughout the week. We know what is happening. Hope, and following in the footsteps of the savior will lead us more to him. Not all the sadness. We used to get watchtowers from some JW that would come and EVERY page except for one was death, sadness and hopeless stuff. Ouch. No thanks. We already know this world is sad.
I am very impressed with your effort to understand such deep Bible Prophecy after attending 1 JW Meeting! I remember when I first started going to the JW meetings, I would get these really bad migraines because I was trying to understand so much material and scriptures in such a short amount of time. It's a lot easier for me now. There is so much confusion around Jesus. The Father is God Jehovah, Jesus is God's son and our savior. The Holy spirit is God's active force/power. The Watchtower Theme changes every week, so it's not the prophecies of Revelation every week. 1914 World War 1 is significant because that's when JW believe that War broke out in heaven(not just earth) and Jesus (like a Warrior King) evicted Satan and the Demons from the heavens down to the earth. And the events on Earth are fulfilling the prophecies from the Gospels about the Last days leading up to Armageddon (God's War to end all Wars) where Satan and the Demons(the angels who chose to follow Satan instead of God) will be abyssed for a time. We believe Jesus is the Appointed Judge and executioner. At Armageddon Jesus and the Faithful angels/Faithful Slave will vindicate God's name, clear reproach from God's reputation and then put God's will into action on earth. Where all will have to know who Jehovah is and acknowledge their Creator. I know many have a lot of negative things to say about JW, but they are just quite ordinary, humble humans trying to share the Bible Truth as best as they can as imperfect humans. We living in very stressful and uncertain times, so having a sound and regular Bible Study routine is actually very comforting in these times. Not easy, but still comforting. The Bible is a Divine Book and makes more sense than what the politicians and celebrities are preaching. Why are we as a Human race having another resurgence of the Nazi ideology. We said 'Never Again' and yet in recent years there is an uprising. They did a Documentary about the Modern Nazi regime in Australia, quite alarming stuff. With all the advancement of human technology, why are humans not learning from History and paat wars. We truly do need Jesus to step in and sort all matters straight. Greetings from New Zealand!😊
"Why are we as a Human race having another resurgence of the Nazi ideology. " What are you referring to exactly?
The recent uprising of Nazi hate demonstrations as reported in the U.S.. Of course, all conflict and war was foretold as describing the times of the end, therefore that is actually Bible prophecy and good news.
Greetings from England. I have a question I hope you can answer. Do the 7 trumpet blasts of Revelation sound in chronological order?
They only call on people who raise their hands.
A member after service did clarify that with me. At first, I was taken aback! Like was in college and didn't do my homework.
The Witnesses have knocked on my door several times through the years and I’ve tried to be as nice to them as possible as I respect their dedication to door to door knocking (something I’m not willing to do unless I absolutely have to), they’ve given me some of their Watchtower literature and I’ve been curious to visit a Kingdom Hall myself but I don’t want to be further dragged into it after hearing from former members so I appreciate your input.
The Psalms 34:10 on the screens is the year text. It's a scripture or quote from a scripture for everyone in the organization to reflect on throughout the year. It's different every year. Before the screens were a thing, they used to just hang a fancy sign on the wall over the podium with the year text on it.
Are you a JW?
@@ripcord8738 former JW.
I'm confused. I tried to reply to your request to clarify some of the study material yet it was immediately removed?
I had jw s come to my house. We talked. I said the name of Christ was the only name under heaven whereby Salvation can come. I never saw them again
You're implying that (1) you frightened them or (2) you proved them wrong, but there are other explanations.
Did you tell them not to come back? (if someone asks not to be called on again, they'll honor that request)
They may have called back but you weren't home or you didn't hear them knock.
How long has it been since they last called? They call on hundreds of homes. "Never" is a long time.
You also said that "they" never came back. Have other JWs called?
@@ripcord8738 aha.. good point..
That pretty much ended the conversation.
And yes i did receive a call the other week.
I've never told somebody they can't share their religion in my home.
Is their video of your visit to this kingdom hall?
Hi, I'm a ex-JW, I grew up in that organisation. I can answer some of your questions on the beliefs and the doctrine.
Jehovah witness believe that all the other religions are part of the "false religion" or "the whore of babylon". Based on their own interpretation of the book of revelation.
The importance of Daniel prophecies can be traced to some branch of the adventist movement in the end of the 19e century. This idea entered the doctrine with the founder of the group that'll become the Jehovah's witness, Charles Taze Russel. His interpretation of revelation point that 1914 would be the day of the final judgment and the destruction of "babylon the great". There wasn't any armageddon that year but there was a first world war, so the prophecy was linked to that event to give it some weight by the successors.
The absence of cross and the role of christ. Jehovah's witness associate the cross with idolatry and therefore Babylon the great. They believe the christ was executed on a pole and not a cross. According to their interpretation, Jesus christ was resurected physically after 3 day in his tomb. After a few prophecies and appearances he was raptured. And now reign in spirit over his kingdom wich is the Jehovah's witness organisation. That's why their "temples" are called "kingdom halls".
I hope I answer all your questions! Great video!
I like how you are willing to visit Christian faiths outside of creedal Christianity.
Don't worry about accuracy when it comes to this organization. They're way off on many things
Everything..
Amen!!!
False christianity still focused on the baby Jesus..
True Christians view him as the bible directs..
If Yeshua/ Jesus - is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, which political groups and leaders will he allow to rule with him?
Hint-
Daniel 2:44-
[And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which will never be destroyed, and that kingdom will not be left for another people; it will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, but it will itself endure forever.]
Revelation 19:11-16
[And I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse, and He who sat on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and wages war
His eyes were like a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns. He had a name written that no one knew except Himself
He was clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.
The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean.Now out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
And on His robe and on His thigh He has a name written: “KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.”]
Hallelujah- Praise Jah* you people!
Exactly!
Fascinating ..as Mr Spock would say
Hii first time I’ve seen your channel , so what’s the purpose of going to 52 different churches ?? Are you searching to find a place or just interested in diff religions? Wow I’m impressed how much you remembered from one visit amazing…
Hey Tori, Thanks for checking out the channel! To answer your question - first time doing this several years ago, I was falling away from faith and felt it mattered to give The Church (as an institution) one last heave-ho by going all-in by trying a new one each week. It was life-changing. For this journey, lots of different reasons (worship, faith, curiosity, sense of adventure, just to name a few). With this visit as a newcomer, was quite surprised how different it is compared to other churches.
I applaud their not celebrating pagan holidays. I've had JW approach me and what they said made sense if you only take in consideration the scripture they backed their statements with. It however contradicted other scriptures.
Which ones?
@@ripcord8738 notice never backed up 🤣🤣
Absolutely true
(Watchtower/Jehovah's Witnesses)
June 1, 1998
TO ALL TRAVELING OVERSEERS
Dear Brothers:
Former Child A_____s Who Move: The March 14, 1997, letter to bodies of elders, page 2, paragraph 3, gives the following direction regarding a former child m______r who moves: "The secretary should write on behalf of the elders to the new congregation's body of elders and outline this publisher's background and what the elders in the old congregation have been doing to assist him." Please note an exception to this direction: The elders may have written to the branch office and given full details about a former child a____r who is currently serving as an elder or ministerial servant. In such a case, if the branch office has decided that he can continue serving in a position of trust because the sin occurred many years ago and because he has lived an exemplary life since then, it will not be necessary to pass on information about the brother's past sin if he moves to another congregation. Please have the elders make note of this clarification during your visits.
__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
The full letter can be found here: www.jwchilda___e.org/document/june-1st-1998-letter-to-all-traveling-overseers/
(Fill in the blank with bus.)
(Watchtower/Jehovah's Witnesses)
Some very scary stuff and if you look at their current manual for the elders it seems to still be there's very stance today.
@@alexanderx33 No. I'm referring to the link.
I also attended the JW Church once when I was about 10, back in the early 1970s, with my aunt's family. The people in the congregation seemed very close, but I didn't understand the teachings. This church does seem quite different than mainstream Christianity.
For insight on how to ask questions of JWs to help them think about what the Bible says vs Watchtower teachings, I find the discussions on the You Tube channel "bridget fromAZ" very interesting.
I love her channel
There's no difference between Bible teachings and Watchtower teachings.
The additional interpretation of Nebuchadnezzar’s dream is the foundation of JW teachings.
From that they get :
- the invisible return of Jesus (1914).
- The selection of the Bible Students (later rebranded as Jehovah Witnesses) in 1919.
- The appointment of the Faithful and Discrete Slave (Russell, 144 thousand, Governing Body) as gods one true Chanel.
- Hence the demand of unquestioning loyalty to the teachings of the organization
Wow!...you couldn't have landed in a KH on a day when a more heavy duty subject was being discussed.😮 Wondering have you ever found someone since then who explained those terms and math to you? Watching your experience made me analyze how I can be better prepared to help ones visiting, especially when prophecies like that one are being reviewed. Thanks for coming in for a visit.😊
Could you confirm whether the 7 trumpet blasts of Revelation start with the 1st trumpet and end with the 7th trumpet?
No one said war is a good thing. But true it fits does fulfillment of last day prophecy. We have hope of God through His Son ruling the Earth with Satan out of the way
What I want b to know is why even call it "string cheese" if you're not going to peel it into strings?! Otherwise it's just a cheese stick.
Ya got me there!
Thanks for visiting. Sorry it left you bewildered.
They believe they have extra knowledge on the interpretation of Daniel chapter 4 and Nebuchadnezzars dream above what interpretation God gave Daniel.
Jesus didn't work out Daniel chapter 4 like them either!
Jesus said "no one knows the day or the hour".
Jesus did say that "no one knows the day or hour" but what does that have to do with the establishment of the Kingdom and the beginning of his invisible presence?
I notice that you're not offering an "interpretation" of Daniel chapter 4.
Are you disfellowshipped?
That string cheese tutorial cannot be backed up by anything in the Bible OR the Book of Mormon. It's false doctrine that you ate it that way! The book of Cheese chapter 3 verse 5-7 clearly states that you should snip a little bit from the top, (maybe an1/8" tops) and peel it all the way down to the bottom. If done properly, you should be able to get 20 good bite (peels). This is the true and eternal way to eat string cheese. :)
Tom, I'm gonna need to do some more studying in the Book of Cheese. I could swear Cheesippians 4:13 said, "I can bite all string cheese through Christ that strengthens me."
Lol
The string cheese outro 🤣🤣🤣👌🏼👌🏼
also each week has different topics, you just happened to go when the prophecies were discussed. Some topics include families, relationships, etc
When it comes to studying the book of Revelation you must have a very open mind, regardless of what church or denomination you're studying with. Say a prayer, take two aspirins, and call me in the morning - Dr of theology. Lol
I'm a seventh - day adventist and i thought the long pole with the microphone on it was a terrific idea. We need it in my church because it is sometimes hard to hear ehat people are saying. We believe differently about when the devil and his angels came to earth, but we sometimes talk about the image in daniel.
Thank you for the String Cheese PSA!
You're welcome. At some point, someone (anyone?!) will pipe-in and agree.
Each meeting is different. Each study deals with different subjects. The week you went happened to be about prophecy.
Thanks for the insight. Yeah, can't imagine every meeting was like this one.
The names of the gods of Watchtower:
Chaos.
Confusion.
These two reign supreme in the kingdom of Watchtower.
you got thrown off the deep end for sure. Having said that the watchtower portions are really dense and overly analyzed. I recommend you check out their Passover “ceremony “ it’s labeled as a memorial for the death of Jesus. It focuses completely on the relatively smaller picture with jesus and is design to be consumed by newcomers . You will more than likely get an invitation on your door this year. Usually it’s celebrated on March or April, it moves according to old Greek calendars. I would be very interested in seeing your perspective on it.
You poor thing. I felt the same thing when I first attended. You did good though.
Thanks for watching. Yeah, didn't walk-in expecting how it works. Did you go back again?
@@52churchesin52weeks I was born and raised in JW and attended until I was 18. I'm 27 now. They revise their theology every few years, so my information may be a little outdated, but I can answer any questions you may have.
you still active this organization?
@@loganbyrd2024
You forgot to comment on if they asked you for money or did the Jehovah's Witnesses pass a money plate during their service? Common in churches today.
I feel it should be no surprise that someone so confused about how to eat string cheese would be so confused in searching for truth in the church. (I am very much kidding. About the church thing, not the cheese thing).
Also, have you checked out Catholicism? I'm not Catholic but I'm interested.
@@sethjohnson5568 Ha, so far no one is jumping on this string cheese bandwagon.
Did do a Catholic shrine the week before this, though it wasn't so much about Catholicism. Will be doing a focused Catholic church video in October. There was a lot of curiosity the first time doing this about it, will re-explore.
I’m glad you’re going to all these churches, but I’m the kind of person that immediately said any single service can be an outlier so you really should spend a month at every church. But obviously that’s a considerable amount more of work and time that it takes for you.
In recent times they have eased up a bit on the rules surrounding their insane doctrine against blood transfusions. While it's good that fewer people have to die now, I feel terrible injustice has been done to those who might have lived if this added revelation or 'new light' had been given at the outset. Worst of all is the death and suffering of children who were denied treatment because their parents made the decision for them. Similarly, damage was done in the third world where this teaching undermined the work of medical personnel. I remember a retired nurse who with her husband, a doctor, served as medical missionaries to New Guinea. She told how long it took her and her husband to begin to win the confidence of a tribal group to the point where they would allow them to treat them and their children for a host of treatable conditions, especially eye infections that frequently caused blindness. One day the natives suddenly stopped coming to the clinic and actively avoided them. It took a quite a while to learn the reason. JW Pioneers had arrived in the district, In amongst their message they tried to teach them about the evils of transfusions. Due to the difficulty of translating this point, it was understood as: "beware of the people at the clinic who might use a needle to put a devil into you". Because they didn't believe that white people would lie about other whites, it both terrified the natives and left them angry to think that they had been misled by the health workers. The JWs failed to establish a congregation and moved on but the damage had been done. After all those years she was still emotional at the needless suffering that resulted from these well-meaning but misguided JWs.
Kudos for examining various churches. Always interesting to hear someone's honest reaction to a Meeting.
You asked if anyone could help clarify. I'd be glad too.
Jesus commanded his followers to undertake a worldwide preaching campaign. (Mathew 28:19-20) "Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations" Perhaps they had a good conversation with you and were following up on potential interest with a goal of offering a Bible study. Likely it was the same person visiting you. Otherwise, there is a goal of visiting each house in an area once a year. Paul and other 1st century Christians also preached from "house to house." Acts 20:20
If you attended 7 months ago, then that was a few months after in person Meetings resumed and shortly before Covid precautions were lifted (including masks).
Sounds like you went to a pretty deep study session with BOTH the Public Talk and Bible Study being focused on prophecy. That's uncommon. There are hundreds of subjects for Public Talks which vary each week. Similar for the Congregation Bible Study. Here are recent lessons:
www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/?contentLanguageFilter=en&pubFilter=w&yearFilter=
The Awake! is less deep and on topics affecting people today.
www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/?contentLanguageFilter=en&pubFilter=g&yearFilter=
Many are regarding aspects of Christian personality and family life. Still, Jesus instructed his followers to "Keep on the watch" (Matthew 24:42) and so consideration of Bible prophecy is important and can provide a strong hope for the future when God's Kingdom under Christ begins ruling over the earth and restores the earth and humans to what was originally purposed. Matt 6:10 "Let your Kingdom come, let your will take place . . ."
Here are good explanations regarding what God's Kingdom is and what it will accomplish:
www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/about-gods-kingdom/
They looks so lovely and nice but that is not the case, that is their way of trapped every one who enters through their doors! They put that image of Babylon the Great, and supposedly it represents all the churches, but honestly they are Babylon the Great.
I'm not JW but I think the persecution they have gone through over the pledge of allegiance is pretty interesting. As I understand they think they should only have allegiance to God and not any country so they won't do the pledge. I think its commendable how they didn't waiver on that belief amist persecution.
Thanks Sarah we would love for you to join our loving family at the Kingdom Hall and come to know the truth that will set you free :)
That is one teaching I do also agree with but so so many of their other teachings cause harm to their members. It’s sad.
@@amydurga8448 All our teachings can be backed up by scripture which is what we follow.
The difference between us and other religions is pretty much what you said.
If something can be considered harmful such as shunning or refusing blood transfusions, despite biblical commands, other religions will disobey those aspects.
As Jehovah’s witnesses we obey everything, without regard to whether it can be considered harmful in the context of a modern world.
Remember that when King Saul was commanded to strike down everything that breathed in Amalek, you could argue that this command was also harmful since kids would have also been struck down.
But when King Saul disobeyed part of that command he lost his kingship for been disobedient.
My point is that it’s not about what we consider harmful from a subjective position. It’s about been obedient to the bible and apart from JWs no other religion is obedient.
It’s just cherry picking for them
@@cultfiction3865 JW’s do an amazing amount of cherry picking themselves. Like how the scripture in Rev that says 144,000 will go to heaven is interpreted as a literal number, but the context of that very same verse is ignored. Go read it and the context and tell me they don’t cherry pick and decide which thing a are literal and which things aren’t to suit them. Massive amount of contortions are required to prove some doctrines, where as reading in context is not done on the regular. When you are reading your publications, notice how many times they say undoubtedly or likely or other weasel words. Then follow those “proof” scriptures listed and read in context. They are often not really the proof they claim.
@@amydurga8448 The number 144 000 is contrasted with a great multitude which no man was able to number.
This proves that their are two groups very clearly.
It would be a contradiction to give a specific numerical figure such as 144000 then go on to compare that with a multitude which cannot be numbered, to claim they are the same group of saved people.
Clearly we are dealing with two distinct groups of people.
Also the bible is clear that those of the 144 000 have been bought from the earth.
Revelation 14:3 “And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders; and no one was able to learn the song except the 144,000 who had been purchased from the earth.”
What we teach is what the bible also teaches. It’s not something we have sneakily cooked up to mislead people.
The context is obvious for these bible verses.
It’s Christendom that cook up deceptive interpretations not us.
It wouldn’t suit Christendom’s religions to admit to there been a little flock because most of them make the immortal soul a central teaching, despite that been in exact opposition to what the bible actually says.
I was and you said that the songs were like a marching band. The only one that sounds like that is avancen testigos #17. You can look it up in english. This one was inspired by the jehova witness in Hithler era. The witness were incarcerated for not renounce to their believes. Hitler wanted worship to him.. so the brothers came up with this song to encourage the other brothers.
5:29 this is how I eat a Kit Kat… my wife hates it. I say, who has time to split them?!? 🤣🤣🤣
All I would say it is a shame you happened to choose a meeting discussing really deep spiritual things. Suggest (if you really want to know) contact perhaps an elder from the congregation and ask for a sit down explanation, using your bible and you will see exactly the interpretation that God gave to Daniel regarding Nebuchadnezzar and the statue.
A tip to all those who do not want JW's calling at their door - have a sign stuck to your door 'No Religion' they will walk.
Also if there is something you are not sure about or feel is not right, after the meeting you can approach any elder to voice your concerns.🥰 This is why it is good to prepare beforehand to iron out any concerns about the material being discussed. (notes)
The league of nations was replaced by the United Nations not by NATO
Thanks for the clarification, knew I'd get one of those alliances mixed up.
I left a comment and it disappeared, so I left another one, and it to disappeared ,was it deleted?
Hey Ann, when did you leave the earlier comment? It's very rare if comments get deleted, and if so, it usually involved some type of vulgarity or character attack.
@@52churchesin52weeks I left it yesterday with no vulgarity or Character attack. I did mention that I was amazed at how much hatred for JW were on here compared to any of your other visits i watched.
@@annmarie102 Yeah, nothing done on my end. This is a guess, but if the comment was a reply to someone, I believe if the original commentor deletes their post - that would wipe any other replied comments.
@@52churchesin52weeks lol no it was a post not a comment to someone
About the ressurection we believe Jesus resurrected with a spiritual body like the one he had before going to heaven he was able to materialize but that is how he would appear and disappear infront of his disciples and why they would'nt recognize him and he would need to be a spirit to be able to go to heaven 1 Corinthians 15 explains this, we also don't use the cross anymore because from our study of scriptures we found the word in the Greek the bible was translated from is Saturos which is one upright piece of wood and never refers to two pieces together in other words it's a Stake not a Cross and also we view carrying the symbol Jesus died on as Idolatry, as for our songs there are many different sounding songs some are millitary sounding not all there are very different ones depends on what the subject of the song is about
@Johnnywalkerbravo Thank you for your explanations. They're very clarifying and helpful.
Born raised JW and been to many faiths since. Of all the churches I've traversed the most detrimental was Islam, second to that the JW's. I was spirit filled as a kid and had many NDEs out of body, was labelled demonic by JWs, they gave me a great love of the Bible and God and routine so I'm thankful for that but been with LDS church on and off for 20yrs. A bit like you said in another video protestant brain hear Book of Mormon and there's a barrier...but of all churches LDS live gospel the best.
JW theology is dangerous, the best way I describe JWs is modern communism wrapped in religion and you are constantly expected to perform and conform to the party policy in every aspect! Doomsday cult!
Regarding the songs or hymns that are sung in the kingdom hall, we use a songbook with 151 songs and hymns that address different topics, some speak of Christian qualities, others speak of Jehovah, Jesus, paradise on earth, of the Witnesses, and of the coming kingdom, when they speak of the kingdom, yes, they have a tone similar to the military because for us the witnesses the Kingdom of God is a real kingdom established since 1914, that is why our meeting places are called the kingdom hall.
AKA - Kingdom Hells, where children and babies are actually beaten, if not quiet. I witnessed first hand, and elders did little as to intervening. Thankfully, I'm out, my children are responsible, educated adults, not depressed, on meds, as SO many Jws are. What you see, is not what you get with this group.
I preferred the old 1984 songbook Erick.
I miss that old songbook terribly
Appreciate the insight. With so much discussion on 1914 and war, it made me wonder if the majority of JW songs/hymns have that marching vibe.
@@52churchesin52weeks Some do. We have an old songbook from 1984 and it was my favourite one.
It had a song called “follow the warrior king” and also “a victory song” that sounded militant but also many that didn’t sound that way.
Many kingdom songs based on the Hebrew Scriptures may sometimes sound militant since war was quite central to Old Testament times.
For the record David I think you are doing a good thing testing out these different churches to find out how they compare.
Like yourself I’ve always found Mormon appealing for its strong family values and kind people.
Nonetheless I still consider it utterly false which is why I could never become involved with it.
I think for the most part, we cant choose our belief, but our belief chooses us.
I'm sorry for the mean comments directed at your faith Eric. Don't let them get you down
what is the point of the watchtower? do they not read directly from the bible?
They believe people need direction in how to read and interpret the bible. The Watchtower is supposed to guide you in the meaning of the bible.
Anyone that's familiar with JWs knows that the Bible is their primary source of information so at their meetings and elsewhere, they read from it directly.
@@ripcord8738 Ok if they use the Bible ONLY ,Explain the end of this system will come ,with in the Anointed "1914 overlapping generation" ,USING THE BIBLE ONLY, matt 24:36, Mark 13:32
@@zip6404 Before I answer, are you disfellowshipped?
@@ripcord8738Im not a Jw ,and what difference does it MAKE, Do you ask everybody that question ,when you defend your faith.or you dont have a answer because the question i ask you,you cant defend it with the Bible?
Ok, how difficult it was to fight off the temptation of being triggered by the way he eats string cheese🤣
No! Not the right way to eat string cheese! Lol. 😂
In the symbolism of the Book of Revelation, a woman represents a church, and the Beasts represent earthly kingdoms.
11min in : you dont just get called on to answer you have to put your hand up and they alway use mics so the congregation can hear the answer and ofcourse zoom now
They deny the deity of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Because he's not almighty God.
Pls revert to 1 John
@@johncronin5311 John1:1(if that's the verse you're referring to) has been disproven to support the trinity. Or were you referring to 1st John?
@@ripcord8738LDS here. I’m curious as to why you think that Jesus isn’t one with the Father, and therefore not God (yes, mainstream Christianity, we believe Jesus is God and is one with the Father, but in a different way that I can explain if you ask :))
This is quite interesting. I definitely would have been intimidated also. JW’s have an interesting view on the role of Jesus. But nonetheless, it’s sad to me that they have his identity all wrong. Thanks for sharing your experience with us! JW’s believe that Christians are pagans and they don’t believe in the cross. They refer to him dying on a tree and they see him as a prophet basically. They don’t believe In the trinity and they believe they are the only ones who are going to heaven.
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
JESUS IS Lord! His Lordship was MADE - See Acts 2. Who is the Sovereign Lord? He is different from Jesus as mentioned in Acts 4:24, 26, 30
There is no term God of gods or Creator or Maker used for Jesus.Acts 4:24 - who is NOT Jesus and who is called Sovereign Lord - "one accord to God and said: “Sovereign Lord, you are the One who made the heaven and the earth " Who is TOTALLY DIFFERENT from Jesus who is the Anointed and the Sovereign Lord's SERVANT as Acts 4:30 mentioned "through the name of YOUR holy servant Jesus.”" Acts 4:26 - one against Jehovah and against his ANOINTED one.
GOD IS NOT A LITERAL TORTURER. GOD is LOVE. He only gives eternal life to those who exercise faith in him and his Son (John 3:16, John 14:1) and NOT TO WICKED people. The Wicked will VANISH AND WILL BE NO MORE. Psalms 37:20
How many is Jehovah? Trinitarians say there are THREE Jehovah. What does the Bible say? There is ONE JEHOVAH and NOT THREE JEHOVAH. Deut 6:4. - “Listen, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah
WHO IS THE STAR IN NUMBERS 24:17? That is Jesus. It is the same Hebrew word used in Job 38:7 for the morning stars. So as Jesus is called THE BRIGHT morning star (REV 22:16) so also are the other morning stars(angels). So Jesus is the CHIEF Angel with the archangel's voice (1 Thes 4:16). Jesus is called Prince of Peace in Isa 9:6 and the original Hebrew word for Prince means PATRON ANGEL which is the same Hebrew Word used for Michael the archangel in Daniel.
Jesus is the High Priest and the High Priest is NOT GOD himself.
GOD DOES NOT WORSHIP HIMSELF : John 4:22 -You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, because salvation begins with the Jews.
Jesus Included himself IN WORSHIPPING THE FATHER. ONLY A CREATION WILL WORSHIP GOD.
If the holy Spirit is a PERSON then now you have MANY PERSONS IN ONE GOD. REV 5:6 - seven eyes, and the eyes mean the seven spirits of God.SO NOW YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL SEVEN PERSONS IN GOD.
Who is the cause of Salvation? Both GOD and the lamb are saviors, Rev 7:9-10, even Jesus needed to be saved by the Father from death as the Father is the SOURCE OF LIFE AND SALVATION , Hebrews 5:7 & John 5:26 - THE FATHER GAVE THE SON LIFE.
Does the Bible called Jesus MADE AND BORN? Yes! JESUS is the Messiah and a CREATION BY GOD! He is called “BORN OF/FROM GOD”. (1 JOHN 5:18) Hebrews 1:5 showed that Jesus was MADE/BORN (orig Greek-gennaw). Also it says "he will become my son" Notice, FUTURE TENSE, WILL, so before that the SON DID NOT EXIST. If you are BORN AND MADE then you are a creation. , Hebrews 1:5 mentions I WILL BECOME HIS FATHER, so Jesus relationship with the Father has a BEGINNING, When ? it was TODAY. TODAY implies a beginning.
When did Jesus become SON? Even before Jesus became human he is called SON , Prov 30:4
Was Jesus GIVEN LIFE?
He is called the firstborn and beginning of the CREATION BY GOD (COL 1, Revelation ) Also john 5:26 mentions that the FATHER GAVE JESUS, THE SON, with LIFE. If Jesus was given LIFE OR EVEN ETERNAL LIFE, then Jesus does not have life or eternal life before those were given to him. Notice, the Father was NOT given life.
JESUS was MADE LORD (ACTS 2:36).JOHN 6:57 - Jesus Said “ I LIVE BEC OF THE FATHER” SO JESUS’ LIFE was dependent on the Father and his SOURCE OF LIFE/Eternal Life IS THE FATHER as John 5:26 states as well. 1john 5:1 - Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born from God,+ and everyone who loves the one who caused to be born loves him who has been born from that one . who is this that HAS BEEN BORN from that one? That is Jesus! 1 John 5:18 - Jesus is called BORN FROM GOD JESUS IS BORN FROM GOD, 1 JOHN 5:18 - We know that everyone who has been born from God does not practice sin, but the one born from God* watches him, and the wicked one cannot take hold of him . WHO is the ONE BORN FROM GOD that watches us and protects us and who does not sin? JESUS CHRIST!
HAS ANYONE SEEN GOD?
NO MAN HAS SEEN GOD and if they see GOD's face THEY WILL DIE. Jesus was seen by many and they didn't DIE so Jesus Is Not The Almighty God. Jesus is called SON even before coming to earth as human. Exo 33:20 states "“You cannot see my face, for no man can see me and live.”" NO MAN CAN SEE ME, notice ME , you think ME IS NOT LITERAL? IT IS LITERAL "ME" WHO IS GOD.
GOD IS FROM FOREVER:
John 1:1 mentions the WORD WAS IN THE BEGINNING, so Jesus was LIMITED "IN THE BEGINNING" Unlike GOD who is FROM FOREVER (Psalms 90:2).
Is "a god" a valid translation in John 1:1? Sahidic Coptic translation uses an indefinite article with the word “god” in the final part of John 1:1.
The Greek used in the BIble does not have an indefinite article "a" so that's why you don't see the "a" in John 1:1, The Sahidic Coptic translation uses an indefinite article with the word “god” in the final part of John 1:1. again, john 1:1 about theos - Strong's Concordance theos: God, a god , so "a god" is a valid translation. "The NAS New Testament Greek Lexicon" defines theos as "a god" as well. so it is a valid translation. Also Thayer's Greek Lexicon also defines theos as "a god" so it is a valid translation
Is Jesus the same as Jehovah? Jesus is the SON. Jehovah is Our FATHER (Isa 63:16). Even the trinity doctrine states the SON IS NOT THE FATHER, so Jesus is NOT JEHOVAH
How many person is GOD? God said " I am God Almighty", The use of I am, means GOD is ONE PERSON. Do you use I am, me, myself, me alone for ONE LITERAL PERSON or THREE PERSONS? You only use those phrases for ONE literal person and NEVER FOR THREE PERSONS.
Is Jesus described as a Morning Star like the Angels? Yes. Rev 22:16 - 16 “‘I, Jesus, sent my angel to bear witness to you about these things for the congregations. I am the root and the offspring of David+ and the bright morning star.’”+ JESUS IS THE BRIGHT MORNING STAR, Angels are also called morning stars in Job 38:7, so Jesus is the BRIGHT OR CHIEF OF THE ANGELS (archangel) as 1 Thessalonians 4:16 mentions.
What does Firsborn means?
So depending on the context the firstborn can be the chief, principal, or first in time or place or rank. Still though, when you use the firstborn with an OF, “firstborn OF”, because of the OF , that means the firstborn BELONGS TO THE GROUP, just like when you say firstborn of the sheep. The firstborn is a sheep. So Jesus belongs to the group of creation, firstborn of all creation.
Jehovah is called GOD of gods, who are these gods? if you say that those are all false gods, then you are saying that GOD is like Satan as he is God of all false gods. Those gods exist, just like King of kings, those kings exist.
No, none of them believe they are going to heaven.
They all have an "earthly" hope... resurrected to "paradise earth."
Oh wow! I didn’t know that. How odd and hopeless.
@@mattmurdock2868 144k goes to heaven to rule as kings and priests and part of firstfruits and to judge the 12 tribes of Israel. Not all are firstfruits and judges
@@Mr.DC3.1914
"For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that THEY ARE the ENEMIES OF THE CROSS OF CHRIST:
whose god is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame--WHO SET THEIR MIND ON EARTHLY THINGS.
For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ."
Phil.3:18-20
EARTHLY hope...
EARTHLY organization...
Gods channel of communication on EARTH...
Paradise EARTH....
EARTHLY, EARTHLY, EARTHLY!!
"Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroy, and thieves do not break in and steal.
For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also."
Mt.6:19-21
"SET YOUR MIND ON THINGS ABOVE, NOT ON THINGS ON THE EARTH."
Col.3:2
Witnesses are Earthly minded, worldly.
None of the teachings of Watchtower can be found in scripture.
So why did you have to wear a mask there? I don’t think you actually covered that?
Hey Nicole! Thanks, I should clarify, as I cutout the full explanation while editing to cut down on time. My soft reference didn't do it justice.
Anyway, with all the wars, famines, and disease - the continued use of the mask (to me as an outsider, anyway) felt like a continuation of the prophecy-is-being-fulfilled theme that the world is becoming worse. Other churches (minus those attended in liberal downtown cities) haven't required them.
Felt odd to see the masks in one setting, then a five-minute drive down the street to an NFL stadium, and you could have 70,000 people packed in a stadium without the facial requirement.
@@52churchesin52weeks Hi love your experiment. The mask was just respect re COVID as a protection for any who felt unsure or unsafe
Good job pls do you know witnesses in Portlaoise in dublin? I need to connect with them please help me
They are always talking bad about other religion, its always the same week after week. I thoght i was learning when i was a member but now that i am a baptist i have learn so much, we never talk about any religion. We study the bible, thats the only book we study .
First, they don't want to called a church. They are an organisation. The founder, Charles T Russel , is still remembered as founder, but he calculated 1914 with the pyramid and wrote a book about the subject. When nothing happened except that he died in 1916, they came with the 2700 years after babylon.but the temple was destroyed in 586 and not 607. So dates dont match .
bec rev 6:2 mentions about Jesus who is the one riding on the white horse and a CROWN was given to him , which signifies he became king. Nebuchadnezzar's dream is about the final part of the days, and prophecies in Daniel correlates to Jesus' becoming king which JWs believe happened in 1914. then Rev 6:3 mentions that after Jesus was crowned, the fiery red horse followed, which signifies war and this was true as the first world war happened on 1914. Rev 6:3-4 - When he opened the second seal, I heard the second living creatureg say: “Come!” 4 Another came out, a fiery-colored horse, and it was granted to the one seated on it to take peace away from the earth so that they should slaughter one another, and he was given a great sword.h
If that happened in those days, why is the Church still broken into many sects? So as Christ's Body was Broken, the Church which is referred to as the Body of Christ is broken. So in the Last days when the literal fulfillment of these things come to pass There will be a flaming fire that leaves only the true doctrines behind, and so Christ's Body was resurrected by the fire and power of the Holy Ghost, so shall be the Churches made into one Church. Watch and pray and see that you DO NOT mock me on this matter, for you know not what kind of man you would deride. You can either Cling to Jesus or the Doctrines of your church. Chose this day who you will serve.
@@tranceemerson8325 the BODY which is the Christian congregation has many parts. Salvation we owe from GOD AND THE LAMB., Rev 7:9-10
Let me tell you that the Watchtower magazine has the questions and the answers, the members has to respond the same way it is written there, they don’t accept when the members responded using their own interpretation!! If that happens the elders may call the adept and let him know that the answer was in the magazine, and he needed to answer the way it was written! That is the control they has over the adepts. It is a cult and not a religion.
Your post is misleading, to say the least.
The watchtower articles that are used as a basis for discussion, are based on bible truth. This includes all bible subjects.
Before I go any further, JWs represent true Christianity exclusively. The purpose of that statement isn't to debate the truth of that assertion(if someone disagrees, I'd be happy to answer any questions they may have) but only in order for anyone reading this post, to understand the explanation and to clear up any misconception they may have about JWs.
If someone answers a question that's unscriptural, it requires correction. JWs don't practice interfaith, nor do they believe in "private interpretation".(2nd Peter 1:20) There aren't two "sets of truth".
Someone may choose to answer in their "own words"; in fact, that's encouraged but that's not an "interpretation".
JWs don't "control" anyone. That's absurd.
Are you disfellowshipped?
@@ripcord8738 you are responding like any active JW will do! I’m not disfelloshiped I sent my DS letter! I fell that if I continued there knowing all the CSA that the Watchtower hides and all the sexual abuser they covered I would have been like all of them, so I better left. You just have to watch the Australian Royal Commission Trial, more that 1000 CSA cases never reported to the authorities, plus all the lawsuits against the organization for the same problem all over the world! The JW organization has a policy that a brother shouldn’t report another brother to the police, plus on the CSA cases they ask the victims to present two witnesses, when have you seen that an abuser does the wrongdoing in front of witnesses? The other problem is the shunning, when a person committed a sin, nobody can talk again to that person, not even their own family, it can passed years and they don’t talk to that person, same thing is with all the person that had abandoned the organization, we lost all our family and friends! That shunning had been the caused of many people that had committed suicide. It is very difficult to loose your family that is still living. That is their love and they way they showed Jesus love!!! There’s more to say about “ this Christian Organization” but I don’t want to keep talking, he can do his investigation! Just checked the latest lawsuit in Pennsylvania and NY, where one of the person that was going to be arrested, took his own life! Just make your own investigation!!
@@ripcord8738What a load of crap.
Hope you did not give them any personal info. They will not leave you alone!!
As Jehovah Witness you cannot just get baptized and you are done. As you study the Bible you make changes in your self like you cannot smoke or anything that will harm your body, because life in God’s view is very precious and it is precious for us too. Your behavior you cannot speak bad words or be violent. There is so much more you need to know. It took me 5 years. Because I was a mom it was hard for me to make time to study. It should not take you that much time. I do not regret it at all. You will not too.
Hey Marzia! I love your name by the way. I’m a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Do you believe that only 144,000 people will enter heaven and dwell with God? I’ve always been curious of this
What must I do to be saved?
@@Ihayden accept Jesus Christ as your Saviour and then do the will of His Father Jehovah. Matt7v21 John1v29
@@stevenbakenhester Hi see what you think the bible is saying Rev14v3 Rev 20v6 shows why chosen (role).
@sandy b He is my Savior! So I am saved!
You should visit a Oneness Pentecostal Church! Preferably a United Pentecostal Church
Calvary Tabernacle in Indianapolis, IN Fountain Square area would be a place to experience Oneness Pentecostalism for the first time.
Appreciate the recommendation! Very curious after skimming at it, especially one with the speaking in tongues.
@@52churchesin52weeks I have grown up Oneness and attended the Bible College connected with that church. They’ve had a recent remodel and the new pastor there has lead them into revival by God’s grace. Lots of water baptisms and people receiving the Holy Ghost. I currently attend Berea United Pentecostal Church in Berea, Kentucky- we’re smaller than them but you most definitely would be welcome anytime there as well. I think you would enjoy either place- come expecting a move of the Spirit and life transformation!
According to JW teaching they are the only true religion everyone else is wrong .Enjoyed your perspective as a first timer,I was born and raised a JW
Presently many people are leaving because they are hiding pedophelia.
Every denomination believes that they are the one true church. The Catholic Church has made this same claim since the first century AD. Any church that does not believe that they are the only ones teaching the truth would not exist. Why would anyone attend a church that claims NOT TO TEACH THE TRUTH?
I love how creators who make content about JW’s always invite them to comment under videos.. they are taught not to search anything on TH-cam about their religion 😂 the only ones I truly believe search TH-cam is the Governing body.. only so that can see what people are saying to they can tell their members not to believe it. Smh
Are you disfellowshipped?
@@ripcord8738 No I'm am not a Witness. I just ended up falling in love with someone who is. There were disfellowshipped because of our relationship but she has recently been reinstated. Every since I met her I have been going down this rabbit whole of studying this organization and quickly came to realize all the mental barriers that the organization creates for their members. Its very disturbing and frustrating
@@louisguess6316 You mention "studying". Do you mean you that a JW conducted a bible study with you or did you study them on your own?
I'm not aware of any "mental barriers" that the organization creates for its' members.
Anyone who watches TH-cam vids will end up going down the 'tubes'. Distortion, misleading, lies, out of context to name a few. Have a proper bible discussion with them and then make an informed choice