Challenger - the story of Peugeot in the 1984 WRC

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  • Film produced on behalf of Peugeot by Jean Louis Mourey, chronicling the debut season of the Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 and its fortunes on the 1984 Tour de Corse, Acropolis, 1000 Lakes, Sanremo and RAC Rallies.
    This movie was produced for commercial purposes and the commentary, clearly translated literally from a French script, reflects this. It is uploaded here, however, because of the quality of the footage and the behind-the-scenes material, which is exceptional for the era. For VHS Rallies' exclusive range of classic rallying t-shirts, hoodies and mugs, visit vhsrallies.teemill.com
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  • @barristanselmy2758
    @barristanselmy2758 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Man these the sweetest cars ever. They just never looked or sounded any better than this here, The little 205, the AUDI. Man just so nostalgic to look at i grew up watching rallies in the early 90's as a kid. Seeing this again now, it's great. I used to watch the Poss in his Subaru Kiwi Rally Fan here

  • @VectorOfKnowledge
    @VectorOfKnowledge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Love these vintage documentaries. Information stated plainly and to the point, lots of technical details, great footage, and music used sparingly and tastefully.

  • @edak482
    @edak482 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Let's not forget those RALLY-MECHANICS working under the sky in all weather conditions, day and night. My greatest respect for those guys that never get mentioned.

    • @tomlepski8306
      @tomlepski8306 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I will forever remember Boreham's Mick Jones among the cream of live stage rally mechanics.

  • @Marvdogger2
    @Marvdogger2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    A company in Monaco now owns all the footage shot for Peugeot. Real shame they have no interest in releasing the archive.

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Very interesting to hear.

  • @tomlepski8306
    @tomlepski8306 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow! What incredible and amazing historic footage! Well done Monsieur Mourey, just like CLIMB DANCE, this does justice to PTS.

  • @TheLRider
    @TheLRider 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Was cheering Vatanen on in the Welsh forests in 84. Absolutely brilliant footage and showes once and for all that Audi were only winning against two wheel drive opposition and as soon as the T16 appeared they were no longer competitive. And yet they have milked that period for all its worth and really created the Audi brand. Marketing eh!!

  • @BungleBare
    @BungleBare 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    In every bit of footage of Group B rallies in Continental Europe until the end of ‘86 you can be assured of seeing spectators seemingly doing their best to get themselves killed. Crazy days.

    • @poplaurentiu4148
      @poplaurentiu4148 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I can not imagine how much faster & difficult would have continue with the WRC Group-S which suppose to follow as next level mid-engine after Group-B.. so many secret prototypes that can be found in museums like : Audi Sport Group S, Peugeot 405 Turbo16 & Quasar, Lancia ECV1 & ECV2, Ford RS 200S, Mazda RX7S, Toyota MR-(222D), Lada Samara EVA, Seat ibiza bi-motor, Vauxhal Astra 4S/Kadett E-4S.. (Porsche, Talbot, Citroen & Mitshubishi dropped they 'r works very quickly after Group B banning but all were planning to enter in WRC Group-S..)

    • @Wirefox1
      @Wirefox1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And that's the main reason they banned the Group B cars. It wasn't really the speed or the skill it took to drive them, it was the fact that spectators got whipped up into a frenzy and couldn't/wouldn't be controlled.

    • @OrientedRain374
      @OrientedRain374 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Wirefox1 Group B was banned due to the cars being too dangerous but also because of the spectators. There were many reasons but the main reason was the cars. Modern technology could bring group b back.

  • @TCJD2024
    @TCJD2024 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Peugeot is my favourite classic rally car, and I watch this because I'm a huge fan of classic rally so this peaked my interest enough for me to watch it and I cant stop watching it

  • @christiandesayes4718
    @christiandesayes4718 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks for sharing from france my friend my 20 years old BACk

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for visiting

    • @christiandesayes4718
      @christiandesayes4718 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks for your channel and in uk you have all pieces of engine and all for english cars like in the usa good for you in france if you had a car of the seventies apart chinesse pieces of shit NOTHING ! happy week end to you

  • @richardbryant7505
    @richardbryant7505 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Best rally channel on the tube

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That really is very kind of you to say so. Thanks for such positive feedback.

  • @mrmorizofan7001
    @mrmorizofan7001 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those on route services are just pure gold. mechanics doing their things and drivers getting prepped to next stage

  • @cakeofthepan2233
    @cakeofthepan2233 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nana’s taking the kids for a day of knitting and rally 😂….those were the good times

  • @garinakbar1907
    @garinakbar1907 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You know what, The way Peugeot 205 debuted in 1984 season was later repeated by Peugeot 206, when the 206 debuted in Corsica, Acropolis, Finland, San Remo and then RAC just like the 205 goes, and also it achieves success the following year for both 205 and 206

  • @SteveM-ly7oy
    @SteveM-ly7oy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I don't know where you get these from but I love them.

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I digitise old rally videos for free. So the tapes are supplied to me by various people - some have found me through TH-cam, others through Twitter or Facebook. Glad you like the material I share here.

  • @ericcraig8205
    @ericcraig8205 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Seems like yesterday,after group B it was never the same,great upload

  • @polzovatel009
    @polzovatel009 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Damn, I never saw this archive, thanks a lot dude.

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah, hope there's some more in the channel that you like.

  • @grantdeancommons5390
    @grantdeancommons5390 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great footage and history of the classic rally stages ,one of my fave cars the Peugeot 205 turbo 16

  • @tomvarcoe3100
    @tomvarcoe3100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing to be able to watch this years after the survivor cars are in collections .

  • @alexharris2313
    @alexharris2313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing footage. Thank you for uploading

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it

  • @mbturbo-bq3rg
    @mbturbo-bq3rg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love it. They are (still) true beasts and what a sound. P.S. @ 0:51 homogaletion?

  • @emdub2003
    @emdub2003 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only just found this channel. Amazing! Thank you so much for making this content available. What an era.

  • @roberthaviar8243
    @roberthaviar8243 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great documentary!

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @sefikempowermentcoachvilla7843
    @sefikempowermentcoachvilla7843 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic 👍👍 such iconic cars and era. Thanks

  • @alc-d4163
    @alc-d4163 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So glad that I stumble across this channel, can't wait to binge watch some more!

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What took you so long? Enjoy. :)

  • @scoobyking555cm
    @scoobyking555cm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Simply awesome 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🏁

  • @happysnapper6132
    @happysnapper6132 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Keep them coming buddy...

  • @theovermeersch9367
    @theovermeersch9367 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great content! 😊

  • @AriVatanen1981
    @AriVatanen1981 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great upload thank you 👍

  • @lukaswilfinger8752
    @lukaswilfinger8752 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what an amazing footage. thanks a lot for the upload.

  • @gothicpagan.666
    @gothicpagan.666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    And still they keep coming👌
    The car that saved Peugeot(road car that is, not the T16)

  • @sportquattro8430
    @sportquattro8430 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome new find, thx!!

  • @riccardomorino2360
    @riccardomorino2360 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for these fantstic videos

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you like them!

  • @lusilk7954
    @lusilk7954 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    many thanks 🙏🏼

  • @ranjitsian5481
    @ranjitsian5481 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good one

  • @MOSSFEEN
    @MOSSFEEN 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for that really enjoyable

  • @peeterpeeretas1847
    @peeterpeeretas1847 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quality upload!

  • @paulpearson3744
    @paulpearson3744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Unbelievably awesome video. Many thanks vhs rallies🤝👌👍🤜🤛. Rock n roll man🤘. This is absolute gold💯 and I'm only 13 seconds in! I wander how many of those road versions are left? A GTI on steroids💪. They must be a good £200k plus now. I'm probably way off. More probably. Rarer than chicken teeth! I've seen lancia 037 road versions North of £300k

    • @chrisbeare9486
      @chrisbeare9486 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've only seen one at an autosport show! Agree so rare. Stunning

    • @paulpearson3744
      @paulpearson3744 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrisbeare9486 I've never seen 1 in this country t16 or 037. I've only ever seen a legit rs200 driving c reg(early 86 when they 1st landed). It was about 1996 I saw the car literally driving normal down the road in North London. Pure white version. But I remember like it was yesterday. Even original Group A styled sierra (rs500 or not) and escort cosworths and lancia deltas are fetching 80 to 100 grand plus. They are absolutely amazing cars. 👍

    • @paulpearson3744
      @paulpearson3744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chrisbeare9486 it's kind of laughable that r200 were like 18 grand brand new in 86 and a sierra cosworth 16 grand. They are more valuable now than some houses

    • @lukaswilfinger8752
      @lukaswilfinger8752 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      there are a couple left. in switzerland there is one for sale for 250k. couple years ago you can get one for 100k. crazy, but also an amazing car

    • @paulpearson3744
      @paulpearson3744 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lukaswilfinger8752 cool. my estimate wasn't far off then🤘. I'm not religious and even though ari vatanen never won the title in the 205,,he is still god to me for the way he drove that car. Unbelievably awesome. I still get goosebumps watching this stuff. Makes the current day version of wrc look like Thomas the tank engine. I still can't believe how good it was!!👍

  • @sarahtaggart7397
    @sarahtaggart7397 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    HAVE THIS ON TAPE FROM YEARS AGO SOMEWHERE ALONG WITH A LOT OF WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP ROUNDS OF SAME ERA ALL BE IT THEY ARE NARRATED IN FOREIGN LINGO ! GREAT UPLOAD NICE TO SEE AGAIN ! 👍👍👍

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you have old tapes from this era then perhaps I can help. Easy to find me on Twitter and Facebook if you want to get in touch.

  • @markc1456
    @markc1456 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video! Anymore?

  • @jamesrobert4106
    @jamesrobert4106 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is footage somewhere of a T16 in a service stop in Portugal, I believe having a mechanic remove 2 very cooked, spectator fingers from the rear intake radiator 😬

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  ปีที่แล้ว

      Heard that one so many times, without any official evidence, that I've long since filed it under urban myth. But it's a great bar tale.

  • @jakeyorath2325
    @jakeyorath2325 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If I was hiring a guy to do the voiceover for a video about my homologation special, I'd make sure he could say "homologation"!

  • @mahatmaaaa3955
    @mahatmaaaa3955 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Paduu 🥺🥺

  • @paulleggett9735
    @paulleggett9735 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Go on.. Say Audi again

  • @mansoormannix1753
    @mansoormannix1753 ปีที่แล้ว

    I heard Peugeot 504 and 206 won WRC 2 wheels category thrice in a raw before pulled out of the race?

  • @f2cmadmaxx
    @f2cmadmaxx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ordee :D

  • @Manufly59
    @Manufly59 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who said: "If you want to win you need Finn!"

  • @georgiosdavaroukas2793
    @georgiosdavaroukas2793 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Αρι....Αρι....Αρι....

  • @paulpearson3744
    @paulpearson3744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    9:47...it's stocktaking time (brilliant! ) . No disrespect to the excellent commentary by Julian porter in the current day version but I way prefer the way this sport was presented back then and right up to about 02 to be fair. It was fine as a half hour end of day summary for each leg on eurosport or something. They have tried to make it too live and in your face now and it feels a lot more repetitive. I don't like the current day "power stage" thing either. Driver's points were a lot harder to earn back then and only the top 6 scored. The restart rules are a joke too. If a car crashes out? That should be it! I don't rate the likes of ogier and loeb as highly as Alen, Toivonen, Vatanen and Rohl by a long shot. And although helicopter shots are good.. They are completely over saturated now and that boring/almost depressing sound of the helicopter blade spinning round like a bloody giant lawnmower with the throttle stuck open. It was way classier and more watchable here.

  • @037cwash
    @037cwash 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    22.02-22.06 💪🏻💪🏻

  • @mansoormannix1753
    @mansoormannix1753 ปีที่แล้ว

    Peugeot was favorite car for everyone in Africa until the domination of economic Japanese cars especially Toyotas.

  • @mohdjesriothman3360
    @mohdjesriothman3360 ปีที่แล้ว

    this celica twin cam turbo ta22 is keep by toyota team europe in colgone germany

  • @guyjones3665
    @guyjones3665 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mid 80s snot rockets..

  • @georgekaravasilistvchannel
    @georgekaravasilistvchannel 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was stage in 7:25

    • @Marvdogger2
      @Marvdogger2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      George Karavasilis SS3 Loukisia

    • @georgekaravasilistvchannel
      @georgekaravasilistvchannel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Marvdogger2 thank you I love the stage loukisia and why stop the stage in there

  • @user-rc4bl8qr2c
    @user-rc4bl8qr2c 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    フロントノーズも短く 全長も短い ドライバーにとっては操り易い車両です ラリーは最高速2百キロクラシックなのでフロントノーズはあまり長くなくても良い フランスのラリーカーはゴタゴタしてなくてシンプルです タイヤフェンダーも前後あまり膨らんで居ない Bカーなので膨らましても良かったが 会えてプジョースポールは膨らませ無かった!今のラリーカーはタイヤからの空気?抜きのためサンドイッチが置けるほど前後を膨らまし空気?抜きをタイヤの後ろ側でやっているけどデザイン的には私は美しくない 空気抜きはしていないがイグニスのタイヤフェンダーはハウス はそんな感じでなんかブサイク?に診える。

  • @makzym0109
    @makzym0109 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    on 0.52 he talks about homogalation?

  • @ArZer
    @ArZer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How peugeot went from this awesome 205T16 to an Shit that is 307cc. Like what happened?

  • @Jason-vp8nd
    @Jason-vp8nd ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh my God but what about all the climate change oh my God aren't we supposed to be dead already over that SMH

  • @WannesDeBacker
    @WannesDeBacker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When Peugeots weren't absolute shit cars