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I have both software, definitely lumion is for faster rendering and I use it for exteriors, while VRay5 is just for interiors and a particular design. The learning curve is totally different, lumion is faster and my clients are happy with the end results.
Such a big difference in terms of contained algorithms, yet such subtle difference coming to visual fidelity in the run. What i gather from this session is that vray is quite open-ended while lumion is sort of stand alone with tonnes of presets built within for the end user in all its essence...😊
I like Lumion. Gets the job done faster. Speed is definitely the key in my workflow. It was not mentioned in the video that Lumion is a real time render engine while V-Ray is not. The real-time feedback really helps when editing materials, maps, colors, etc. It may true that V-Ray is more realistic in a raw output but if you know Photoshop well you can make anything look more realistic.
Yes, when you click on the render button Lumion does create renderings faster than V-Ray (that's the Rasterized vs. Ray Traced rendering difference). However, both Lumion and V-Ray offer real-time results - Lumion via the normal editor view and V-Ray via the Vision tool.
@@SketchUpSchool But Vray doen't have a Livesync Version like lumion does, does it? The ability to make changes in Rhino 3D (as an example), after you've added all the materials, lights, and effects you need, is a big advantage i think. Would love to hear your thoughts about it.
I'm a practicing architect here and I used both lumion and vray. If you need to do a quick, easy and good enough presentation for your clients than lumion(and some other cheaper alternatives) is the one for you. If you're an advanced pro level technical archviz artist that wants super realistic presentation then vray it's for you. Honestly, most clients are happy with lumion. I only use vray for post built presentation as an extra service to the clients
Im still a student but i use lumion cause its easy to use and i dont have to wait 5 years for one render to finish and can focus on creating a better overall design then fiddling about with the software in combination with rhino lumion works just the way i need it to :D
Just subscribed. Your points were quite right. I want to add something to that. I have been using 3ds max and Vray since 2010. Now people are more inclined towards SketchUp and new software additions. I really like how Lumion works with super realistic renders with minimum possible time. Vray has realistic rendering theme but it comes to spend hours and hours to achieve that. And it crashes sometimes when foreign 3d element imported to existing file. My recommendation to opt Vray for interiors and Lumion for exterior renders.
As a student I use them both.. lumion is undeniable easy and have faster workflow which fits the needs of an architect with tight deadlines. but we all know that it can't beat the complex settings of vray which gives vast control on the quality of renders. I use lumion mainly for exteriors and animations but for interiors and closer shots i use vray
Yes, Enscape is a great tool. It can be compared more directly to Lumion: It is PC only and is a rasterized renderer - which means it renders faster, but less realistic than a ray-tracer like V-Ray/.
At first, I hated VRay because or learning curve and loved Lumion. It was very fun and easy to learn Lumion, interior rendering was very fast. Later, we wanted to increase quality of photorealism and now we use VRay which was later on much easier to learn after practice with Lumion. Both are great software, you just need to adapt to your workflow.
V-ray for me is very realist and simple to use and configurate. Low hardware requeriments for basic use and best results adjusting configuration for each use.
But... What if the file processed by Lumion wants to use V-Ray to render later? Can the same file be shared without problems? Or do I have to save a new skp file?
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Well. I use both.It's depand on project for me.Some project has no much more time then I use Lumion.Feel good.I have time to spent and more detailing, take Vray.Thanks for video.
This was a great video. I have been searching for answers to these questions for quite a while. Your style is well paced and informative. Thank you for that. My situation is a bit unique. I am actually not in this business specifically but have been tasked with a project that requires photorealism 3D modeling for a few very specific layouts. Workflow and speed are not an issue since I will only (at least initially) be creating a couple of layouts and renderings. I would definitely err on the side of realism over speed. Also cost is not a huge factor but since I will not be using this software to make a continuous living I feel that V-Ray makes more sense. My project is strictly interior. I have experience with other software for other businesses that I operate namely AutoCAD and Pool Studio (my main business is exterior design). I have never used Sketch-up or V-ray Before. I assume signing up for your class makes sense but I don't have any real idea of how long that will take and if it is worth it given that I may only use those skills for a few select projects. Money is not the main concern to be honest but time and value are. Thank you in advance for any advice you can give me on this.
Incredibly helpful explanations of both. I hadn't done a ton of research into either, and if you had led with "only V-Ray works on Mac", it would have made the video a very short one for me. But I am glad to know the differences and options. Perhaps Lumion will support Mac users one day?
That would be awesome! V-Ray has already done the opposite: It has always been a ray-tracer, but also now has the V-Ray Vision tool which renders similarly to how Lumion does (faster, but less realistic). So if you want both options, V-Ray is worth a look.
I'm also using lumion for my clients, just imagine what if lumion got ray tracing element. Then the rendering end result will be phenomenal. Sure it will compete against Luxcore if lumion got ray tracer.
For Exterior and Flythrough, Lumion is the best. Interior Lumion may be a little behind in term of quality comparing with Vray. However Iam using convert software with high polygon & material Lumion still can archive the result as Vray.
One thing that sold me with Ray Tracing was my science background and discovered I could build an actual virtual telescope or camera lens that worked! Plus the results in actual real work are vastly more accurate. My first experience doing such was with Indigo Renderer. I dropped Indigo about six years ago when I discovered Vray had more flexibility. _(I understand Indigo has since come up to speed, but I've now completely switched over)_ Both are ultra hard-core accurate compared to rasterization and I would not ever think of going back, even though it works great. Rasterization is like dating a blow-up doll compared to a real human. :-)
As a student I have been using twinmotion for a year now and I can say it was the best until my computer couldnt catch up with the pathfinder, I started using V-ray and lumion but I can not have the results as I had in twinmotion, maybe because I’m used to the work flow of TM. V-ray has more metarial settings so my renders end up fantastic but I only use it when i finalize my design otherwise it takes so much time to render, Lumion is the best option to have quick renders and ready metarials
If you save sketchup model with vray material you can just use it again without need to change materials. What about lumuin ? Better comparison will be Enscape vs Vray as both are integrated in sketchup and Lumion is external application what can use sketchup models. Lumuin vs Twinmotion/Unreal Engine will be better comparision.
Good points! We initially compared Lumion and V-Ray because they are the two that we are asked most about by people... but you are right that they work quite differently under the hood.
In november D5 render will release their v2.0. It still needs a lot of features to compete with Lumion, but it's getting there. At a fraction of a price, and with a lot more realism than twinmotion. PLease review it than.
It's probably fairly accurate for who currently uses each package. That being said, V-Ray can still be a great tool for designers depending on the type of project.
Wrong. You cant design in Lumion. What you do in lumion is putting pre-made components inside you model. You design with 3d softwares like 3dsmax, sketchup, maya, blender, etc. And Vray compliments with them easily specially when your designs needs to be revised. You render in Lumion.
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I have both software, definitely lumion is for faster rendering and I use it for exteriors, while VRay5 is just for interiors and a particular design. The learning curve is totally different, lumion is faster and my clients are happy with the end results.
Thanks for sharing your experience! Very helpful!
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Such a big difference in terms of contained algorithms, yet such subtle difference coming to visual fidelity in the run. What i gather from this session is that vray is quite open-ended while lumion is sort of stand alone with tonnes of presets built within for the end user in all its essence...😊
I like Lumion. Gets the job done faster. Speed is definitely the key in my workflow. It was not mentioned in the video that Lumion is a real time render engine while V-Ray is not. The real-time feedback really helps when editing materials, maps, colors, etc. It may true that V-Ray is more realistic in a raw output but if you know Photoshop well you can make anything look more realistic.
Yes, when you click on the render button Lumion does create renderings faster than V-Ray (that's the Rasterized vs. Ray Traced rendering difference). However, both Lumion and V-Ray offer real-time results - Lumion via the normal editor view and V-Ray via the Vision tool.
@@SketchUpSchool But Vray doen't have a Livesync Version like lumion does, does it? The ability to make changes in Rhino 3D (as an example), after you've added all the materials, lights, and effects you need, is a big advantage i think. Would love to hear your thoughts about it.
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In my experience, clients are not looking for "photo realistic" renderings most of the time.... Lumion's end result is more than enough.
Glad to hear that Lumion meets the needs for your clients!
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I'm a practicing architect here and I used both lumion and vray. If you need to do a quick, easy and good enough presentation for your clients than lumion(and some other cheaper alternatives) is the one for you. If you're an advanced pro level technical archviz artist that wants super realistic presentation then vray it's for you. Honestly, most clients are happy with lumion. I only use vray for post built presentation as an extra service to the clients
Thanks for sharing your experience and advice!
Im still a student but i use lumion cause its easy to use and i dont have to wait 5 years for one render to finish and can focus on creating a better overall design then fiddling about with the software in combination with rhino lumion works just the way i need it to :D
Happy to hear that Lumion is giving you the speed and quality you need for your renderings! Thanks for taking the time to share your perspective!
Just subscribed. Your points were quite right. I want to add something to that. I have been using 3ds max and Vray since 2010. Now people are more inclined towards SketchUp and new software additions. I really like how Lumion works with super realistic renders with minimum possible time. Vray has realistic rendering theme but it comes to spend hours and hours to achieve that. And it crashes sometimes when foreign 3d element imported to existing file. My recommendation to opt Vray for interiors and Lumion for exterior renders.
Thanks for adding your experience and advice for others - really helpful!
Thanks Abdul, that is exactly what I wanted to know.
As a student I use them both.. lumion is undeniable easy and have faster workflow which fits the needs of an architect with tight deadlines. but we all know that it can't beat the complex settings of vray which gives vast control on the quality of renders. I use lumion mainly for exteriors and animations but for interiors and closer shots i use vray
Awesome! Thanks for taking the time to share your experience - really helpful!
I have Lumion, I don't need complex Vray..
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'Enscape' for Sketch Up could be an excellent option. Rendering is super cool in Enscape as well.
Yes, Enscape is a great tool. It can be compared more directly to Lumion: It is PC only and is a rasterized renderer - which means it renders faster, but less realistic than a ray-tracer like V-Ray/.
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At first, I hated VRay because or learning curve and loved Lumion. It was very fun and easy to learn Lumion, interior rendering was very fast. Later, we wanted to increase quality of photorealism and now we use VRay which was later on much easier to learn after practice with Lumion. Both are great software, you just need to adapt to your workflow.
Thanks for sharing your experience! Very helpful!
V-ray for me is very realist and simple to use and configurate. Low hardware requeriments for basic use and best results adjusting configuration for each use.
But... What if the file processed by Lumion wants to use V-Ray to render later? Can the same file be shared without problems? Or do I have to save a new skp file?
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Well. I use both.It's depand on project for me.Some project has no much more time then I use Lumion.Feel good.I have time to spent and more detailing, take Vray.Thanks for video.
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This was a great video. I have been searching for answers to these questions for quite a while. Your style is well paced and informative. Thank you for that. My situation is a bit unique. I am actually not in this business specifically but have been tasked with a project that requires photorealism 3D modeling for a few very specific layouts. Workflow and speed are not an issue since I will only (at least initially) be creating a couple of layouts and renderings. I would definitely err on the side of realism over speed. Also cost is not a huge factor but since I will not be using this software to make a continuous living I feel that V-Ray makes more sense. My project is strictly interior. I have experience with other software for other businesses that I operate namely AutoCAD and Pool Studio (my main business is exterior design). I have never used Sketch-up or V-ray Before. I assume signing up for your class makes sense but I don't have any real idea of how long that will take and if it is worth it given that I may only use those skills for a few select projects. Money is not the main concern to be honest but time and value are. Thank you in advance for any advice you can give me on this.
Probably easiest for us to help you if you send a message to team@sketchupschool.com and one of our instructors will get back to you with advice
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I mostly using enscape for my project now because it takes time on v-ray before, but I want to try lumion
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Incredibly helpful explanations of both. I hadn't done a ton of research into either, and if you had led with "only V-Ray works on Mac", it would have made the video a very short one for me. But I am glad to know the differences and options. Perhaps Lumion will support Mac users one day?
Glad the video helped! At the moment, we haven't heard about possible Mac integration for Lumion, so I wouldn't expect that anytime soon.
Great video- thanks! Only thing I would change would be to discuss the price first, as there's a huge difference between these programs.
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Imagine lumion adding raytracing one day as an additional option for those who dont mind waiting, that will be a game changer for sure.
That would be awesome! V-Ray has already done the opposite: It has always been a ray-tracer, but also now has the V-Ray Vision tool which renders similarly to how Lumion does (faster, but less realistic). So if you want both options, V-Ray is worth a look.
I'm also using lumion for my clients, just imagine what if lumion got ray tracing element. Then the rendering end result will be phenomenal. Sure it will compete against Luxcore if lumion got ray tracer.
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For Exterior and Flythrough, Lumion is the best. Interior Lumion may be a little behind in term of quality comparing with Vray. However Iam using convert software with high polygon & material Lumion still can archive the result as Vray.
Glad to hear that Lumion is working well for you!
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Leaning towards Lumion at this point. Still learning and it appears on face value the learning curve for Lumion is less steep.
Glad to hear that Lumion is feeling like a good choice for you so far. Be sure to let us know if you run into any questions!
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Lumion all the way for fast exterior archviz. Just cant compare the speed. I use vray and thea for my interior shots.
Yep - can't beat the speed of Lumion, unless you are using V-Ray Vision inside V-Ray for SketchUp.
One thing that sold me with Ray Tracing was my science background and discovered I could build an actual virtual telescope or camera lens that worked! Plus the results in actual real work are vastly more accurate.
My first experience doing such was with Indigo Renderer. I dropped Indigo about six years ago when I discovered Vray had more flexibility. _(I understand Indigo has since come up to speed, but I've now completely switched over)_ Both are ultra hard-core accurate compared to rasterization and I would not ever think of going back, even though it works great.
Rasterization is like dating a blow-up doll compared to a real human. :-)
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Great breakdown! I think I will prefer Lumion, since their development is also going very fast. Edit: Lumion 13 is rumored to have RTX support!
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As a student I have been using twinmotion for a year now and I can say it was the best until my computer couldnt catch up with the pathfinder, I started using V-ray and lumion but I can not have the results as I had in twinmotion, maybe because I’m used to the work flow of TM. V-ray has more metarial settings so my renders end up fantastic but I only use it when i finalize my design otherwise it takes so much time to render, Lumion is the best option to have quick renders and ready metarials
Thanks for sharing your experience - Twinmotion is certainly a great tool as well!
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If you save sketchup model with vray material you can just use it again without need to change materials. What about lumuin ? Better comparison will be Enscape vs Vray as both are integrated in sketchup and Lumion is external application what can use sketchup models. Lumuin vs Twinmotion/Unreal Engine will be better comparision.
Good points! We initially compared Lumion and V-Ray because they are the two that we are asked most about by people... but you are right that they work quite differently under the hood.
In november D5 render will release their v2.0. It still needs a lot of features to compete with Lumion, but it's getting there. At a fraction of a price, and with a lot more realism than twinmotion. PLease review it than.
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I am used skecthup for modeling and rendering on lumion
Happy to hear Lumion has been a good choice for you!
Vray, if your work is rendering, lunion if your work is designing.
It's probably fairly accurate for who currently uses each package. That being said, V-Ray can still be a great tool for designers depending on the type of project.
Wrong. You cant design in Lumion. What you do in lumion is putting pre-made components inside you model. You design with 3d softwares like 3dsmax, sketchup, maya, blender, etc. And Vray compliments with them easily specially when your designs needs to be revised. You render in Lumion.
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I am using Vray and happy with results. I tried D5 render engine, and that is fast and to create videos also good. Will you review it?
Thanks for the suggestion - we'll add it to our list for future videos.
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