It would be really cool to eventually see Reynor start picking random in tournaments. Seeing the pros have to scramble to figure out what they're playing against would be really funny!
About the armor upgrade over shields, Terran players' favorite MOBA unit has a tendency to make shields vanish so they aren't as good as in other matchups.
10:21 I think marines have their stimpacks and shields from the start of the game, although those aren't certified for use yet, and research is in fact a certification process. Once it is complete, marines are told that they are free to use those and they get it from their backpacks. Also it explains why you have do these researches every game again and again: you have to recertify those items for conditions of a new planet.
dude this was the most intense match up in a while, im always rooting for Raynor and beating top EU top terran with prots was great to watch. HeroMarine is unbelievably skilled, well played both for sure. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I'm picturing reynor in an 80s training montage furiously hitting keys playing protoss and working out his finger muscles while "push it to the limit" plays in the background. At the end of the montage he's the greatest all around sc2 player of all time.
Lowko: Pick up micro and blink micro is really hard to do. Reynor: Does both at the same time. Me: He has achieved both purity of essence and purity of form.
I just think it's great to see Reynor taking on other pros with his alt race, this just shows that it is possible to win and the so called imbalance despite the new patch, actually is quite fair.
I think it's worth noting that this stalker at 30:42 killed 6 SCVs after 4 minutes. That cost a lot of economy this early on and can snowball pretty hard. That's 6 out of possibly 30 SVCs, so 20% less than it should be.
Not having ever really played the game or followed the cannon this was how I was introduced to the name “Reynor” only while searching for his old games did I run into the character with the same name confused - I was to find this character was not, in fact a Zerg changeling but a Hero Marine!!
10:20 - Maybe it's like Metroid Other M, and the marines have the shields and stimpacks on them already but require authorization from command to use them in the field, and the research time and cost is to send a transmission requesting that authorization. Actually, considering the incompetence and corruption of most Terran powers in the Koprulu Sector, I can totally buy that a lot of Terran units have their upgrades on-hand and ready to use, but are forbidden from using them to like, save money or whatever. Would explain Siege Tanks having Siege Mode automatically researched now, and why Reapers got cheaper, less-powerful grenades they can't spam as often.
Considering the amount of mistakes Reynor is making and still beating the likes of HeroMarine he could become absolutely terrifying when he cleans up his Protoss even more. Great games to have the pleasure of viewing. I've often wondered why armour is considered better than shields in upgrades when using Protoss, since most Protoss players retreat units once they lose shields so you'd imagine it would be better to have more hitpoints on them?
Against Zerg, shields is better since they generally lack burst damage and don't have a way to get through shields. Terran on the other hand is usually gonna add in a few ghosts that can EMP away shields and render the upgrades useless. Also, they have heavy burst damage in the form of Tanks and Liberators and armour isn't too great against large bursts of damage.
People are very quick to count the game as 'figured out' but then someone like Reynor takes a Zerg mentality and just proves that income is king. That was always Zergs strongest point was how fast they could mine and income. When you apply that to something like Protoss with just Zealots (the single strongest early game unit) and stalkers its kind of insane. I love this idea. This really does show the pure irritation of Terran's ability to move everywhere at any point in time.
Peak SC2 at this rate looks like it would be players not knowing what their opponents will pick. Like a MOBA or something but 1v1. Then again, it's only Reynor so far that can do it.
I remmber back in the day when serral used to be the one true god... Lowko would introduce Serral being mechnanically good wheras Reynor was the up coming guy more of a ' killer instinct'. Its great to see the killer instinct brought to protoss gameplay.. I mean the guy amost always blinks forward into the action.. these are the makings of a future protoss titan.
Usually Protoss are quite defensive, they think their units are expensive and thus must be protected (plus they can regen shields). Reynor has more of that Zerg mindset: Fuck it, let's attack, there are more units where those came from. He can afford that because with this strategy he can keep opponents so busy in the mid game that he can expand his economy nicely behind it. You only need like two heads and five hands, then its easy :-)
The reason marines can't pull out the combat shield before it is researched is because the suits are made by Tesla. All the required hardware is onboard, but you have to pay for the upgrade before it becomes available. Some things just never change.
My blood pressure so high right now. After outright losing game 1 to widowmine drops he doesnt bother making a single photon cannon in any of his bases to counter it in game 3.
I'm only diamond level but I'm a big fan of keeping a high templar or two back on drop defense, feedbacking and destroying a whole drop force by itself sometimes ;p
to determine who is truly the best pro player at SC2, I think you should have to host tournaments that are random vs random. Reynor would definitely be a tough contender!
Reynor reminds me how I played Protoss originally. I saw their units as amazing skirmishers and loved shield upgrades. Decade later, my ideas are picked up him and executed to perfection.
Serious question here: How does race picks work in SC tourneys? Can they switch races between games or only after a loss like fighting games or are they locked in for the whole match?
It vary between tournament, some allow you to switch races between games within a match, some lock you on a single race for the whole match, or even for the whole tournament. We would have to read the rulebook for that.
Again! Tha k you so much Lowko casting this game that makes 100% CLEAR that Blink need to be removed because it's way too OP! This game doesnt show Zerg but it's the equivalent of how infestors arr way too OP with Fungal growth being able to touch ground AND AIR!! What a nonsense if you watched Lowko's real size unit video. And again the infestors with neuro parasite taking controle of units that need more then one men (neuro means controle of the brain) which means that it should never be able to touch air (way too far) and anything that needs more then 1 human to make work (good example is : tanks which need at least 2 people)! Same logic with Vypers and their abduct ability that can move eveything except a mothership. But Carriers or tempest or BC makes absolutely no sense!
@@richardsteinbergs idk. The fact he is also entering tournaments means he might be considering switching. He may not say it out loud. Also Lowko should probably also consider switching. I always felt he was more of a protoss player to begin with and the fact you can play protoss in a zergy way should be enough for him tbh.
Hey Lowko, I am a big fan. Have you cast any matches of HeroMarine winning? You often talk about how incredible of a player he is, but my memories are only of match loses that you have cast - maybe do something to rectify that? Or maybe I owe you an apology, and I just have a selective memory.
Could we see people that are not byun and reynor? I get that they are popular but it’s honestly getting really boring. I would like to see more showtime, dark, and Clem.
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Lowko : "this is definitely....."
My brain : "not ideal"
Lowko : ".... Sub-optimal"
Me : "who are you and where did you hide the real Lowko?"
I ruined it!
@@LowkoTV Nah, I liked that one.
XD
wrr
It would be really cool to eventually see Reynor start picking random in tournaments. Seeing the pros have to scramble to figure out what they're playing against would be really funny!
Flash did that in SC1
@@DarkTemplar42 gumiho didnt also do that for a while? or am i confusing him with someone else?
@@garryarganis5801 I remember LiquidTLO played random, that is already long time ago.
Does nobody remember the little one?
Playing Random in tournaments is not allowed.
Ah yes my favorite Protoss player Reynor!
About the armor upgrade over shields, Terran players' favorite MOBA unit has a tendency to make shields vanish so they aren't as good as in other matchups.
wrrrr, no such thing as upx or ovx or etc, talx 1uferix bloat, doesn tmtter
10:21 I think marines have their stimpacks and shields from the start of the game, although those aren't certified for use yet, and research is in fact a certification process. Once it is complete, marines are told that they are free to use those and they get it from their backpacks. Also it explains why you have do these researches every game again and again: you have to recertify those items for conditions of a new planet.
dude this was the most intense match up in a while, im always rooting for Raynor and beating top EU top terran with prots was great to watch. HeroMarine is unbelievably skilled, well played both for sure. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
wrr
That pick up/blink micro with the stalkers and warp prism at 33:33 was beautiful
Reynor as a toss is scary. He has the mind of a zerg and playing toss, its insane.
I'm picturing reynor in an 80s training montage furiously hitting keys playing protoss and working out his finger muscles while "push it to the limit" plays in the background. At the end of the montage he's the greatest all around sc2 player of all time.
The best! Around! Nothins gonna ever keep ya down!
I need this in my life.
Lowko: Pick up micro and blink micro is really hard to do.
Reynor: Does both at the same time.
Me: He has achieved both purity of essence and purity of form.
very enlightening hahahaha
I just think it's great to see Reynor taking on other pros with his alt race, this just shows that it is possible to win and the so called imbalance despite the new patch, actually is quite fair.
He switched to protoss as they nerfed Zerg too much
@@tbird-z1r Protoss was nerfed far more than zerg.
I asked for more Reynor Protoss, I got more Reynor Protoss. Love you Lowko
I love Reynor's style of play as a Protoss.
Reynor may be my favorite Protoss after seeing that Stalker / Prism micro. Wowowow
Reynor dominating Big Gabe with his off race...this guy is a madman...
Imma be honest, seeing Reynor playing protoss is the best please only cast this type of games.
Now we need Reynor toss vs Serral's Terran
Zerg op- wait that can't be used anymore
I think it's worth noting that this stalker at 30:42 killed 6 SCVs after 4 minutes. That cost a lot of economy this early on and can snowball pretty hard. That's 6 out of possibly 30 SVCs, so 20% less than it should be.
Yeah if nothing else that third game shows how good terran is at not dying
Crazy that it would've been even WORSE if that Reaper grenade hadn't knocked the second stalker into a widow mine.
The fact that can't exist a Reynor vs Reynor ZvP is a shame
I dunno, he has 4 arms afterall. Playing mind games is where it gets difficult.
Train an AI to play like Reynor?
Not having ever really played the game or followed the cannon this was how I was introduced to the name “Reynor”
only while searching for his old games did I run into the character with the same name
confused - I was to find this character was not, in fact a Zerg changeling but a Hero Marine!!
10:20 - Maybe it's like Metroid Other M, and the marines have the shields and stimpacks on them already but require authorization from command to use them in the field, and the research time and cost is to send a transmission requesting that authorization.
Actually, considering the incompetence and corruption of most Terran powers in the Koprulu Sector, I can totally buy that a lot of Terran units have their upgrades on-hand and ready to use, but are forbidden from using them to like, save money or whatever. Would explain Siege Tanks having Siege Mode automatically researched now, and why Reapers got cheaper, less-powerful grenades they can't spam as often.
Lmaaooo this is the greatest lore explanation of competitive gameplay mechanics i've seen
Or it's the cost of replacing the stimpacks with ones that won't kill the marines :P
one of best 3rd game i ever saw casting, ty for sharing
Yeah that 3rd game cast was something else, one of the best of 2022 for sure.
Methinks being half as chad as Reynor is a reallistic, achievable lifelong goal :D... Thanks for the cast, Lowko!
Considering the amount of mistakes Reynor is making and still beating the likes of HeroMarine he could become absolutely terrifying when he cleans up his Protoss even more.
Great games to have the pleasure of viewing.
I've often wondered why armour is considered better than shields in upgrades when using Protoss, since most Protoss players retreat units once they lose shields so you'd imagine it would be better to have more hitpoints on them?
In PvT, armour is better because ghosts can emp and remove all the shields, not so sure for other matchups
Against Zerg, shields is better since they generally lack burst damage and don't have a way to get through shields.
Terran on the other hand is usually gonna add in a few ghosts that can EMP away shields and render the upgrades useless. Also, they have heavy burst damage in the form of Tanks and Liberators and armour isn't too great against large bursts of damage.
@@anthonylin5585 Ah makes sense. Thanks for the reply.
@@tay2250 That makes sense. Always wondered about it. Thank you for the reply.
Ghosts. Unfortunately.
People are very quick to count the game as 'figured out' but then someone like Reynor takes a Zerg mentality and just proves that income is king. That was always Zergs strongest point was how fast they could mine and income. When you apply that to something like Protoss with just Zealots (the single strongest early game unit) and stalkers its kind of insane. I love this idea. This really does show the pure irritation of Terran's ability to move everywhere at any point in time.
I love Reynor's Zergy plays as protoss
34:30 ~
A pro? Paying attention to the mini map? Inconceivable
Peak SC2 at this rate looks like it would be players not knowing what their opponents will pick. Like a MOBA or something but 1v1. Then again, it's only Reynor so far that can do it.
Keep it coming! He’s been so fun to watch off race
Assuming Reynor actually spent more time with protoss and zerg against Dominion, his faction choise is quite accurate
It’s like watching another kind of level for Protoss
Reynor in that second game was everywhere
Reynor showing us what the being a professional looks like.
Amazing game!
Thank you for sharing it with me!
Imagine once Reynor starts utilizing Skytoss as well...
I remmber back in the day when serral used to be the one true god... Lowko would introduce Serral being mechnanically good wheras Reynor was the up coming guy more of a ' killer instinct'. Its great to see the killer instinct brought to protoss gameplay.. I mean the guy amost always blinks forward into the action.. these are the makings of a future protoss titan.
Usually Protoss are quite defensive, they think their units are expensive and thus must be protected (plus they can regen shields). Reynor has more of that Zerg mindset: Fuck it, let's attack, there are more units where those came from. He can afford that because with this strategy he can keep opponents so busy in the mid game that he can expand his economy nicely behind it. You only need like two heads and five hands, then its easy :-)
The reason marines can't pull out the combat shield before it is researched is because the suits are made by Tesla. All the required hardware is onboard, but you have to pay for the upgrade before it becomes available.
Some things just never change.
What an incredible game.
My blood pressure so high right now. After outright losing game 1 to widowmine drops he doesnt bother making a single photon cannon in any of his bases to counter it in game 3.
I'm only diamond level but I'm a big fan of keeping a high templar or two back on drop defense, feedbacking and destroying a whole drop force by itself sometimes ;p
I love how Reynor which from shield upgrade to armor upgrade depending on what race he against. Genius.
Very cool game. I would love to see an exciting terran vs zerg game
I honest think those PRO Protoss should start building Pylon and Shield battery everywhere on the map...Not just main base!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
31:40 is pure panic you can almost see it
to determine who is truly the best pro player at SC2, I think you should have to host tournaments that are random vs random. Reynor would definitely be a tough contender!
Great game!
Lowko they don't have the technology to grap the shield form the backpack
So proud for Reynor! I was fist pumping. Lets go!
The TH-cam autoplay thumbnail spoil who win the match the moment you try to click the video lol.
fun series!
I’m tempted to finally download SC2 just to play Reynors style because it seems so fun!
^^. u also build a calculator because u wanna copy zuckerberg?
Huh?
Reynor reminds me how I played Protoss originally. I saw their units as amazing skirmishers and loved shield upgrades. Decade later, my ideas are picked up him and executed to perfection.
Lowko, have you seen uThermal's ghost to grandmaster challenges? He did a nuke game the other day that was so good.
Reynor picking protoss?
Where's my SWARM!?!?!?!?!?
So, why did the cleaning bot exploded @0:38-39?
See? It's not the zerg that's OP it's the ZERG MIND
Serious question here: How does race picks work in SC tourneys? Can they switch races between games or only after a loss like fighting games or are they locked in for the whole match?
It vary between tournament, some allow you to switch races between games within a match, some lock you on a single race for the whole match, or even for the whole tournament. We would have to read the rulebook for that.
LOWKO Wheres the link in the desc!!!! You promised!!!!!!!!
Do you know when will you be able to cast GSL ? Love ur work
Love your video lowko
Really nice widow mine drop game.
Did we ever get a reaction from Showtime and HeroMarine on their losses after this weekly?
TH-camrs reflexively say they'll put links to things in the description, but literally never do it lol.
Looool
You dont know lowko marines need to learn how to hold a shield
To be fair though its Raynor with an A in the lore.
Again! Tha k you so much Lowko casting this game that makes 100% CLEAR that Blink need to be removed because it's way too OP! This game doesnt show Zerg but it's the equivalent of how infestors arr way too OP with Fungal growth being able to touch ground AND AIR!! What a nonsense if you watched Lowko's real size unit video. And again the infestors with neuro parasite taking controle of units that need more then one men (neuro means controle of the brain) which means that it should never be able to touch air (way too far) and anything that needs more then 1 human to make work (good example is : tanks which need at least 2 people)! Same logic with Vypers and their abduct ability that can move eveything except a mothership. But Carriers or tempest or BC makes absolutely no sense!
vypers can abduct every unit except ultras.
@@arankoka wow even sadder 😞
Keep them up
Reynor Protoss is best Protoss
Reynor flexing on em.
Hello!! My name is Lowko!!! Miss that 🥺
Reynor IS a hero marine and a protoss pro zerg
Yo why's no one talking bout if this a reupload or not wth
What if reynor is considering switching?
I mean he is on record calling protoss op.
to get to 7k he will have to play alot i recon
@@richardsteinbergs idk. The fact he is also entering tournaments means he might be considering switching. He may not say it out loud. Also Lowko should probably also consider switching. I always felt he was more of a protoss player to begin with and the fact you can play protoss in a zergy way should be enough for him tbh.
@@Nozdormu1982 that would be cool to see Lowko switch too. need to promote that Protoss baby. if Raynor will switch i recon many fanboys will follow 😜
@@richardsteinbergs One could argue Reynor is probing what protoss feels like and before you can blink twice, the mothership has arrived.
Terran is Reynor’s final form. Someone will have to push him to the limit before he unveils his final form.
His final final form is random
Ah shit, here we go again.
A toss with a high level zergs macro
Is this just Reynor trolling people who say it's because of zerg that he wins?
Hey Lowko, I am a big fan. Have you cast any matches of HeroMarine winning? You often talk about how incredible of a player he is, but my memories are only of match loses that you have cast - maybe do something to rectify that? Or maybe I owe you an apology, and I just have a selective memory.
Reynor, bronze to grandmaster, 100 probe build 😭
Go Protoss!
Epic fight yess
Uh is this a reupload?
Will Reynor Reign, or will Heromarine be our Hero?🤔 Personally I love and favor Terran! I love seeing people Terran it up😏
booooooooooo
I really hope Stormgate adds an Angel race, a Angel vs Demon RTS would be sick.
33:12
why doesnt pro use different skins?
Observer
widow mines r broken lol
I cant reach 200 apm :(
🤯
Reynor playing anything but Terran is the first thing I noticed about them.
YASSSSSS
His base was planted with widow mines. And yet he didn’t plant cannons…..
Yeah I was thinking the same thing, just 1 cannon per base
@@marlonsolis2272 You can't have 1 cannon per base (or any cannons) at widow mine drop timing. After that timing the cannon per base isn't for mines.
@@hivetech4903 makes sense, but I felt like he was being mine dropped for longer than that
Could we see people that are not byun and reynor? I get that they are popular but it’s honestly getting really boring. I would like to see more showtime, dark, and Clem.
He only won because he played Protoss, most imba race in the game. They need to nerf toss to make other races viable
Still, he can't play terran :/
terran units too fragile
Watching game 1 hurts right me in the khala
Widow mine drop = zero skill
Reynor's Toss play with zerg style remind me of xel'naga toss campaign IMO