Thrashin' Revisited: The Daggers' Unlikely Origins
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- Did the creators of Thrashin' attempt to model a mainstream film after early skate videos? Or is this just another cheap Shakespearean '80s love story (e.g., Valley Girl)?
Thrashin' (1986), directed by David Winters and written by Paul Brown and Alan Sacks, played for exactly one weekend at my local Mann multiplex. Since its premiere, the skateboarding-themed teen romance drama has become somewhat of a cult classic.
Under Thrashin's cheesy layer, some hints of brilliance appear, from the soundtrack featuring Fear, Circle Jerks, Devo, and early Bangles and Red Hot Chili Peppers, to talented stunt doubles like Lance Mountain, Tony Alva, Christian Hosoi, Eddie Reatagui, Natas Kaupas, and countless others.
Most noteworthy of the film, however, is the still untold origin story of the "Daggers" skate gang.
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Here’s some little known info about Brolin for you. He comes from my town Santa Barbara and was good friends with our very own mighty contribution to punk rock RKL, Rich Kids On LSD. He actually really did skate so he knew how way before the movie Thrashin. He also dabbled a little with drums and it’s rumored in old punk rock lore and legend that he may even have played with RKL once or twice in the early punk scene. It’s good he went into acting and saved his life. Sadly RKL and a shooting gallery filled with the old Cito rats, almost all of us skate punks from that bygone era when skating was anti everything are either dead, prison, mental hospitals or junkies barely hanging by a thread knowing we should’ve died way back then and gone down in flames in youth history forever to be spoken about in shudders and whispers by the ones that were really there. The ones that still bear the scars we inflicted on them in the dark alley ways of the 80’s LA /California scene. The ones who knew how dark it really was back then. The kind of darkness that would give birth to punk rock fury. I’m one of those kids at heart still, the only difference is I’m cursed to barely hang on by a thread. But at least I can put on Thrashin and even though that movie was nothing like real life it helps the memories I have come flooding back and I get to live again. Forever young, forever punk, forever free. Skate or die.
Keep on keeping on mate. A lot of us Scottish kids from back then adopted the skate or die / punk rock ethic too and some of us looked to California and specifically Venice Beach as a sort of urban skate-surf-spray painted paradise where you could skate on quality concrete all day and hang out at the beach because of the scene and the beautiful weather (since half our life consisted of looking out the window to see if the rain had stopped or cruising the towns to find sweet skate spots). But I guess the grass is always greener on the other side, and heaven only exists "somewhere else". The dark side of the kind of stuff you are talking about is something we didn't get to see too much. But maybe we just chose to see the sun and the surf and the scene and, more importantly, the street skating. I still get the board out now and again, still watch skating on TH-cam, still watch Animal Chin and Public Domain and all the rest, and still drool over what would be great spots on my travels. And still think...skate or die! Although now it's probably more a case of...skate before I die!
Only WE know how good it was though! And that's something you never lose. And I hope to fuck I never will!🤟😔✌️
Thats a great comment. Brolin has popped up in a couple of Loveletters to Skateboarding episodes, he seems like a genuine good guy. Cheers
This shit is super touching I really like Brolin I love this movie brings back so much nostalgia skated for over 30 years it was a pain in the ass LOL
His mom is Barbra Streisand and he was in the goonies ...amongst many other movies, have a great day🙂
@@larryl392 Stepmother i believe🙂.
As an English teacher and someone who has skated since 88, I think that this critical analysis is absolutely on point. Thanks so much for taking the time to put it all together. I thoroughly enjoyed every second of it.
"As an English teacher"..... hahahaha... what a cringe 'flex' !
@@adambane1719 i was thinking the same thing man lmao
@@adambane1719lol you look. Since when is being an English teacher a 'flex'..? He's giving the content creator his props for having a take that has some merit based on being a skater and an academic. Teachers don't even get paid that much. You must work a convenience store counter or something.. get a life...lol
Brings back so many memories. Thrashin' and Gleaming the Cube were key movies in youth. Strong work!
I mentioned Gleaming the cube in my comment as well 🤙🤙🤙
I worked on Gleaming The Cube and skated Del Mar with all the Pros”ya gotta luv the 80s
Corey had cockroach style
Yes they were! Gleaming was even more respected in my area than Thrashin
Plus Police Academy 4
my Dad brought a vhs copy of Thrashin home for me in 1992 when I was 8 years old. I watched it almost every day that summer before trying to learn how to ollie. I still watch it at least once a year, it's the best!! If you are able to find a copy of the DVD I highly recommend buying it, movie commentary with Alan Sacks- Steve Olson-Robert Rustler and Josh Richmond is well worth the purchase
The thing to remember is that Thrashin’ was filmed in 1986… so after Back to the Future, but before the major boom of the late 80s and the hey day of Powell, Santa Cruz and Vision. Only two (2!) skate videos had been released by then. It was really based on the early 80s scene and things changed quickly after this point. As a reflection of the time it’s not far off.
It is a semiglamourized portrait of reality- as u pretty much just said. When Circle Jerks Wild in the Streets comes blaring on- if you didn't want to skate AND listen to punk rock- you'd have to have been braindead! Much love!
just hope that scientists discover a way to create a legit hoverboard some day since you mention Back to the future
More than 2 skate videos had been made at that point: 1) Bones Video Show 2) Future Primitive 3) SkateVisions 4) SGI Sure Grip Int. Summer Sessions 5) Del Mar & Upland contest series. Probably more (Schmitt Stix?) these are just some of the ones I can think of at the moment, all pre- 1986.
@@marcusprince3999there were no doubt more...Alva had released 1
@JimmyHandtrixx Right. Also, Gullwing- 'Molecules of Motion' Maybe even Skull Skates(?), Then you had the 'Curb Dogs' 'Skateboard Super Stunts. Maybe these were after Trashin? Doesn't matter, I listed off enough of them in my other reply. I was always surprised that G&S didn't put out a video in the mid to late Eighties!🤷♂️🤙
I skated at the Del Mar Skate Ranch a few times before it closed, it was pretty awesome. Whenever we went there, you’d usually see Cab, Steadham, Hawk and Hosoi among others there. Also Rodney Mullen would be in the freestyle bowl. People would usually gather to watch them skate. Fun times and I miss it.
was it there or upland that had like 4 ft of "vert" that was past vert? when i watch videos and look at pictures it seems like it would be easy to do until the day came i was standing in the deep end of a pool that still had a puddle in the bottom.there were these local ocean city md guys that were tearing it up and grinding. i was a little intimidated at first. to say the least.nobody told me about the whole weightless thing that happens.
The best skateboarding movie hands down! Discovered the vhs of it at a flea market in 2002 and was curious so I bought it for 25 cents. My friends and I used to film each other acting out the scenes when we would go out and skate like "CHRISSY I'M GOING OKAYYY!" 🤣🤣 This was super well done bro I wish it never ended. Gonna share it around!
I started skating in 1986, I still skate to this day. I appreciate this narrative 🙏
Me, too, and I'm 49 years old. Skating with my son on the weekends now. What could be better?
Thrashin is the best man... it inspired me to skate... and I still skate to this day! Thanks Thrashin!
Thrashin and Police Academy 4 had me hooked as a kid and like you I'm still at it. Good on you, cheers
@@finnmcginn9931 ....wasn’t tony hawk in that movie as a stunt double? Have a great day🙂
Chew knew it Man! Sk84life!
Wow, I'm a self-declared 80s skateboarding connoisseur and I knew (or noticed) less than 10% of the things you included here. Just the one-foot 180 power slides by Natas comment (yeah, he did them in both 'Wheels on fire' and 'Streets on fire') made the video worth-watching. Amazing.
those are easy to learn .just put your front foot on the bolts.they deid blow my mind back then though. natas was so overlooked and underrated
Thrashin’ and Rad were two great movies from youth!
i forgot all about rad no way
Add the movie North Shore and you have all 3 that built our childhood love for extreme sports 🤙🏻
@@jacklandon9739 Yes!!! Man, I Love North Shore! I remember when I first saw the trailer on TV with Mia Peeples and the guy from Teen Wolf and Flight of the Navigator (Matt Adler), I was stoked. That time was so amazing!
Also, the original Point Break, BMX Bandits, The Dirt Bike Kid.
this was a damn fine review. well done!
161,000 views. 352 subs (including now myself)
High quality review. No ridiculous intro, good voiceover. Keep at it man. I just watched Thrashin' for the first time and this review was a great capper.
Agreed. This review was insightful and to the point. I never thought of the marketing angle which is so dominant in films now.
As a teenager I loved Thrashin in the late 80s. I had no idea how authentic it was, but I knew it had something I wanted. Great movie (despite the terrible dialogue)
Sweetest TH-cam video I've come across in awhile. I'm 40 and discovered this movie at around age 4 or 5 thanks to my cuz Scott who got me skating around the same age. I still enjoy this film. Timelessly unique- this video is why TH-cam rules and tv drools
“I’m certain this is Natas Kaupas” I guessed that too by the fact he’s ollieing wayyyyyyy higher than everyone else.
Thank you for posting this. I’ve been looking for years for any info on Thrashin’
This dude deserves more followers. Well done, sir. It takes me back.
This is a great video. Quality copy and narration. I enjoyed it, thanks!
That was very insightful. Hopefully this dude makes more content.
I remember going to see this flick when it came out at the now torn down, Westland Mall in Lakewood, CO. off of Colfax. I skated there with my two best friends and my newly acquired Hammerhead deck i saved up for by mowing lawns. Every seat was sold out to a kid, and every single kid had a board in hand - and no parent in sight. Can you imagine, a theater and every kid in the seat had a big bulky board with them? It was a sight to see and wonderful memory. At the very least it is absolute 80's skater fashion GOLD (even if it was suburban Hollywood wardrobe). It's great historical documentation from a short glimmer at a very specific time in American teen pop culture.
Great video bro. I started skating around 2004 so it was long after that movie but in a way all us skaters have the same experience and watching skate videos from other eras somehow still make me nostalgic for my own.
This was awesome and so spot on. Nice work!!
Thank you for this analysis. Please ponder Dagger origin stories and share them with us.
I'd say the Daggers are more inspired by The Jaks than anything, the Jaks were a punk skate gang from the 80's, who even used jeans vests and all. Duane Peters was a honorary member of The Jaks and Tony Alva also hanged out with them. I suggest you to watch Steve Olson's interview at the Nine Club, where he mentions the producers of the movie called him and Dave Hackett with the idea of making a movie about them, and wanted them to help work on the script to get the lifestyle right. I'm calling bull**** at this chick gang theory. I think a skater girl gang would be pretty cool, but this gang is clearly inspired by The Jaks.
The "chick gang theory" is straight from the horse's mouth. Paul Sacks discussed, during a May 29, 2011 Thrashin' post-screening Q&A, that the idea for the screenplay was inspired by an LA Weekly article about the Hags. There's no way he could have missed it as the article in question shares the page with a review of Sacks' movie "duBEAT-e-o".
@@breadandcinemas6996 I got it, i guess maybe the chick gang sparked the idea, but i still believe the whole concept of the gang was designed after the Jaks, even at the scene where Robert Husler does a backflip at the truck's wall and falls on the skateboard, there's a Jaks graffiti at the truck, check it out. I guess if he really was inspired by the girl gang he would put a girl gang in the movie maybe? There's plenty of female badass bikers gang movies from that era, it wasn't something unusual. I also believe If the Jaks weren't an inspiration, he wouldn't go after Olson and Hackett who were skate punks to get their help and support.
thank you sir for your analysis of this really fun nostalgic movie to watch!
Great essay! And many thanks for "The Midwestern prom queen, at a ne'er-do-well gathering" 🤩
This video is incredible! Thank you!
very nice video. thank you so much!
I don't even remember 99% of this movie but what I do remember is that it was one of only a few hollywood movies that depicted skateboarding in the 80s and to 80s kids that grew up in that era it was everything... Even at the time Thrashin was a budget movie and felt dated to us where as Gleaming the Cube kind of influenced the generation with it's bigger budget and fancier skate scenes filmed with the likes of Tony Hawk and Rodney Mullen...
Shit Tony Hawk, Natas, Caballero, I can't even remember all of the pro skaters that are in Thrashin' also. But I admit that I did(and still do) like Gleaming the cube better. But have a love for both because it's from my childhood.
@@luciuskapahs5547 Absolutely bro.. The 80s in a nutshell. If I had Doc Browns Delorian that is where I would go first...
@@knifeknerdreviews4609 gun it back to '88 🤘🤘🤘
Dude, you really did a great job researching all these "fun facts" about the movie! I grew up in this era, and though this movie is certainly corny to watch now it was one I watched many times over with friends as a kid. It'll always have a special place in my heart, like many 80s movies. I appreciate you making this! Cheers. ⚡️🤘⚡️
That movie inspired the hell outta me as a kid. I bugged my mom to rent it over and over again, along with the couple of Powell videos at our small town VA video store. I felt i had outgrown it by the time Gleaming the Cube came out, however. Such a simpler time.
That Ricky line was perfectly inserted
This was an awesome essay. I probably haven't seen Thrashin' since I was a kid and had completely forgotten Brolin was in it. I wouldn't see any of the Powell-Peralta skate vids until my mid-20s, and never knew about Thrashin's connection to Future Primitive.
A true classic and still holds up. Seen it in theaters when it first came out with my Pops (RIP) 🍿
This was such a fantastic piece‼️McTwist & Shout‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
Great job, you did it justice. I learned a few things too!
You killed that narration
I used to watch this movie when I was 12 years old and it came out on VHS. Ahh the Golden Era of skateboarding and entertainment. I would identify every skater in the movie haha Powell Peralta for Life!.
For me I was in the mix in the 80’s: skateboarding , going to punk rock, go-go, hip-hop and reggae shows, spray painting and goofing off! Didn’t pay NO mind to these films (Gleaming, etc.) but then I had kids and watched them on “Movie Night”, when video stores were still a thing, and it was corny as heck but still “wholesome” enough for us as a family.
I did my best to not emulate self destructive behavior and teach my kids about counter culture yet not being entrenched in any type of way that bespoke following the herd. To me skateboarding was a tool in my kit that was fun, active, rebellious and exciting - a culture that as much as I identified with parts of it, I couldn’t get down with the destructive components that seem to be some of what I’m reading in these comments.
Bless Up to all the elders that came before us 70’s-80’s kids, our contemporaries and to all the youth coming up nowadays - y’all are the “game changer’s”!!!!!
Great vid man I watched this movie a shitload back in the day and tons of skateboarding related stuff anything skateboard related wish I could skate now but my legs just aren't with it enough. Love the scenes and music in this movie it really does have a fantastic vibe!
Well done.. I was there and a part of this in SF during all this. Still have the VHS copy.. Thanks for the memories..Skateboarding is not a crime…..
you were part of the film?
Cant believe this had an Underachievers clip in it 🤯
Something makes me pop this in the vcr all the time as background vid , this movie is my childhood
Very cool dive on this vid.
It's always been about that skating, we always knew the acting was cheezy. Stacey doing all the scenes, all the downhill stuff was awesome. Hosoi boneless off the top off a car 6:09...... priceless
Shame 2 waste a classic dodge charger!
@@anjinsanx44 where did you see a dodge charger?
Wonderful narration
This and "Gleaming the Cube" 🔥🔥🤟😍
I grew up in Jersey. I knew Biker Sherlock. He was nuts. We would party hard Jersey Shore.
Unfortunately he committed suicide.
If ANYONE who reads this post..
If your having thoughts of self harm. Please reach out for help. Suicide is a permanent solution for a temporary crisis..
Stay strong people.
One love!
True dat 👍
I was 12 in 86, this movie ruled and I still skate (poorly). Great video, cheers
we went to different schools together
Thanks for this video . I started skating in 1980 and went til 2001 . This brings back so many memories of the best years of my life as I’m in my 50’s now and neuropathy from the diabetus has left me barely able to walk even. I will have to redouble my effort to find this movie on DVD. Btw I would give anything to have a pair of ox blood red vision street wear hi tops again.
Good stuff. Keep it up!
What an excellent piece on Thrashin. As a skater since the 70s, and with fond memories of the 80s reseurgence and this film, I say you nailed it. Especially @13:14. They absolutely would have skated the ramp violently. Left a mess, and maybe spray painted a big penis on it or something but def wouldn't just burn the ramp to the ground. haha Thanks for sharing!
I saw that movie in the 80s as a kid and started skating for over 3 decades - huge influence on me
Shot at the Foxhills mall love it!!!!!!! I can see why Hip- Hop n Skating has it's parallels it was and has always been from the inside it's own thing.
Josh Brolin.. Goonies to Thrashin, American Gangster, and No County For Old Men.. How time flies Damn.. I was 7 years old in 1987 when this came out.. I was so in love with Chrissy played by Pamela Gidley who sadly died young..
Loved this one!!! Couldn't remember the name!
Epic skate knowledge. Ricky oyola opening clip from ee3 made me smile
I made the most perfect Corey Webster spiders skulls and bones replica.
Even with the Jeff Grosso deck.
It’s epic.
you deserve more subs!
Here’s a little more info on Brolin, he is one of the friendliest actors(and best)I’ve ever met, in fact he walked over to me and introduced himself. Hope to see him again!
The shot of the Daggers cresting the hill is iconic. It was definitely copied in Christian Slater's Gleaming the Cube when him and his crew go out to avenge his brother's death
Yes, the urban skating in this film was important. A lot of us (poor) kids didn't have access to ramps in the 80s or afterward, which required money or handy dads. We just skated whatever we found and loved it.
Funny how freestyle is the heart and soul of modern street skating, Rodney Mullens existence is the reason modern skating is still a thing. Skating in the 80's in Chicago was a metal thing, not a western surfer thing, we found that s**t hysterical. Our attitude was, if you can't fight, f**k or skate to it don't bother!
Dude. Ever heard of Mark Gonzales or Natas Kaupas? Those guys were actually skating in the streets while Rodney was standing on his skateboard(not even rolling) inventing tricks. I hate this myth. Yes Rodney invented a multitude of tricks, but he is absolutely not The Godfather of modern street skating. That would be Mark Gonzales who actually skated in the streets. Rodney wouldn’t even skate a normal sized board until Rocco ordered his freestyle board to be focused. He’d still probably be standing there doing freestyle tricks fully padded.
@@rnfr wrong!
Second hand smoke set it off...
Appreciate it!
Great video! I love this movie
perfect. you nailed it.
Awesome video respect
Soo good👏🏻👏🏻
Cool vid and walk down memory lane. Even back in the mid 80s the movie had its cringey parts but there's some cool stuff like the chili peppers and bits of Venice beach and pro skater stunt doubles etc.
This was great, thanks for sharing.
PS- "dont drink that, foul" 😂
i still think about that line when there is something questionable in my fridge
@@chrhadden 😂 me too especially OJ 🍊
When I first saw this movie at the video store and rented it, watched it and had fun! But I couldn't figure out why Radley only wore socks but no shoes. You look at his skate double and he has on socks over his shoes. And then seeing this video on Thrashin' the curious state of Radley and no shoes has come back into my mind. What the hell is radley doing.
Those handful of Jaks were a diabolical move 😂 The US Bombs named a song after them.
Watched this at least 10 times a week back in the 80s
We rented this VHS so many times, that we must’ve wore the tape out?
Although huge in CA it was huge in Indianapolis especially College Park and north in Boone County. A lot of half pipes!
Way to give the SD concourse some ❤.
To this day, I have no idea what those jousting weapons were. I always thought it was a whoopie cushion attached to a handle. Maybe filled with rocks because of how it was able to break Corey’s arm.
The backwards trucks were sent on purpose by kieth hufnagel (rip) since his friend worked on set and needed a complete. That's also his pro deck
According to his Weekend Buzz interview, Huf knew Elf director Jon Favreau. He does not say who assembled the trucks incorrectly by I assume it wasn't someone at DLX (unless it was a joke on themselves).
Totally spray painted my Lance Mountain board white after seeing the white deck in this movie. LoL. Remember this was pre internet days and even though we teens were "real" skaters some things we saw in this weird movie we emulated. I had Thrashin on VHS, DVD and now HD streaming. It's a GREAT movie for what it is AND a total look at how the world looked then. I wasn't in Cali...and we sure rocked some Veriflex and Kryptonics completes. They were cheap and serviceable.....and I still love Kryptonics to this day but I'm no Alva and never was. Great video. Really enjoyed it.
I was a kid that was wrapped up in the skateboarding and the BMX freestyle crazes and yeah we were pretty much starved for any mainstream images doing the craft professionals doing the things the only other outlets were those skate videos like you said and you could see it
Well said, and put. I like how you got the first back to the future scene right. I see a lot of newer youtube skaters use the clips from Back to The Future 2 which came out years later. That first movie sparked a lot of kids to skate including myself. Nobody in that era thought thrashin was legit, it was the only skate video at video rental stores back then. My friends who skated which was like only 2 people always thought it was lame. Skating was new back then and I for one didn't want people to think skating in 1987 looked anything like thrashin. By 1991 skating had progressed so much and was still looked down on by everyone. If only people saw videos like Animal Chin, or better yet Video Days a few years later skating would have been looked at differently back then. I was still skating when questionable came out, I mean skating was DEAD DEAD in 92. Its crazy that skating has become what it is. Being a guy who started in 86, skaters got so much shit back then. It was so misunderstood. Now it's the future and it's weird to think such a thing exists still. Glad it has survived and it's changed. I still skate and it's weird to skate and have people not care. I'm always expecting the cops show up, but they drive by and wave hello.
Luckily, the clerk at our local video store skated so he ordered every skate video he could find. Nevertheless, footage was so scarce that I would record local news segments about skateboarding or watch Police Academy IV just for its 3 minutes of skate clips.
we used to get 50 dollar tickets all the time
Started in 85-86 and the real weirdness is several of my friends from skating ended up being cops... from being chased and harrassed to being the man.
Fright Rags is putting out Thrashin shirts. Dropping 7/18. 🙌
That Thrasher magazine from 1986 with Mark Gonzales on it and the interview with him inside was the first skateboard magazine I ever had. I was from a wave of kids that all got into skateboarding in the late 80’s and skateboarding became so popular and mainstream that most of the kids who skated, including myself, didn’t really relate to all the punk rock music stuff at the back of the magazine. I guess before it became big it kinda appealed to misfits, but around that time so many normal kids who also played sports and did normal things got into it, including myself.
yeah you were called posers remember?
@@chrhadden a lot of those kids, including myself skated every single day, and I continue to skate a few times a week, so no no one called me or them that. As well, ask Nyjah Huston or Daewon Song how much punk rock they listen to? I’m guessing it’s close to zero. It was mostly listened to by older skater from the 70’s and early 80’s. I knew some my age who were into it, but in reality it’s a mix, many do, many don’t.
Wasn't smart or an athlete, just a low income punk rock kid and skating was everything...miss those days.
old vert legend steve olson (not be confused with shorty's steve olson) played one of the daggers. he talks about it in-depth on one of his appearances on THE 9-CLUB... lots of interesting behind-the-scenes info...
We used to love watching Thrashin just to count all the continuity breaks. Fun movie for skaters back then. "... I'm classy, I swear... I know him."
Loved this movie when I was a teen.
god this movie was so rad as a kid
I loved this movie and Rad too!
I always thought Smash skateboards scenes were just like a parody of Powell Peralta skateboards and George Powell always trying to innovate.
Loved it! Does weirdly balance a classic movie plot with the punk attitude of skating. Yeah, the canyon battle 🤣 pillow on a stick is right!
Good eye, didn't notice the early 80s pig shape at the smash skateboards factory trying to be passed off as modern tech but i always thought it was strange he mentioned polyurethane wheels as they been around since the 70s, really made the smash skateboard owner to be a bad salesman selling out dated products he knows little of. I would love to see your analysis of Gleming the Cube in a future video
I was maybe 6 or 7 years old the first time I saw Thrashin' sometime in the late 80s So for me I'll always love the movie, especially since I became a lifelong skater (definitely not because of this film but I'm sure it had a small influence at the young age) but I've gotta say that "Gleaming the cube" (even though just as cheesy) is definitely the better of the two.
Awesome !
T/A rules!
Grosso forever
much respect for catching that Natas move in the walk of fame seq;)I also think it was him even though he ain't credited in the skate doubles I believe.
It helps that there were far fewer pro skateboarders during the 1980s (only a handful of those could ollie a curb in 1986) and they all had very unique styles. In a 1988 Thrasher interview, Natas also talks about his negative experiences working in both Thrashing' and Gleaming the Cube.
hes so cool he probably was to shy to see his name on the screen.i still think that guy is from outer space
Fantastic jam packed info here but the delivery could have used 5 or 6 jolt colas.
I predict this video will blow up....have a great day👍
I'd be way into a The Hags pov film! Theres heaps of queer and womxn skate crews these days but somehow we're still getting shit like mid 90s and whatever the hell mikey alfred is.
Skate kitchen and skater girl?
@@vancouverbill both sweet films, and yeah heaps happening in indie film as well, we had a doco premiere at the local last month
Try being queer in the mid-80's knowing how to thow hands was a must....things are better these days but we were crazy skids.
My brother and I watched it many times in the 80's,. Yes wheel cut outs, where no longer popular by the time the movie came out.
I think I can confirm that's Natas just based on the trucks. They have a triangular hanger shape in late 85 or early 86 at the latest. Stage V Indys with the triangular hangar shape aren't available until 1986. Stage IVs and back have a different T shaped hangar which you can see all throughout the movie. The trucks that Natas would likely be skating would be Thunder Stage I which had both the triangular hangar and the extra meat roll similar to the Indy "Built to Grind" design. No other Thunder would have that detail after the Stage I which is replaced by the Stage II in 1987.
You’re right. It was he.
Why do I think this is also Natas in the Suicidal Tendencies (1984) video at 10:58, I think by this time he was already tied to the industy (yet relatively unknown) via Skip Engleboom (Santa Monica Airlines).
Good detective work. It's interesting that Natas skates his own setup, while Lance uses the Corey prop board and Cab clearly skates Radley's Alva. For some reason, he's also uncredited.
@@breadandcinemas6996 I dunno, him being in the vanguard of the burgeoning street skating movement (he is associated with Gonz from that time), he may have considered it prudent not to associate himself (publicly/overtly) with a part in what may have been perceived by some of his contemporaries as a "lame" skateboard movie. Hell, it even looks like he is donning a wig in the movie. i.e., he is willing to get the paycheck- but wants no other association that might damage his street cred (especially among his peers).
By the time of Mike Carroll's EMB squad in the 91-93 era - a movie like "KIds" might be more acceptable to be associated with (like Harold Hunter.) You get a sense from interviews with Gonz (and others) from the mid to late 80s that they were very cognizant of what was "cool" (cool in terms of those who were or at least considered themselves hardcore, not mainstream "cool"). TLDR- I 'm guessing he felt (at the time) that he would take the money- and would prefer his name not be on any credits on the film- that could technically be there forever. I feel like later- with a film like "Gleaming the Cube," he probably had matured and recognized it was preferable to strike while iron is still hot (mature enough to see the shelf life of his skate career).
i liked the thunders inverted king pin which up until then i went through a king pin every few months and about the same time i found out about thunder bolts which i also never broke.its messed up when you have to carry your board home a piece in each hand