Interesting that Halloween is seen as a burden on the elderly in some parts of the UK. In America, it is often seen as a time for the elderly to connect with the young. The assisted living facility I used to work at would have an annual trick or treat, and the residents absolutely loved seeing all of the children in their costumes.
There's a very compelling idea that the reason it is a global phenomena with regards to honouring the dead at this time is due to the racial memory/world wide mythos of a global cataclysm at the end of the last ice age where humanity was almost wiped out along with all the mega fauna. The main hypothesis is from the comet research group who has evidenced a swarm of meteors that both air burst and collided causing the event, the debris was from the belt earth passes through in June (when Tunguska happened) and in late October/early November when many conflagrations in more recent American history happend, such as Peshtigo. I find this a really interesting 'coincidence', possibly taking samhain even further back into our past.
Thanks for the Samhain podcast guys! We learned a lot, laughed a lot, and appreciate you both sharing your pagan wisdom with us. Paul & Julie Tracy - New York
I would love to spend time with you two. Both of you have such a wealth of knowledge of the 'old world', the Celts, Vikings, Witches & such. Happy Belated Samhain!🎃🎃
Kubi, you not being able to touch your toes is exactly why you NEED yoga! 😃 I'm very lazy too, not into any form of structured exercise, but yoga is the only thing that did it for me (at home, with TH-cam videos for guidance). You don't have to do any poses you don't want to. It's all about body awareness and helping yourself.
I’ve read suggestions that there were some similar animistic and earthy beliefs among the celts as perhaps eastern influences, but I haven’t heard about any of them practicing yoga. Yoga seems quite specific to the lifestyle of Indian culture and posture (from my limited understanding) despite how accessible the practices are. I’d be curious to know more of where this idea comes from. Great chat though! Thank you for your perspectives and knowledge
Really the Celtic outlook was BOTH animistic as well as polytheistic. The dead were reborn into An Saol Eile ( as it is called in Ireland) and this Otherworld had just as many places for the people as the Norse had in their differing Halls. Places such as Tír na nÓg, Tír Tairngire, Mag Mell, and Tír fo Thuinn to name a few. The Otherworld was seen as complex and differing as this one is.
to me it looks like the bards were only paid to record the ancestors of the leading families! that´s how you can get such big distortions (literally missing the whole grass roots parts of the folk religion). we have had that same happen in the uralic region.. originally every tribe had their own totems and holidays, and in the end only the biggest remained (bear festival). i've been reading about the nenets people, they still have over 100 clans left, even if they only number 50 000. that would mean that 500 people would go to the same "kin heaven", until they got re-incarnated into newborns (really it´s just a waiting place). the only thing the rewriters did was distort that concept for their "purgatory" (same thing with heaven and hell of course, just distorted "family heavens").
It surprises me Jacob, that as a Norse pagan you’d have a Christian tattoo on your forearm. Not attacking you. I just didn’t know you had connections to Christianity as well.
I am a Christian ✝️ and I want to know about Paganism. Do you have a Sunday mass as well? Do have pagan holidays? Like Thors birthday. Do you sacrifice animals to your pagan Gods?
There is no sacrificing animals. Yes we have many celebrations, in fact most Christian celebrations are based on older Pagan celebrations and changed to suit Christians a bit better. And I do not mean that in a hostile way at all, it's just true. Sunday Mass? Does that mean when Christians meet at Church on Sunday? In that case no we do not have a regular meeting like that unfortunately, mostly just because we're not accepted as much as Christians since nobody understands enough about us. We are fewer in number too which means our meetings are more like events that are planned out independently.
@cookiesontoast9981 I went to church on a Sunday in Germany it was empty, I felt very sad however in Asia the churches are full sometimes you don't even get a chance to enter.
Sunday is christian, and ultimately jewish (the sabbath). It has nothing to do with paganism. Ceremonies were fit according to the cycles of the sun and moon, not set dates. Thor doesn't have a birthday, because our gods are nature and the natural forces. Thor is thunder and the sky, he's not a person. Freyr is the fields and fertility. Frigg is the mother. Jörd is Earth. Aegir (a jotun) is the ocean itself, Njord is the god of sailors and fishermen. There are three "tribes" or "categories" of gods in the norse/germanic pantheon. The Aesir are the ones we are most familiar with, and which have strong connections with other Indo-European pantheons (except for Odin, he's the odd one out who has no equal anywhere else, leading to discussions of his origin). There are the Vanir, of which only a few names survive (Freyr, Freya, and their father Njord). They are more foccused on nature and magic, and may be the gods Scandinavians had before the Indo-European invasion some 3000-4000 years ago. The war between the Aesir and Vanir in the stories may reflect this was between cultures, where ultimately, the Aesir won as the "top gods", but the Vanir joined them as friends. Then there are the jotuns/jötnar, often inaccurately called "giants" (though this has nothing to do with their size, same as dwarves - the word "dwarf" actually comes from creatures in norse mythology, and were not actually small). These are primordial entities of nature, similar to the titans in Greek myth (where an Aesir or Olympian is "the god of-", and depicted more like a person, the titan or jötun is more "THE THING" itself, like being the "sea itself" rather than the "god of the sea"). An interesting idea is that these are actually the original gods even before the Vanir, of our hunter-gatherer ancestors, while the Vanir were of our pre-Indo-European agricultural ancestors. Crecganford has a good video on what the jötnar are.
Almost no one sacrifices animals today, because they don't have livestock and don't live in the countryside. But animal sacrifice is greatly misunderstood and was historically smeared by christians. All it is, is you slaughter an animal in the name of whatever god. The flesh is eaten, like any other time. The meal is blessed and shared with the gods symbolically. It's not much different than christians saying grace before a meal, or ritual slaughter of muslims and jews (though they refuse to adapt to current ways of humane slaughter and insist on using 1000+ year old methods, which we should not).
@@cookiesontoast9981 Not true, I know pagans who sacrifice animals. It's just slaughter for meat in connection with a ritual for a certain god, as our ancestors did. There's nothing wrong with it whatsoever.
We were all pagan before Christianity. The earth was all joined. The sea was the sea. It's what we did❤ and I love it.
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Hell yeah! You're the man, Jacob. Hail the gods, the folk and the ancestors!
You guys 😂 thanks for the giggles and the ancient wisdom... a dynamite combination! Love ya Koobs. Blessed Samhain to all! xxx
Thank you! That mean's a lot to us both :)
Interesting that Halloween is seen as a burden on the elderly in some parts of the UK. In America, it is often seen as a time for the elderly to connect with the young. The assisted living facility I used to work at would have an annual trick or treat, and the residents absolutely loved seeing all of the children in their costumes.
There's a very compelling idea that the reason it is a global phenomena with regards to honouring the dead at this time is due to the racial memory/world wide mythos of a global cataclysm at the end of the last ice age where humanity was almost wiped out along with all the mega fauna. The main hypothesis is from the comet research group who has evidenced a swarm of meteors that both air burst and collided causing the event, the debris was from the belt earth passes through in June (when Tunguska happened) and in late October/early November when many conflagrations in more recent American history happend, such as Peshtigo. I find this a really interesting 'coincidence', possibly taking samhain even further back into our past.
@rachellane2836 well put ❤️
Thanks for the Samhain podcast guys! We learned a lot, laughed a lot, and appreciate you both sharing your pagan wisdom with us. Paul & Julie Tracy - New York
Thanks for listening, Paul & Julie! 🎃
I would love to spend time with you two. Both of you have such a wealth of knowledge of the 'old world', the Celts, Vikings, Witches & such. Happy Belated Samhain!🎃🎃
I'm actually glad I have Halloween for an outside cover. (Samhain for the inside) 😂🎃✨🐈⬛🌙
Kubi, you not being able to touch your toes is exactly why you NEED yoga! 😃 I'm very lazy too, not into any form of structured exercise, but yoga is the only thing that did it for me (at home, with TH-cam videos for guidance). You don't have to do any poses you don't want to. It's all about body awareness and helping yourself.
Happy Halloween from the uk 🇬🇧 ❤
Happy Halloween from the US 🎃 👻
Halloween is a pagan festival because Christians in Asia don't celebrate it.
Thank you for the insights
thanks guys :)))
blessed Samhain
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I’ve read suggestions that there were some similar animistic and earthy beliefs among the celts as perhaps eastern influences, but I haven’t heard about any of them practicing yoga. Yoga seems quite specific to the lifestyle of Indian culture and posture (from my limited understanding) despite how accessible the practices are. I’d be curious to know more of where this idea comes from.
Great chat though! Thank you for your perspectives and knowledge
I'm missing being in Glastonbury ❤ was there last week
Really the Celtic outlook was BOTH animistic as well as polytheistic. The dead were reborn into An Saol Eile ( as it is called in Ireland) and this Otherworld had just as many places for the people as the Norse had in their differing Halls. Places such as Tír na nÓg, Tír Tairngire, Mag Mell, and Tír fo Thuinn to name a few. The Otherworld was seen as complex and differing as this one is.
So, when are you two moving in together? 😘
to me it looks like the bards
were only paid to record the
ancestors of the leading
families!
that´s how you can get such
big distortions (literally
missing the whole grass roots
parts of the folk religion).
we have had that same happen in
the uralic region.. originally
every tribe had their own
totems and holidays, and in the
end only the biggest remained
(bear festival).
i've been reading about the
nenets people, they still
have over 100 clans left,
even if they only number
50 000.
that would mean that 500
people would go to the same
"kin heaven", until they got
re-incarnated into newborns
(really it´s just a waiting
place).
the only thing the rewriters
did was distort that concept
for their "purgatory"
(same thing with heaven
and hell of course, just
distorted "family heavens").
It surprises me Jacob, that as a Norse pagan you’d have a Christian tattoo on your forearm. Not attacking you. I just didn’t know you had connections to Christianity as well.
It's almost like tattoos can just look cool and that's enough 🤔
@@TheWisdomOfOdin it’s almost like you’re offended and made a whole video before on it trying to justify being ignorant. 🤣
I am a Christian ✝️ and I want to know about Paganism.
Do you have a Sunday mass as well?
Do have pagan holidays? Like Thors birthday.
Do you sacrifice animals to your pagan Gods?
There is no sacrificing animals.
Yes we have many celebrations, in fact most Christian celebrations are based on older Pagan celebrations and changed to suit Christians a bit better. And I do not mean that in a hostile way at all, it's just true.
Sunday Mass? Does that mean when Christians meet at Church on Sunday? In that case no we do not have a regular meeting like that unfortunately, mostly just because we're not accepted as much as Christians since nobody understands enough about us. We are fewer in number too which means our meetings are more like events that are planned out independently.
@cookiesontoast9981 I went to church on a Sunday in Germany it was empty, I felt very sad however in Asia the churches are full sometimes you don't even get a chance to enter.
Sunday is christian, and ultimately jewish (the sabbath). It has nothing to do with paganism. Ceremonies were fit according to the cycles of the sun and moon, not set dates.
Thor doesn't have a birthday, because our gods are nature and the natural forces. Thor is thunder and the sky, he's not a person. Freyr is the fields and fertility. Frigg is the mother. Jörd is Earth. Aegir (a jotun) is the ocean itself, Njord is the god of sailors and fishermen.
There are three "tribes" or "categories" of gods in the norse/germanic pantheon. The Aesir are the ones we are most familiar with, and which have strong connections with other Indo-European pantheons (except for Odin, he's the odd one out who has no equal anywhere else, leading to discussions of his origin).
There are the Vanir, of which only a few names survive (Freyr, Freya, and their father Njord). They are more foccused on nature and magic, and may be the gods Scandinavians had before the Indo-European invasion some 3000-4000 years ago. The war between the Aesir and Vanir in the stories may reflect this was between cultures, where ultimately, the Aesir won as the "top gods", but the Vanir joined them as friends.
Then there are the jotuns/jötnar, often inaccurately called "giants" (though this has nothing to do with their size, same as dwarves - the word "dwarf" actually comes from creatures in norse mythology, and were not actually small). These are primordial entities of nature, similar to the titans in Greek myth (where an Aesir or Olympian is "the god of-", and depicted more like a person, the titan or jötun is more "THE THING" itself, like being the "sea itself" rather than the "god of the sea"). An interesting idea is that these are actually the original gods even before the Vanir, of our hunter-gatherer ancestors, while the Vanir were of our pre-Indo-European agricultural ancestors.
Crecganford has a good video on what the jötnar are.
Almost no one sacrifices animals today, because they don't have livestock and don't live in the countryside. But animal sacrifice is greatly misunderstood and was historically smeared by christians. All it is, is you slaughter an animal in the name of whatever god. The flesh is eaten, like any other time. The meal is blessed and shared with the gods symbolically. It's not much different than christians saying grace before a meal, or ritual slaughter of muslims and jews (though they refuse to adapt to current ways of humane slaughter and insist on using 1000+ year old methods, which we should not).
@@cookiesontoast9981 Not true, I know pagans who sacrifice animals. It's just slaughter for meat in connection with a ritual for a certain god, as our ancestors did. There's nothing wrong with it whatsoever.
Winter. Samhain is winter, not autumn. Winter.