Hey BTBRV, first-time commenter, and long-time subscriber. First of all, I love your channel and think your video's and presentation are awesome. I have no issue scrubbing through videos if I feel the need to skip anything... so keep up the great work. This is also pretty humbling to see all the comments on this fifth wheel as I own this exact one. For me and my family, we absolutely love it (to each their own, I guess). I do agree with some of the comments that this isn't really set up for full-timing based on interior storage and use of space, but for us the layout is perfect for us. We do RV quite a bit (this is my third RV) and it's our primary tool for vacationing, long weekends, etc (we use it a ton). The large kitchen and living room make it awesome for entertaining and having guests. There is a nice slide out pantry next to the refrigerator and plenty of counter space in the kitchen (we love to cook). I guess the video doesn't show that very well. The basement storage is off-the-charts as well. I like to bring a-lot toys with us to keep the family entertained and it's perfect for that. I also completely removed the door to the washing machine for easier access (and we use it with no problem). That huge slide-out storage tray in the basement is priceless. Once again, love your channel and keep up the great work!
I love the floor plan! Nice and open. Love the spacious dinette in the front. I love the private bedroom in the rear. I don’t like it when you can see the bed from the kitchen. I could live in this full time!! Thank you for the informative video.
Enjoyed the video, thanks! Really like when you mention and discuss the better made and quality parts that should have been or could have been used or upgrades we would probably want and the pros and cons of all the important RV parts like the cable slide vs. the other type slide systems, the tire brands, the frame design, the axles, etc. Keep up the great work! Happy and safe RVing, Prost🍁🌻🍁
I love the layout of my 2016 375fl. It's laid out very well. We have done quite a few upgrades including led diffuse lighting, lto battery banks, 1000w of solar panels, backsplash, finishing the trim work properly, resealing the shower. Etc. The kids love it, And with the master bedroom in the rear I can't hear them at night lol.
Thanks for that another great review !!!!!!! I have never seen a floor plan like that , that’s an awesome layout, I’m looking for a full time RV , that’s perfect ..
It’s a very nice layout and depending upon where you camp and the views the Forward Kitchen could be awesome. That being said I’d love to see this floorplan essentially flipped with a mid bunk added in. I could also see in that layout flipping the kitchen to be on the lower level (meaning you don’t have to haul all your food up a few extra steps) and the living room elevated at the back. The negative there is likely less than ideal TV viewing.
For full time, a pantry would be nice. Free standing table and chairs a must for me. Bedroom is too cramped. For me, the lay-out is wrong. Will work for others though.
You should come down to Australia and check out what we would call caravans. Aussie caravans and American RVs seem to be quite different. I think you'll like em
First, love the information and the tours. I like the airy feeling and the dinette. Love the big living room area. I am really thrown off by that weird kitchen sink. I know it’s a double sink but where it is placed makes it look like it’s just slammed in there as an afterthought. As much as I like the dinette, I’d give that up for a better sink placement. Another thing, the strange placement of the cabinet in the bathroom. Just weird that it’s placed on the bent wall. Finally, I CAN NOT deal with a laundry hookup in the bedroom.
I love the kitchen but what I prefer about the front living version of this is the bath and 1/2 and the ability to section off the guest sleeping area in the front so you don't have to wade through people sleeping to get to your morning coffee. Also, the main bathroom in the FL is much bigger.
I heard people say slide outs are bad to have. Cause the seals around the slide outs go bad quick. I live in a 40' 5th wheel camper. And it has no slide outs. I been living in it for 15 years. Never had leaks any where. Ask why I live in it. Will if I wanna move. All I gotta do is put up the sewer drainage pipe. Water lines and put up the power cable move the jacks and then hitch it to truck. I had neighbors say u wash ur clothes. I am like dam yes i do it has a washer and dryer in it. It's the stack up top kind. Never had a issue with them. I removed the gas stove. And installed an electric stove and oven.
My parents bought a brand new 20th Anniversary Montana and have had a number of issues after just a few trips. LED tail lights filled with water, front rubber belly cover support bars fell off due to 8 corroded bolts. Kitchen faucet snapped at the base, rear end cap separated from both driver and passenger side at the seams and auto level system had to be replaced. Good thing they got a lifetime warranty.
Doubt they will either. Still waiting on the tail lights to be replaced. Stealership said it would take 8wks to get in after they ordered them. Pretty ridiculous, but because of the warranty, there’s nothing they can do but wait and hope the lights keep working since they still head out every month.
You’re killing me! Every time I see an RV like this I want to just sell my house and go full-time mobile… Just have to convince my wife to get rid of the darn dogs! 🤣
Every Manufacture needs to learn to flip the doors on the shower. For me, its difficult ducking around the toilet or cabinet especially when you have a metal leg. Large step up showers suck also.
Nah the shower door is in the locked position or "travel position" in the video, theres a clasp that keeps it from moving and breaking. When you're all set up just unlatch it and itll slide all the way to the other side.
@@newdles0028 Think you missed what i said. The small section does not move. That section is usually on the side thats away from the toilet. Every 5th wheel and camper ive been in with showers like this have always put the door where you need to squeeze by the toilet or counter to get in instead of the other way. Its a pain in the a**! Also, huge step ups in showers suck. When i gone in for cancer treatment and my surgery, the step up always sucked as its usually a good 8in to 12in up step.
16500 GVWR and can only carry 2760 pounds of cargo? In a 42 foot trailer? Man, my 39 foot fiver had 5K in cargo capacity. My current 21 foot TT has 2K in cargo capacity. Keep in mind this thing holds nearly 600 pounds of water with the water heater, and another 60 pounds of propane. 2K pounds of stuff seems like a lot, but it really isn't - especially considering the massive storage areas it has.
The problem I have with most of the Montana and like models is the sum of the axle ratings is as much as 2,000 pounds less than the GVWR. So the owner, maybe not understanding, thinks the trailer can weigh 16,000 (roughly) pounds, when in fact much above 14,000 and one or both axles are overloaded. Manufacturers need to step up and put 8k axles on the those. High end trailers do in fact match axle capacity to GVWR, unfortunately these mid-range trailers don't.
Don't wanna be blown away. Just anchored safely at some of the beautiful and well managed and designed campgrounds throughout USA free from noisy nuisance pets, smelly dog poop, cats creeping all over the place, nutty loud people, alcoholics, loud motorcycles and vehicles, speeders and thieves.
Sounds like you need at least 100 acres of land to put yourself in middle of it, put up fence around property line with no trespassing signs and live happy ever after as hermit.. problems solved
@@gregsall5872 Just not into cohabiting or shacking up with filthy stinking farting creatures loaded with all kinds of lice, mites, fleas, ticks, germs, bacteria etc. and that just want food and procreation. I'll go visit a zoo or farm if I feel the need to touch an animal. Or watch them in nature like feeding from our bird feeder, listen to the pleasant songbirds, owls and occasional howls from dog coyote.
Good video of a more expensive 5th wheel, but I was wondering if you could do some high dollar horse trailers with large luxury living quarters??? Possibly show the difference in build quality compared to 5th wheels... I’ve been looking into these trailers for a toy hauler, because it seems that the build quality is superior to most 5ivers... also seems with the opposing slides, and lower profile it would be more efficient to hear, and cool...
I like lots about this 5th wheel, but do have some concerns regarding weights.. it shows 16500 gvwr on 14k worth of axles, dry weight of 13690. So it almost at max weight for axles rating before anything is added. I realize that some weight will transfer to truck when traveling, but just trailer sitting on 2x7k axles, wouldn’t that be stressing out the system just parked? Wish they use 3 axles... I see lots like this and it confuses me on how to watch weigh limits so not overloading rig abilities. If one takes it to 16500 would that be 2500 more then axles can handle? If you can clarify my understanding of it, maybe I’m missing the whole concept of the weights. 🤷♂️
The kitchen could be laid out much better, not a fan of the beach style table. Table and separate chairs is much nicer. The gray tones and cabinets would brighten the place up. Most people these days use I pads to watch tv instead of the giant television on a he wall. And it would be great to have the washer dryer (separate) in the kitchen😊
I am going to pretend those low ceilings in the bathroom and bedroom are why I am not going to get one. Besides that the front kitchen, mid living room is a cool set up.
didn't like the floor plan. I'm sure some folks will. It's just that I don't like 2 step up levels which leaves a cramped living room. A raised kitchen level doesn't seem practical either, especially if you have to carry food up and down into the living area. Another thing I don't like that manufacturers do is placing seating so that if you're sitting on the side, you have to crane your neck to watch what's on the screen. I imagine some folks would end up with a stiff neck after a while. For the size of this RV, the interior seems awfully cramped and I, personally, could not live in it as a permanent dwelling.
Many units have the leveling jacks hanging very low to the road even when retracted. This one looks that way. Has anyone had scraping issues with them like this?
My 2019 Arctic Fox 27-5L has the auto-leveling and I too was concerned about scraping of the rear jacks. But if you draw a straight line from the bottom of the rear tires to the bottom of the bumper the levelers are above that line. We have used our fiver6 or seven times and it has not been an issue. My only fear is forgetting to raise the extensions before hitting the road. Pretty sure that would not end well.
Who makes these units, Santa’s elves!?! I really like the floor plan and it’s given me cause to consider a switch from a Class A. The dilemma is I’m 6’6”, and part time nor full time does not entice me in this unit despite liking the floorplan.
Not impressed by the floor plan. What is it about designers, brown, brown , brown. Tired that most of them aren't improving to create a better interior design. Stuck in the 90's.
What, you want blues, pinks, greens? White, beiges, browns are natural, soothing, peaceful, basic colors of wood and go with everything. The RV companies should offer the option for different color schemes if we place an order specially made for us.
Nice but kitchen counter space is minimal and disjointed, prefer free standing dinette. Looking more seriously at Grand Design Momentum 397TH with space in garage for office and golf cart or three-wheeler like Can-Am Spyder.
State laws vary. And with 3,500lb on the pin, you need to deduct that from your GVRW over the axles. That's only 13k lbs over twin 7k axles. They could have used 8k axles but that would have been rare and unlikely.
The Elephant for full time living or even majority time living, that’s well worth it. Less than two years of hotel costs? vs being happy with this for a decade or more
I typically spend $25-250/nt for the properties, resorts and residences I stay when traveling. (Although, I am also in the Hospitality industry, so I’m far more aware of better deals & tourist traps than most.) Even if I stayed a full year, that’d be $91,250. Easily worth the money, but I think it’s ugly.
@@tnfatbelly I don't think it is attractive either. The color designs, color of furniture, floor plan... eh, I do not like it at all. I feel terrible saying that since they put so much time & effort into building it. 😔
Much larger wardrobe would be required to live in it full time. Inconvenient that there’s no shelf on either side of bed for a glass of water, cellphone, etc. And very little counter space in the kitchen for this big of a rig. Wasted space in living room that could have been used wisely somewhere else.
There are 2 vents that are very badly placed....... 1 right in front of the recliner? Who dose that? 2 right in front of the refrigerator? If you have the heat on, but want the refrigerator to keep stuff cool. 🤔
@@ebonyfaith8064 yeah we had the flat top then when it rose up it spread out,it was pretty Kool..My dad was ex Marine and he own three restaurants,Called Mr.Heroes in Shaker Heights Ohio and parts of Warrensville Ohio..we had a good lifestyle..Did he say 94k that's a house
Let’s see... - No stackable washer and dryer = 👎🏻 - No dining table = 👎🏻 - Those nasty door handles that stick out... especially on that door by the steps to the kitchen = 👎🏻 Verdict = 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
Cook top and kitchen sink are too small. My parents (5 years old)Montana has a good sized double kitchen sink and full stove with oven. Larger bath too. Otherwise, it has everything else this one does, but I'll take theirs over this one.
@@JustMaria2024 So just b/c someome states their opinion, it just has to stem from jealousy? Interesting. Then there sure are a LOT of jealous folks commenting lol!
1:35 Dampening road vibration making it into the RV. How would one feel the road vibration in the RV when it’s sitting still? It might dampen the unit being attached to the 5th wheel while your driving.
Has anyone seen frame flex out of fifth wheels.. I have a 2016 forest river vengeance toy hauler that has just started to show a 1/4 inch of flex in the front cap.. is this common?
Love the Mother In Law suite underneath.
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Your funny 😂😂
@@rickbritton9260 Agree! That was quite hilarious!
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I was thinking about that. :-)
😂🤣😂 good one!!
Hey BTBRV, first-time commenter, and long-time subscriber. First of all, I love your channel and think your video's and presentation are awesome. I have no issue scrubbing through videos if I feel the need to skip anything... so keep up the great work. This is also pretty humbling to see all the comments on this fifth wheel as I own this exact one. For me and my family, we absolutely love it (to each their own, I guess). I do agree with some of the comments that this isn't really set up for full-timing based on interior storage and use of space, but for us the layout is perfect for us. We do RV quite a bit (this is my third RV) and it's our primary tool for vacationing, long weekends, etc (we use it a ton). The large kitchen and living room make it awesome for entertaining and having guests. There is a nice slide out pantry next to the refrigerator and plenty of counter space in the kitchen (we love to cook). I guess the video doesn't show that very well. The basement storage is off-the-charts as well. I like to bring a-lot toys with us to keep the family entertained and it's perfect for that. I also completely removed the door to the washing machine for easier access (and we use it with no problem). That huge slide-out storage tray in the basement is priceless. Once again, love your channel and keep up the great work!
I love the floor plan! Nice and open. Love the spacious dinette in the front. I love the private bedroom in the rear. I don’t like it when you can see the bed from the kitchen. I could live in this full time!! Thank you for the informative video.
Thanks for your awesome reviews and not a whole bunch of ads !!!!!
I actually really really love this!!!! It's great for a big family and the dinette in the kitchen is awesome!!!!
Wow! I never thought I'd like a front kitchen unit, but this is terrific! That living area is immense too.
Enjoyed the video, thanks! Really like when you mention and discuss the better made and quality parts that should have been or could have been used or upgrades we would probably want and the pros and cons of all the important RV parts like the cable slide vs. the other type slide systems, the tire brands, the frame design, the axles, etc. Keep up the great work! Happy and safe RVing, Prost🍁🌻🍁
Interior of unit starts at 4:57. You're welcome.👌
Thank you
I was so looking for this comment
Hero!
Thank you 😊
I love the layout of my 2016 375fl. It's laid out very well. We have done quite a few upgrades including led diffuse lighting, lto battery banks, 1000w of solar panels, backsplash, finishing the trim work properly, resealing the shower. Etc. The kids love it, And with the master bedroom in the rear I can't hear them at night lol.
I love watching these videos, I’ve seen so many campers and yet idk which one I’m gonna get yet
The best front kitchen ive seen yet, now just need that with a bathroom next or a bedroom or mid bunk
Thanks for that another great review !!!!!!! I have never seen a floor plan like that , that’s an awesome layout, I’m looking for a full time RV , that’s perfect ..
Wow, very beautiful fifth wheel. Very impressed 👍
Great video, very nice trailer. Has a lot of room in it.
It’s a very nice layout and depending upon where you camp and the views the Forward Kitchen could be awesome.
That being said I’d love to see this floorplan essentially flipped with a mid bunk added in. I could also see in that layout flipping the kitchen to be on the lower level (meaning you don’t have to haul all your food up a few extra steps) and the living room elevated at the back. The negative there is likely less than ideal TV viewing.
For full time, a pantry would be nice. Free standing table and chairs a must for me. Bedroom is too cramped. For me, the lay-out is wrong. Will work for others though.
Jim Campbell I agree I have seen montanas laid out much better than this. And at that price nfw
You should come down to Australia and check out what we would call caravans. Aussie caravans and American RVs seem to be quite different. I think you'll like em
Do you live there? Got any channel where we can watch some good videos?
I am planning to move out from EU
I plan to go to Australia or Singapore.
Wow! Love this one!
Looks amazing
First, love the information and the tours. I like the airy feeling and the dinette. Love the big living room area. I am really thrown off by that weird kitchen sink. I know it’s a double sink but where it is placed makes it look like it’s just slammed in there as an afterthought. As much as I like the dinette, I’d give that up for a better sink placement. Another thing, the strange placement of the cabinet in the bathroom. Just weird that it’s placed on the bent wall. Finally, I CAN NOT deal with a laundry hookup in the bedroom.
A pocket door on that head would have been a nice touch.
I love the kitchen but what I prefer about the front living version of this is the bath and 1/2 and the ability to section off the guest sleeping area in the front so you don't have to wade through people sleeping to get to your morning coffee. Also, the main bathroom in the FL is much bigger.
Disappointed in the washer and dryer unit, but the kitchen is fantastic! I can see myself living in this.
Good job again.
This is nice. Can't wait to rent one!
Looks better than my house
There must be a better place for the washer dryer.
yeah, like just about every other cabinet. Even in the kitchen area would make more sense
I was thinking you’d have to lay on bed to do laundry ...lol
I heard people say slide outs are bad to have. Cause the seals around the slide outs go bad quick. I live in a 40' 5th wheel camper. And it has no slide outs. I been living in it for 15 years. Never had leaks any where. Ask why I live in it. Will if I wanna move. All I gotta do is put up the sewer drainage pipe. Water lines and put up the power cable move the jacks and then hitch it to truck. I had neighbors say u wash ur clothes. I am like dam yes i do it has a washer and dryer in it. It's the stack up top kind. Never had a issue with them. I removed the gas stove. And installed an electric stove and oven.
This would be a good rv for a couple that have a small business that they do on the side
My parents bought a brand new 20th Anniversary Montana and have had a number of issues after just a few trips. LED tail lights filled with water, front rubber belly cover support bars fell off due to 8 corroded bolts. Kitchen faucet snapped at the base, rear end cap separated from both driver and passenger side at the seams and auto level system had to be replaced. Good thing they got a lifetime warranty.
Yeah i wouldnt buy a montana again after our 3820fk issues
Doubt they will either. Still waiting on the tail lights to be replaced. Stealership said it would take 8wks to get in after they ordered them. Pretty ridiculous, but because of the warranty, there’s nothing they can do but wait and hope the lights keep working since they still head out every month.
That's the bad thing with warranty, they'll fix it when they're good and ready. No hurry bud.. screw you
Just when I was loving the mid bunk you just reviewed you drop this beauty lol. Really like it’s layout and features especially full time rated
You’re killing me! Every time I see an RV like this I want to just sell my house and go full-time mobile… Just have to convince my wife to get rid of the darn dogs! 🤣
No, No! Take the fur babies with you!
You can still keep the "fur babies"???? 🐶🐺😸😹
@@hordakskeletor4345 Yes! Plenty of people have fur babies in these "homes"! 😸🐶
Every Manufacture needs to learn to flip the doors on the shower. For me, its difficult ducking around the toilet or cabinet especially when you have a metal leg. Large step up showers suck also.
Brandon Caldwell Agreed.
@@DMAXRYNO Nice seeing you here. Looking at 5th wheels to buy for the 4500 to pull?
Nah the shower door is in the locked position or "travel position" in the video, theres a clasp that keeps it from moving and breaking. When you're all set up just unlatch it and itll slide all the way to the other side.
@@newdles0028 Think you missed what i said. The small section does not move. That section is usually on the side thats away from the toilet. Every 5th wheel and camper ive been in with showers like this have always put the door where you need to squeeze by the toilet or counter to get in instead of the other way. Its a pain in the a**! Also, huge step ups in showers suck. When i gone in for cancer treatment and my surgery, the step up always sucked as its usually a good 8in to 12in up step.
I love the front kitchen
thats super huge i prever when the Kittchen and the Living place are seperate.
I am quite shocked b/c I really thought I'd be crazy impressed. Yet I'm not. Bummer.
Don't like where the sink is and the size
@@JJ-ei3jh I agree 😕
Here in Australia not only are we down under we are also screwed under (EG) that Rv in this country would cost us 300 to 400k.
ROBERT BUTLER do you have trucks that will pull this trailer
Loved it😍
I prefer the kitchen of the 2017 model, much much more storage. ;-)
They utilize a lot of great stuff on this specific coach
16500 GVWR and can only carry 2760 pounds of cargo? In a 42 foot trailer? Man, my 39 foot fiver had 5K in cargo capacity. My current 21 foot TT has 2K in cargo capacity. Keep in mind this thing holds nearly 600 pounds of water with the water heater, and another 60 pounds of propane. 2K pounds of stuff seems like a lot, but it really isn't - especially considering the massive storage areas it has.
What is the ceiling height in the kitchen? I'm 6'5 and FK are usually low height, but love the layout!
The kitchen feels awkward 🙁
The problem I have with most of the Montana and like models is the sum of the axle ratings is as much as 2,000 pounds less than the GVWR. So the owner, maybe not understanding, thinks the trailer can weigh 16,000 (roughly) pounds, when in fact much above 14,000 and one or both axles are overloaded. Manufacturers need to step up and put 8k axles on the those. High end trailers do in fact match axle capacity to GVWR, unfortunately these mid-range trailers don't.
Don't wanna be blown away. Just anchored safely at some of the beautiful and well managed and designed campgrounds throughout USA free from noisy nuisance pets, smelly dog poop, cats creeping all over the place, nutty loud people, alcoholics, loud motorcycles and vehicles, speeders and thieves.
I second this.
Then just buy a house lol. Most people like to travel with pets. Lots of expectations for someone who doesnt seem to be able to afford all of them lol
Sounds like you need at least 100 acres of land to put yourself in middle of it, put up fence around property line with no trespassing signs and live happy ever after as hermit.. problems solved
@@gregsall5872 Just not into cohabiting or shacking up with filthy stinking farting creatures loaded with all kinds of lice, mites, fleas, ticks, germs, bacteria etc. and that just want food and procreation. I'll go visit a zoo or farm if I feel the need to touch an animal. Or watch them in nature like feeding from our bird feeder, listen to the pleasant songbirds, owls and occasional howls from dog coyote.
@@Hundert1 from dog coyote... haha. And yeah all of those things you listed perfectly describe humans too.
Good video of a more expensive 5th wheel, but I was wondering if you could do some high dollar horse trailers with large luxury living quarters??? Possibly show the difference in build quality compared to 5th wheels... I’ve been looking into these trailers for a toy hauler, because it seems that the build quality is superior to most 5ivers... also seems with the opposing slides, and lower profile it would be more efficient to hear, and cool...
I like lots about this 5th wheel, but do have some concerns regarding weights.. it shows 16500 gvwr on 14k worth of axles, dry weight of 13690. So it almost at max weight for axles rating before anything is added. I realize that some weight will transfer to truck when traveling, but just trailer sitting on 2x7k axles, wouldn’t that be stressing out the system just parked? Wish they use 3 axles... I see lots like this and it confuses me on how to watch weigh limits so not overloading rig abilities. If one takes it to 16500 would that be 2500 more then axles can handle? If you can clarify my understanding of it, maybe I’m missing the whole concept of the weights. 🤷♂️
The kitchen could be laid out much better, not a fan of the beach style table. Table and separate chairs is much nicer. The gray tones and cabinets would brighten the place up. Most people these days use I pads to watch tv instead of the giant television on a he wall. And it would be great to have the washer dryer (separate) in the kitchen😊
I am going to pretend those low ceilings in the bathroom and bedroom are why I am not going to get one. Besides that the front kitchen, mid living room is a cool set up.
Awesome informational educational video experience Y'alls
I love this trailer
Terrible counterspace.... I'd rather have the kitchen in the middle and living room up high.
Beautiful
Perfect rv
What are the construction and equipment differences for a full time rated coach?
Bruce H it’s usually just the winter rating. Insulation for cold weather, tank heaters etc..
@@jamash8095 Thanks.
didn't like the floor plan. I'm sure some folks will. It's just that I don't like 2 step up levels which leaves a cramped living room. A raised kitchen level doesn't seem practical either, especially if you have to carry food up and down into the living area. Another thing I don't like that manufacturers do is placing seating so that if you're sitting on the side, you have to crane your neck to watch what's on the screen. I imagine some folks would end up with a stiff neck after a while. For the size of this RV, the interior seems awfully cramped and I, personally, could not live in it as a permanent dwelling.
* Luv the windows
* Needs more counter around kitchen sink
* Pantry needed
Shamrock Girl it is what it is...
What type of pickup is necessary to pull this?
What truck would you use to pull this unit?
Many units have the leveling jacks hanging very low to the road even when retracted. This one looks that way. Has anyone had scraping issues with them like this?
I’ve always wondered the same thing!
It just looks wrong...
My 2019 Arctic Fox 27-5L has the auto-leveling and I too was concerned about scraping of the rear jacks. But if you draw a straight line from the bottom of the rear tires to the bottom of the bumper the levelers are above that line. We have used our fiver6 or seven times and it has not been an issue. My only fear is forgetting to raise the extensions before hitting the road. Pretty sure that would not end well.
Yeah I've scraped mine a few times lol. In parking lots, on dirt, mud etc. But they've always been alright.
I think forest river has a nicer front kitchen area in their sandpiper.
Good video. Any chance you can look at the Sandpiper 38FKOK? I think it has a far better kitchen and more internal storage.
Why would you put or want a bed in the kitchen?
Who makes these units, Santa’s elves!?! I really like the floor plan and it’s given me cause to consider a switch from a Class A. The dilemma is I’m 6’6”, and part time nor full time does not entice me in this unit despite liking the floorplan.
Not impressed by the floor plan. What is it about designers, brown, brown , brown. Tired that most of them aren't improving to create a better interior design. Stuck in the 90's.
Hides dirt better 🤷♂️
What, you want blues, pinks, greens? White, beiges, browns are natural, soothing, peaceful, basic colors of wood and go with everything. The RV companies should offer the option for different color schemes if we place an order specially made for us.
Jayco is starting to incorporate a lighter interior color. They call it the Modern Farmhouse décor.
@@JTLord-ef5np Oh, sounds nice! Thanks
Nice but kitchen counter space is minimal and disjointed, prefer free standing dinette. Looking more seriously at Grand Design Momentum 397TH with space in garage for office and golf cart or three-wheeler like Can-Am Spyder.
I love this overall floor plan, but need room for a motorcycle. Do they offer something with a small toy-hauler garage similar to the Momentum 376th?
Can a Ford 250 or 2500 Ram tow this RV?
16,500 lb gross on two axles?
Also, don't trailers over 10,000 GVWR require a CDL?
State laws vary. And with 3,500lb on the pin, you need to deduct that from your GVRW over the axles. That's only 13k lbs over twin 7k axles. They could have used 8k axles but that would have been rare and unlikely.
Nice, are they only 96" wide or wider? Some Cardinal, Brookstone, Cedar Creek Champagne, Open Range and Solitude have wider models.
what was the sale price?
Not RV related, but which truck bed covers do you endorse?
I'm a big fan of access bed covers because they roll up
Chinese tires on a high-end unit!
Pretty much a house for that price
The underbelly is bubbling on that slide. They did a bad job of gluing it and working out the bubbles.
You might as well get that in welded onto a bus frame
What do you haul that beast with???
$94K?... that buys you 626 nights in hotel room assuming $150 a night.
The Elephant for full time living or even majority time living, that’s well worth it. Less than two years of hotel costs? vs being happy with this for a decade or more
The Elephant No no. $94,124! BIG difference. Maybe if they drop the price to $94,123, we can talk. But until then... NOPE!
I typically spend $25-250/nt for the properties, resorts and residences I stay when traveling. (Although, I am also in the Hospitality industry, so I’m far more aware of better deals & tourist traps than most.) Even if I stayed a full year, that’d be $91,250. Easily worth the money, but I think it’s ugly.
@@tnfatbelly I don't think it is attractive either. The color designs, color of furniture, floor plan... eh, I do not like it at all. I feel terrible saying that since they put so much time & effort into building it. 😔
@@ebonyfaith8064 can always buy it and spend additional $10K on remodeling the place 😉
When you show these trls, mention the length. It would be nicw to know. Thanks, great videos.
It's 42 foot
Just wondering, when you buy one of these homes, do they come furnished?
Raymond Mathews usually, yes unless you are buying from a pvt. owner who has stripped it down.
Nice.
What's with all the bathrooms being 6'3". Can they make them just a little taller. I'd give up underbelly storage for a little taller 🚿
Much larger wardrobe would be required to live in it full time. Inconvenient that there’s no shelf on either side of bed for a glass of water, cellphone, etc. And very little counter space in the kitchen for this big of a rig. Wasted space in living room that could have been used wisely somewhere else.
A giant dining are and no pantry?
There are 2 vents that are very badly placed....... 1 right in front of the recliner? Who dose that?
2 right in front of the refrigerator? If you have the heat on, but want the refrigerator to keep stuff cool. 🤔
95k!? Could build a good size home bigger than this small trailer for 50k
Did you say $94k,my father used to rent those when he took us camping,94k are you kidding
Ikr?! 😲
@@ebonyfaith8064 yeah we had the flat top then when it rose up it spread out,it was pretty Kool..My dad was ex Marine and he own three restaurants,Called Mr.Heroes in Shaker Heights Ohio and parts of Warrensville Ohio..we had a good lifestyle..Did he say 94k that's a house
@@kkdeveauxgue2592 Exactly! That really IS a home! 😊
Let’s see...
- No stackable washer and dryer = 👎🏻
- No dining table = 👎🏻
- Those nasty door handles that stick out... especially on that door by the steps to the kitchen = 👎🏻
Verdict = 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
Do you have overall length restrictions where you live in texas ? Cali I think is 65 feet
Cook top and kitchen sink are too small. My parents (5 years old)Montana has a good sized double kitchen sink and full stove with oven. Larger bath too. Otherwise, it has everything else this one does, but I'll take theirs over this one.
Tiny Bathroom , bad setup for the washer / dryer all in all not a good set up
Diana Crutchfield; jealous or spoiled? This is just a luxury problem! Ik think the’re worse things in life...
Acrylic pour lu , Not jealous , I have a nicer one with a large bathroom and shower . The setup is perfect in mine and cost a lot less .
@@JustMaria2024 So just b/c someome states their opinion, it just has to stem from jealousy? Interesting.
Then there sure are a LOT of jealous folks commenting lol!
@@dianacrutchfield923 I agree 100% sweetheart! ❤
Ebony Faith Thank you
How can I get this 😍😍😍
All it takes is money and a trip to the dealer!
awesome video!! ... can you show also Grand Design Momentum and Vanleigh Vilano??
Msrp?
1:35 Dampening road vibration making it into the RV.
How would one feel the road vibration in the RV when it’s sitting still?
It might dampen the unit being attached to the 5th wheel while your driving.
Nice
Not a fan of front kitchens that's a lot of pin weight I would assume
Depends on the layout. That's why the dinette is where it is. Mine currently has more pin weight than this one.
Mansion on wheels
If I could get this for $60,000 cash, I buy it tomorrow.
Actually it's pretty close to that price probably
Has anyone seen frame flex out of fifth wheels.. I have a 2016 forest river vengeance toy hauler that has just started to show a 1/4 inch of flex in the front cap.. is this common?
It's common to a degree. It's usually because the frame does not have the reinforcements needed. Most manufacturers will perform a repair