how to diagnose p0a80 bad hybrid battery using dr.prius vs torque pro
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- In this amazing video we will see a quick example what and how to use these dr.prius and torque apps. check it out and i hope you enjoy.
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are you going to do a video about setting up the torque app like you had mentioned in this video? if you already have can you leave a link? thanks
Probably the best video on the subject I have seen to date. I will have to watch it again to take it all in again. Mahalo!
Great you liked it kurt... thank you...
I came here because scanner Danner, you have wonderful material, I have a question on this battery you recommended complete pack does not qualify for balancing, my question is the following 14.4 volts is nominal voltage = 50% soc? So I. This case you had some modules were .7v lower than the highest why not to replace only those modules are out side the scales , next question sorry for too much asking, what is the Porcentaje of voltage differences in between the highest= good to the lowest .4v? What Porcentaje 12% soc from nominal voltage or from máx voltage? Thanks
14.4 is 40% SOC.
Voltage diff over 6% will trigger P0a80 DTC.
Hope this helps 👋😀
You look just like Canelo
CANELO? what is that or who is that? 👋😎👋😎👋😎👋😎
@@hybridsolutiondiagnostics Mexican boxer canelo Alvarez, but is true😀
Hats off to you Jose. You are helping us all diagnosing issues with our HV Battery. God bless you man ! The best thing about you is that you do reply to most questions that are being asked by the community here.
Thank you for your support Fahad im very glad this content helps techs like you all over the world 👋😎👋😎
Hello.
How can i start the gasoline motor with a discharged hybrid battery ? Thanks a lot
YOU CAN'T... charge the HV battery first...
The other day, a light got left on in the car and it drained the auxiliary, battery replaced the auxiliary battery and the main highbred battery was replaced six months ago And now I’ve got a P0A80 and I can’t get the code to clear?
Hi there, did you figure out the problem?
Hi. Please answer this question 🙏!
I used the torque app on my prius. The car showed me the code P0A80. I clear the code. When I used the torque app and I tried to measure the lowest voltage, it goes up to -330 (negative 330). Am I doing something wrong?
Code P3013
Need help. Replaced 12v battery aux. Still comes uo as P3013
As a toyota tech, don't use this diagnostic method. P0a80 means take apart battery pack or replace
@@ImMrImportant 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hi i have 2011 Lexus rx 450h code poa7a. p oA78 i change inverter but problem still there now care do not move , please advise me what i have to do. thank you
Question replacement cost on battery pack for the Toyota Prius Prime 2023 model year?
Hola Jose, how did you come up with 6.5 v as a discharge unit talking about measurement? Does it tell you in the torque app what voltage you should discharge at? Gracias gracias
It should actually be 6v for a better and accurate measurement
Interesting. Very sharp analysis. Really funny how I can see a blanket possibly hanging over the fan intake in your video in the back seat!
Thank you for your knowledge. I'm waiting for the load testing , charging school video. I'm new to prius, but I was an aircraft electrician. I think I can follow. Cheers.
Could you please provide guidance on using the Torque app? There are several similar apps.
I have a 2004 Toyota Prius I'm checking with the torque app first block it reads like 15 and 1/2 volts and all the rest of them read like 320volts
Hello, with what force should I tighten the plates with screws and the frame?
Does the dr prius app works only on prius model or other EV vehicle?
Love your videos. I am interested in the training that you offer. How can I register and get started?
hello Jose. love your videos, but I would love to buy your course. where can I subscribe?
Your videos are the most informative and helpful. Thank you
Hi
Could u help me read the cells info from my Honda civic hybrid 2007 model with torque pro that would be great help
Perfect go no go assessment
You rock diagnostics
Thanks for uploading and sharing.
Excuse me, my car is a 2017 Toyota Corolla Levin.
used dr. prius detects that half of the battery packs are 30+ volts, and half of the battery packs are 16 volts. Excuse me, what is the situation?
I would be very grateful if you could answer me.
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Great videos my man!! Keep it up . I have ct200h just about out of factory warranty and this will help me see if I should have the batteries replaced before warranty is up. Do you have more classes on setting up torque for Prius? Thanks again
Thank you 👋😎 send me a DM via instagram for online classes details
Can you send me the info for the class?
I have a Launch scan tablet similar to yours (mine has a wireless dongle that stores in its base), but I'm a relative noob in using it. Thanks for the vid, I've installed both apps & now can't wait to play.
How do I get the cell pairs in the real-time dash layout in torque app? I dont see the cell listed as a sensor to add.
cna we need special obd for DR PRIUS and TORQUE ?? I HAVE LAUNCH SCANNER can i use his obd????
U need another obd man. Like the elm327 for example
Just refurbished a pack, and am still getting the same p0a80 code, along with the shutting off of the prius hybrid system.
On the dr. Prius battery test, everything checks out, and it says I have 85% battery life. The delta soc is @ 0% the bat Temps stay @ 98-102 degrees while driving around. The voltage diff is around .20v while driving, all block resistances are either 24 or 25. The cumulative delta voltage is from 1.5 in the middle of the pack to 2.8 on the sides of the pack. (Not sure what the norm is for this one).
The things that are sus, is
1. Hybrid system shuts off every few hrs of driving.
2. While decelerating, pack voltage spikes to 270v.
3. Block 6 does not move up and down. It just stays at the same spot most of the time, while all others are rising and falling constantly.
Is block 6 my problem here?
You have a delta over 1.2v my friend… clearly not good at all…
@@hybridsolutiondiagnostics just looked at it again. The cumulative delta voltage is the new feature in dr prius app. My range is 3.8-4.8 while I'm driving around.
As far as I understand it's the difference between a fully charged module to a discharged module. Should that really be under 1.2v? What is the norm?
@@Chemike21 Hi, were you able to resolve the issue?
No, I ended up getting a used battery pack. I didn't have time to mess with it.
@@Chemike21 good to know. Is the car running ok since you changed the battery pack? Thank you.
Thank you for very informative videos. In this video, at 5:29, and also later you mention “manually” charging the high voltage traction battery. Would you be kind enough to explain the procedure, and the time duration of the process. Thank you.
It is explained in the video my good friend... see it again 👋😎
Hello Jose thank you for all your amazing video. would like to ask you about my Prius 2011 I have a problem with the hybrid system it shows me on the screen the message check the hybrid system and I have the engine light on when I do restarat taken off the cable from the inverter for 10 minutes it comes normal for almost 4 -5 days and after that its come back agin I went to Toyota they told me I needed to change the battery . could please advise me what shall I do .thank you
Exactly what we doing in this video… check the DTC to document then clear it, and finally do the voltage drop test…
Why are there battery issues on such a new Hybrid Synergy battery? I have a 2004 Prius and the (NIMH) battery only failed at 160K/16 years. When it failed, with the red triangle of death, both Torque and Dr Prius clearly show that some of the 14 pairs voltage are worse. I pulled the battery and worked on all the individual modules (keeping them in the rails). The several that were below 7v I couldn't improve with DSCH-CHG cycles. The others were improved. I would NOT do anything inside the battery until the battery is red triangle or below 50% on a proper Dr Prius life expectancy test.
Smaller batteries like prius c or aqua give loose capacity a little faster specially here in the caribbean ☝️💥💥💥💥💥💥... hot weather as well as lack of service is the main reason
😂😂😂😂 dude you're a perfectionist you could still get 40-50 thousand miles out of that battery. Clear code clean fan keep driving.....
Clearing the code is actually a very big mistake and will kill the battery even faster 👊🤨
This is gold!! Thank you for sharing this information
30:30 best explanation.
How do I get this scanner
Hi Jose, May i know if You also use torque pro and generic ELM327 to handle hyundai/kia battery packs?
No you can’t
Is there a video which shows how to set up Torque Pro to diagnose & troubleshoot P0A80 code?
Seems a lot of people are asking for this but I have searched high and low and cannot find a Prius-specific overview re: how to set up views required to find out where the problem was.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Did you find a solution
Are you related to Canelo?
Thank you very much for this very useful video!
Hi, I need help with Dr prius app, when I do the full battery test, the firer part charging the battery, won't complete and doesn't go to 100% and I cannot go to the second step as well
I reconditioned the battery I checked before as well, I cannot complete the test.
What could be an issue, what you think it could be inverter??
Your kind feedback will help me to understand it.
Many thanks
Damn….good content. Invaluable info….just a day too late seeing this. Just ordered the prolong setup. Guess i can use it on the next battery.
Could you please let us know your experience with prolong. Thanks
@@ahmedal-hebshi549 work perfect, I use it one time for year
Is moving inner cell out good
Hi Jose, your video very good, Thanks, But I have a question could You tell me where can I buy the Hybrid cell scanner System, because my 2010 Prius the triangle light is on, I test all cell up to 8.2v but the vehicle is running, I guess some Hybrid cell the AMP it's too low,so I hop You could help me and tell me where I can buy this Scanner, Thanks Jose and Thanks Your video, Thank you very much.
Hi Jose, I have a 2020 C-HR Hybrid, bought the OBD2 adapter and Dr. Prius. Did the Full test and the Life exp. test, all passed. Bank Volt diff max 0.05v. All cell banks are good, SOC max 56%. I had a few times during the charging, the pack volts and banks went to RED. I wanted to pull the pack and service it but that would void the warranty. The warranty is finishing very soon, is there a way to get a service or repair from Toyota under warranty?
Hi, i downloaded tourqe pro app and tested battery voltage, block 10 drops voltage to negative 0.3 and jumps right back to normal, and keep doing it every few seconds until i run the test any advice please what could be the problem Thanks
Outstanding Video explanation of how to diagnose a hybrid battery, and the rationale for replacement. I'm going to buy the full replacemet with new high-capacity cells, 6.5 ampere hour. (all of them) Thank you for sharing your professional expertise and opinion.
go to project lithium and buy vastly superior LIPO cell instead for less money.
Thanks,
COOP
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Hi, pls advice on Prius gen3 how modules counts starting battery ECU contactors side.
Tks
My corolla cross hybrid bypass the full charge, when you press the brake and accelerator at the same time you need to press the accelerator to up to 25% but when you press more than 25% the car still charges, but at a very very current rate
What does it mean if one block isnt changing voltage? All the other ones are fluctuating up and down, block 6 is staying in one spot.
Also, when doing life expectancy test, the test stops when my charge level drops to 57%... why does it stop the test? Its supposed to discharge it to 40% isnt it?
My guess is that I have a bad module in block 6. The rest of the battery is still fine, so there is more charge, but one of the modules in block 6 drained faster than others, and it stops the life expectancy test. Could that be it?
Hello is there any app that can life expetency test for honda hybrid battery like for honda vezel ....
Any bidirectional scan tool will do so.
@@hybridsolutiondiagnostics details please.still confused
I read several people asking you what scanner you are using (the large tablet thing you are holding) but i don't see am answer from you. Is there some reason for not saying what brand it is or have i misread this? I would like to know. Thanks
Hello from Greece grats! love your vids ! I have 2 toyota hybrids . The one is yaris has 20% dr.prius expectancy test yay .bought it with bad battery do you think it is repairable by your experience or go for a new battery? Thank you
Jose what’s your scanner ? What is the best scanner under $3k for Hybrid Cars Toyota and Honda, inclusive the one that you use for doing the Brake Master cilinder of the prius 2013? Thank you boss
How do get these data to display on my scanner
Download the app and customize it 👋😎
Hello sir ... thanks for a nice video ... I have gone through a tough time this month ... I purhased a second hand japanese made Toyota Axio Hybrid Fielder 2014 in last December. This car had a Nickel Hydride battery installed in it and that too has a cell replaced. I have been told by various technicians that to repalce the battery with a used one but of latest models. Hence I have purchased a used battery but this time Lithum of 2020 model of a toyota hybrid car. The reason was that the newer ones are too expensive. I want now to test the old and a newer battery myself. What tools do you recommend or do you use? Please let me know so that once for all I satisfy myself and many others too. the tools such as volt meter, battery capacity tester, battery charger, battery balencer etc. thanks in advance sir. also sir could you please tell me how to know when a lithium battery was made by seeing on it or by reading the product code?
Why does my voltage on 12 blocks say -.03 ? O only 2 blocks have normal voltage.
Good job 👍👍 love from Bangladesh
How do we maintain our batteries, change the oil so to say on a regular basis? Should we move the modules around to share the heat in the middle with all the modules by moving them around every year? Is there an easy way to get airflow into the battery module area for cooling? Thanks for the video.
Check my other videos... very detailing explaining this for you 👋😎👋😎
Thanks For your good Work R u in USA
@@bvjazz1 no my friend... im in the caribbean 👋😎
Does these work with Prius+ too? Current supported model: includes Prius V. Is that with same than + minus extra seats? Thanks!
Prius 2013 when I disconnect the red safety plastic is it ok to open the bolts with no safety glow?
Thank you for having your very informative channel. Please help us. What is the best affordable scan tool for Toyota Prius?
أنت تقول الحقيقه ،لا نستطيع إحياء الميت أو تصغير عمر الكبير
I have a lunch x431 pro series and it's not scanning the battery what attachments do I need?
hola jose! gracias por tus videos son de mucha ayuda, tengo un 2007 camry hybrid el cual no puedo hacer que funcione correctamente, mi scanner me dice que block 2 y 3 no funcionan, ok, los cambio pero no resolvio el problema, los cambio de nuevo y esta vez remuevo todas las celdas y hago un load test, reemplazo todas las celdas mas bajas, las balanceo, todas marcan 8.2 volts, instalo todo de nuevo asegurando de limpiar terminales,etc nuevas bus bars y tuercas, y resulta que no se resuelve mi problema, uso dr prius y cuando monitoreo la bateria los bloques 2 y 3 suben y bajan en verde pero bajan hasta abajo en rojo, que puedo hacer? la luz roja en el dashboard ahora prende y apaga en intervalos de 10 seguntos mas o menos. gracias por tu ayuda.
Dr. Prius app has made this all in one now btw to anyone just looking.
In the country you live in, will the Toyota dealer sell you a new pack for $1950 U.S. dollars? Some here in San Diego will, and some won't , and some want more money. Because of a battery shortage, some dealers want to reserve their new batteries for the service dept, where they will make more money ($3400) installing the battery. I've had poor luck getting good batteries off of E-Bay. The last seller scratched off the manufacturing date. So I prefer to find a low mileage 2015 pack from a junkyard for about $800 and test those modules, especially for IR.
Check out Green Bean. They swap out battery packs for about $1500 when I did it last year. Had the Red Triangle 🔺️ of death. They came today and gave me another battery. I have free replacements for life.
Looking at the data, the "new" battery does not look much better, but hey they will replace it when it fails too.
Dr prius temp 3 is always shows higher on my battery i thought middel be higher what side is temp 3
Aft looking foward which battery cell in number one
Excellent plain and simple explanation.
Very good job Jose you are the best thanks lot
Thanks a lot my friend 🙏🙏✅✅👨🔧👨🔧
Thanks Again
Thank you for your content. Quick question. Can someone disconnect the hybrid battery? Will this prevent parasitic draw on the 210 volt battery if you don't drive it for 6 month and will it still be as strong as the last time you used when you reconnect it?
Just make sure to disconnect everything and leave the battery charged to 75% ... but if its an old battery it will be better just to recharge before restarting the vehicle...
@@hybridsolutiondiagnostics thank you. My hybrid battery died baceuse I've been away for months at a time. Now I need emissions done which is the only reason I want to fix it but when I think of the cost, it makes me think twice and see if there's away to prevent a repeat
You can remove the orange interlock near the battery.
Very informative as per usual keep up the good work
Thank you kurt...
great work ....thanks a lot
Thanks for the video! I was about to buy used camry hybrid 2015 with 41 percent SOC and i was told min is 35 and currently if properly maintained will run for min 5 years. So does this mean the battery is bad?
How to be part of the training program on hybrid batteries
Great video and simple an accurate information
Well battery still needs help, but the % you gave is off, you started the test with around 67% full charge.
It is obvious that a battery way out of balance will never charge to it's maximun... it is totally normal... ☝️🤔😪
Excellent
Nice
On a gen 3 prius which way do i count the blades?
Hi, which diagnosis tool are you using to check the hybrid batteries?
Hello, I replaced 3 battery cells in my 2006 prius. Upon hooking up the bus bars, I had them off on battery terminal and it sparked a couple of times before I could remove it. After connecting it up properly, trying to start the car, it gives me a red triangle of death. My orange relay switch is installed. Could I have damaged my ECM or something else? Thank you for your help.
Hi, have you resolved the issue?
Yes I resolved this. It did not damage the ECU or any other electronics in the car. Thank goodness
I started with an unbalanced bank #3 and #12. I replace them and the code came back on again performed the full battery check with Dr. Prius and again said unbalanced #3 and #12. Rotated with other cells and again #3 and #12 . HELP PLS!
Did you ever figure it out? I'm having a similar problem. Thx!
Keep it up Jose, your the best teacher. Can you please post the link to the master class
POA80 reconditioned battery replacement, twice now in two weeks. Have I been scammed?
P0A80 clearly stands for replace the battery pack... reconditioning a bad battery won't fix it at all...
@@hybridsolutiondiagnostics so... that's a yes?
Huh? Isn't the whole point to recondition the bat?
Jose, I have a 2015 Hyundai Sonata Hybrid, are there any pics for this vehicle in the Torque app?
I have had this vehicle for almost 4 years already, and in the last 2 years I have noticed the battery not lasting as long as it used to. I have taken the vehicle to 3 different Hyundai dealerships and they cannot diagnose unless there is a trouble code. I would also like to find a high voltage charger for balancing the battery just in case that is the problem. Can you recommend a charger that has over 270 volt capability?
Great video as usual👍
Thanks for sharing Bro, Stay Safe👍
Thank you so much Salman ☝😎☝😎
I replace #3and #12 and I the unbalanced again in the same I swapped #5 where 3
#3 was . Vice versa for #12 and code happened again. #3,#12. Was that about
Sounds like #3 and #12 no longer have the capacity required and the computer can sense this lack of capacity, doesn't matter where you switch it to. You have already identified the bad cells. You need to tear down the pack again. Then either cycle the bad ones with the proper charger or replace them.
Outstanding instructional video!👏
dr. prius works on your launch scanner?
do you have any input for a module that shows -15 to +14 volt fluctuation ?
Thanks for teaching an old dog a new trick.
great vid,,, thx for explaining this
Thank you...
lots of learning, thanks mate
What is the expected State of Charge for a Prius Plug-In?
This is great. New subscriber 👍🏼
Thank you for your support...