His sounds are not bad. This amp is a Fender/Vox cleans and JCM800 dirt with 5 band master eq. It absolutely works for metal, you need a boost for the "burn" channel and all is well. The cleans and reverb are absolutely gorgeous.
Hi. I don t understand what you are stalking about. 1) Your using your Gibson. 70s PAFs re muddy from the get go. IF you re looking for more focus, hit IT with an EMG or a strong single coil or p90 bridge. 2) Use the Mesa EQ right. Lower the Bass, up the Mids. Treble for need of spark and sharpness. 3) Use the Contour. It Will give you the Mesa post EQ V what the Mesa Metal sounds are well know for. Was IT off? 4) Use an EQ or some DS or OD pedal in front. IT s there. IF you want IT to be. A Mesa is like your lady. IT takes some care, accessories, patience in learning to get to know her and tweaking and then she might show you heaven ... Ive learned my Express and Express Plus respond better to single coils, p90s and very crisp and clear humbuckers. Did you test it with other axes as well.
I'm not interested in this amp to do pure metal and don't think you should even be looking combo amp for that style. What I am interested in is a blue's amp that can get rough. I'm a player looking for warm mid lows when I'm bored with heavy stuff to do open mic stuff without demolishing the other players. So what's your opinion on this amp for that sort thing.
Looks Express series are what you might be looking for. But do make sure to try Plus versions with much versatility and also that famous EQ when you might want to have metal scooped sounds. I own 5:25+ and pretty much satisfied. Cheers
Get the 5:50 plus, turn gain all the way up, treble up to 8, mid to taste, bass below 3 and then put a classic V in the 5-band eq and crank the power section to at least 6. That will start breathing some fire! May need a power soak if the volume is too much, or a reactive load.
Sounded good to me! I don't get the Ghost comparison at all (they're like boosted JMPs right? 70s style RnR?}. I'd like to hear CRUNCH to BURN - to me that's the unique part of the amp, that you can go kinda dirty into full saturatiion - rather than sparkle clean to full dirt. Anyway, woulda liked a solo'd guitar track and quick run through the 4 channels. Good demo song tho!
If you want high gain tone somewhere between Marshall JCM and Fender, you take this. I am happy with the old 5:25 for now, I use it with a Tubescreamer for the thugging.
@@xanderraymondcharles you should look up my buddy Sean Zartorsky (Daath, Chimaira, Sinesisum) for vocals. He is a really nice guy and great singer. :)
I agree, the Express is not THE Metal amp, but it's a perfect blues and blues rock amp. It takes pedals very well. So, if you mostly play clean and crunch the Express is perfect. And if you like Metal sometimes just hook a fuzz or distortion pedal in front of the clean channel and you'll be happy enough.
Dude !! That song is fn dope !! I was listening on my phone so couldn’t hear the tone that well .. But I thought it sounded good and the song is sick. 🤘
Great demo and explanations! Had the express 5:50+ for like a week .. couldn't stand the gain on it.. (even with adding a TS9 and having the eq set to V shape). Returned it and got a mini rectifier.. couldn't be happier!
I have one of the original Limited Run Rack Mount Mesa Rectifiers used it while gigging on the road I purchased the Mesa 5:50 Plus Head With the Mesa 4X12 cab This thing screams I get Sustain for days! Absolutely love it for lead work No mud here I'm not a fan of the combo especially the version you reviewed
As he said, this thing is not built for modern metal, it's just not the intended purpose of this amp. I like the cleans and rock sounds on this amp though, but when I need gain, I will use something else, for sure.
Thank you so much for this review man. I was seriously 1 day away from going and checking one of these out. Much appreciated honesty. Your a time and money saver!
I have this exact amp and i don't like it. I can get a somewhat decent sound if i drive it with a tube screamer but yes this is just a dead sounding amp with no sustain. The clean channel is decent but i dont play clean
That amp is a classic rock amp. The only way you can get a metal tone out of that thing is to run a metal pedal of your choice through the clean channel (these amps take pedals really well). You need a Rectifier for your kind of music if you want to go Mesa. There's just no getting around it.
I tried this amp and I didn't like it, but it is obvious that you didn't like it I was expecting that you say that, if you didn't like the Mesa Mark Five, you wouldn't like this either, if you would like this better than the Mark five I would've gone crazy and not just me jajaja
@@xanderraymondcharles Not my 2 channel. I used to have a multiwatt, I turned the bass down because it does have a ton of low end. I had mine at 9 o'clock
@@xanderraymondcharles they're actually very misunderstood and tight amps, but you need to know how to set one up. With most Mesa amps, there's sweet spots. Also, everyone who complains that the amp is too loose and flubby doesn't know that you have to enable the fx loop in the back to control the master output, making the amp 10000000000% more usable.
His sounds are not bad. This amp is a Fender/Vox cleans and JCM800 dirt with 5 band master eq.
It absolutely works for metal, you need a boost for the "burn" channel and all is well.
The cleans and reverb are absolutely gorgeous.
Hi.
I don t understand what you are stalking about.
1) Your using your Gibson. 70s PAFs re muddy from the get go. IF you re looking for more focus, hit IT with an EMG or a strong single coil or p90 bridge.
2) Use the Mesa EQ right. Lower the Bass, up the Mids. Treble for need of spark and sharpness.
3) Use the Contour. It Will give you the Mesa post EQ V what the Mesa Metal sounds are well know for. Was IT off?
4) Use an EQ or some DS or OD pedal in front.
IT s there. IF you want IT to be. A Mesa is like your lady. IT takes some care, accessories, patience in learning to get to know her and tweaking and then she might show you heaven ...
Ive learned my Express and Express Plus respond better to single coils, p90s and very crisp and clear humbuckers.
Did you test it with other axes as well.
The epxress series doesn't have the tone controls before the gain like the Mark series but i do love the amp.
So surprised this channel doesn't have at least 500k subs, can't wait for you to blow up
swag1FL bob big mood
man I appreciate that so much! Thats the dream dude
Guitarists: "Rectifiers are fizzy and have no mids....."
Mesa:"............Hold my beer......"
Just found your channel, very charismatic and cool vid. I subbed. This is really well put together.
Hey thank you so much!
Hey with the female vocal on the song ya played did you use the voice tech? If not have ya checked it out at all? It's really something wild
Maybe you should dial down the bass eq-that’s where the flub is. You need mids to cut through.
Just got this amp. I'm not a metal player. I wouldn't buy if I only played metal.
I love it, it works great for my approach.
Say please that combo can metal sound?
I'm not interested in this amp to do pure metal and don't think you should even be looking combo amp for that style. What I am interested in is a blue's amp that can get rough. I'm a player looking for warm mid lows when I'm bored with heavy stuff to do open mic stuff without demolishing the other players. So what's your opinion on this amp for that sort thing.
Looks Express series are what you might be looking for. But do make sure to try Plus versions with much versatility and also that famous EQ when you might want to have metal scooped sounds. I own 5:25+ and pretty much satisfied. Cheers
This amp is SUPERB for blues and jazz !
You should only have a triple rectifier from mesa I think curios what's your take on a marshall jvm 50 watt?
Get the 5:50 plus, turn gain all the way up, treble up to 8, mid to taste, bass below 3 and then put a classic V in the 5-band eq and crank the power section to at least 6. That will start breathing some fire! May need a power soak if the volume is too much, or a reactive load.
I really need to know the amp settings of this, I have the same amp, but I can’t get a good gain tone, but here you got what I’m looking for.
I agree when you said flubby. Your badass playing was buried under the amps tone
Sounded good to me! I don't get the Ghost comparison at all (they're like boosted JMPs right? 70s style RnR?}. I'd like to hear CRUNCH to BURN - to me that's the unique part of the amp, that you can go kinda dirty into full saturatiion - rather than sparkle clean to full dirt. Anyway, woulda liked a solo'd guitar track and quick run through the 4 channels. Good demo song tho!
If you want high gain tone somewhere between Marshall JCM and Fender, you take this. I am happy with the old 5:25 for now, I use it with a Tubescreamer for the thugging.
Really dug the rhythm riff supporting the 1st lead, flubby and all.....how about the Mark V, or maybe the Peavey invective?
both of those amps are on my radar! I love boogie amps so much I wanna get the big boy Mark v
I use a throttle box in front of it... it sounds 👌
the problem with this amp is you cant switch between clean and crunch you must choose one or the other. Clean and Crunch are two most useful sounds
Pure southern American metal sound fucking killer
Holy crap that sounds insane dude
oh man so good.loved the song you played! absolutely killer!
Great song, riffing, and overall technique. Not knocking ya, ypur skills are superior to mine but would've loved to hear it out of the mix by itself.
Thanks for your review man i almost bought it lol
Great chorus hook. Love the keyboards in the background!
thanks boss I appreciate it! I re recorded this with my EVH and it sounds so much better
@@xanderraymondcharles you should look up my buddy Sean Zartorsky (Daath, Chimaira, Sinesisum) for vocals. He is a really nice guy and great singer. :)
I agree, the Express is not THE Metal amp, but it's a perfect blues and blues rock amp. It takes pedals very well. So, if you mostly play clean and crunch the Express is perfect. And if you like Metal sometimes just hook a fuzz or distortion pedal in front of the clean channel and you'll be happy enough.
Dude !! That song is fn dope !! I was listening on my phone so couldn’t hear the tone that well .. But I thought it sounded good and the song is sick. 🤘
You think so man?! Idk I borderline hate that tone haha
Stay Metal Ray yeah I had to edit the post. Maybe it was good production. I need to listen in the car .. lol
Yeah I don’t like it at all haha. Let me know when you get a second listen
After listening on headphones I think it sounds decent in the mix. It didn’t quite work in the solo but the rest wasn’t bad.
Great demo and explanations! Had the express 5:50+ for like a week .. couldn't stand the gain on it.. (even with adding a TS9 and having the eq set to V shape).
Returned it and got a mini rectifier.. couldn't be happier!
Exactly man! For whatever reason the gain just couldn’t get there. It’s just not built for metal
Bad ass review thanks brother
Thanks boss!
I had that same Les Paul Custom, a 76' I should never have sold it.
I have one of the original Limited Run Rack Mount Mesa Rectifiers used it while gigging on the road I purchased the Mesa 5:50 Plus Head With the Mesa 4X12 cab This thing screams I get Sustain for days! Absolutely love it for lead work No mud here I'm not a fan of the combo especially the version you reviewed
Killer song Ray!
As he said, this thing is not built for modern metal, it's just not the intended purpose of this amp. I like the cleans and rock sounds on this amp though, but when I need gain, I will use something else, for sure.
Dual Rec Multi watt with a Maxon 808. That's the game Genie Genie of metal tone.
Great playing man! 🙏. I also have an EVH (50 watt 6L6) Try the blue channel boosted. Sounds like a more articulate Mesa Boogie 👍🙏
Thank you so much for this review man. I was seriously 1 day away from going and checking one of these out. Much appreciated honesty. Your a time and money saver!
hey anytime!
Why why WHY did you not get the mark V 25 or 35. The best amp EVER MADE
I know :( I kick myself everyday for doing that haha
So many drooling options... you'll trade for something better soon i am sure :D nice job on the videos
I’m thinking of getting the mark v back I miss it so much
I just got it today...lol and I Love metal... lol ill throw a bunch of pedals in front see what happens...
I got one and I like it. Putting an eq pedal in the effects loop really helps cut out the flubbiness.
I‘d love to see what you get out of a fly rig or a sans amp in general
That’s a great idea honestly!
Thanks can’t wait to see the video
I have this exact amp and i don't like it. I can get a somewhat decent sound if i drive it with a tube screamer but yes this is just a dead sounding amp with no sustain. The clean channel is decent but i dont play clean
Thank you for the honest review.
That amp is a classic rock amp. The only way you can get a metal tone out of that thing is to run a metal pedal of your choice through the clean channel (these amps take pedals really well). You need a Rectifier for your kind of music if you want to go Mesa. There's just no getting around it.
Is that a 20th anniversary Les Paul?
Killer track 🤘
If you don't want that amp, give it to me.
1st boogie I've hear that I do NOT like. Very mushy/boomy in low end. Hard to even hear the riffs.
yeah it just turns into a wall of saturated mush
Seems like a key phrase here was "no tube screamer"
Um, bad post production dude. Hear it in person.
I have an Express+, I think it is a fine little amp for a lot of things, but metal is not one of them.
It's not meant for metal so ...
I tried this amp and I didn't like it, but it is obvious that you didn't like it I was expecting that you say that, if you didn't like the Mesa Mark Five, you wouldn't like this either, if you would like this better than the Mark five I would've gone crazy and not just me jajaja
use a TS dummy this amp killz
Revision F Dual Rectifier
Im reluctant to get a dual rectifier aren't they known for being super flabby in the low end?
@@xanderraymondcharles Not my 2 channel. I used to have a multiwatt, I turned the bass down because it does have a ton of low end. I had mine at 9 o'clock
@@xanderraymondcharles they're actually very misunderstood and tight amps, but you need to know how to set one up. With most Mesa amps, there's sweet spots. Also, everyone who complains that the amp is too loose and flubby doesn't know that you have to enable the fx loop in the back to control the master output, making the amp 10000000000% more usable.
Love mine
Not a Metal amp Good for Blues !!!!!!!!! Ben my main amp 10 now 10years !