It's a pity that Dunphy can't resist overstating his case for self-promotion as much as anything. But he does have a point (and I''m no supporter of SF). There is something profoundly dishonest about this country and how we discuss major issues in this country (for the most part). Dunphy is also largely correct about the how this State was initially governed.
@@olearysgrave two wrongs don’t make a right. Hundreds of innocent English people in pubs or buses didn’t deserve to be bombed just as tons of innocent people in NI didn’t deserve to be killed
Adams and McGunniess went into south Armagh where the local terrain had essentially been won back just like Cork had been in 1921 - British soldiers ceded the ground to the Provies and the local Irish population and traveled exclusively by helicopter and stationed themselves in fortified barracks - and managed to convince the people there to decommission and engage in power sharing. They lived through the years when the Northern state went about rowing back the changes made to promote Catholic equality in Ireland that began with the ending of the Penal Laws two centuries ago. lived through Catholic estates being attacked by mobs supported by the cops and reservist soldiers the lie we hadn't seen in south of Ireland since sectarian attacks on Catholics in 18th century Dublin. And we have the cheek to query how they protected Catholics and fought to remove the last bit of British occupation when we (rightly) celebrate blokes who did the same under far easier circumstances 50 years before. We have things backwards in Ireland.
No comments from Eamon in January 72 about bloody Sunday or anytime after when he played in England all ways kept quiet,total respect to James McClean.
Dunphy was literally the only Irish player in England to wear a black armband the following Saturday after bloody Sunday. He wore it all week in training, canvassed his Irish teammates to do the same but to no avail, then wore it on Saturday for the Milwall away to Norwich game to be fair. Total respect to McClean as well but simply wrong about Eamon staying quiet
Good man eamon talking about the stardust a tire Irish man the real question we want to hear from our government what happened to them poor young people all them years ago
@@Paul5520 Good. He's actually a policeman in Brooklyn. Funnily enough he phoned to tell my father (the eldest who's looking after the farm) that I should go over. My old fella said 'twouldn't do any harm, so I'm heading over at the weekend. I cant wait to see him. I'm sure everything's going to work out well...
The Irish people weren't 'forced"as you put it, to do anything. In 2007, the people of Ireland rejected the Lisbon Treaty because of a myriad of reasons. People from all parts of society had various motives and fears that influenced their decision to vote no. In the aftermath of the referendum’s defeat, all of these reasons were collated and studied. A major part of the problem was that the treaty itself was complex. It was a legal document and those who created it obviously didn’t put much thought into how a treaty full of legal jargon could be sold to an electorate. As a result, a number of ill-informed fears about certain topics started to spread, some of which hadn’t even been mentioned in the treaty. A number of people felt that the Lisbon Treaty could force us to increase our corporation tax. Others narrowed in on subjects such as abortion, conscription to some sort of super EU army and the lowering of the minimum wage. It was one big confusing mess and the NO campaign took full advantage of it. Guarantees. After the treaty was defeated in 2007, Ireland sought a number of guarantees from the EU. Consequently, we were able to get a number of legally-binding assurances about taxation, abortion and military neutrality. Furthermore, member states also agreed not to reduce the number of Commissioners in the European Union. Basically, the fears that many people had about the Lisbon Treaty were collected, analysed and addressed. Therefore, the Irish government were able to go back to the people and ask them to vote again, with these new legally-binding assurances in mind. Whenever this topic is brought up, Eurosceptics will often try to frame it as though Ireland was forced to vote on the exact same treaty twice. This was not the case. We had issues with the Lisbon Treaty and those issues were dealt with. So why wouldn’t we have voted again?
@@davidodonovan4982Europe has a flag anthem currency army a president we dont vote for it is undemocratic or what kind of democracy is it when we have to vote again?
@@johnbrendanoneill1029 Correct, except for the fact that Europe doesn't have an army, and the fact that Irish concerns over the Lisbon treaty were addressed and we had the option then to vote on the Amended treaty is in itself democracy, the very essence of it. Everyone has their gripes with the European Union, only the British wanted to leave, and anyone with more than 2 brain cells can see how well that's going. Brexit Is the greatest advertisement for EU membership ever
@@davidodonovan4982 your right europe doesn't have an army the EU does it goes by the name of pesco. I love Europe dont get me worng just like the ecc that us irish voted to join democratically in 1973 along with UK and Denmark. If it was so democratic why didn't we have best of three on the Lisbon treaty 🤣 as laughable as the idea it would be better than was done to irish in the democratic vote.
Dunphy like him or not was right the state is rotten as hell what he said was right in the case of collins yes he was a great man pre truce but was made a scapcoat smart enough to out wit the brits but not dev but both weren't smart enough to take the gun out of irish politics and that took courage
What about all the innocent people who were murdered by the British army ie if the weather changed they would blame the i r a ie well said eamonn dunphy
Would you have preferred Colleran to have gone unchecked? Would you have preferred his drivel to have gone unscrutinsed? Colleran said the PIRA "stopped abusing the people of Ireland." What an outlandish thing to come out with. Clearly he doenst understand that the PIRA smashed the bigoted, orange state that Catholics in the North found themselves in and ensured we'll never return to being oppressed again. I have a pathological hatred for people like Colleran and Vincent Browne. Two West Brit assholes.
@@magaolinewood9268 provisional sinn féin since dropping abstention to leinster house and subsequently the Stormont junta have been the lackeys of the British occupation in this country, implementing austerity budgets through their role in the Stormont junta, aswell as dropping opposition to special criminal courts in the 26 counties which means republicans can be imprisoned on perjury. They have also accepted the Mitchell principles and decommissioned Arms which were not theirs to decommission
@@redspud6017 We are closer than ever to a United Ireland and a lot of that is down to the venture into peaceful and political means. I support the Armed struggle but it no longer is necessary. Politics will deliver a united Ireland
@@magaolinewood9268 armed action is politics, and political power grows from the barrel of a gun. We are the furthest we ever have been from a united Ireland, just because provisional sinn féin has a 'electoral mandate' does not mean we will have a United Ireland, McGuinness chief collaborator said in 1998 we would have a United Ireland in 2016, if that were the case somewhat then some apparent progress would have been made. I think the only thing that has changed since 1986 was that provisonal sinn féin now have a somewhat foothold in leinster house. And since 98 they only have entered the Stormont junta
People like Lemass had the support of the people behind him. The Provos never did. It's ridiculous to compare the Provos with the old IRA that fought in the war of independence. Very different scenarios. Let's not forget that during the Troubles, the SDLP were the bigger nationalist party in N.Ireland. Most people wanted to pursue a peaceful, political path.
Gerry Adams is a greater man than the founder of the modern Irish state, the first man to negotiate a treaty of independence between Ireland and Britain, the man who had the vast majority of the Irish people on his side, the man who was arming the IRA in the north while trying to hold the volunteers together during the civil war and did not put bombs in pubs killing Irish persons and there children in English cities, I don't fucking think so, why is Eamon Dunphy even given time on television, the man is a gobshit.
Eamon Dunphy is a rebel and he stands up to bullies
He's a fucking headbanger who said he would join the UVF if there was a United Ireland.
He does love his sneacka 😂😂
It's a pity that Dunphy can't resist overstating his case for self-promotion as much as anything. But he does have a point (and I''m no supporter of SF). There is something profoundly dishonest about this country and how we discuss major issues in this country (for the most part). Dunphy is also largely correct about the how this State was initially governed.
Pure class by Dunphy. Just honesty
Well done Eamon Dunphy
Eamon Dunphy is a wally
Dunphy is Hitting the Nail Right On The Head. He made the point. He Reiterated the Point. Point made! I'm apolitical, but I can't resist common sense.
Good man emnond u are showing him up u are well able for him up the provos
Well said, Eamon!
Martin McGuinness and Gerry Kelly were two of the most integral people I've ever seen, and this is coming from an Englishman!
Go tell the to the hundreds of inocent people they killed in bombing campaigns in n ireland and England
@@edwardtanner6393 What about the thousands of innocent Irish the British slaughtered?
i made a comment about the integraty of kelly and mc g .frank
@@olearysgrave two wrongs don’t make a right. Hundreds of innocent English people in pubs or buses didn’t deserve to be bombed just as tons of innocent people in NI didn’t deserve to be killed
@@edwardtanner6393 and what about all the British soldiers murdered take the blinkers off yur eyes never hear anybody referring to that
Adams and McGunniess went into south Armagh where the local terrain had essentially been won back just like Cork had been in 1921 - British soldiers ceded the ground to the Provies and the local Irish population and traveled exclusively by helicopter and stationed themselves in fortified barracks - and managed to convince the people there to decommission and engage in power sharing.
They lived through the years when the Northern state went about rowing back the changes made to promote Catholic equality in Ireland that began with the ending of the Penal Laws two centuries ago. lived through Catholic estates being attacked by mobs supported by the cops and reservist soldiers the lie we hadn't seen in south of Ireland since sectarian attacks on Catholics in 18th century Dublin. And we have the cheek to query how they protected Catholics and fought to remove the last bit of British occupation when we (rightly) celebrate blokes who did the same under far easier circumstances 50 years before. We have things backwards in Ireland.
A great comment
adams was a british spy
Brilliant clip gotta love Dunphy
ger is an old west brit...you put him in his place eamon
Well done eamonn hopefully 2022 our ppl will stand up.
I have to say Dunphy tore this lot to absolute shreds, although he was goaded into a comment about Collins at the end that took away from it slightly.
Its high time the people of Ireland woke up nobody ever ever refers to the huge amount of innocent people who were murdered by British soldiers
More were killed by republicans.
And innocent people murdered by the IRA
Well said Dunphy
I am no Dunphy fan ! But he's right ✅ plus Typical Irish media ask him his opinion and then won't accept it . !
Dear Eamon. I'm sure he has a picture of the Shankill Butchers
on his bedroom wall.
Well said Eamonn Dunphy 👍
Well said eamo👌👍
Who did Eamon mention that no one else would. Hero , thank god the stardust victims got justice. He’s right it’s a rotten state
No comments from Eamon in January 72 about bloody Sunday or anytime after when he played in England all ways kept quiet,total respect to James McClean.
Dunphy was literally the only Irish player in England to wear a black armband the following Saturday after bloody Sunday. He wore it all week in training, canvassed his Irish teammates to do the same but to no avail, then wore it on Saturday for the Milwall away to Norwich game to be fair. Total respect to McClean as well but simply wrong about Eamon staying quiet
@@daviestott8369I am glad you said that, saved me the trouble.
Great clip, well done Eamon 😊
Well said Eamon 👏 👌
Good man eamon talking about the stardust a tire Irish man the real question we want to hear from our government what happened to them poor young people all them years ago
Good on ye Eamon
De Valera in the 1930/40s had men executed and interned while he was Taoiseach
A rotten state to its core, How right he was .
Thank You ED Pure class to expose 4:06 someone who will never be a journalist .
You want the truth - you can't handle the truth...... 😀
I learn all my facts from The Wolftone albums.
....and don't forget about the tattoos of the guys who regularly frequent the local pub.
How’s uncle benjie keeping?
@@Paul5520 Good. He's actually a policeman in Brooklyn. Funnily enough he phoned to tell my father (the eldest who's looking after the farm) that I should go over. My old fella said 'twouldn't do any harm, so I'm heading over at the weekend. I cant wait to see him. I'm sure everything's going to work out well...
Bravo eamonn say it how it is 🇮🇪
Well said eamonn dunphy well said
Whos here after watching tge tiktok video?
Truth
Dunphy is a man of integrity.
dunphy is a west brit
How? He is correct. Plenty of gunmen became politicians afterwards. Francis Thomas Aiken for example, he was a Northerner too.
Get into them eamon ya boy ye lol fair play to ye
The state was not founded on violence ...there was violence at it's foundation and this gave impetus to it's formation
Tom Greene the state was founded by the british under threat of war.
did you miss the part about civil war?
You cant handle the Truth
What kind of democracy is when we vote no to Lisbon and forced to vote again . Irexit.
I still don't know what was the provisions of the Lisbon treaty or what effect it had
The Irish people weren't 'forced"as you put it, to do anything.
In 2007, the people of Ireland rejected the Lisbon Treaty because of a myriad of reasons. People from all parts of society had various motives and fears that influenced their decision to vote no. In the aftermath of the referendum’s defeat, all of these reasons were collated and studied.
A major part of the problem was that the treaty itself was complex. It was a legal document and those who created it obviously didn’t put much thought into how a treaty full of legal jargon could be sold to an electorate. As a result, a number of ill-informed fears about certain topics started to spread, some of which hadn’t even been mentioned in the treaty.
A number of people felt that the Lisbon Treaty could force us to increase our corporation tax. Others narrowed in on subjects such as abortion, conscription to some sort of super EU army and the lowering of the minimum wage.
It was one big confusing mess and the NO campaign took full advantage of it.
Guarantees.
After the treaty was defeated in 2007, Ireland sought a number of guarantees from the EU. Consequently, we were able to get a number of legally-binding assurances about taxation, abortion and military neutrality. Furthermore, member states also agreed not to reduce the number of Commissioners in the European Union.
Basically, the fears that many people had about the Lisbon Treaty were collected, analysed and addressed. Therefore, the Irish government were able to go back to the people and ask them to vote again, with these new legally-binding assurances in mind.
Whenever this topic is brought up, Eurosceptics will often try to frame it as though Ireland was forced to vote on the exact same treaty twice.
This was not the case.
We had issues with the Lisbon Treaty and those issues were dealt with.
So why wouldn’t we have voted again?
@@davidodonovan4982Europe has a flag anthem currency army a president we dont vote for it is undemocratic or what kind of democracy is it when we have to vote again?
@@johnbrendanoneill1029 Correct, except for the fact that Europe doesn't have an army, and the fact that Irish concerns over the Lisbon treaty were addressed and we had the option then to vote on the Amended treaty is in itself democracy, the very essence of it.
Everyone has their gripes with the European Union, only the British wanted to leave, and anyone with more than 2 brain cells can see how well that's going.
Brexit Is the greatest advertisement for EU membership ever
@@davidodonovan4982 your right europe doesn't have an army the EU does it goes by the name of pesco. I love Europe dont get me worng just like the ecc that us irish voted to join democratically in 1973 along with UK and Denmark. If it was so democratic why didn't we have best of three on the Lisbon treaty 🤣 as laughable as the idea it would be better than was done to irish in the democratic vote.
And after all that he goes and votes Fianna Fail - typical Dunphy!
I think the presenter ought to watch the Michael Collins film.............
Why? Not all that accurate in fairness
Dunphy like him or not was right the state is rotten as hell what he said was right in the case of collins yes he was a great man pre truce but was made a scapcoat smart enough to out wit the brits but not dev but both weren't smart enough to take the gun out of irish politics and that took courage
What about all the innocent people who were murdered by the British army ie if the weather changed they would blame the i r a ie well said eamonn dunphy
Same thing isn’t it
Typical of Ger Colleran to have him on the panel.
Would you have preferred Colleran to have gone unchecked? Would you have preferred his drivel to have gone unscrutinsed?
Colleran said the PIRA "stopped abusing the people of Ireland." What an outlandish thing to come out with. Clearly he doenst understand that the PIRA smashed the bigoted, orange state that Catholics in the North found themselves in and ensured we'll never return to being oppressed again. I have a pathological hatred for people like Colleran and Vincent Browne. Two West Brit assholes.
@@redspud6017 What Situation are you referring to, John?
I'm not arguing with you just curious to know your stand point?
@@magaolinewood9268 provisional sinn féin since dropping abstention to leinster house and subsequently the Stormont junta have been the lackeys of the British occupation in this country, implementing austerity budgets through their role in the Stormont junta, aswell as dropping opposition to special criminal courts in the 26 counties which means republicans can be imprisoned on perjury. They have also accepted the Mitchell principles and decommissioned Arms which were not theirs to decommission
@@redspud6017 We are closer than ever to a United Ireland and a lot of that is down to the venture into peaceful and political means.
I support the Armed struggle but it no longer is necessary. Politics will deliver a united Ireland
@@magaolinewood9268 armed action is politics, and political power grows from the barrel of a gun. We are the furthest we ever have been from a united Ireland, just because provisional sinn féin has a 'electoral mandate' does not mean we will have a United Ireland, McGuinness chief collaborator said in 1998 we would have a United Ireland in 2016, if that were the case somewhat then some apparent progress would have been made. I think the only thing that has changed since 1986 was that provisonal sinn féin now have a somewhat foothold in leinster house. And since 98 they only have entered the Stormont junta
Free state hypocrites well said Eamonn.
People like Lemass had the support of the people behind him. The Provos never did. It's ridiculous to compare the Provos with the old IRA that fought in the war of independence. Very different scenarios. Let's not forget that during the Troubles, the SDLP were the bigger nationalist party in N.Ireland. Most people wanted to pursue a peaceful, political path.
Never any support?? Is Sinn Fein not the largest party in all of Ireland correct me if i'm wrong
Greater men than Michael Collins lol. Talking out of his arse
What do you no anyway go hero worship man u players that earn more in one week than you do in ten years Micheal Collins would like you PIG
How so. What is the difference?
Michael Collins was a great patriot. Eamon Dunphy is a nitwit and a wally
Gerry Adams is a greater man than the founder of the modern Irish state, the first man to negotiate a treaty of independence between Ireland and Britain, the man who had the vast majority of the Irish people on his side, the man who was arming the IRA in the north while trying to hold the volunteers together during the civil war and did not put bombs in pubs killing Irish persons and there children in English cities, I don't fucking think so, why is Eamon Dunphy even given time on television, the man is a gobshit.
dunphy drunk again, few too many scoops at the horseshoe bar wa
Wrong! He put West Brit Ger in his place.
West brit walker ger what a bolxxxk
He's 100% rite
*write right.
@@cormchm2853 correct ....
@@eringobreathtiocfaidharla1446 - Ireland to breath? Pulmonology issue Ireland does be having? :)