I mean, it was emotional decisions and he was frustrated but at the end he was really chill. I was more upset when Noc and Sivir just peaced out during that last fight to farm bot wave together lol but I think/hope they were just checked out and basically trying to let them end. Dude was chill though, wish him the best of luck for sure.
Number one rule as a jgler for mid late game. Don't show opposite side of the map of the obj. It tells everyone on the enemy team no smite lets fucking gooooo.
What is crazy to me is even with the Sivir coming late to Baron and bringing them to it if they had hit the baron you all could of likely still walked out through top lane with maybe one or two casualties but instead they recall for 5 seconds, walk away from the baron and not hit it for another 3 seconds only to hit it because their E was used. So for 8 whole seconds they could of hit the baron. If I am right, with Sivir getting their and immediately hitting baron I think it would of taken 4 seconds to kill it (baron) which would of given you guys 2 seconds to start running seeing as the fight started 6 seconds after she showed up and began recalling.
the coaching at the end was legit very generous, I think he was hung up on losing bot even though he could of rushed the objective with you and lost nothing
It didn't feel as stressful as the one a few years ago where you said "I feel like a mom with 3 jobs in the supermarket with her 4 kids running around screaming." But yeah, always the best way to show your anger, just throw the game. Solid.
Yeah, that's the tragic aspect of support... You can't solo carry a game like a top or mid-laner because you're broke and require others to follow up on your engages, baron calls, vision set-up, ... You can't 1vs3 and win like all my enemy top's seem to do after dumpstering my top lane... Thus, you're often left trying to babysit, breastfeed, and parent the other players at the expense of your sanity and winning games because they often still make the dumbest plays... Support is basically a firefighter trying to prevent the arsonists on his team from Rumble ulting his match history despite him making all the correct plays and calls. The fires are generally manageable when you're nearby but get completely uncontrollable as soon as you get farther away and they always remain active and ready to re-ignite at any moment...
The only thing here that Ioki did that tilted me. He got bad about lack of vision but he has 2 vision score and sitting on both his ward for way too long
You're right. I'll work on it. I felt like I was putting out fires and working off incomplete info too much to contribute meaningfully to vision, but I should have placed more for sure.
i0ki, when people started playing Camille and I was reminded of how fun pantheon is as support too.. I started looking for something similar but different. I played VI. And okay, Vi against a pair of ranged is not fun. But, when you're in low low low elo (that's me) and your adc is almost always completely useless. Vi works because you have speed (q dashing will get you places fast and has a low cooldown), you can literally tank drake for your jungler if you time your Es to produce a shield when your passive is off cd. If you Q into a group, they all get knocked back. Your E is still good damage no matter what build you do, especially at the beginning. Your W, if you can survive long enough to put three hits on someone, wrecks their armor! It's like having a built in black cleaver. I would love for the GSA to try it and show that I'm just a complete dunderhead bronze player who doesn't know anything. :D (just not against two ranged lololol)
This sivir player is delusional. You push out the waves so that the enemy is forced to push back while you take baron. If he had come right as everyone else did at the moment the waves were pushed out, the baron would have been over and the fast recall would have stopped any push back from the enemy team. Then again, there is a reason these people are all in silver/bronze elo when you are smurfing on a low elo account.
The main issue was sivir taking to long to go baron, if he went there at the same time even if started recalling mid way it would have been a few about 5 seconds faster, fast enough for everyone else in the team to run away from the 4 v 5 and noctorne qould jave been able to push, add the fact that no sane adc will push alone since they work better being on the team, the sivir player in conclusion is insane if he thinks the best play samira should have done was push solo.
sometimes you just have to work with your team's play. instead of doing what your team wanted (getting baron for free and running away without dying) the sivir decided to MAKE the play not work by leading the enemy to baron, and then sitting there recalling instead of hitting it.. even if they genuinely thought it was a bad play, it is much better to just try at that point rather than intentionally make the play not work out
@i0kiVids in fairness, you had mentioned that you had to play less like a support in order to succeed in mid like 3 minutes earlier so I can't fault you for following through on that mission 😉
@@i0kiVidsI beg people to look at the vision scores before they ask for more vision. If your support is over 2-3 vision score per minute asking them is so silly, they can hardly do more without potentially changing their build
I am ALWAYS down to speak respectfully and give the same energy back on comms. I messaged him afterward too, we are both totally cool and hopefully he used it as an in-game learning opportunity.
Hail of Blades means Vi can always AA-E before her Q stun ends, guaranteeing her W proc, which gives her the AS to keep the fight going and reduces her shield passive. If Vi has low AS, she can't really stick to people post engage unless you hold your R. QERE vs QAERAEA. For example, you could always proc it on Akali even if she's mashing shroud. It's all about the denting blows
You can even get two full E procs off of 1 hail of blades: QAE AAE E being an auto reset doesn't count as one of your 3 enhanced atks from Hail of Blades thus the above combo gets 2 Vi W procs all while attacking very quickly. Test it out on training mode for yourself and compare with the fluidity of the combo with when you don't have Hail of Blades up. (The reason you have 2 autos between each E is due to your E reset timer not being up fast enough after just one auto despite having 2 charges.) Btw, Vi support is really fun into bruiser and tanky heavy comps especially if they are all ad. Your W armor shred along with the speed of your W procs due to Hail of Blades and the fact you stack Black Cleaver so quickly while being bruiser enough to survive fights yourself... Highly recommend.
True, though he also won several trades 1vs1 against Ioki (a much higher elo player) off the same obvious play of dodging vi q with his e followed by Ioki blaming Akali for being an OP champ like a low elo player would do. (He did mention his engage was bad at least one of those times in fairness to him though I can't recollect if he made the same mistake after calling out his error...)
I love playing neeko mid and going against akalis, they always just feed themselves to me so easily. I'd have ff'd by the 20 minute mark, it's clear where the gaps would be and it'd be such an annoying game to fight out. Better luck next time!
Dude I've never seen such tilting games. I cannot believe this happened. Stay strong dude, I love your vids. Edit: I cannot understand the point of this Sivir. That's just hard 4 me.
Alright. Let's see whatcha got :) Edit: Wow. I'm not tilted but i am for sure baffled how this turned out. I'm really sorry for how this ended lol. Damn i0ki... :)
I don't know if you understand spanish, but..... dios mio... estos jugadores que se tiltean y pierden la cordura por enojos sin sentido.. la comunidad del LOL esta en gran medida enferma... saludos desde argentina
He wants Noc to have the baron buff, but doesn’t auto the baron before it gets stolen. He’s mad noc is told to come to baron so he doesn’t auto the baron. I can’t fathom it. I can fathom being pissed about someone trying to call the game and not liking the call but to come into a voice chat afterwards and act like it was the right call to recall next to baron is just bonkers. Baron dies faster, you can recall faster. In the extra 4 seconds of recall time he could’ve auto’d baron and still started his recall if he hadn’t been engaged on. Plus with splash damage coming off of baron it’s a terrible place to recall anyways. You can’t tell me that this wasn’t a guy purposefully trying to throw the baron fight because he was angry. I can’t see it any other way and none of his comments change my mind.
It's funny how many games I've won by either A.) Complaining in all chat that someone's champ is busted and the game socks. Causing them to int trying to "make the game worse for me" by diving me. Or B.) Just all chatting the most toxic player. Causing them to again, int to try and kill me.
18:35 Ioki: "where is the vision bro?" While having two wards available and having the lowest ward score on the team is very ironic. I mean dont get how sona only has 13 ward score at 20 minutes, thats crazy too. but still
No, don't read the comments. Scroll up and watch the entire video to it's completion. Good luck.
How did you know!!???!
Good Save
u are not winning the 'briarfootjob' allocations bro
Busted. Alright, fine, I'll scroll back up. I saw it was 1 hour long and it's beyond late, but I'll just save it for tomorrow ;P
WE GOT CAUGHT
The most unfortunate thing is that the Akali got carried to that win and they probably think they were the one who carried.
I mean, it was emotional decisions and he was frustrated but at the end he was really chill.
I was more upset when Noc and Sivir just peaced out during that last fight to farm bot wave together lol but I think/hope they were just checked out and basically trying to let them end.
Dude was chill though, wish him the best of luck for sure.
Number one rule as a jgler for mid late game. Don't show opposite side of the map of the obj. It tells everyone on the enemy team no smite lets fucking gooooo.
What is crazy to me is even with the Sivir coming late to Baron and bringing them to it if they had hit the baron you all could of likely still walked out through top lane with maybe one or two casualties but instead they recall for 5 seconds, walk away from the baron and not hit it for another 3 seconds only to hit it because their E was used. So for 8 whole seconds they could of hit the baron. If I am right, with Sivir getting their and immediately hitting baron I think it would of taken 4 seconds to kill it (baron) which would of given you guys 2 seconds to start running seeing as the fight started 6 seconds after she showed up and began recalling.
That baron play 😭😭😭😭 this game was a roller coaster
A rollercoaster that went off the rails and destroyed everything in sight
I was calm up until the recall at the baron
BRO I AM STILL IN SHOCK
the coaching at the end was legit very generous, I think he was hung up on losing bot even though he could of rushed the objective with you and lost nothing
56:00 also lead enemy to baron, not the recall. If he stayed mid and ran down enemy wouldnt have checked baron so fast.
The conersation with the guy was actually great though.
its wild actually seeing the guy behind league player trash talk while they type
You talkin about me?
Hey ... two league players having a civil discussion ... what is this?
It didn't feel as stressful as the one a few years ago where you said "I feel like a mom with 3 jobs in the supermarket with her 4 kids running around screaming."
But yeah, always the best way to show your anger, just throw the game. Solid.
Yeah, that's the tragic aspect of support... You can't solo carry a game like a top or mid-laner because you're broke and require others to follow up on your engages, baron calls, vision set-up, ... You can't 1vs3 and win like all my enemy top's seem to do after dumpstering my top lane...
Thus, you're often left trying to babysit, breastfeed, and parent the other players at the expense of your sanity and winning games because they often still make the dumbest plays...
Support is basically a firefighter trying to prevent the arsonists on his team from Rumble ulting his match history despite him making all the correct plays and calls. The fires are generally manageable when you're nearby but get completely uncontrollable as soon as you get farther away and they always remain active and ready to re-ignite at any moment...
to be mad about a call on Jg to leave bot for a baron trade... and to lead them to baron and recall next to it.. is wild.
No man my jaw is STILL on the floor
I feel like Sona ult is less forgiving than sera ult and requires closer range which sucks bc there are so many gap closers
These players choices put me in a coma. That was traumatizing
The only thing here that Ioki did that tilted me. He got bad about lack of vision but he has 2 vision score and sitting on both his ward for way too long
You're right. I'll work on it. I felt like I was putting out fires and working off incomplete info too much to contribute meaningfully to vision, but I should have placed more for sure.
This guy is literally like a civilian trying to explain to an army vet how the army works xD
One of the most entertaining league videos I've seen ngl.
Also I'd love to see a ioki jungle series
Yeah a lot of things fell off the rails but respect to you for having a decent conversation to talk about the plays afterwards
i0ki, when people started playing Camille and I was reminded of how fun pantheon is as support too.. I started looking for something similar but different. I played VI. And okay, Vi against a pair of ranged is not fun. But, when you're in low low low elo (that's me) and your adc is almost always completely useless. Vi works because you have speed (q dashing will get you places fast and has a low cooldown), you can literally tank drake for your jungler if you time your Es to produce a shield when your passive is off cd. If you Q into a group, they all get knocked back. Your E is still good damage no matter what build you do, especially at the beginning. Your W, if you can survive long enough to put three hits on someone, wrecks their armor! It's like having a built in black cleaver.
I would love for the GSA to try it and show that I'm just a complete dunderhead bronze player who doesn't know anything. :D (just not against two ranged lololol)
When people ask if Aliens exist... I point to LOL players and say these creatures aren't human.
This sivir player is delusional. You push out the waves so that the enemy is forced to push back while you take baron. If he had come right as everyone else did at the moment the waves were pushed out, the baron would have been over and the fast recall would have stopped any push back from the enemy team. Then again, there is a reason these people are all in silver/bronze elo when you are smurfing on a low elo account.
this is why i remove all of my chats so i can just focus on the game its insane how much better ive gotten since doing that
Ioki can you please tell me if you’re a trailer voice actor for marvel rivals. Because one of them sounds just like you and my husband says no 😭
NDA.
@ you think so? It’s just a trailer announcer, you would think they could get credit as such. :(
The main issue was sivir taking to long to go baron, if he went there at the same time even if started recalling mid way it would have been a few about 5 seconds faster, fast enough for everyone else in the team to run away from the 4 v 5 and noctorne qould jave been able to push, add the fact that no sane adc will push alone since they work better being on the team, the sivir player in conclusion is insane if he thinks the best play samira should have done was push solo.
The messed up part of all this for me is that akali won that match while trash talking you. I'd perma ban akali after that.
For such an r heavy champ, and the assassin build, why not axiom arc?
sometimes you just have to work with your team's play. instead of doing what your team wanted (getting baron for free and running away without dying) the sivir decided to MAKE the play not work by leading the enemy to baron, and then sitting there recalling instead of hitting it.. even if they genuinely thought it was a bad play, it is much better to just try at that point rather than intentionally make the play not work out
Somewhere between 18 and 19 minutes you asked where the vision was while two wards were chilling in your pocket 😬
You're right.
@i0kiVids in fairness, you had mentioned that you had to play less like a support in order to succeed in mid like 3 minutes earlier so I can't fault you for following through on that mission 😉
@@i0kiVidsI beg people to look at the vision scores before they ask for more vision. If your support is over 2-3 vision score per minute asking them is so silly, they can hardly do more without potentially changing their build
I don't watch Vi gameplay, but that intro got me hooked, so gj i guess XD
36:26 funniest moment. Glad you two called and dissolved the negativity
I am ALWAYS down to speak respectfully and give the same energy back on comms. I messaged him afterward too, we are both totally cool and hopefully he used it as an in-game learning opportunity.
This video is the definition of not being able to make the horse drink water. Some people can’t be carried.
Hail of Blades means Vi can always AA-E before her Q stun ends, guaranteeing her W proc, which gives her the AS to keep the fight going and reduces her shield passive. If Vi has low AS, she can't really stick to people post engage unless you hold your R. QERE vs QAERAEA. For example, you could always proc it on Akali even if she's mashing shroud. It's all about the denting blows
You can even get two full E procs off of 1 hail of blades: QAE AAE
E being an auto reset doesn't count as one of your 3 enhanced atks from Hail of Blades thus the above combo gets 2 Vi W procs all while attacking very quickly. Test it out on training mode for yourself and compare with the fluidity of the combo with when you don't have Hail of Blades up.
(The reason you have 2 autos between each E is due to your E reset timer not being up fast enough after just one auto despite having 2 charges.)
Btw, Vi support is really fun into bruiser and tanky heavy comps especially if they are all ad. Your W armor shred along with the speed of your W procs due to Hail of Blades and the fact you stack Black Cleaver so quickly while being bruiser enough to survive fights yourself... Highly recommend.
Silver 4 Akali calling people bad is hysterical.
True, though he also won several trades 1vs1 against Ioki (a much higher elo player) off the same obvious play of dodging vi q with his e followed by Ioki blaming Akali for being an OP champ like a low elo player would do. (He did mention his engage was bad at least one of those times in fairness to him though I can't recollect if he made the same mistake after calling out his error...)
@@goldenphoenix5945 wow a broken champ like akali won some trades who could have imagined, must be a skill issue. are you for real dude?
Just clicked on this video, alright tilted. 10/10 would tilt again.
Listening to ioki coaching/thought process is so fascinating to me. Wish I could get coached by the legend himself
Gonna have to pay the man :)
The greatest support alive being trolled by the worst botlane on earth
Please for love of league , upgrade your aol cam😅 love the video liking the video , peace
How do you ping how much it costs for u to buy an item? Ive tried every combination known to me
You should do crit Vi mid. I once dealt 2.5k damage in .9 seconds with that build. Essence Reaver > Collector > Eclipse and some other stuff like LDR
Holy crap, that sona is boosted!
Never occurred to the man once that nocturne showing bot would then make them want to force a baron play
I love playing neeko mid and going against akalis, they always just feed themselves to me so easily. I'd have ff'd by the 20 minute mark, it's clear where the gaps would be and it'd be such an annoying game to fight out. Better luck next time!
Lmao, what a game, even enemy players noticed
Leaving a comment before watching to guess the twist. It's that it was actually Heiz who was the jungler all along.
I think sona was the most tilting part. There is nothing complex about her ult. No real delay like Seraphines or anything. Just point and click
Bro Nocturne missed a LOT of macro calls
You should play against zwag in the mid lane
Dude I've never seen such tilting games. I cannot believe this happened. Stay strong dude, I love your vids.
Edit: I cannot understand the point of this Sivir. That's just hard 4 me.
34:37 When i got placed iron 4 for the first time i thought ive seen it all but ig not 💀🙏
You're right. This game did tilt me. But maybe it's because I watched one of Zwag's videos prior to this. But still - yikers. I made it 14 minutes.
No no no no no buddy. You HAVE to watch the entire thing. I'm telling you, your suffering has not even begun. Get back in there.
14 about all I could take too, back to Zwag I go
Well well well…. Usual suspect
I couldnt understand why this was an hour long video. 😅 twist for sure.
Alright. Let's see whatcha got :)
Edit: Wow. I'm not tilted but i am for sure baffled how this turned out. I'm really sorry for how this ended lol. Damn i0ki... :)
"Ya you are."
I don't know if you understand spanish, but..... dios mio... estos jugadores que se tiltean y pierden la cordura por enojos sin sentido.. la comunidad del LOL esta en gran medida enferma... saludos desde argentina
He wants Noc to have the baron buff, but doesn’t auto the baron before it gets stolen.
He’s mad noc is told to come to baron so he doesn’t auto the baron.
I can’t fathom it.
I can fathom being pissed about someone trying to call the game and not liking the call but to come into a voice chat afterwards and act like it was the right call to recall next to baron is just bonkers.
Baron dies faster, you can recall faster. In the extra 4 seconds of recall time he could’ve auto’d baron and still started his recall if he hadn’t been engaged on.
Plus with splash damage coming off of baron it’s a terrible place to recall anyways.
You can’t tell me that this wasn’t a guy purposefully trying to throw the baron fight because he was angry. I can’t see it any other way and none of his comments change my mind.
He does EVENTUALLY admit that he did it out of tilt/spite
@ I know, it’s just still maddening. Like pretending like there’s any justification at all is just beyond me.
It's funny how many games I've won by either A.) Complaining in all chat that someone's champ is busted and the game socks. Causing them to int trying to "make the game worse for me" by diving me. Or B.) Just all chatting the most toxic player. Causing them to again, int to try and kill me.
that sivir of my god…
18:35 Ioki: "where is the vision bro?" While having two wards available and having the lowest ward score on the team is very ironic.
I mean dont get how sona only has 13 ward score at 20 minutes, thats crazy too. but still
Ignite abusers in season 15 hrmph
First!!! But I am not tilted yet!!
Give me an update in 20 minutes.
@@i0kiVids Well I am still not tilted. I did laugh alot though, esp at the banter. Sorry you didnt get the win!
Report Sivir for ter0r ism FR. Play your best and don't grief 🤮🤮🤮.
Vi-0ki!
Ioki you need a new facecam smh
rofl this dude is pretty delusional .... not gonna say who im talking about. :)
You've been talking a lot of trash about Akali. I think it would be funny if you played some Akali for a video. Cheers Ioki!
Only people with no souls want to watch anyone play akali
There is a video where he gets coached by Prof Akali
Name and shame people who play like this. Just link their accounts.