Bernie Eccelson is a total wanker biased againat Mansell from day 1. Nigel could have won that World championship 3 times. But unfortunate breakdown and burst tyres stopped him. He was a fantstic gutsy racer. Maybe not as "good" as Senna who, before he was tragically killed, had only 3 under his belt (Shumacher was but much more boring driver and has won more championships if that is what you need to be great)...the politics in this sport is rotten inside and out. Senna like Mansell and Gille Villnerve (sorry can't spell) putting their all in..proper racing. Not like today boring as hell.
Great stuff, Nigel Mansell was wrong to criticise Ayrton Senna for the spin in my opinion, the cars didn’t make contact with each other, I think Nigel Mansell spun off the track by himself and just wanted to have a dig at Ayrton Senna.
Darren Walton Piquet Won 3 times World Title, Mansell Loses 3 and Just Won in 1992 Because of the superior car, Piquet trash Mansell in his own team in 1987... Mansell is Just a name.
I'm not a fan of Mansell he is Britain's fifth best driver for me. In 1987 Mansell won 6 races to Piquet's 3 was faster in the races took 8 poles to Piquet's 4 out qualified Piquet 10-5. Piquet called his 1987 campaign as a victory of luck over stupidity Mansell wasn't a stupid driver but Piquet was lucky. Mansell should have won more championships but the same could be said of Piquet.
Darren Walton Luck is one of the necessary gifts of a Champion. Piquet suffered an accident this year, yet was able to score and win the Championship ... Consistency> Speed ...
Mansell, Senna, Prost, Piquet, Schumacher and the rest of pre 1994 F1 racing driver are the great guy who made the F1 great. All of them are great respectful driver (and I said this being a huge fan of Senna), and a sportsman is just an ordinary man, with all of this dumb dirty tactics and blaming others, emotions, rage (and the list goes on), and that made the pre 1994 F1 is great. Today's F1 is like a monotone symphony.
Wow, I was at this race sitting in the stands directly in front of this crash. Pieces of the wing flew over the crowd. When the race finished, and everyone crawled under the fence to rush the pits, I could see a couple guys picking up the pieces for souvenirs.
Idiota q batia sempre os tempos dele e o números de vitórias só 32 e foi campeão também dá yndi que Piquet tv um acidente e não tv mas coragem de competir
amazing how they hadn't got Mansell and the car out of the way by the time the cars came round again, then others cars went through again at full speed - pretty dangerous for Mansell, the marshall and other drivers. Wouldn't happen now
Some of the US TV commentators picked up on Nigel’s fantasy life , unlike the UK and Murray. Like the non existent white painted line that took him off at Monaco 84. And the false claim that McLaren blocked him from entering his pit at Estoril 89 - using it as an excuse over team radio to his team informing him he’d been black flagged then claiming he didn’t know he’d been black flagged.
You're so right, they thought the sun shone out of Mansell's arse. It's because the BBC were the the broadcasters for the UK specifically, but they also got beamed out to lots of other countries in the world too as they were the only consistent broadcast in English. This has caused people to blindly believe what they said. It's the exact same with Sky Sports now. It's why you'd hear Murray Walker randomly bring up people like Martin Donnelly or Mark Blundell on a way more consistent basis regardless of their position in qualifying/the race, over other drivers of different nationalities.
Mansell tried to brake late. He went to the dirty side of the track and overshot the chicane. It wasn't Ayrton's fault. Peter Warr thought Mansell to be "not that good after all." He had the right car and the balls to go all out and won a WDC. That's the way it goes. One of the British drivers who should've won at least a couple of WDC's was Watson. A shame. He was head and shoulders above Prost. Only he never had the car to match his skills.
@@ClassicFormulaOne1 Watson decimated Lauda when they partnered together. Watson was head and shoulders above Prost he just didn't have the cars that Prost did.
@@ClassicFormulaOne1 but that's not enough, though, is it? Watson, like Senna, fought for a championship in a piece of junk of a car. Prost had the second best car in 82 and lost to Rosberg. That year it was Watson who should have been the victor on pure merit. In the end Watson was head and shoulders above Prost on race craft, style and he was, in terms of speed, faster than the Frenchman, too. Prost, whilst very good, won from Mansell in 86 on a fluke, lost to Senna in the atrocious Lotus 99T in 87, lost to Senna again in 88 in the same car, and should have lost to Senna again in 89 were it not for Balestre. Lost to Senna again in 90, and was being soundly beaten in a dominant Williams by Senna in a lousy Mcl in 93. Watson never lost a race he should have won. He won five he never should have. He fought for a championship in a lousy car, when Lauda trailed behind in standings. He was a true gentleman driver who never crashed into a driver on purpose like Prost did on a number of occasions, like 89 with Senna at Suzuka. Watson is a driver of stature, Prost, though very good, is not of the same caliber as Watson.
@@globalawareness2009 if you think that Watson is one of the best drivers ever then im not going to try to chance your mind any further. Be aware however, your all by yourself in rating him higher then drivers like Prost or even Lauda. Not a single serious F1 analist ever stated such remarks or wil try to defend that opinion.
As a huge Mansell fan this incident was rather humorous. After the race Senna was asked about the incident between him and Nigel. "Senna said what incident? Nigel forgot that there was a corner coming up and after he passed me he would have to get on the brakes". That's why Nigel flew across that portion of the tracks. He simply out maneuvered himself by failing to control his car in the braking zone.
As much as I loved the guy as a racer, he was a right bad sport at times old Nige. Don't think I've ever seen a successful F1 overtake at chicane on Quebec wall before, if he tried a move on Senna there it was likely to have been very ambitious. Only thing I can think is that maybe Senna dummy moved to go into the pits and then carried on. Either way not the best place to try and overtake.
People criticising Mansell for "whining" as if he was the ONLY one who ever did it? LOL. They ALL did it.....especially the most successful ones. That's what MADE them successful. Self-centred, self-believing and selfish. Those are strengths not weaknesses in that sport....especially in that era of the sport because there were SO many great drivers.
Being a Senna fan, i know that Senna could be a jerk sometimes. But in this case, Mansell was very, very optimistic to say the least. To pass in this corner is almost impossible, unless the other driver lets you go. What he was thinking going side-by-side there?? Mansell was such a crybaby sometimes.
I liked Mansell for his uncompromising driving style. He was very fast and spectacular, the darling of the fans. Yes, he whined sometimes, but which driver didn't ? F1 drivers always blame others for things that went wrong. Self-criticism is not their strong point.
Hungary599 I agree. And people always try to point out the flaws of the drivers they don't like, and often forget the issues of their own idols. Schummacher fans criticise Senna, Senna fans criticise Prost, Piquet fans criticise Mansell. And most people don't understand that all these drivers were really competitive and willing to go dirty many times.
no no no, nós não criticamos o Prost, criticamos o Ballestre que sempre fez de tudo para ajudar junto com a FIA esse francês narigudo, em detrimento do brasileiro , vide Monaco 84, Suzuka 89 e 90, só que neste último o Ayrton foi esperto e botou o francês chorão para fora da pista
To stop the race in 1984 at Monaco was the Belgian Jacky Ickx's decision. He was responsible. Prost had a Porsche engine in the McLaren, and Ickx drove for Porsche in Sportscars at the time. It was rumoured that it was the reason why Ickx stopped the GP, while Prost was leading the race. What was wrong in 1990 at Suzuka ? Senna deliberately crashed into Prost's Ferrari, but he got away with it unpunished and won the championship.
Senna fez em Suzuka 90 a mesma coisa que Prost fez um ano antes na mesma pista, bateu deliberadamente no oponente, mas com uma diferença , Senna soube fazer de maneira que estava disputando posição com o frances, ele que forçou a barra e Senna não aliviou, no caso do francês em 89 ele jogou o carro deliberadamente em cima do Senna ,a prova disso é que se nao houvesse o carro do Senna ali o frances sequer faria a chicane, portanto 90 foi o troco muito bem dado do que houve em 89, o que irrita nem foi a batida pois até poderia ser considerada colisão de corrida, mas sim o circo que armaram depois para desclassificar o brasileiro, porque convenhamos, Senna voltar e vencer aquela prova foi uma completa humilhação ao francês e aos que o desclassificaram , o proprio Ballestre anos depois admitiu que fez pressão pela desclassificação para ajudar Prost
I was at this race so I caught the tv replay. Jackie Stewart was on the CBC coverage and made a hilarious observation that Mansell was quite "delicate"", often seemingly to be seriously injured only to quickly recover. Case in point here. Nigel could be very fast but what a baby sometimes.
Right. But I guess he suffered from some physiological problems. Do you remember Nigel's crash at Le Mans a couple of years ago? The crash looked like a quite normal one. Even the car didnt look too bad at all. Nevertheless Mansell suffered from massive head injuries which forced him to retired from motorsports. He even had problems to recall memories over a longer period of time (6 months).
I remember when he could not brake to skip the acqua minerale corner in San Marino and decided to deliberately drive straight through it in the training sessions. He was in Ferrari. Guess it was 90 or 89
There was no replay on the CBC coverage as they completely missed everything except Nigel's car on the track after he had gone through the kitty litter. I know what happened because I was there. My seats were just after the last corner in the last row of the grandstand in line with what they now call the "Champions Wall". It was just another instance of Ayrton being a little naughty.
@@thecommission6662 Not for this sort of thing, though. Only for incidents that would otherwise need a red flag. The tendency to use the SC all the sodding time grew slowly, like a tumour. In 1992, drivers slowed down when they saw the yellow flag because they wanted to live.
They definitely use the safety car too much these days. Mansell should have been pushed off the track, once all the cars had gone through here. These days he would be.
No, he wasn't. Everyone in the 80s drove the same way as his. If you have the preference in a corner you don't have to leave room for anyone. If you are already into a corner and someone wants late break to reach you with only 20% of his car, good riddance. I hope every bad driver who does that leaves the race alone and don't take the car ahead out with him.
+Darren Walton Senna was way dirtier than Schumacher ever was. Schumacher never took out another driver at 175 mph with 24 cars behind them rushing into the same corner like Senna did at Suzuka. World Champion Keke Rosberg would agree that Ayrton was the dirtiest driver in the car and that Prost was the dirtiest out of the car!
Ricardo Grande, Nelson Piquet destroyed Nigel Mansell????????????????????? Dear Sir, do you have two functional eyes. I think what you mean is the exact REVERSE. Hey, and I am actually a Nelson Piquet fan. Mate, go back to watching your Sunday afternoon synchronized swimming. Fazerman.....exactly summed it up "you fool. Thats the truth" hahaha great comment.
I know it's a six year old question, but for anyone else who reads perhaps... I had the old Nigel Mansell season review VHS back in the day where they showed some highlights of each race and then he'd talk about them. I can clearly remember that pretty much all he says on the incident was "he just took me out" and bemoaned that there wasn't any clear footage of what happened.
Growing a moustache doesn't give you the right to yell at others . Mansell was bloody quick but what was he thinking here going to Ron Dennis when it was his fault in first place
Mansell I believe did deserve to win more titles than he did. But Mansell unlike Senna, Piquet and a especially Prost didn't play politics to gain advantages. People love to speculate on what might have been, but to say that if that tyre hadn't blown or engine hadn't failed that person would have won is a big if. Who's to say they wouldn't have gone on to make a mistake and crash. One thing that does annoy me is when people try to belittle Mansell for the 92 championship because he had such a dominant car and yet few people criticise Senna for the 88 tittle when McLaren one 15 out of 16 races. No driver has won a title in a bad car. I also think Mansell showed how good he was with his switch to Indy car the following year. Although Indy car is considered second rate to F1, for any driver to do what Mansell did in joining a new team driving a car that was completely different to F1 cars, driving on unfamiliar circuits and in a car that wasn't totally dominant and then went on to win the title at his first attempt I think deserves a lot of respect.
Mansell was fast, but like Piquet said, he was flustered, made a lot of nonsense when he was behind another car. And you cant compare 1992 with 1988. Mansell had patrese as a teammate, and senna had a very difficult way with prost as a teammate. The same prost that was far superior to the mansell in 1990.
Jenson Button in a Honda powered Brawn 2009 ...just saying...champion in arguably NOT the best car on the grid..certainly the best run team OFF it though..
Oh, so Mansell, the poor man, did not play politics? I dont think so. Mansell was very fast, but was very stupid also. Thats the reason why he lost 3 championships he could had have won: lack of intelligence.
I totally agree!! Very well said. Nige is still my all time favourite F1 driver...he was a character who fought for his position in F1, he played to the crowd and was stupendously great racer.
The bottom line,like them or loathe them ,the fact is nigel was a great racer being very brave with it while publicly showing his passion and frustrations .It is no different from today apart from the fact that drivers now have to behave without being so outspoken or they will be out of a job ,just look at Lewis Hamilton.
I have always been (and still are) a fan of Alain Prost's and thus I never liked Ayrton Senna. but here, Ayrton did nothing wrong. Nigel overdid it and spun.
I'm a fan of both ... Senna and Prost... Those were magic days. History was made, and I believe that they pushed each other. Different styles... As a BrazilianI used to hate Prost, but the truth is that Senna admired him... He is the professor, and won driving against legends
e.mc2 not quite true, considering the late 80s to late 90s are widely considered the golden years of formula 1. The record of viewers was the 1995 season. Since 2010, f1 has lost over 40% of its audience. There was a slight rise of viewers in 2015 thanks to the nico vs Hamilton fight. So I think you need to do a little research
@Mike Jones I know what you mean, even though a have a slight problem with calling the 80's 'golden'. a death toll of four drivers in that era is too much.
Mansell memory. Nigel Mansell has explained that Ayrton Senna once admitted to being a "b*****d" following a season of hard-fought racing that saw him miss out on the World Championship. The two drivers shared plenty of memorable battles during the late 1980s and early '90s, with many coming during Mansell's title-winning 1992 season. Mansell's Williams car was the pick of the field that year but, in order to win his first and only title, the British driver would have to overcome a determined Senna. The Brazilian had won three championships in fours years behind the wheel of his McLaren, all while building a reputation as a fierce and unrelenting racer. But after Senna lost the '92 title fight, Mansell has revealed that the F1 legend approached him on the podium to justify his racing style. After Senna endured five retirements in just eight races, Mansell was crowned as the 1992 World Champion in Hungary in what the 68-year-old has described as a "mind-numbing moment". That race finished with the three title protagonists on the podium: Mansell, Senna and Mansell's teammate, Riccardo Patrese. "[Senna] wanted to win the championship but the most fitting moment for me was when I won the championship in Hungary - he was on the top step with me," Mansell told F1's Beyond The Grid podcast. "He turned to me and said, 'You realise how good a feeling that is now, don't you? Now you know what a b*****d I am, because that's the best feeling in the world'. "There are some people who would go to any lengths, especially if they've already won it once, to win it again and again. "There are some drivers I could mention who are true sportsmen and win it the right way, and then are a few others who definitely do not win it the right way, but they win it and that's all that matters. "To have Ayrton put his arm around me on the top step in Hungary and admit a number of things to me, I said to him, 'Well, at least you admit it!'."
Mansell here moaning for nothing. the overtake attempt was at the right place, but he breakes on the inside line on the dust at same spot as the laps before, thats why he spun off. Bernard Dudot from Renault made this declaration after this.
If Mansell was that furious there was something. I don't trust Senna, he could be dirty as we all know from 1990. And this race was his last slight chance in the title race.... Did anyone who was there see the incident?
Well, actually Mansell as a story of dirty and unfair moves second to noone. In 1990 at Estoril at the start he squeezed his teammate Prost against the wall, another time he was already disqualified but choose to stay on the track only to crash into Senna.
+Ambrogio Isgrò Both Senna and Prost deserved it. Senna for the countless times he raced dirty and Prost for stealing Nigel's car and then crying to the press when he needed Nigel's help!
According to Senna, Frank Williams invited him to talk about the "crash" between him and Mansell and Senna said that " I didn't know anything because our cars did not touch" He also said that "I think that when he (Mansell) perceived the problem he had created, he took his foot off the brake to accelerate again and cut the chicane. What happened, happened. His Williams flew through the air, landed on its nose in the gravel trap and pieces of the car were flying off as I negotiated the chicane.” Apparently Mansell was trying to pass Senna for a while and on lap 14 he managed to do so, but forgot to brake at the corner or at least drove into the corner to hot and basically crashed all by himself.
+Bakgrind Yes he crashed all by himself after Senna squeezed him into the kitty litter between the pit entrance and the final corner of Circuit Gilles Villenueve!
Mansell was overrated compared to Senna and Prost. In fact, he was soundly thrashed by Prost when they were teammates at Ferrari in 1990. That said, he still overachieved. Remember, when he first started, his team boss had such comtempt for him that he famously said he wouldn't win a gp "as long as I have a hole in my ass". With such an inauspiscious start - to wind up F1 World Champ, Indy Car Champ, over 30 wins, many poles, is not a bad record. Very good driver - not great.
😫 daddy he brake checked me 😩😫😭 😱red flag 🚩 red flag red red red red red red red red red red re….😮 oh wait .. it’s the fast idiot back in 1992 … nevermind 😟
Mansell was a quick, bullish, determined driver. Footage of these histrionics is entertaining for the viewers. I'm a big F1 fan and understand the passion and adrenaline drivers experience in a situation like this. But if I were one of those people on the pit wall getting pushed and shoved by Mansell, then I'd f***ing lay into him, I don't care who he is. Sports people need a big ego, but sportsmanship and decorum are also important.
Mansell, as always, a fast, furious, but dumb driver. That's why Nelson Piquet destroyed him. Nelson used his brains! Maybe Mansell was faster than Nelson, but he was dumb! He was a fast driver with no brains. He won when he had a car that was a billion times better than the others and his team mate was not a great driver. Sorry, that's the truth.
Piquet destroyed him? Did you watch any races in this period? Would you say the same about Senna and Prost when they had better cars than anyone else when they won their titles. The fact is you can be the best driver in the World but with an average car you will not win anything, thats the truth. Mansell deserved the title in 1986, pure bad luck robbed him. Can you remember who was Mansells team mate in 1986? I certain Nelson Piquet. Get your facts right before you post. Piquet was a very good driver, 3 times World champion says he was, but destroyed Mansell, no way.
you are wrong mansell had no chance remember adelaide 86 and suzuka 87 and what about his overtakes peratlada corner 90 and silverstone 87 and hungary 86?
Mansell & Vettel are same class = good drivers & whiners. Unluckily Mansell has 1 championship which is what he deserves..Seb has 4 which he doesn’t deserve!!
I love F1 fan boys who think its up to them to decide who does and doesn't deserve the titles they won. Maybe they shouldn't even race. They should just call you so you can tell them who wins and loses.
Nigel is such a cry baby !! He won 10 race in 1992, which is half of what he won during the 10 previous years of his career !! Without the well advanced race car he had this season he would not have been world champion. He was good up front, be in the traffic he worth sheet ! He came alongside Senna (who was the best on braking) and forget their was a chicane....and he went straight through the gravel. And then he complained about Senna who could not have touch him in this case because he was outside !!!
Nope. Senna was a massive CryBaby. You fanboy. Oh and Nigel won 9 out of 16 rounds in 1992. Get your information correctly before posting. Or you'll look like having no idea what you write about.
You say Mansell was bad at traffic? You really have no idea what you talk about. Tell me about Canada overtaking Prost on the traffic. Or Hungary 89. Stop showing you have no idea dude. Its ridiculous.
And oh no! Nigel Mansell has spun it around!.....uh oh, he doesn't seem to be moving...is everything okay?................. He's still not moving....oh my god...he's dead, he's dead! NOOOOO! Nigel Mansell is dead! Taken away from us way before his prime, oh wait, just kidding.
As Bernie Ecclestone said "Mansell only won one world title but he deserved many more Oscars"
Bernie Eccelson is a total wanker biased againat Mansell from day 1. Nigel could have won that World championship 3 times. But unfortunate breakdown and burst tyres stopped him. He was a fantstic gutsy racer. Maybe not as "good" as Senna who, before he was tragically killed, had only 3 under his belt (Shumacher was but much more boring driver and has won more championships if that is what you need to be great)...the politics in this sport is rotten inside and out. Senna like Mansell and Gille Villnerve (sorry can't spell) putting their all in..proper racing. Not like today boring as hell.
Elfwald Haha, fantastic. ^^ Yeah, Mansell was always the drama queen.
@@benjaminsidneykidd-bentley3966 100%
@Retro Lover 100%
For drama queens, the overrated Prost. There's a drama queen for ya.
Senna NEVER touch Mansell. NEVER
Even if he had it would have been still Mansell's fault.
Good that with such disastrous maneuver he didn't ruin Senna's race too.
How about in Australia 1992? Did he touch him then?
@@Mr18000rpm : it was a brake test from Nigel.. it was asked by his team..
yes, but not in this race😂
CBC decides to cut to a replay at the exact moment of the crash. Figures...
If they ever do a Nigel Mansell biopic, the only person I can see portraying him is Tom Hardy.
Great stuff, Nigel Mansell was wrong to criticise Ayrton Senna for the spin in my opinion, the cars didn’t make contact with each other, I think Nigel Mansell spun off the track by himself and just wanted to have a dig at Ayrton Senna.
i like both drivers, but is clear that Senna did nothing and not touched Mansell.
mansell really underrated but senna is the greatest of all time
"Mansell is a fast idiot" Nelson Piquet,
Mansell was faster and better than Piquet.
Darren Walton Piquet Won 3 times World Title, Mansell Loses 3 and Just Won in 1992 Because of the superior car, Piquet trash Mansell in his own team in 1987... Mansell is Just a name.
I'm not a fan of Mansell he is Britain's fifth best driver for me. In 1987 Mansell won 6 races to Piquet's 3 was faster in the races took 8 poles to Piquet's 4 out qualified Piquet 10-5. Piquet called his 1987 campaign as a victory of luck over stupidity Mansell wasn't a stupid driver but Piquet was lucky. Mansell should have won more championships but the same could be said of Piquet.
Darren Walton Luck is one of the necessary gifts of a Champion. Piquet suffered an accident this year, yet was able to score and win the Championship ... Consistency> Speed ...
Darren Walton A mediocre driver can win 1 or even 2 championships with a good car, but no mediocre pilot wins 3 ...
Disgusting behavior by Mansell. :|
Mansell, Senna, Prost, Piquet, Schumacher and the rest of pre 1994 F1 racing driver are the great guy who made the F1 great. All of them are great respectful driver (and I said this being a huge fan of Senna),
and a sportsman is just an ordinary man, with all of this dumb dirty tactics and blaming others, emotions, rage (and the list goes on), and that made the pre 1994 F1 is great.
Today's F1 is like a monotone symphony.
Wow, I was at this race sitting in the stands directly in front of this crash. Pieces of the wing flew over the crowd. When the race finished, and everyone crawled under the fence to rush the pits, I could see a couple guys picking up the pieces for souvenirs.
When ever Mansel had a incident he alwayg limped
Nelson Piquet disse: “ O Mansell é um idiota veloz”
Piquet dijo tambien que senna era un homosexual.
@Retro cuando fueron compañeros de equipo Mansell siempre ganó más carreras que Piquet y en 1986 sumó más puntos.
@Retro en 1987 Mansell tuvo mala suerte en algunas carreras como en Hungría
Idiota q batia sempre os tempos dele e o números de vitórias só 32 e foi campeão também dá yndi que Piquet tv um acidente e não tv mas coragem de competir
amazing how they hadn't got Mansell and the car out of the way by the time the cars came round again, then others cars went through again at full speed - pretty dangerous for Mansell, the marshall and other drivers. Wouldn't happen now
Mansell was possibly sulking or feigning injury for a lap, neither of which were out of character
Some of the US TV commentators picked up on Nigel’s fantasy life , unlike the UK and Murray. Like the non existent white painted line that took him off at Monaco 84. And the false claim that McLaren blocked him from entering his pit at Estoril 89 - using it as an excuse over team radio to his team informing him he’d been black flagged then claiming he didn’t know he’d been black flagged.
You're so right, they thought the sun shone out of Mansell's arse. It's because the BBC were the the broadcasters for the UK specifically, but they also got beamed out to lots of other countries in the world too as they were the only consistent broadcast in English. This has caused people to blindly believe what they said. It's the exact same with Sky Sports now.
It's why you'd hear Murray Walker randomly bring up people like Martin Donnelly or Mark Blundell on a way more consistent basis regardless of their position in qualifying/the race, over other drivers of different nationalities.
Mansell tried to brake late. He went to the dirty side of the track and overshot the chicane. It wasn't Ayrton's fault. Peter Warr thought Mansell to be "not that good after all." He had the right car and the balls to go all out and won a WDC. That's the way it goes. One of the British drivers who should've won at least a couple of WDC's was Watson. A shame. He was head and shoulders above Prost. Only he never had the car to match his skills.
Watson head and shoulders above Prost? Right...
@@ClassicFormulaOne1 Watson decimated Lauda when they partnered together. Watson was head and shoulders above Prost he just didn't have the cars that Prost did.
@@globalawareness2009 Prost decimated Lauda too on pure speed.
@@ClassicFormulaOne1 but that's not enough, though, is it? Watson, like Senna, fought for a championship in a piece of junk of a car. Prost had the second best car in 82 and lost to Rosberg. That year it was Watson who should have been the victor on pure merit. In the end Watson was head and shoulders above Prost on race craft, style and he was, in terms of speed, faster than the Frenchman, too. Prost, whilst very good, won from Mansell in 86 on a fluke, lost to Senna in the atrocious Lotus 99T in 87, lost to Senna again in 88 in the same car, and should have lost to Senna again in 89 were it not for Balestre. Lost to Senna again in 90, and was being soundly beaten in a dominant Williams by Senna in a lousy Mcl in 93.
Watson never lost a race he should have won. He won five he never should have. He fought for a championship in a lousy car, when Lauda trailed behind in standings. He was a true gentleman driver who never crashed into a driver on purpose like Prost did on a number of occasions, like 89 with Senna at Suzuka. Watson is a driver of stature, Prost, though very good, is not of the same caliber as Watson.
@@globalawareness2009 if you think that Watson is one of the best drivers ever then im not going to try to chance your mind any further. Be aware however, your all by yourself in rating him higher then drivers like Prost or even Lauda.
Not a single serious F1 analist ever stated such remarks or wil try to defend that opinion.
Ah, Mansell up to his usual theatrics. The man was a joke on the track.
Autosprint magazine published photos of the incident. It was very clear that Senna did NOT touch Mansell, it was his screwup!
@Sutanu Mondal of course, independent journalists know it better
@SimbaYoyo12 Vlogs, Gaming and formula 1 gravel pit
Senna's haters will go mad with that information
the point is that Nigel braked on the inside of that chicane where it was dusty so he lost control spunning off
As a huge Mansell fan this incident was rather humorous. After the race Senna was asked about the incident between him and Nigel. "Senna said what incident? Nigel forgot that there was a corner coming up and after he passed me he would have to get on the brakes". That's why Nigel flew across that portion of the tracks. He simply out maneuvered himself by failing to control his car in the braking zone.
@SimbaYoyo12 Vlogs, Gaming and formula 1 Well he flew into the grass at high speed...front wings does not approve that 😅
He had a little help from Ayrton!
As much as I loved the guy as a racer, he was a right bad sport at times old Nige. Don't think I've ever seen a successful F1 overtake at chicane on Quebec wall before, if he tried a move on Senna there it was likely to have been very ambitious. Only thing I can think is that maybe Senna dummy moved to go into the pits and then carried on. Either way not the best place to try and overtake.
What do you mean, a lot of succesful overtakes have happened in that chicane?
Mansel errou sozinho, não teve nada com Senna
Good that with such disastrous maneuver Mansell did not ruin Senna's race too. He did that in Belgium 87. Which later he admitted mistake.
Nigel was waiting on him in garage for a fair dig
He did it so in 87 in Spa, after his failed overtake took Senna out with him
People criticising Mansell for "whining" as if he was the ONLY one who ever did it? LOL.
They ALL did it.....especially the most successful ones.
That's what MADE them successful. Self-centred, self-believing and selfish.
Those are strengths not weaknesses in that sport....especially in that era of the sport because there were SO many great drivers.
Being a Senna fan, i know that Senna could be a jerk sometimes. But in this case, Mansell was very, very optimistic to say the least. To pass in this corner is almost impossible, unless the other driver lets you go. What he was thinking going side-by-side there?? Mansell was such a crybaby sometimes.
The golden years...
Sadly that this good Times gone
I liked Mansell for his uncompromising driving style. He was very fast and spectacular, the darling of the fans. Yes, he whined sometimes, but which driver didn't ? F1 drivers always blame others for things that went wrong. Self-criticism is not their strong point.
Hungary599 I agree. And people always try to point out the flaws of the drivers they don't like, and often forget the issues of their own idols. Schummacher fans criticise Senna, Senna fans criticise Prost, Piquet fans criticise Mansell. And most people don't understand that all these drivers were really competitive and willing to go dirty many times.
no no no, nós não criticamos o Prost, criticamos o Ballestre que sempre fez de tudo para ajudar junto com a FIA esse francês narigudo, em detrimento do brasileiro , vide Monaco 84, Suzuka 89 e 90, só que neste último o Ayrton foi esperto e botou o francês chorão para fora da pista
To stop the race in 1984 at Monaco was the Belgian Jacky Ickx's decision. He was responsible. Prost had a Porsche engine in the McLaren, and Ickx drove for Porsche in Sportscars at the time. It was rumoured that it was the reason why Ickx stopped the GP, while Prost was leading the race.
What was wrong in 1990 at Suzuka ? Senna deliberately crashed into Prost's Ferrari, but he got away with it unpunished and won the championship.
Senna fez em Suzuka 90 a mesma coisa que Prost fez um ano antes na mesma pista, bateu deliberadamente no oponente, mas com uma diferença , Senna soube fazer de maneira que estava disputando posição com o frances, ele que forçou a barra e Senna não aliviou, no caso do francês em 89 ele jogou o carro deliberadamente em cima do Senna ,a prova disso é que se nao houvesse o carro do Senna ali o frances sequer faria a chicane, portanto 90 foi o troco muito bem dado do que houve em 89, o que irrita nem foi a batida pois até poderia ser considerada colisão de corrida, mas sim o circo que armaram depois para desclassificar o brasileiro, porque convenhamos, Senna voltar e vencer aquela prova foi uma completa humilhação ao francês e aos que o desclassificaram , o proprio Ballestre anos depois admitiu que fez pressão pela desclassificação para ajudar Prost
We have to remember that they are tired, pumped on adrenaline and in "race mode".
there is clearly more to it than meets the eye
John Not really, Mansell made a mistake & then tried to blame Senna who didn't even touch him.
Anyone can figure out what he says to the Mclaren team members?
The first one he says 'he was gonna fuck his wife' i.didnt.catch the others
manoe jose then his prized Persian blue cat
マンセルはよく怒るよね、
モナコGPで「セナはフェアなブロックで抜けなかった」とか言いながら。
しかし日本語字幕が入ってるのに驚き。
2:07 Did Mansell show him (Senna) middle finger ?
Dominik Paradowski he did!
Nah, he was just telling Senna he was number 1
"Mister no brain " Mansell just forgot there was a corner coming up and try to out brake Senna the best guy on the brake ! Impossible move !
Oh you have more than him that has a degree? LOL. Mister M0ron.
I was at this race so I caught the tv replay. Jackie Stewart was on the CBC coverage and made a hilarious observation that Mansell was quite "delicate"", often seemingly to be seriously injured only to quickly recover. Case in point here. Nigel could be very fast but what a baby sometimes.
Right. But I guess he suffered from some physiological problems. Do you remember Nigel's crash at Le Mans a couple of years ago? The crash looked like a quite normal one. Even the car didnt look too bad at all. Nevertheless Mansell suffered from massive head injuries which forced him to retired from motorsports. He even had problems to recall memories over a longer period of time (6 months).
I remember when he could not brake to skip the acqua minerale corner in San Marino and decided to deliberately drive straight through it in the training sessions. He was in Ferrari. Guess it was 90 or 89
There was no replay on the CBC coverage as they completely missed everything except Nigel's car on the track after he had gone through the kitty litter. I know what happened because I was there. My seats were just after the last corner in the last row of the grandstand in line with what they now call the "Champions Wall". It was just another instance of Ayrton being a little naughty.
@@Mr18000rpm explain what happened then, how was senna naughty?
I think Senna gave mansell a little brake test...
Why mansell was angry? He spin himself whitout senna contact,so...
overtaking senna was not easy to stay in front impossible to get out or hit the driver was simply the best. go out to the mansell
Hell, those were real competitors!!
Safety Car! In the year 92 we dont need safety car 🤣
The following year they did.
@@thecommission6662 Not for this sort of thing, though. Only for incidents that would otherwise need a red flag. The tendency to use the SC all the sodding time grew slowly, like a tumour. In 1992, drivers slowed down when they saw the yellow flag because they wanted to live.
They definitely use the safety car too much these days. Mansell should have been pushed off the track, once all the cars had gone through here. These days he would be.
And we were faster tha 88 mph!!!!
safety cars were not mainstream back then
Senna was famous for moving around in braking zones
But, not on this occasion.
Ain't they all
That's a defensive move, a lot of drivers does that, is that dangerous? Yes it is, but that's racing
vettel did in mexico 2016
No, he wasn't. Everyone in the 80s drove the same way as his.
If you have the preference in a corner you don't have to leave room for anyone. If you are already into a corner and someone wants late break to reach you with only 20% of his car, good riddance. I hope every bad driver who does that leaves the race alone and don't take the car ahead out with him.
Allart Kalf
"Nigel was a lovely man, a caring family man when he was out of the car but once he was in the car he was a total arse to work with."
True.
Saudades Saudades coisa que nunca mais volta primo
O Ron Dennis quase que apanhou do Mansell .
F1 raiz , carro parado no meio da pista e a corrida pegando as ganha ,hoje é um peido na arquibancada e já entra o saffety car
Senna did more dirty tricks in his days than any other driver in history. Since he died, everyone has forgotten that (very) bad behaviour
hunt2727 Schumacher did worse.
+Darren Walton Senna was way dirtier than Schumacher ever was. Schumacher never took out another driver at 175 mph with 24 cars behind them rushing into the same corner like Senna did at Suzuka. World Champion Keke Rosberg would agree that Ayrton was the dirtiest driver in the car and that Prost was the dirtiest out of the car!
Mr18000rpm Schumacher purposely rammed into Damon Hill and villenueve just to win titles. Thing is it didnt work on Villenueve
Ricardo Grande, Nelson Piquet destroyed Nigel Mansell????????????????????? Dear Sir, do you have two functional eyes. I think what you mean is the exact REVERSE. Hey, and I am actually a Nelson Piquet fan. Mate, go back to watching your Sunday afternoon synchronized swimming. Fazerman.....exactly summed it up "you fool. Thats the truth" hahaha great comment.
He sure destroyed him at Silverstone 1987; I don't think I've ever seen anything like that since. 30 second lead goes poof, just like that.
Drama queen
Mansell is worth shit in my eyes!
Did Mansell ever cover that in an interview.. ?
I vaguely remember that accident.
Veyron640 Not as far I know it was totally Mansell's fault Senna didn't even touch him.
+Veyron640 I was there in the start-finish grandstand. Senna squeezed Nigel into the kitty litter. Simple as that, just Senna being Senna.
@@Mr18000rpm you lie ) senna hater)
I know it's a six year old question, but for anyone else who reads perhaps...
I had the old Nigel Mansell season review VHS back in the day where they showed some highlights of each race and then he'd talk about them. I can clearly remember that pretty much all he says on the incident was "he just took me out" and bemoaned that there wasn't any clear footage of what happened.
Growing a moustache doesn't give you the right to yell at others . Mansell was bloody quick but what was he thinking here going to Ron Dennis when it was his fault in first place
Los ingleses no les gusta perder en nada, eso sí, son los reyes de la trampa
Mansell fumbled as usual.
i dont see that senna touched mansell adelaide 92 is ayrton fault
Mansell I believe did deserve to win more titles than he did. But Mansell unlike Senna, Piquet and a especially Prost didn't play politics to gain advantages. People love to speculate on what might have been, but to say that if that tyre hadn't blown or engine hadn't failed that person would have won is a big if. Who's to say they wouldn't have gone on to make a mistake and crash. One thing that does annoy me is when people try to belittle Mansell for the 92 championship because he had such a dominant car and yet few people criticise Senna for the 88 tittle when McLaren one 15 out of 16 races. No driver has won a title in a bad car. I also think Mansell showed how good he was with his switch to Indy car the following year. Although Indy car is considered second rate to F1, for any driver to do what Mansell did in joining a new team driving a car that was completely different to F1 cars, driving on unfamiliar circuits and in a car that wasn't totally dominant and then went on to win the title at his first attempt I think deserves a lot of respect.
Mansell was fast, but like Piquet said, he was flustered, made a lot of nonsense when he was behind another car. And you cant compare 1992 with 1988. Mansell had patrese as a teammate, and senna had a very difficult way with prost as a teammate. The same prost that was far superior to the mansell in 1990.
Jenson Button in a Honda powered Brawn 2009 ...just saying...champion in arguably NOT the best car on the grid..certainly the best run team OFF it though..
Oh, so Mansell, the poor man, did not play politics? I dont think so. Mansell was very fast, but was very stupid also. Thats the reason why he lost 3 championships he could had have won: lack of intelligence.
I totally agree!! Very well said. Nige is still my all time favourite F1 driver...he was a character who fought for his position in F1, he played to the crowd and was stupendously great racer.
The bottom line,like them or loathe them ,the fact is nigel was a great racer being very brave with it while publicly showing his passion and frustrations .It is no different from today apart from the fact that drivers now have to behave without being so outspoken or they will be out of a job ,just look at Lewis Hamilton.
Back in the day, if you lost it, you'd have to work pretty quick to not end up stalling.
I have always been (and still are) a fan of Alain Prost's and thus I never liked Ayrton Senna. but here, Ayrton did nothing wrong. Nigel overdid it and spun.
He sure did
This incident was totally Mansell's fault Senna didn't even touch him.
I'm a fan of both ... Senna and Prost... Those were magic days. History was made, and I believe that they pushed each other. Different styles... As a BrazilianI used to hate Prost, but the truth is that Senna admired him... He is the professor, and won driving against legends
e.mc2 not quite true, considering the late 80s to late 90s are widely considered the golden years of formula 1. The record of viewers was the 1995 season. Since 2010, f1 has lost over 40% of its audience. There was a slight rise of viewers in 2015 thanks to the nico vs Hamilton fight. So I think you need to do a little research
@Mike Jones I know what you mean, even though a have a slight problem with calling the 80's 'golden'. a death toll of four drivers in that era is too much.
How many annoying Fanboys here, huh? Looks like they are always arguing... 😂😂😂
Mansell memory.
Nigel Mansell has explained that Ayrton Senna once admitted to being a "b*****d" following a season of hard-fought racing that saw him miss out on the World Championship.
The two drivers shared plenty of memorable battles during the late 1980s and early '90s, with many coming during Mansell's title-winning 1992 season.
Mansell's Williams car was the pick of the field that year but, in order to win his first and only title, the British driver would have to overcome a determined Senna.
The Brazilian had won three championships in fours years behind the wheel of his McLaren, all while building a reputation as a fierce and unrelenting racer.
But after Senna lost the '92 title fight, Mansell has revealed that the F1 legend approached him on the podium to justify his racing style.
After Senna endured five retirements in just eight races, Mansell was crowned as the 1992 World Champion in Hungary in what the 68-year-old has described as a "mind-numbing moment".
That race finished with the three title protagonists on the podium: Mansell, Senna and Mansell's teammate, Riccardo Patrese.
"[Senna] wanted to win the championship but the most fitting moment for me was when I won the championship in Hungary - he was on the top step with me," Mansell told F1's Beyond The Grid podcast.
"He turned to me and said, 'You realise how good a feeling that is now, don't you? Now you know what a b*****d I am, because that's the best feeling in the world'.
"There are some people who would go to any lengths, especially if they've already won it once, to win it again and again.
"There are some drivers I could mention who are true sportsmen and win it the right way, and then are a few others who definitely do not win it the right way, but they win it and that's all that matters.
"To have Ayrton put his arm around me on the top step in Hungary and admit a number of things to me, I said to him, 'Well, at least you admit it!'."
Berger finished on the podium in Hungary, not Patrese.
Nossa ele ficou muito bravo
Mansell here moaning for nothing. the overtake attempt was at the right place, but he breakes on the inside line on the dust at same spot as the laps before, thats why he spun off. Bernard Dudot from Renault made this declaration after this.
C'est quoi ce titre à la con?
What Senna did?
Dear god that was a stupid move. No chance that this could work. In second why didn't he left the car? In third: He should have left Ron Dennis alone
No wonder he made sure Mansell's fat arse couldn't fit the 1995 McLaren cockpit...
😂😂😂
@@MacGovernor Hahaha^^
mansell was a great driver, but a major crybaby too
As Senna u mean?
Wayhey gwan Nige
If Mansell was that furious there was something. I don't trust Senna, he could be dirty as we all know from 1990. And this race was his last slight chance in the title race.... Did anyone who was there see the incident?
clearly Sennas fault. he did push Nigels middle pedal when there was no need. yeah, there was something. good logic.
sargatanas88 I feel people won't understand your irony
Pedro Milhome or even sarcasm
Well, actually Mansell as a story of dirty and unfair moves second to noone. In 1990 at Estoril at the start he squeezed his teammate Prost against the wall, another time he was already disqualified but choose to stay on the track only to crash into Senna.
+Ambrogio Isgrò Both Senna and Prost deserved it. Senna for the countless times he raced dirty and Prost for stealing Nigel's car and then crying to the press when he needed Nigel's help!
I love Nige, but Senna was driving that Mclaren, why go and start shoving Ron Dennis?
what happened?
According to Senna, Frank Williams invited him to talk about the "crash" between him and Mansell and Senna said that " I didn't know anything because our cars did not touch" He also said that "I think that when he (Mansell) perceived the problem he had created, he took his foot off the brake to accelerate again and cut the chicane. What happened, happened. His Williams flew through the air, landed on its nose in the gravel trap and pieces of the car were flying off as I negotiated the chicane.” Apparently Mansell was trying to pass Senna for a while and on lap 14 he managed to do so, but forgot to brake at the corner or at least drove into the corner to hot and basically crashed all by himself.
thanks mate...
Simple, Mansell made a mistake & then tried to blame Senna who didn't even touch him.
+Bakgrind Yes he crashed all by himself after Senna squeezed him into the kitty litter between the pit entrance and the final corner of Circuit Gilles Villenueve!
Nigel spun
Man, if i was Ron Dennis, Mansell would leave the pit lane with a broken nose for touching me like that.
Hahahaha yeah as if Dennis could beat Mansell that was way stronger. If Dennis touches him Mansell destroys the fck out of that pr*ck.
Mansell was overrated compared to Senna and Prost. In fact, he was soundly thrashed by Prost when they were teammates at Ferrari in 1990. That said, he still overachieved. Remember, when he first started, his team boss had such comtempt for him that he famously said he wouldn't win a gp "as long as I have a hole in my ass". With such an inauspiscious start - to wind up F1 World Champ, Indy Car Champ, over 30 wins, many poles, is not a bad record. Very good driver - not great.
Gee, what a baby
Furious!
ALONSO.MCLAREN.F1.
2018.
why is fault of Senna?
javier garrido It wasn't Mansell made a mistake then he tried to blame Senna who didn't even touch him.
Mansell had such a great car he can't imagine he can also make mistake. He didn't believe and blame Senna.
we didn't see anything...why is he blaming Senna?
Nico Montinola Because that what Mansell does. Mansell tried to out brake Senna, but he got it wrong & then tried to blame Senna.
@@thecommission6662 nope
Well you say it. We didnt see a thing. So we can not comment on facts that we can not see.
Yes.
@@thecommission6662 yeah,well NOPE.
Mansell was a great driver but also bit of cry baby
Well look at Senna
Inglesa nervosa.
Long story short: Berger will only win if Mansell and Senna crashes. That is the way to become champion.
cry baby, cry
Yeah senna was
The Beatles.
rodou sozinho
I'm slowly loosing respect for Nigel Mansell
Andy Rouse Bit harsh
lol, it only took you 25 years......
Alright. Who cares?
😫 daddy he brake checked me
😩😫😭
😱red flag 🚩 red flag red red red red red red red red red red re….😮
oh wait .. it’s the fast idiot back in 1992 … nevermind 😟
Mansell, while a very good (perhaps great) driver, was always a whiner of the first order. Nothing was ever his fault.
same with Senna
And Schumacher, actually of that generation, the only one ever admitting a fault from time to time was Prost.
timmy001 Senna just never apologized for his aggressiveness.
ball of steal mansell
mexico 90' when he overtaked berger
Yeah a real whiny little bitch. He was not great, he just filled a spot and got lucky 92.
Mansell was a quick, bullish, determined driver. Footage of these histrionics is entertaining for the viewers. I'm a big F1 fan and understand the passion and adrenaline drivers experience in a situation like this. But if I were one of those people on the pit wall getting pushed and shoved by Mansell, then I'd f***ing lay into him, I don't care who he is. Sports people need a big ego, but sportsmanship and decorum are also important.
Mais uma vez Senna jogou sujo colocando Mansel pra fora , não foi a toa que Mansel erguei o braço e mandou Senna tomar naquele lugar !
A para mano, Mansell vive a chorar é um chorão profissional !
Did You guys know that some people said that Nigel mansell is cheating controlled by computer controls but Ayrton can over take him himself
He didn't cheat, in 1992 driver aids were legal in F1.
Mansell, as always, a fast, furious, but dumb driver. That's why Nelson Piquet destroyed him. Nelson used his brains! Maybe Mansell was faster than Nelson, but he was dumb!
He was a fast driver with no brains. He won when he had a car that was a billion times better than the others and his team mate was not a great driver. Sorry, that's the truth.
you fool. Thats the truth.
It is
Piquet destroyed him? Did you watch any races in this period? Would you say the same about Senna and Prost when they had better cars than anyone else when they won their titles. The fact is you can be the best driver in the World but with an average car you will not win anything, thats the truth. Mansell deserved the title in 1986, pure bad luck robbed him. Can you remember who was Mansells team mate in 1986? I certain Nelson Piquet. Get your facts right before you post. Piquet was a very good driver, 3 times World champion says he was, but destroyed Mansell, no way.
m5 .
you are wrong mansell had no chance
remember adelaide 86 and suzuka 87
and what about his overtakes peratlada corner 90 and silverstone 87 and hungary 86?
He could have got back in the race looked like very small contact to me.
LOL Super Mario very angry
That senna again...
Mansell said after the 1992 season anyone could become a F1-champion in his superior car with active suspension.
He did NOT.
Acidente de corrida normal.
Nao.
Mansell & Vettel are same class = good drivers & whiners. Unluckily Mansell has 1 championship which is what he deserves..Seb has 4 which he doesn’t deserve!!
I love F1 fan boys who think its up to them to decide who does and doesn't deserve the titles they won. Maybe they shouldn't even race. They should just call you so you can tell them who wins and loses.
Estoril/89, Australia/92, Canadá/92...
Dick Dastardly era implacável contra Mansell! Rsss
Dick Dastardly; now that's a blast from the past.
Nigel is such a cry baby !! He won 10 race in 1992, which is half of what he won during the 10 previous years of his career !!
Without the well advanced race car he had this season he would not have been world champion. He was good up front, be in the traffic he worth sheet ! He came alongside Senna (who was the best on braking) and forget their was a chicane....and he went straight through the gravel. And then he complained about Senna who could not have touch him in this case because he was outside !!!
Nope. Senna was a massive CryBaby. You fanboy. Oh and Nigel won 9 out of 16 rounds in 1992. Get your information correctly before posting. Or you'll look like having no idea what you write about.
You say Mansell was bad at traffic? You really have no idea what you talk about. Tell me about Canada overtaking Prost on the traffic. Or Hungary 89.
Stop showing you have no idea dude. Its ridiculous.
Mansell cacete
People are going to blame Mansell because the other person to blame is Senna. As always
SEMPRE FOI UM PÉSSIMO PILOTO.
Senna? Yeah. A wanker
супер
And oh no! Nigel Mansell has spun it around!.....uh oh, he doesn't seem to be moving...is everything okay?.................
He's still not moving....oh my god...he's dead, he's dead! NOOOOO! Nigel Mansell is dead! Taken away from us way before his prime, oh wait, just kidding.
Amusing how Senna fans are calling Mansell a crybaby. They were both emotional guys. Not a bad thing to be, ESPECIALLY for a racing driver.
Out of sight Senna basically drove him off the circuit.
Actually, no he didn't.
Mansell made a mistake, then tried to blame Senna, who didn't even touch him.
you were not parile for Senna only won by had Senna better car was always much better your crying
Yeah senna always cry or crash.
Bollocks.