How to NOT rip off a customer! Chevy Silverado Oil Leak, Rear Main Seal? Oil Pan?
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Naughty Ray, you normally ‘fess up to your little errors but here we have pry bar on the cross member, then bigger pry bar- then cut to where you had removed the 2 vertical, bolts you’d missed and announced “got it…” 😀
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I had to leave the oops in. Really needed to see if anyone would figure it out! Bravo sir! Bravo!
Yeah I got caught by that one last month on a Silverado oil pan job.
The struggle is real my man Ray.
@@RainmanRaysRepairs My van got 280k on it. The trans fluid is brown, is it true that I shouldn’t change the fluid because of high miles, or is this all a myth?
I could see it pivoting around the middle and thought that there might be some more fasteners.
@@hxd9321 omg, get it changed asap.
You truly cannot imagine how much I look forward to click, reverse click, duk a duk, bloo de do, and gravity each day, you are an excellent mechanic and a truly enjoyable watch on TH-cam, thank you so much for being you
You forgot “opening ze hood”
I get sad inside when he doesn't reply to the phone ringing with his own rendition, if only I had it as a ringtone lol. Love the laughs
Giggity
... 'you are comming with me'
Wobbely bits
I bet the customer really appreciated your honesty, good work Ray.
I wish more mechanics had your level of dedication and professionalism when addressing car problems. People like you are very hard to find in your profession. Keep up the good work.
We need more of those parts cleaning "montages". So satisfying to see a super dirty part come out almost squeaky clean!
The bad part for me is the fact I be cleaning the cross member (I know it is a bit anal) and hitting it with fluid film as it most likely has oil in the area you cannot get to with it in the truck.
Cleaning super dirty things is so satisfying. I am a little jealous. All I have is my bbq.
I had to put mine on my outdoor hoist and pressure wash all the oil off it , 1/2 gallon in one afternoon , short drive , im still investigating , 08 4.8 silverado 4x4 , 318,000 miles , I never seen one leak this fast
We call that rain “summer” in Scotland. 😂
Its awesome they made it so you can remove cross member to drop oil pan cause back in the days u had to pull the engine way up. rainman i love your honesty with customers and work needed to be done or not needed in this world today honesty is hard to find to many scammers great work
Ray, you’re a class act. The cars leave looking better than when they came in!!!
One of my major concerns getting deep into the video was that there was no phone ringing “DOOOOO DEEEE DOOOO” noise but fortunately, we got that resolved toward the end. always a pleasure to watch your work, Ray you have to be one of the most honest mechanics in the world. Happy holidays 🎄🎄🎄 to you and your family 🎅🏻
26:18 the ringing is there
He did it on 21:49 very quietly
13:24 also has the ring
Merry Christmas!
For future reference, those plug things that go into the transmission can be reinstalled using a long extension inside it and pushing it into the socket.
Hands down my favourite type of job. A clean, flat mating surface does it for me every time.
I love these videos! I never watch one without getting a little bit smarter. I do most of my own wrenching since I was a teenager, everything I can, and have been pretty successful with it. These videos inspire me to not get lazy and to keep doing it.
I recently retired after 40 years in the construction/repair and locksmith business, I would do similar narratives when customers were watching me. It made me less annoyed with them for following me around and it hopefully educated them and left them feeling like they paid for honest work.
My friend, as a shade tree that has only worked on junk old cars through a Haynes manual, you really do take the intimidation and mystery out of some of these newer car. Awesome content, and entertaining as well!
Well it’s a small bock v8 gm not much too intimidate. They are a relative breeze to work on.
I always used to road-test cars with oil leaks after I had sorted them, as letting it sit idling for 10 mins didn't seem anywhere near 'real world' conditions to me. I would also recommend that the customer returned a week or so later so that I could 're-torque' the bolts and make sure it was still oil tight, before they found any potential issue.
I’ve been watching this channel for coming on 2 months now and I find Ray not only a superbly knowledgable motor engineer, but also an absolute joy to listen to. I would go as far as saying that Ray makes you feel as if you’d known him for years upon years. He is a very talented people person. This a unique channel on TH-cam and I look forward to my daily dose of Rays comical humour and educational commentary on his work. One of the best channels. Thanks Ray for your wonderful entertainment buddy. You are most definitely a first class act
Greetings from Belfast, Northern Ireland 🇬🇧
I've only recently found him and I agree with you. You'd do well to check out South Main Auto channel too, a chap called Eric does similar videos and is a pleasure to watch.
I love how the cross member came out after an embarrassing film cut that didn't show you removing the 2 other bolts holding the cross member in. Still great work as always.
I caught that too!
@@studiOdara B/c he is a know it all -hahahaha
Yea, I saw that too, but didn't want to say anything, LOL!
Go play in traffic.
Oops! I said something... 😂🤣
you know your watching a pro when it looks so easy to do,keep up the great vids man .
Having the lift and correct tools really helpful!!
@@anthonyslazas2898 No kidding. Having a lift is way better than jack stands....safer too.
I agree. The lift is what makes the tech not have to get up and down and up and down. Being able to fit tools under there, able to swing long brakerbars and just plain and simple being able to see what your looking at without some strange angle of the head haha. Doesn't mean you don't have to have skill to do the work though.
I had an Astro Van with a 4.3 V6 for 15 years, that engine was great never any problems.
Funny, when you take all six bolts out of the cross member it comes right down. The power of editing. 🤣🤣
Holy shit I was blown away at video quality everything’s so clear and crispy
Ray, (if that is your real name) you just saved me money! Watched your video on replacing air pressure sensors and figured out how to do it myself. This particular footage from today was insightful and educational. Keep up the good work!
As a woman I watch his videos just in case some day I need work done and I will know what is involved in the repair.
@@janetepstein9733 - very smart. It’s good to have a passing familiarity with the basics of car repair. :)
funny how valuable his videos are for me too - my son is trying to diagnose an ABS problem. Pulling out the multimeter and checking speed sensors and fuses before I give up and take it to the shop.
@Daryl Baldwin: It would be my opinion (not asked, I know) that Ray is his real name and his TH-cam name is clever. What was Dustin Hoffman's name in Rainman? Yep, Ray, hence Rainman Ray!
Ray, i wish that all repairers were as good and honest as you.
Alas some just don't care 😞
Keep up the excellent work and never forget humor, it's good for you :-D
Lots of assholes out there in all walks of life. It's an unfortunate reality.
Well, in this case, we really cannot assume the last guy was a crook and not just a dummy who misdiagnosed the problem.
@@tarstarkusz nobody implied anything of the sort
@@WherEmEweeD Well, there is the title of the video.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one that has severe ocd with things being straight
I'd love to know the price difference between the oil pan gasket replacement and a rear main seal replacement. Love your content Ray it's refreshing to see a mechanic helping customers keeps their vehicles safe and not putting profit over safety.
U have some of the best vids to help ppl learn !!!
Yes he does and so does south main auto TH-cam channel
So great to see an HONEST mechanic these days. I look forward to your videos Ray. You could have agreed with the first opinion and gauged the customer but you held true and honest. Awesome.
by being honest with they will spend more money with them. meaning when ever they need vehicles serviced they will come to him and they will tell their friends to come to him.
My friend has worked hard to know how much you do in the back office and before you start working likewise I can wait until you have. Made it 😊
My best Christmas wishes to your co-workers the family and specially to your self. This channel is the king of TH-cam.
Looks like GM contracted out the production of those rubber plugs to the Doc Johnson factory ... LOL.
For those 2 oil pan nuts or any other nuts that you need to install in a difficult place, put a little piece of paper towel over the socket and when you press the nut in, it will hold and not fall out.
My dad used to use a leaf. We had a bunch of those handy.
@@nottelling4828 Yeah- that's a good one too or a blob of grease or whatever. Not long ago I was at a friend's house and his neighbor was working on his car, and by the language we knew he was struggling with something. We wandered over and asked if we could help. His intake manifold was one of those plastic units that curved down around the front of the engine and there were some studs and nuts that you could only access with and extension. He had taken them off with no trouble, but was now going crazy trying to get the nuts started back on the studs. there was no room to get a hand in there and he was trying to use a magnet to hold the nut on the stud then get his socket on etc. I took a piece of paper and put it across the end of the socket, pressed the nut in and he had it on in a second. He thought I was a genius.
Same concept, I use business cards. I have a bunch in my box so I tear or cut a small strip to use on 1 or 2 flats on the hex.
Everytime I watch a video I get more envious of your rust free cars.
Ray, Thank you. Watching your work gives me "warm fuzziness " for my soul.
Good morning Ray, quality repair as usual appreciate your honesty and not trying to sell the rear main seal. Merry Christmas and happy holidays to all. Greetings from Lake City 😎🌴🇺🇸
I don't know what those plugs are for, but they could have a second life in a porn movie
I really appreciate your videos and that they show the meat of the repairs from beginning to end.
Clean, clean, clean..you are the man Ray..most wouldn't go thru the pain of cleaning so thoroughly..your a gentleman and a scholar..keep up the good work!
Very impressed with how thoroughly you cleaned-up that oil pan. Much like I would do on my own vehicle, but as few mechanics would do on a customers vehicle. Kudos! Enjoy your videos very much. Amazes me when I realize you are doing all the camera work, as well as mechanical work, often one-handed due to the previous.
You would think by now, after millions of cars and thousands of revisions that there would be no such thing as a leaking oil pan gasket. All sorted years ago, but No, they still use the same system and they still leak. Same with valve cover gaskets.
@@terencejay8845 - ditto.
@@terencejay8845 There is no such thing as perfect system. No matter what it is, it follows the rules of the universe. Everything decays over time, nothing lasts forever. I will also hit you with another truth of the world when it comes to things like these, it's all manmade, and subject to fail.
@@terencejay8845 Remember cork gaskets?
@@VyperByteX I've had 50 years of car parts failing.
Everything you did was fine, except for hanging the started by the battery cable.
Many moons ago, I had the starter replaced in my 1968 C-10.
The mechanic did the very same thing.
What he didn't notice, was the battery cable came to rest on a sharp part of the framework, cutting into the cable cover.
When he finished the job, everything went fine, until I ran over a rough spot in the road, and the battery cable shorted, welded itself to the frame, and almost blew up the battery.
I had to have the truck towed back to the shop, and it cost them the tow bill, a new battery cable, and battery.
Chances are that nothing like that happened here, but it's just not a good idea to hand a heavy starter from its battery cable like that.
I'm glad to see that you saved this owner some money, on an unnecessary repair, that would've cost them a lot of money.
Same idea as letting a brake caliper hang by the brake line, doable but not advisable lol.
Yes, definitely not advisable to hang starter motors by the cables. That 1968 C-10 starter is way heavier in comparison. With their cast-iron housings, those typically weigh around 20 pounds.
@@josephwash109 Much heavier, but still...
Ray should know better.
@@VanillaWahlberg Exactly!
Enjoyable video Ray! 🤠👍 now do an oil pan gasket replacement on a 5.3l 4x4 as no one seems to attack those on youtube correctly 😅😂🤣
Thank you Ray for recording and posting your great work videos.
When you cut the video at 6:45 you must have found those other two bolts holding the crossmember in. Can see the holes later in the vid. Well it looked as if there would have been bolts going vertically anyway.
Been watching your excellent videos for a few weeks now, nice to see someone competent and honest (I know not all mechanics are crooks), you have enough subtle bits that are humorous to keep me subbed.
Also, got to say, you look way younger than I expected when your face popped up on camera as you unbolted the cross member.
Merry Christmas sir, hope it’s a good one
Ray's Humour and excellent work is the reason I subbed
One of the greatest shows on TH-cam thanks for sharing I learn out with every video.
so therapeutic. I have no idea why. Love the content dude!
My wife called me from work one day saying her car was a quart low on oil, which was common about every 3500 miles and we always kept a spare quart in the trunk. She said she couldn't find where the oil cap was. I told her it was yellow and sitting on top of the engine. She said, "is it marked 710?" I explained that 710 was upside down language for OIL. THAT's why it's important to have the cap on right side up at all times.
why cant more mechanics be like you ray.
Where in San Antonio can I find a mechanic that can install a oil pan gasket like you did, who ?
Have a Merry Christmas. Thanks for all the time you spend showing your craft. Take care!
great job Ray, i dont think most people realize how HONEST you really are. Have a MERRY CHRISTMAS.
So, I guess the other garage would have "discovered" an oil pan gasket leak in addition to the rear main crankshaft seal, as well?
Why would they? Typically they have to come off anyhow, most engines I've worked on you have to drop the rear crank bearing to change the rear seal, & to do that the sump has to be dropped, which implies a new gasket. Might be a different design philosophy in the US I'm used to European vehicles.
They would only charge for a rear main seal and just replace the pan gasket.
@@MrKornnugget They would charge for "all parts required to do the job"... if replacing X requires parts P, Q, & R, then parts P, Q, & R also appear on the bill in addition to X, plus the oil, even if labour is lumped all together (at least here in the UK).
@@MrKornnugget Ohhh no they wouldn't!
The cost of the oil pan gasket would've been added to the bill.
Shops do a lot, but the one thing they don't do, is throw parts in for free... LOL!
The other garage misdiagnosed and may have been trying to charge full price for doing only half the work by only changing the pan gasket.
"Gah, I hate engine oil!" ... Made me laugh harder than I should've.
At least it's not a diesel. Did a F350 the other day that had about 9,000 Miles on the current oil. Looked like vantablack paint or something, it was horrible. Every drip stained carbon deposits on EVERYTHING.
You explain it so well that even my wife would understand. And that with an unmistakable calm voice, great. If you then also copy the phone, it increases the entertainment value.
Loved that you said "Let's Go" pulling the pan and then whistled it!!!! ROTFLLMAO!
Ray good job. I think the fix will be $300 - 400 to change the oil pan gasket plus a little extra for the oil and filter.
I know why the crossmember didnt come off, and so did you and failed to mention why.
You sneaky sneaky. Sometimes the leverage doest help if its still bolted in. ;D
Love your videos, keep it up!
Also wondering if anyone else noticed :)
Yeah, I noticed as well. Those two vertical bolts get you every time. This (ahem) may or may not have happened to me at one point.
Excellent job! I love how you explained the issue with the old rubber plugs
It's been ten years since I've wrenched on cars. I enjoy your videos and honesty of your diagnosis. Also the pride you have for you work. Now, I want to buy that Milwaukee impact ratchet.
Love the fact that as you were backing the vehicle out your stall the time on the vehicle clock was 710, it matched the upside down oil filler cap 😀😀😀😀
Ray, I found that if a nut/bolt/washer falls down into an inappropriate engine/transmission hole, the remedy is:
Just pickup the pickup , turn it upside down and shake it.
This also works for cleaning out door pockets and the unreachable zone between the seat and center console.
You're welcome.
Artisan at work, enjoying it and instructing his audience. Thanks.
Videos like these are what TH-cam needs more of. Just the part of showing the view window and looking into the bell housing to see for a rear main seal leak saved me so much money. Found out my 4.3 was a oil pan gasket and not rear main seal due to this video!
Interesting Ray... When you worked on the Q7 valve cover it was "really annoying", but when it is an American car then all the weird bolt placement and obstacles is just part of the job... ;-)
Ultimate eye protection when you wear 3 sets of sunglasses on top of eachother
I'm a gear head to just not on auto's. I work on envelope machines. I love automotive to but don't know that much. You make it fun and educational so keep up the good work my friend. your buddy James. oh yeah happy father's day brother.
I just wish my brain could retain such knowledge as yours. You are a blessed individual to be so experienced.
There are times I wish I could throw parts into a transmission washer or extra large ultrasonic cleaner. Can’t stand putting a new gasket onto heavily varnished and sludged up stuff.
I think those rubber plugs can be installed much like body panel bumpers, I use a straight punch that fits inside the hole in the plug and use that to push it in kinda from the inside if ya get my drift. Keep up the good work and honest take on life liberty and the avoidance of the parts cannon!
Is better to use a 3/8 ratchet extension and place just a small amount of permatex on the part that seats inside on the rim, then hold the rubber in place once you get it inserted and pull your 3/8 ratchet extension out and they stay and it works great
@@willsrestorations if an extension will fit, I install body panel bumpers that will not go in until a pin is inserted into the hole in the center and the hole is much smaller than an extension hence my use of punches, assorted sizes for assorted bumpers...
@@willsrestorations 1/4" extension works also, just use it backwards and put a socket on the end so it's not jammed into your hand
@@throttlebottle5906 yep whatever size works without being too big, I've used a 3/8 extension on some of the bigger plugs but the quarter inch works pretty good for most of them.
hahaha Ray, every time... the oil cap. I'm not a mechanic but my (self-diagnosed) OCD would also prevent me from leaving the cap in the incorrect position. If I had a Silverado (which luckily we don't here in Australia) I would have had to have sold it. Absolutely love the videos, click.
Sir, having done all of my own(and others) repairs for many years, not professionally however, I truly admire your work and workmanship. I got older and needed to quit, I also couldn't keep up with the newer tech. It really is a pleasure to watch you work and problem solve. Your work ethic is also very rare. I wonder how many hundreds of thousands of dollars you have saved your customers by not doing unnecessary work other mechanics would have done out of either stupidity or greed. The mechanic that now does all of my repairs and maintenance is very much like you. I never question his work. If he says I need a left hand grommet filter, it gets a left hand grommet filter.
You have my respect.
The average cost for a Chevrolet Silverado 1500 oil pan gasket replacement is between $360 and $423.
Hey Ray, eye protection would be a good idea. I had a small metal shard spike me right in the center of my eyeball, the Dr had to put drops in to stop me closing my eye when he tried to get it out. It was very uncomfortable for days and all because I was in a rush, I looked like a Pirate for about a week with my patch lol. Safety First my man :)
I was thinking that too when he was removing the cross members and the other bar. Safety first.
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I usually Put my safety glasses on after I get something in my eye
Not a car nut here. Simply impressed with how you all remember how to reassemble a few dozen parts and bolts. Maybe hundreds? Great videos and simple explanations. Happy holidays sir and to all watching.
It's good to see that there is an honest mechanic still out there . I wish you were in the Fort Lauderdale Florida area.
22:01 Maybe those plugs keep dirt and mud from filling the bolt holes, since they are so deep?
I was thinking the same thing. They have to serve a purpose. It would be interesting to learn their purpose.
That is their purpose. However, as he alluded to the customer can decide whether to replace them or not. The old rubber stopper would not fit anymore due to the fact they had become contaminated by oil.
I find it hard to believe the old plugs would no longer do the same job they were doing before they were removed
@@shawnwimberly9294 I personally think they would still work. I would have told the customer that I reinstalled the plugs, but keep in mind the condition is where they might fall out. Then recommend (as he did) to the customer to either have them replaced or just live with knowing they might fall out. Clearly there is a purpose for those boots.
Those rubber plugs could have been driven into place, or trimmed a little if needed to fit. Then the customer could be told to have new ones installed at first opportunity. They are supposed to be there for good reasons.
I like the part where you were prying on the crossmember and then magically those other 2 bolts you missed were removed and it came right out.
I like the part where you copied the top comment almost word for word
Ditto!
@@shaynedonnelly374 many people must have seen the same thing as I did, I don't read other comments so I'm not sure what you are getting at here.
Great to see a nice honest car fixerer people.
Thank you for another awesome video. You just saved another customer getting ripped off.
This is one of the many reasons why I love ultraviolet leak trace dye.... I use it for pretty much every leak diagnosis.
Just seems to me, after you pulled the rubber plug, the concern was dropping the nut into the flywheel. Without putting the plug back, don't you risk getting water and mung into and on the clutch and flywheel assembly? Maybe not a critical part, but at least somewhat important.
That’s what I was wondering as well
This an automatic transmission
It's a flex plate. Not a flywheel n clutch assembly.
Thank you for showing the indepth cleaning of the oil pan, even though most owners will never see it makes for a complete job and for potential other leaks present can then be found
Another fine job done by the wizard of automotive diagnostic repair and service ! Have a MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY NEW YEAR Ray and family !
Just make sure u always stand on the driver side when filling oil.
If I did that, I would need really long arms to put oil in my '84 Chevy PU.
@@thehoneybadger8089 you have to check where your oil cap labeling points, that will show you where to stand.. I am going to have to do it from the front seat in my truck, apparently..
Are we gonna ignore the fact that he forgot 2 bolts for the cross brace? xD And after a magic cut they where loose and he pulled the brace down :P
Congrats, you got him, great job. Want a cookie?
There's lots of little bits like that in these videos, conversation pieces if you will.
@@shawnwimberly9294, it’s just editing. He was probably prying on it, realized he missed some bolts, put the camera down and took them out and then picked up where he left off. I will just never understand the need some people have to nit pick stuff like that in the comments. They can call it constructive criticism or whatever other flowery name you want to call it, but it’s just nit picking. Annoys me almost as much as the people who comment “ first “ on videos. Nobody really cares.
@@jimmyhorton8297 unfortunately, it's not always "nitpicking" , there are times when bolts are missing, proper heat paste not being applied, connectors not fully seated, improperly diagnosed evap issues etc... Ray encourages the conversation and claims to be " trolling the trolls" by doing things" his way"... he's often complimented on his transparency, but if i were him i would be doing more editing and less obvious dumb shit. Either way people like watching him do his thing, so more power to him.
@@shawnwimberly9294 , I’m exactly opposite, i think he should keep doing exactly what he’s doing and let the trolls do troll stuff.
Dooo doooo dooo I actually wait for it every time the phone rings I chuckle every time 🤣
Now I understand why the dealer quoted me $1100 to change the oil pan gasket on my 4.3L V 6 Sonoma. Ah, but that was 12 years ago.
Do those 2 rubber plugs on the oil pan keep the 2 bolts way up in there from rusting/corroding, which would make removal very hard?
they plug the holes to keep water and debris out, because it's wide open into the transmission bell housing/flex plate/torque converter area.
if your not careful pulling and putting those two bolts(**nuts**) back, you'll be doing some major fishing for them where they fell back into the great abyss 🤪
Why didn't you show the 2 bolts being removed from the subframe that you missed and stopped it from coming down?
Awesome job. Thanks for sharing. Everyone have a great Holiday weekend.
20:42 juicy fart
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Best How To videos I have ever seen!
The fact that you actually took the time to clean out the bottom of the pan, simply amazes me.
Congrats on surpassing 200K subscribers!
I like the way u take pride in ur work, just another day at the office, huh
Gravity, click.... I think having Ray as a colleague makes you have fun, no matter what..
These videos are some much fun to watch, keep them coming! 👍🏻
Your content is awesome bro and you do an excellent job walking us through the jobs. Thank you
I'm pretty good mechanically, very good woodworker, but I know little about cars, and hate working on them. So WTF do I like watching you do this? You have good comments and treat your customers honestly is all I got.....
I never thought I would be entertained watching auto repair video's yet here I am again. . . . . .
PATPAUL, greetings from Ireland, always a pleasure to watch you work bud,big fan of your channel.
Merry Christmas, Ray love watching you work, and a happy new year Cheers Patrick from OZ down under.
The only thing I don't like about your videos is, realizing how far away I'll have to drive to get to my favorite auto mechanic. You're definitely the man!😢
Nothing but respect, you know your trade and the pit-falls, yet you film your work, knowing the typewriter fiends are watching,with pedantic lust and itching fingies. Working to a high standard, an ambassador to your trade.