The word TAWHID is not mentioned in the Quran. What now? It even shows how ignorant the Quran author was by not mentioning the trinity correctly. What a "whole knowing"....
@@danielgomessilva8966 tawhid comes from the word Ahad meaning one and that is repeated in Surah 112 which is all about God's oneness. Tip for future: if you see an arabic word, go to its root word first
Actually according to the explanation of the guy above you it's mentioned in the Quran in the adjective form (ahad)... But in Arabic if you want to talk about it and explain it because it's a big science in the religious sciences in which you need to go in deep details about that adjective in order to define it and understand it well, so you need to call the noun form (infinitive) just like any other science. Just get a name in any science you want to study such as chemistry, biology, literature... They're all in noun forms... So it's very logical but the thing is that you don't seem to know much Arabic to understand it cuz English and trinity are all over your mind 😅 No offense ❤@@Shawn03.
فَإِنَّهَا لَا تَعْمَى الْأَبْصَارُ وَلَكِنْ تَعْمَى الْقُلُوبُ الَّتِي فِي الصُّدُورِ ["Its Not The Eyes That Are Blinded,But The Heart"] Quran [22:46]
it is because you can't understand Qur'an scientifically, logically, it requires faith to understand thats why Mohammad(PBUH) fools you to believe on something came out of nowhere you must be blind to understand your religion. "its easier to fool people than to convince them" -Mohammad
@@SoloSilence how? Was god born? Did he have a mother? How can god be a man, Jesus is a mortal, he is a man who rose to the heavens, he did not die, Allah (swt) commanded jibraeel to lift Jesus up, jesus will come back and live a normal life, he will get married, have kids, and die.
@@Follower-of-orthodoxyno they collected the pages of the quran that means they know the quran again and even back then they had people who memorize it so they made copy of the writing of the original you can get a 1000 year old quran and a modern quran and you will find no difference hope allah guide you❤
The Quaran even says the Bible is the truth. Not only that, the Holy Bible was carefully translated and written and believe it or not, by people who are very well educated. Do a little research and you'll find out how well written the Holy Bible is.
According to God he can be anything or everything and even doing many things at the same time but can't he be a man and God at the same time like Jesus guy? I think Jesus guy is more powerful than Islam god
Jesus christ is god, muhammad was a pedo and "allah" word didnt come from islam, but it came from egyptian archaic god's name - "al lah" and "lah yah" islam isnt original, it copies from jewish talmud and bible passages. Muhammad beheaded 800 jewish men, married 12 women (1 child too at the age of 6 and was consummated underage, at 9. There are proofs that back this claim too, so the argument that aisha was 18 is debunked, also because muslim scholars believe she was underage. Not only that, there are also hadith that show muhammad kissed p3nis of hassan and hussain who were young people.) There is also major major mistake in islamic quran that says seminal fluid is formed between backbone and ribs. This is disproved by modern day science and the claim that it was meant "loins" is also disproven because there is no such source that proves semen is formed at loins.islamic prophet's cousin was actually christian. Prophet muhammad spread islam by war, there are also keypoints that prove islam isnt true, because one of it is that it is "NOT PEACEFUL" which is correct. Christian crusades started WAY after islamic jihad in kingdom of jerusalem, so the claim that "christianity did far worse than muslims" is very untrue and rubbish. Also, italy was plundered by muslim armies. Also there are NUMEROUS SAHIH hadiths that contradict the authenticity of quran and the claim that "quran is word of god". If quran was word of god, then it must have no mistakes. It does. (Link to prove quran is false) wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Errors_in_the_Quran Also, embryology of quran is not correct and was copied straight off from Greek scientist Galen at the time of islamic establishment. Muslims hate to answer the question " where does sun go at night in islam" And here is the list of sins by muhammad, who plundered, persecuted, razed and looted christian villages, while also being the man between the g3noc1de against people of Bane Qurayza tribe, also while being the one behind consummation of Aisha. (Ray butlers comment) www.quora.com/What-are-the-negative-things-done-by-the-prophet-Mohammed And also, there are ongoing terrorist groups made by muslims , in the will to kill christians in places where muslims waged war, conquered and plundered residencies. However, muslims are living peacefully in christian countries and wealth. CONCLUSION : islam isnt right, repent and come to Yeshua of nazareth if you want to see the light, before it is too late. DEUS VULT, IC XC NI KA
Me and my cat and my dog are separate beings, but we are one. But if i kill my dog, i kill myself but we are 3 different beings, so that is not controversial but we are all one being. Does that also make sense to the "trinitarians"?
So if I throw you a bone you jump to fetch it? Or do you stay on your front loaw while your dog sleeps in your bed? Does your cat fill your plat with milk for you to drink?
So if the Son isn't the Father and they are both God, then you believe in 2 Gods... shaming people for not understanding your cult does nothing when the rest of us follow the actual Bible.
Trinity, another name for Tri-Unity is a triange type shape with 3 distinct persons, The father in heaven, The son (jesus), and the holy spirit, they are all distinct people of 1 reality, God. this sounds really confusing bro.. search up a trinity diagram and it'll make it'll clear it up a bit more.
@@Atomic0907 ye I don’t think education will tell me how 3 people are separate but the same person the people studying rocket science be saying * it’s not an explanation to why God worshiped himself *
Funny because in the Quran, Allah prays. Who does he pray to? Himself? Just because you don't understand the concept of the Trinity does not mean your lie-ridden false religion must be true and Christianity is false.
@@RaidenDEVOUR don't tell mistake to misguide other, the real meaning is this: Scholars are of the opinion that Allah's "prayer" on His Prophet - peace and blessings be upon him - is a Mercy that He showers on him. Likewise, the prayers of angels are an invocation of God's forgiveness in his favor, and those of believers an invocation in his favor. Indeed, we are invited to pray to Allah to increase His honors and favors towards the Prophet - peace and blessings be upon him. Numerous texts show with certainty that Allah granted His Messenger - peace and blessings be upon him - innumerable blessings. However, our invocation constitutes a gesture of love towards him.
The meaning is this: Scholars are of the opinion that Allah's "prayer" on His Prophet - peace and blessings be upon him - is a Mercy that He showers on him. Likewise, the prayers of angels are an invocation of God's forgiveness in his favor, and those of believers an invocation in his favor. Indeed, we are invited to pray to Allah to increase His honors and favors towards the Prophet - peace and blessings be upon him. Numerous texts show with certainty that Allah granted His Messenger - peace and blessings be upon him - innumerable blessings. However, our invocation constitutes a gesture of love towards him.
If nobody believes that the verse is from the Quran Here’s the proof The statement "It is not the eyes that are blind, but the heart" is a paraphrase of a verse from the Quran, specifically Surah Al-Hajj (22:46), This statement means that it is not physical blindness that prevents a person from seeing the truth, but rather a lack of understanding or a closed mind.
Jesus is fully human and fully God. He is the perfect human and exemplifies His perfection in worship of God, something all humans should do. His relationship with God the father is representative of a perfect relationship a person can have with Him
1 Timothy 2:5 "For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus," no trinity required, even the Bible authors knew Jesus was the true Prophet of Allah
When you don't care to understand theism outside of an islamic perspective, Then everything confuses you. Confusing you is extremely easy because you refuse to educate yourself. And we can't be held responsible for that.
Why only Jesus pray to the Father? Why doesn’t Jesus pray to Holy Spirit or the Father pray to Jesus & Holy Spirit, or Holy Spirit praying to the Father & Jesus? Why only 1 of the 3 (Jesus) only prays to 1 of the 3 (Father) if they are all co-equally powerful on the same level?
@@MatiasLemus-tl3he Why would Allah pray to Allah? He has created angels and all the living things that exists (excluding few humans and jinns) to worship Him.
When Jesus entered Jerusalem, the whole city was stirred and asked, “Who is this?” The crowds answered, “This is Jesus, the prophet from Nazareth in Galilee.”
@@danieldamie5806 Here's the verse:"Indeed, Allah confers blessing upon the Prophet, and His angels [ask Him to do so]. O you who have believed, ask [ Allah to confer] blessing upon him and ask [ Allah to grant him] peace." where does allah pray to the prophet. also you will never find allah pray to anyone in the quran but you could find allah prays upon or for his prophets. Pls don't spread lies or send me another verse to support your claim
@@danieldamie5806 "Indeed, Allah showers His blessings upon the Prophet, and His angels pray for him. O believers! Invoke Allah’s blessings upon him, and salute him with worthy greetings of peace." Verse 33:56 what about it ? it seems you're struggling with arabic and english at the same time.
Its good to show him his wrong about everything, when I hear him speak PAGAN words that is even worse, can you check this just DID JESUS ALLOWED YOU TO BUILD STATOE OF HIM? DID JESUS ALLOWE YOU TO CREATE CROSS and POPE AND PRIESTS AND SAINTS? Noo! Did Jesus created Holyday? NOO! Who created all these? The ROMANS! And why after Jesus never came back to aprove all these? BECAUSE its fake and PAGANS way of worshiping they just used JESUS name to manipulate people like it was his religion it never was the way he teached his diciples friends 12 of them were Killed some by spear some by public execution some by poison some by sword all 12 died in short time after Jesus, which leaves us only one OPINION the ROMANS were pagans they worshiped Statoe and had pagan Holydays they had Priest who did pagan rituals and sacrifices and they had Star and Cross whichbthey used to torture and burn people and they Used the Cross as sign of rwligion remember Jesus hated cross and while being on Cross he prayed to GOD CREATOR and remember this too JESUS HAD MOTHER so he is HUMAN and ADAM AND EVA had no mother and no father but they are not children of GOD. If this helps you rethink than think better who manipulatd you all these years.
You need the Holy Spirit to be your leader and guide and revealer and teacher Satan blinds the mind the father of all lies, but the Holy Spirit breaks through that blind ( the brick wall) and reveals the true will of God. The Holy Spirit is the greater one and the great comforter The Holy Spirit is a gentleman and only goes where he is welcome Only when Jesus returns and he establishes his true Church and true believers redeemed by the blood and walk in faith and love and Spirit will we know true peace under the shadow of his wings as a hen gathered her chicks Till then Satan is putting up a great enormous battle against the Church Jesus said: I will build my Church and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it Jesus is returning for "his Church" all who belong to him. (Many denominations have believers in our great God and Savior Jesus Christ) Jesus alone will rien Supreme as Lord and King of all the earth. 😊 The Qur'an was made in 1924 slapped together to make a standard book 📚 of great lies The most deprived book ever on the face of the earth Satan blinds our minds thats why you need the Holy Spirit to be your teacher and guide and power to break through that blind. Satan's stronghold. Manmade religions will be abolished 📚🤷♀️ Jesus is coming soon. ✝️ Thank-you God
As the Quran also says: "As for your women past the age of menstruation, in case you do not know, their waiting period is three months, and those who have not menstruated as well. As for those who are pregnant, their waiting period ends with delivery.1 And whoever is mindful of Allah, He will make their matters easy for them." This is disgusting
@@testiestsauce43shut up. U don’t. All you guys do is spread blasphemy disguised in respect. Jesus was sinless, no man is sinless. Not Mohammed. Not you or me. Jesus Christ is god and it’s disrespectful to say otherwise.
@TestSGaming isa isn't even His Name or close. Jesus is Lord and Muslims will go to Hell. uthman is scared to debate an actual scholar. Modern Debate a massive youtube channel tried to get Uthman to debate Sam Shamoun for months now and Uthman denied. He doesn't want a One vs One fair debate on a massive mutual debate platform channel with many views.
Funny, Muslims are using this verse to "prove" Jesus was a Muslim, because he fell on his face, while forgetting Jesus is saying he is praying to the FATHER, where the god of the quran says he is not a father 🤔
@@unwarysage05w32what were they talking? They discussing about any decision to be made or they just chating? "Son of god talking to god" sounds very realistic
It's because you are looking at it with a unitarian perspective. We Christians believe in the Trinity, which is most easily explained as 3=1, so it's 1 God, but 3 Persons, and each Person is 100% the One true God. The 3 Persons are not separate, they are distinct, and under that perspective, there is nothing incoherent with one Person talking (praying) to another.
trust he won't ever dare to have a debate with the son of zakir naik. Some will never admit the truth even if it is clear to them that their scripture is corrupted. So preaching is the new trend. I bet you that he is getting paid for every video he posts on social media. Thank ALLAH for the blessing of being a muslim
@@nadimnaouach5839ah yes the same god that allowed your false prophet muhammad to go and marry the ex wife of his adopted son who he had sex with. Or when he had sex with a 9 year old. Hmm very holy indeed. Or when muhammad licked and got his saliva on the black stone in mecca
With all respect, islam actually came as a reversal of established historical traditions, understanding, and religion. First and most obvious it reverses the divinity of Jesus, something that had been believed, discussed, and understood for hundreds of years as well as by the eyewitnesses of Jesus who died for this belief. The quran also acts as a complete reversal to Jewish religious history literally acting as the polar opposite so much so that it almost reads as an “anti-Bible.” To say that islam connect history and the Bible doesn’t is nonsensical. The quran was written during the time of recorded history while the Bible provides information for otherwise uncovered areas of history such as the bronze age. The Bible is far more of a historical book-in exploration and In reality
@@everythingwwe2800 what if I tell you that Jesus is a Messenger and the Father know that eyewitnesses will misunderstood Jesus and that is why The Father (Allah) said in the Bible that there will be another Messenger that will come after Jesus and you all must Follow Him and Mohamed was mentioned in the Bible Jesus' gospel, they say is in Mark 1:7, where Jesus prophesied of Muhammad, "There cometh after Me he that is mightier than I".
@@ziiv6389that was John speaking about Jesus. You've never read the bible bro. That isn't Jesus speaking, that is John the Baptist saying make way for The Lord Jesus (who is GOD read Isaiah 40.)
@@JaDiLoco if it John who is speaking and not Jesus or The Father (Allah) so why is it in the Bible ?? The Bible was suppose to be The Father (Allah) words BUT!! it was changed By Humans!!!!!!!!! and Humans make mistake that is why the Bible today is full of lies and THAT is why the GOD Father sent another Prophit Mohamed to correct the changes that happened to the bible By giving us new HOOLY Book The Quran to follow I read some of the Bible why dont you read some of the Quran here is some verses to start with When it is said to them, “Follow what Allah has revealed,” they reply, “No! We ˹only˺ follow what we found our forefathers practicing.” ˹Would they still do so,˺ even if their forefathers had ˹absolutely˺ no understanding or guidance? (170) The example of the disbelievers ˹not responding to the Messenger’s warning˺ is like a flock not comprehending the calls and cries of the shepherd. ˹They are wilfully˺ deaf, dumb and blind so they have no understanding. (171) (2:170 and 171) As for those who persist in disbelief, it is the same whether you warn them or not-they will never believe (6) Allah has sealed their hearts and their hearing, and their sight is covered. They will suffer a tremendous punishment (7) (2:6 and 7) (Dont be one of this people) Those who have no knowledge say, “If only Allah would speak to us or a sign would come to us!” The same was said by those who came before. Their hearts are all alike. Indeed, We have made the signs clear for people of sure faith (118) We have surely sent you with the truth ˹O Prophet˺ as a deliverer of good news and a warner. And you will not be accountable for the residents of the Hellfire (119) (2:118 and 119)
@@JaDiLoco Here some verses in the Quran read it When it is said to them, “Follow what Allah has revealed,” they reply, “No! We ˹only˺ follow what we found our forefathers practicing.” ˹Would they still do so,˺ even if their forefathers had ˹absolutely˺ no understanding or guidance? (170) The example of the disbelievers ˹not responding to the Messenger’s warning˺ is like a flock not comprehending the calls and cries of the shepherd. ˹They are wilfully˺ deaf, dumb and blind so they have no understanding (171) (2:170 and 171)
Because God the father an the son of God are one but separate just like your father on earth an mother have you in a family sense your all one meaning came from the same bloodline an yet your separate individuals come on its common sense
Why should Jesus need to pray? That's a good question and a lot of other people have asked, because they don't understand and to them it doesn't make sense, which is valid. I kindly ask you to listen with an open mind. An easy answer to that is: Jesus is our example in human form Jesus is the word of God (John 1 :1) He is the word made flesh (v14) - Jesus is our example in the flesh. Meaning a physical human being. So when Jesus says "My God" or is praying to God the Father, He is giving us an example of how we should communicate with God. Jesus was a human being when he walked the earth. In Micah 4:2 which was in the old testament, it was before Jesus existed, it said "He will teach us his ways, so that we may walk in his paths." - The things that Jesus did or taught, we should do as well. Love God and Love others (the two greatest commandments) Another example is Jesus's baptism at 30 years old. He didn't need to get baptised, because the purpose of baptism is to belong to God and removal of sins 2 Corinthians 5:21 and 1 John 3:5 claims that Jesus was without sin! Yet He was still baptised to set as an example of what believers should do. In many cases Jesus is fulfilling the prophecies of what the prophets said in the oldtestament One of which was in Mark 15:34 when Jesus calls out to God "my God my God Why have you forsaken me?" He is quoting Psalms 22:1
If we we’re supposed to walk his path, or he shows the way of god, wtf would he look like if he didn’t pray. If he was supposed to show us worship and salvation, we would never have a basis if Jesus had a god complex and cared about himself and not others. Every human being on earth should pray in the eyes of god. If god puts himself in human form, not a godly form of himself on earth, then of course he would pray, that’s the rule he has for humans. "I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore, whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. "And whoever welcomes a little child like this in my name welcomes me. A god needs to be humble as well
@@uwohiyuhi-achoogi456i think u forgot the oart where we dont believe in the bible cause its corrupt in our book every messenger preached that god is one and u shoukd worship him alone.
No disrespect bro, but honestly your reasoning is why hundreds of thousands of Christians revert to Islam. They can’t be separate entities and one entity at the same time. Being God means you aren’t dependent on another being for anything.
They are the same essence, three distinct beings, Just like how i'm Body soul and spirit. My body isn't my soul and my soul isn't spirit and my spirit isn't my Body. How can you even dare and try to say How God "should" be. We don't question how Jesus walked on water, fed 4 thousand people with 2 fishes and 4 loaves. We don't question how God can split seas and flood an entire planet; but here you think you can try and say theres no way He exists other then the way you think he does. Stop putting God in a box.
and many Christians convert cause they never were Christian and never read the Qur'an. Muhammad allows slavery, had sex and married with a 9 year old girl, allows prostitution through a marriage loophole, allows his followers to rape married woman gained from war, and promotes a "heaven" that's focused on wicked carnal man infested ideologies "Where men have eternal erections and plow on woman like fields."
The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are the same ONE person. It's the ONE same God manifesting Himself in three PERSONALITIES, not persons. Scripture proves this over and over, I encourage us to study to show ourselves approved. It's like the same ONE YOU being a son/daughter to your parents, a husband/wife to your spouse and a father/mother to your child. The same ONE you! Just three different titles, not names. I encourage us to pray about this too as it may sound new to many of y'all... It is basic simple truth. May God open your understanding. 🙏🏾
Come to the same point, Jesus says, no one knows that day nor the son but only the father? Islam believe in Jesus, Moses ibraham jakup David nowah , if one Muslim reject one of them prophets he can't be Muslim, alhamdolillah islam is the true religion, Jesus was also Muslim, Muslim means , worship only the true God, God only 1 can't be tow
@@rahatgameing1914If I were a Christian I would prefer to worship Jesus' mother, in my opinion Jesus' mother is greater because she could give birth to God
@@molemomolapo distinct but not separate that doesn't make sense at all. If jesus is god he should be all powerful depedent all knowing and immortal. Jesus moses abraham David noah all of them preached the one god concept. At the end of the day everyone can believe whatever they want but if you love jesus try be honest and figure out what he actually preached because definitely jesus was preaching the gospels or Paul letters
Why did Allah pray for Muhammad? Who do Allah pray to Sheikh? Come on answer! The verses are in the Quran that Allah is praying for Muhammad,that means Allah is not God ! There is some God above Allah? Uthman you are silly ! Jesus always conversed with His Father as in the matters of creation and His mission on earth!
Jesus’ words “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing” are found in Luke 23:34. Jesus looked down from the cross upon a scene that must have been distressing to Him. The Roman soldiers were gambling for His clothing (John 19:23-24); the criminals on the crosses to either side of Him were reviling Him (Matthew 27:44); the religious leaders were mocking Him (Matthew 27:41-43); and the crowd was blaspheming Him (Matthew 27:39). Surrounded by this most unworthy lot, Jesus prayed for them. “Father, forgive them” is a prayer of unmatched mercy and love. Even in His agony, Jesus’ concern was for the forgiveness of those who counted themselves among His enemies. He asked the Father to forgive the thieves on the cross who jeered at Him. He asked the Father to forgive the Roman soldiers who had mocked Him, spit on Him, beat Him, yanked out His beard, whipped Him, put a crown of thorns on His head, and nailed Him to the cross. Jesus asked forgiveness for the angry mob that had mocked Him and called for His crucifixion (Mark 15:29-30). It is important to note that Jesus’ prayer, “Father, forgive them,” does not mean that everyone was forgiven, unilaterally, without repentance and faith. It does mean that Jesus was willing to forgive them-forgiveness was, in fact, the reason He was on the cross. The words “Father, forgive them” show the merciful heart of God. Jesus prayed, “Father, forgive them,” because He was fulfilling Old Testament prophecy: “He bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors” (Isaiah 53:12). From the cross, Jesus interceded for sinners. Today, risen and glorified, Jesus remains the “one mediator between God and mankind” (1 Timothy 2:5). Jesus prayed, “Father, forgive them,” because He was putting into practice the principle He had taught in the Sermon on the Mount: “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you” (Matthew 5:43-44). Jesus, the persecuted, prayed for His persecutors. Coupled with the willingness of Jesus to forgive His tormentors is the fact that they did not know what they were doing (Luke 23:34). The sinners who put Jesus on the cross were ignorant of the true import of their actions. The soldiers personally held no ill will toward Him. They were simply following orders. This was how they normally treated condemned men, and they believed that He truly deserved it. They didn’t know that they were killing the Son of God (see 1 Corinthians 2:8). The mob didn’t really know whom they were trying to destroy. The Jewish leaders had deceived them into believing that Jesus was a fake and a troublemaker (Acts 3:17). In praying “Father, forgive them,” Jesus revealed His infinite mercy; He still loved them and would forgive them if only they would humble themselves and repent (Matthew 18:14; 2 Peter 3:9). Jesus’ prayer “Father, forgive them” was answered in the lives of many people. The Roman centurion at the foot of the cross, upon seeing how Jesus died, exclaimed, “Surely this man was the Son of God!” (Mark 15:39). One of the two thieves crucified with Jesus exercised faith in Christ, who promised him paradise (Luke 23:39-43). A member of the Sanhedrin publicly aligned himself with Jesus (John 19:39). And, a little over a month later, three thousand people in Jerusalem were saved in one day as the church began (Acts 2:41). On the cross Jesus provided forgiveness for all those who would ever believe in Him (Matthew 20:28). Jesus paid the penalty for the sins that we commit in our ignorance, and even the ones we’ve committed deliberately. When we are born again, we, too, become an answer to Jesus’ prayer “Father, forgive them.”
@destiny6080 absolutely correct ..God is defined by his greatness over his creation not his creation having the ability to put 'god' on a cross to kill him as a sacrifice for his own creation's sins so he can forgive them ...total nonsense from the get go lol
From the beginning Yashuah was with Yah , we are spirit in the flesh not flesh with a spirit . All major and minor prophets such as Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were given The Holy Spirit of Yah in fact Yah wrestled all night with Yah. Who can know Him completely not know one today the world is upside down a cesspool of rebate minds . The son OF YAH is one in the spirit with The Father and if you deny Him so will my Papa Yah deny you . I am completely ashamed of this world adding and taking from my Yashuas word !! Shameful 😢😭
im an atheist, but look up the definition of trinity, its self explanatory. it made sense basically a 3 in 1. one entity with 3 manifestations? feel free to correct me, christians.
@@aahhhhhhhhhhhhh Three manifestations of the same being still doesn't explain why one manifestation needs to pray to another manifestation. One one manifestation knows when judgment day is but another manifestation doesn't. Why one manifestation asks the other manifestation why he has forsaken him on the cross. There are many more questions.
@@dog-ye1stthink of it as a sign of respect for Christ sacrificing his life on the cross for everyone, also it is a Catholic behavior not all Christians do the sign of the cross.
@@bananaman862I'm sorry, but genuinely that doesn't seem to make sense. Like say for example my father died to protect me and benefit my life, but in the process of saving me he was killed by a sword, would it make logical sense for me to carry a sword for the rest of my life to honour his sacrifice. It just seems strange to honor someone with the thing that killed them.
@@hhermon6415 Jesus knew how he would die and he did it willingly. The whole point of his death was to give everyone the chance to go into heaven by taking our sins from us. At any point he could’ve saved himself and harmed everyone he tried to kill him, but he didn’t and went through with the crucifixion because he knew what had to be done.
He always validated about the muslim why he won't validate the Bible , ferst before he comment about Christian , don't tell while Jesus is praying to God Jesus is not God ,
"undercover muslim" 😂😂😂 Jokes aside. Muslims cannot say "yeah I'm a Christian" as a lie like you guys do for war propaganda or for taking from Christian audiences away from islam
@@bernadethcaputli4710if you talk to your father does that make you not a person? Of course not and no one would argue that. So why does Jesus talking to His Father make Him not God? No prophet calls God Father, only the Son Jesus Christ. The trinity is hard to understand and comprehend, but Jesus talking to His Father does not mean He is not God, it only means He is not the Father but is One with the Father as He claims multiple times
@@everythingwwe2800 it is not talk a pray is something a talk is something else. It didn't say and then Jesus fell on his face and started talking. it said Jesus fell on his face and started praying. You see praying is only for God. Also David according to Jews is the Son of God but not in the same sense as Jesus for Christians.
I'm not Christian, but Jesus did everything he did to Show the Way, it is a very very simple concept to understand. Even if he is praying to himself, he is showing the way to live.
I mean he is not really praying to himself like jesus is not the only entity with god like powers like the father and the holy spirit. But at the end of the day he was roleplaying as a human showing humans how to act
@@Narasimha_TheSher Ah ok so atheist? What train of thought or school of thought or philosophy in Atheism brought up that idea? I thought Atheists would say Jesus lied about his divinity (Jesus lied argument) but this is the first time I heard Atheists used the followers lied argument.
It is largely beyond human comprehension, but I think of it like this. God is like a peanut. One of those big ones with three peanuts inside. So God as a whole is the peanut as a whole, and the individual persons of God are the individual peanuts inside the shell. So both are three in one, and yet one in the same. When God sent his son to Earth, I imagine it like taking one of the peas from the pod. That peanut is now separate and distinct from the whole peanut. Just as Jesus, to my understanding was separate and distinct from God. But after Jesus’s death and resurrection, he rejoined God. Like putting the peanut back into the shell. Now it is part of the one individual peanut again, which again consists of three different nuts. Did this make any sense?
Jesus and the father are the same being but different persons. It's different from humans who are one being and one person or animals who are beings but not persons. The closest example I can give you is your spirit is not your body is not your soul but all are you.
And ˹remember˺ when Jesus, son of Mary, said, “O children of Israel! I am truly Allah’s messenger to you, confirming the Torah which came before me, and giving good news of a messenger after me whose name will be Aḥmad.”1 Yet when the Prophet came to them with clear proofs, they said, “This is pure magic.”
قال تعالى : "وَإِذْ قَالَ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ يَا بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ إِنِّي رَسُولُ اللَّهِ إِلَيْكُم مُّصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيَّ مِنَ التَّوْرَاةِ وَمُبَشِّرًا بِرَسُولٍ يَأْتِي مِن بَعْدِي اسْمُهُ أَحْمَدُ فَلَمَّا جَاءَهُم بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ قَالُوا هَذَا سِحْرٌ مُّبِينٌ" سورة الصف آية:٦ Please write the ayah in Arabic with English Not only English
“One distinct person praying to another distinct person,” while both being God, doesn’t make any sense. It’s basically polytheism. If Jesus is God, why is he not all powerful like God “the father?” Your belief doesn’t make sense, no matter how many word games you play to justify your cognitive dissonance. I applaud you for further strengthening my belief in Islam, and exposing just how illogical your belief is. Subhanallah
@@TheFDDP I never used it as evidence to support Islam, that comes from reading the Quran. But it stands that the explanations for these things make way more sense in the Quran, which I encourage you to read for yourself and think critically about which is more logical
@@WhatDoYouWant000 if you haven’t read the Quran, your opinion is not valid. There are no logical inconsistencies in the Quran my brother. I encourage you to read it for yourself
Corinthians 6:12 reads, “Everything is permissible for me-but not everything is beneficial. Everything is permissible for me-but I will not be mastered by anything.” This declaration that “I will not be mastered by anything” is cited as evidence that addictions such as smoking are sinful from a Christian perspective.
So what my Christian brother did here was: Someone: Questioning the whole concept of Trinity Through the Text (of Bible) that is arguably the source of Trinity. He: To understand whether Trinity is rational and believable, you just need to believe it first and then look at it. Everything will make sense.😅 No wonder mate 😊
@@sioso576, jesus said in the bible, anything you eat does not make you unclean.butbwhat comes from your mouth makes you unclean, for it comes from the heart. Jesus also said , those who just make a show of following him without following his rules he will not recognise. Further jesus said, God is love,big you can't live the person you can see how can you love God you can't see? Your heart must be right and not the show!
@@niobserver1073 no I'm talking about the fake Jesus in the Bible the one that gives you the permission to eat pork the one that changed dad's Sabbath to Sunday the one that has you thinking that he's a white man with blue eyes the one that teaches you to celebrate his birthday on the 25th of the one that teaches you to hunt for Easter eggs the one that completely contradicts what God has taught in the Old testament the one that teaches you that there's a sun god that's somehow a part of this triune God the one that teaches you practices that completely aligned with Roman paganism which has the Jesus that they teach you in your new testament Which I kind of find it kind of many things I do Christians believe such as death is promised because the sin of Adam so people technically died because they are sinful yet Jesus peace be upon him who was sinless which we also believe but you believe he died on the cross which completely contradicts who the Messiah was going to be to the Jewish people it was a part of their plan so you keep convincing them that you killed the man and they're going to keep assuming that Jesus is not their Jewish Messiah
You embrace Islam meaning you left whaf Christ gave in you, you left the Holy Spirit, you left the Eucharist, you left the Jewish traits in Christianity. And bitch please, Paul wrote the EPISTLES, Not the GOSPELS. It's John, Matthew, Luke, and Mark. Perhaps you will said, it's Johnity, it's Matthewity, it's Markity, and it's Lukity instead of Christianity.
“They are distinct but not separate is self-contradictory”. Being distinct means they are separate beings/ entities. If God is one then he’s ultimately praying to himself. If he’s 3 distinct entities then God is a plural (which is polytheism). Hence the problem with the trinity.
@UCJl1WYiN2svTkUsuZzGQK4g Polytheism is the belief in: • A False deity or more than one god They include, the belief that: • God has literal relatives • a separate being is literally a part of God’s essence. • that something can challenge God even slightly or is not fully bound by God. That’s polytheism^ ••• What you’re describing sounds like a car with 3 main parts. Yea, it’s one car, but the car has distinct parts. claiming something ‘created’ is a part of the God is where the problem lies. It’s mixing the essence of God with something created - hence it’s polytheistic. Here’s a question for you my friend, How do you differentiate the True God from a false deity ?
Okay than answer me this: Is the word of Allah… Allah? If the word of Allah is not Allah and the attributes of Allah are not Allah and are distinct but also they are eternal, how does that not mean the same (since you said distinct means separate)?
@@milkyway4623 The word came *from* Him. The word is not *a part* of Him. & God’s characteristics are qualities that describe Him, not distinct living beings/ entities. There’s a clear difference between a quality that describes God & what God owns (like property).
@@Ami-rb2hu dont speak like it not happening in islam dear Ami. some muslim converted to other religion. It comes both ways. Maybe theyre confused too.👁️
as a Muslim I'm going to say this ok I am a CEO my friend is also the CEO of the same store but at a different location I listen to this friend abought avry thang I take orders from him but where on the same level right so why am I'm taking order from a guy that I same level as me where both CEOs this dose not make sense its like god praying to ANOTHER GOD btw no hate love you dude just needed to say that so you can understand where I'm coming from and as Muslim how a thank.
@@timinator900 Well no, if an all powerful being becomes limited then it ceases ti be all powerful. If we take the logic that God can do literally anything even things that contradict his nature than God doing all sorts of ungodly things becomes possible.
@@timinator900not really,god clearly says there's nothing like him,even in bible it says God is not a man But even if you ignore that where it stop How about Hindus they have millions of God's is that plausible for you??ancient Egyptians worshipped cats,according to your method,couldn't God b in that form??for me there's no need for God to come in any form,this does not befit his majesty
John 10 verse 30 *I and my father are one* Hebrews 1:6 (Angels *Worshiped* Jesus) *And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.* Hebrews 1:2 (Jesus Created The Entire World) *hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds* John chapter 8:58 (Jesus was before Abraham) *“Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am the one.” I am the one.”* John 14:9 (Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father) *Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?* John 3:16 (No one comes the father except through me) *Behold the lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. The only path to salvation is by Jesus. Jesus said, I am the way, the truth, and the Life, no one comes to the Father except through me.*
There is no reason to take this verse to mean that Christ [Maseeh Alayhissalaam] was saying that he and the Father make up “one God.” The phrase was a common one, and even today if someone used it, people would know exactly what he meant-he and his father are very much alike. When Paul wrote to the Corinthians about his ministry there, he said that he had planted the seed and Apollos had watered it. Then he said, “he who plants and he who waters are one” (1 Cor. 3:8 - KJV). In the Greek texts, the wording of Paul is the same as that in John 10:30, yet no one claims that Paul and Apollos make up “one being.” Furthermore, the NIV translates 1 Corinthians 3:8 as “he who plants and he who waters have one purpose.” Why translate the phrase as “are one” in one place, but as “have one purpose” in another place? In this case, translating the same phrase in two different ways obscures the clear meaning of Christ’s statement in John 10:30: Christ always did God’s will; he and God have “one purpose.”
@@MSNEDITZ Revelation 22:13 - I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. you can mald all you want but no manipulation and twisting of words you are capable of can change the meaning of this
@@user-un2rn4ck5j fine then here… John 10 verse 30 *I and my father are one* Hebrews 1:6 (Angels *Worshiped* Jesus) *And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.* Hebrews 1:2 *hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds* John chapter 8:58 *“Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am the one.” I am the one.”* John 14:9 *Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?* John 3:16 *Behold the lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. The only path to salvation is by Jesus. Jesus said, I am the way, the truth, and the Life, no one comes to the Father except through me.*
I worship only one God, I bear witness that there is none worthy of worship except Allah, so you don't need to tire your smokey voice my ears are tired from listening to it
It's means Christianity is not monotheism but prophet Abraham is father of monotheism and it means he follow 1 god . It's not confusing my Christian buddy...
they say also oh why God wants us to worship him this way, there are many reasons and one of them is actually that position is very healthy for the lower back.
For people that are confuesed. Allow me to explain "The Father is the one who thinks, designs, and plans. Yeshua is the one who gives the command, the voice, the action, the Verb. The Holy Spirit is the one who executes, the one who creates. The three work in synchrony because they are One."
"its not the eyes that are blind, it is the heart." [22:46]
Your losing the argument 😂
Indeed ❤
Strike your women in bed 4:33
@@LCS650god pray to god super logical thing
@@LCS650no you are, pagan polytheist🤣🫵🏽
The word trinity is not mentione in whole bible
But quran mentions twice : dont say trinity ,there is only one god ❤😊
Yeah the trinity would be three beings that are the same being one god
The word TAWHID is not mentioned in the Quran. What now?
It even shows how ignorant the Quran author was by not mentioning the trinity correctly. What a "whole knowing"....
@@danielgomessilva8966 tawhid comes from the word Ahad meaning one and that is repeated in Surah 112 which is all about God's oneness. Tip for future: if you see an arabic word, go to its root word first
@@haithamkhan4782so it is not in the Quran 😅
Actually according to the explanation of the guy above you it's mentioned in the Quran in the adjective form (ahad)...
But in Arabic if you want to talk about it and explain it because it's a big science in the religious sciences in which you need to go in deep details about that adjective in order to define it and understand it well, so you need to call the noun form (infinitive) just like any other science.
Just get a name in any science you want to study such as chemistry, biology, literature... They're all in noun forms... So it's very logical but the thing is that you don't seem to know much Arabic to understand it cuz English and trinity are all over your mind 😅
No offense ❤@@Shawn03.
Jesus: "I'm not God"
Christians: "we don't believe you"
😂😂
You missed something, jesus didnt say that
Matthew 14:27 aramaic bible " I am the living god"
@@imaginegettingyeeted7336nothing funny
@@sxdfovijsodijfgsdiofjsiodj3376 John 17:3.
فَإِنَّهَا لَا تَعْمَى الْأَبْصَارُ وَلَكِنْ تَعْمَى الْقُلُوبُ الَّتِي فِي الصُّدُورِ
["Its Not The Eyes That Are Blinded,But The Heart"]
Quran [22:46]
it is because you can't understand Qur'an scientifically, logically, it requires faith to understand thats why Mohammad(PBUH) fools you to believe on something came out of nowhere you must be blind to understand your religion.
"its easier to fool people than to convince them"
-Mohammad
إله يصلي مع ملائكته لإنسان نكح ما طاب له من النساء! أكثر من ذلك عمى لا يوجد
😂😂😂 you make no sense @@Nu_uh51
@@muslimguy000 like the Qur'an itself?
@@muslimguy000prisoners
Jesus is a messenger of God who believe
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Easa (AS) is a prophet of Allah
Nuh uh@@QyuIsMe
@@QyuIsMe Jesus is God
Jesus is God in the flesh
@@SoloSilence how? Was god born? Did he have a mother? How can god be a man, Jesus is a mortal, he is a man who rose to the heavens, he did not die, Allah (swt) commanded jibraeel to lift Jesus up, jesus will come back and live a normal life, he will get married, have kids, and die.
It doesn't make sense to anyone, not only him. Your "explanation" made it even worse 😂
😂😂
😂 absolutely made it worse
He is stupid.
He said that the Jesus on earth is not God bruh he himself stated that trinity doesn't exist 💀
@@fratramadan2823 what's so controversial is allah praying for mohammad. To who does allah pray to??
the bible has been changed over 30,000 times, but the Quran hasn't been changed once.
like if you agree👇
I liked
It’s different translations
Too bad, f#ck islam
@@Follower-of-orthodoxyno they collected the pages of the quran that means they know the quran again and even back then they had people who memorize it so they made copy of the writing of the original you can get a 1000 year old quran and a modern quran and you will find no difference hope allah guide you❤
The Quaran even says the Bible is the truth. Not only that, the Holy Bible was carefully translated and written and believe it or not, by people who are very well educated.
Do a little research and you'll find out how well written the Holy Bible is.
This entire video: "just trust me bro"
Then why cant allah become a man but he is all powerful and all mighty so is he or is he not?
@@Amm_16 to become human is to become mortal and vulnerable. And Allah is neither
According to God he can be anything or everything and even doing many things at the same time but can't he be a man and God at the same time like Jesus guy? I think Jesus guy is more powerful than Islam god
😂😂😂😂😂
@@Black0ghost Samson was there
Smoking a cigar while talking about god is like saying ur vegan while cooking a steak
No it's not. Nothing sinful about tobacco.
A better analogy would be calling yourself a prophet of God and then marrying and raping a child.
😂😂fr dude
I see my comment was removed. I'll say it again, Tobacco is not sinful.
Whats worse is claiming to be a prophet of God and then marrying a 6 year old.
Brother your so blind. You just follow rumors wnd things people sad without seeking the truth. I wish for you to not remain biased@@heavybar3850
@@heavybar3850what’s worse is you not doing your research
He thought he gave a logical answer but he just restated the trinity again 😂
"trinity = 3 gods" getting too old there now 😂, but alright
Jesus christ is god, muhammad was a pedo and "allah" word didnt come from islam, but it came from egyptian archaic god's name - "al lah" and "lah yah" islam isnt original, it copies from jewish talmud and bible passages. Muhammad beheaded 800 jewish men, married 12 women (1 child too at the age of 6 and was consummated underage, at 9. There are proofs that back this claim too, so the argument that aisha was 18 is debunked, also because muslim scholars believe she was underage. Not only that, there are also hadith that show muhammad kissed p3nis of hassan and hussain who were young people.)
There is also major major mistake in islamic quran that says seminal fluid is formed between backbone and ribs. This is disproved by modern day science and the claim that it was meant "loins" is also disproven because there is no such source that proves semen is formed at loins.islamic prophet's cousin was actually christian. Prophet muhammad spread islam by war, there are also keypoints that prove islam isnt true, because one of it is that it is "NOT PEACEFUL" which is correct. Christian crusades started WAY after islamic jihad in kingdom of jerusalem, so the claim that "christianity did far worse than muslims" is very untrue and rubbish. Also, italy was plundered by muslim armies. Also there are NUMEROUS SAHIH hadiths that contradict the authenticity of quran and the claim that "quran is word of god". If quran was word of god, then it must have no mistakes. It does. (Link to prove quran is false)
wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Errors_in_the_Quran
Also, embryology of quran is not correct and was copied straight off from Greek scientist Galen at the time of islamic establishment.
Muslims hate to answer the question " where does sun go at night in islam"
And here is the list of sins by muhammad, who plundered, persecuted, razed and looted christian villages, while also being the man between the g3noc1de against people of Bane Qurayza tribe, also while being the one behind consummation of Aisha.
(Ray butlers comment)
www.quora.com/What-are-the-negative-things-done-by-the-prophet-Mohammed
And also, there are ongoing terrorist groups made by muslims , in the will to kill christians in places where muslims waged war, conquered and plundered residencies. However, muslims are living peacefully in christian countries and wealth.
CONCLUSION : islam isnt right, repent and come to Yeshua of nazareth if you want to see the light, before it is too late.
DEUS VULT, IC XC NI KA
Shut up and go back to your prophets
bro it make sense and I have a question how did Allah need Hadith and also he said love everyone but also said love everyone
@@sxdfovijsodijfgsdiofjsiodj3376 There aren't three gods, God the father, The son, and the holy spirit are one in mind.
Me and my cat and my dog are separate beings, but we are one. But if i kill my dog, i kill myself but we are 3 different beings, so that is not controversial but we are all one being.
Does that also make sense to the "trinitarians"?
So if I throw you a bone you jump to fetch it? Or do you stay on your front loaw while your dog sleeps in your bed? Does your cat fill your plat with milk for you to drink?
@@ACertainMan😂😂😂 so true brother
So if the Son isn't the Father and they are both God, then you believe in 2 Gods... shaming people for not understanding your cult does nothing when the rest of us follow the actual Bible.
which is
His answer is more complicated than advanced physics
Bro people learning about rocket science be sayin * it isn’t why Jesus prayed on earth *.
Trinity, another name for Tri-Unity is a triange type shape with 3 distinct persons, The father in heaven, The son (jesus), and the holy spirit, they are all distinct people of 1 reality, God.
this sounds really confusing bro.. search up a trinity diagram and it'll make it'll clear it up a bit more.
Sorry you failed basic secondary education
@@Atomic0907 ye I don’t think education will tell me how 3 people are separate but the same person the people studying rocket science be saying * it’s not an explanation to why God worshiped himself *
No it’s not it’s called the holy Trinity dumbass
It’s not the eyes that are blind,it is the heart.” [22:46]
-QURAN
Funny because in the Quran, Allah prays. Who does he pray to? Himself? Just because you don't understand the concept of the Trinity does not mean your lie-ridden false religion must be true and Christianity is false.
@@RaidenDEVOUR don't tell mistake to misguide other, the real meaning is this: Scholars are of the opinion that Allah's "prayer" on His Prophet - peace and blessings be upon him - is a Mercy that He showers on him. Likewise, the prayers of angels are an invocation of God's forgiveness in his favor, and those of believers an invocation in his favor. Indeed, we are invited to pray to Allah to increase His honors and favors towards the Prophet - peace and blessings be upon him.
Numerous texts show with certainty that Allah granted His Messenger - peace and blessings be upon him - innumerable blessings. However, our invocation constitutes a gesture of love towards him.
The meaning is this: Scholars are of the opinion that Allah's "prayer" on His Prophet - peace and blessings be upon him - is a Mercy that He showers on him. Likewise, the prayers of angels are an invocation of God's forgiveness in his favor, and those of believers an invocation in his favor. Indeed, we are invited to pray to Allah to increase His honors and favors towards the Prophet - peace and blessings be upon him.
Numerous texts show with certainty that Allah granted His Messenger - peace and blessings be upon him - innumerable blessings. However, our invocation constitutes a gesture of love towards him.
If nobody believes that the verse is from the Quran
Here’s the proof
The statement "It is not the eyes that are blind, but the heart" is a paraphrase of a verse from the Quran, specifically Surah Al-Hajj (22:46), This statement means that it is not physical blindness that prevents a person from seeing the truth, but rather a lack of understanding or a closed mind.
Ppl say jesus is god and he is the son of god which one like.bro
Jesus is fully human and fully God. He is the perfect human and exemplifies His perfection in worship of God, something all humans should do. His relationship with God the father is representative of a perfect relationship a person can have with Him
never in my life i have made myself confused that much than having a problem in physics💀
Talking about god while smoking a cigar btw just wanted to mention this
Lol fr
So I am not the only one noticed it. 🙁
Muslims blowing up stuff while talking about god in their planes and doing what god wants them to do ‼️🔥
This guy is trying too hard to act sigma (the video creator)
@@yousaf_editz fr
Bro… you really didn’t help the situation.
Yes he did he opened my eyes even more. Please respond so I can help you to if not I just have to assume you are a bot
@@wolfkai8583church made up the trinity 😂😂
@@MMM.l they made the trinity based off scripture which I’m sure the Holy Spirit was the guide to helping put it together.
@@wolfkai8583 but there’s no mention in the scripture of trinity
@@MMM.l can I give you a verse from the old testament about the trinity?
1 Timothy 2:5 "For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus," no trinity required, even the Bible authors knew Jesus was the true Prophet of Allah
People will believe water comes in 3 forms but not God!!!
You just made it more confusing
Hahahahahaha... The M word gonna rise
😂 true
Was thinking same thing....
When you don't care to understand theism outside of an islamic perspective, Then everything confuses you.
Confusing you is extremely easy because you refuse to educate yourself.
And we can't be held responsible for that.
Ask 100 Christians about “ Who is Jesus” and you will have 100 different answers. Soon new updated Testimony level 3 will come out….
thanks for your explanation! i was a muslim before this, but now i am still a muslim.
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Alhamdulillah, For a moment, I felt disappointed for you and .....😂❤️
❤😂
Now you can own slaves and marry a 6 year old
Mohammad (Police be upon him) the pedophile is the founder of islam😂😂😂
Why only Jesus pray to the Father?
Why doesn’t Jesus pray to Holy Spirit or the Father pray to Jesus & Holy Spirit, or Holy Spirit praying to the Father & Jesus?
Why only 1 of the 3 (Jesus) only prays to 1 of the 3 (Father) if they are all co-equally powerful on the same level?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 It's a bunch of BS
EXACTLY 😭😭😭😭
Why doesn't allah pray to allah
@@MatiasLemus-tl3he Why would Allah pray to Allah? He has created angels and all the living things that exists (excluding few humans and jinns) to worship Him.
@@Farzana831 because if allah prayed to Muhammed then who else did allah pray to
When Jesus entered Jerusalem, the whole city was stirred and asked, “Who is this?” The crowds answered, “This is Jesus, the prophet from Nazareth in Galilee.”
love how the channel is called “voice of reason” but he says anything but reason
😅😅 👏
You're too narrow minded to understand this
@@SoloSilence so I have to be retarded and slow mentally to understand this nonsense? Ok thx bro
Your reason is the quran where stones come to life and ran away with peoples clothes
@dmn5309 bro stop pulling stuff out of ur ass
After i heard your explanations, i feels bless to be a muslim. Alhamdulillah
Surah 33:56 who is your allah praying to….
@@danieldamie5806 Here's the verse:"Indeed, Allah confers blessing upon the Prophet, and His angels [ask Him to do so]. O you who have believed, ask [ Allah to confer] blessing upon him and ask [ Allah to grant him] peace." where does allah pray to the prophet. also you will never find allah pray to anyone in the quran but you could find allah prays upon or for his prophets.
Pls don't spread lies or send me another verse to support your claim
@@danieldamie5806 "Indeed, Allah showers His blessings upon the Prophet, and His angels pray for him. O believers! Invoke Allah’s blessings upon him, and salute him with worthy greetings of peace." Verse 33:56 what about it ? it seems you're struggling with arabic and english at the same time.
@@danieldamie5806nice try 😂 you been refuted Islam ain't trinity boy
Quran have written in the same way
How Gabriel said message to prophet.
So that makes u feel tht allah is praying to himself
It's not the eyes that are blind it's the brain that's dead
GUYS CAN YOU STOP HATING ON THIS GUY?! If you want ppl to be Islam then don’t raid the comment section
Its good to show him his wrong about everything, when I hear him speak PAGAN words that is even worse, can you check this just DID JESUS ALLOWED YOU TO BUILD STATOE OF HIM? DID JESUS ALLOWE YOU TO CREATE CROSS and POPE AND PRIESTS AND SAINTS? Noo! Did Jesus created Holyday? NOO! Who created all these? The ROMANS! And why after Jesus never came back to aprove all these? BECAUSE its fake and PAGANS way of worshiping they just used JESUS name to manipulate people like it was his religion it never was the way he teached his diciples friends 12 of them were Killed some by spear some by public execution some by poison some by sword all 12 died in short time after Jesus, which leaves us only one OPINION the ROMANS were pagans they worshiped Statoe and had pagan Holydays they had Priest who did pagan rituals and sacrifices and they had Star and Cross whichbthey used to torture and burn people and they Used the Cross as sign of rwligion remember Jesus hated cross and while being on Cross he prayed to GOD CREATOR and remember this too JESUS HAD MOTHER so he is HUMAN and ADAM AND EVA had no mother and no father but they are not children of GOD. If this helps you rethink than think better who manipulatd you all these years.
As the Quran says: "It is not the eyes that are blind, but the heart"
You need the Holy Spirit to be your leader and guide and revealer and teacher
Satan blinds the mind the father of all lies, but the Holy Spirit breaks through that blind ( the brick wall) and reveals the true will of God. The Holy Spirit is the greater one and the great comforter
The Holy Spirit is a gentleman and only goes where he is welcome
Only when Jesus returns and he establishes his true Church and true believers redeemed by the blood and walk in faith and love and Spirit will we know true peace under the shadow of his wings as a hen gathered her chicks
Till then Satan is putting up a great enormous battle against the Church
Jesus said: I will build my Church and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it
Jesus is returning for "his Church" all who belong to him. (Many denominations have believers in our great God and Savior Jesus Christ)
Jesus alone will rien Supreme as Lord and King of all the earth. 😊
The Qur'an was made in 1924 slapped together to make a standard book 📚 of great lies
The most deprived book ever on the face of the earth
Satan blinds our minds thats why you need the Holy Spirit to be your teacher and guide and power to break through that blind. Satan's stronghold.
Manmade religions will be abolished 📚🤷♀️
Jesus is coming soon. ✝️
Thank-you God
@@user-tp3hg4se1s Bro wrote a whole entire paragraph of how NOT to get in to Jannah
@@aed7954 And you got a book which cannot be understood without entire extra books dated 200 years after Islam.
As the Quran also says: "As for your women past the age of menstruation, in case you do not know, their waiting period is three months, and those who have not menstruated as well. As for those who are pregnant, their waiting period ends with delivery.1 And whoever is mindful of Allah, He will make their matters easy for them."
This is disgusting
That concept comes directly from the Bible.
Thank you for sharing this!! As a Christian, I’m Muslim now 😭
check sam shamoun, he debunks islam.
@@santino_111gaming3 lol what a joke he and the clown David wood got wrecked by sheikh Uthman there are videos..stop lying 🤡
Your amazing women may Allah protect you and bless you and your family
He is a joker not more then that
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Check Sheikh Uthman. Sam really ran from him like a baby and gave all the burden to David wood alone!!
Really poor argument from this Christian brother. Silly that at this point, people try to make rational arguments out of blatant contradiction
When I was younger I questioned me that but I read the Bible and then all started to make sense
Christianity is not religion, It's confusion. 😅
Trinity requires faith to understand.
3 in 1 same nature but not individuals
After I heard his explanation, I feel blessed to be a Muslim, alhamdulillah
@@fahadmohammed473 yeah cuz Christianity is not a religion its a connection to God not confusion
@@Nu_uh51 do you believe in monotheism?
@@fahadmohammed473 yes I do I believe in one God
Remember, if the world hates you, it has hated me first -Yeshua
We love isa or yeshua (pbuh) bro . He is a beloved prophet and the massiah
@@testiestsauce43shut up. U don’t. All you guys do is spread blasphemy disguised in respect. Jesus was sinless, no man is sinless. Not Mohammed. Not you or me. Jesus Christ is god and it’s disrespectful to say otherwise.
@TestSGaming isa isn't even His Name or close. Jesus is Lord and Muslims will go to Hell. uthman is scared to debate an actual scholar. Modern Debate a massive youtube channel tried to get Uthman to debate Sam Shamoun for months now and Uthman denied. He doesn't want a One vs One fair debate on a massive mutual debate platform channel with many views.
The world love him then hated him betrayal
@@testiestsauce43 lol when did Theseus turn into yeshua
Trinitarianism began 4 centuries after Jesus died...
Funny, Muslims are using this verse to "prove" Jesus was a Muslim, because he fell on his face, while forgetting Jesus is saying he is praying to the FATHER, where the god of the quran says he is not a father 🤔
The bible has changed over the years.
2+2= 5 because 2 is actually 2.5 💀
Look here is more nonsense
Trinity explain:
1+1+1=1-false
1×1×1=1-true
©Sam Shamoun🤓
But they are not the same, one prays to other and other is greater than the other, the third is unknown
--I don't give a f*ck(©Sam Shamoun🤓)
The other one where Sam tried to explain trinity:
Sam:How many doors does the car have ?
-4
Sam:Tires?
-4
Sam:See it is one car but has different parts
-But it is made of more than tires , and doors.in fact it has more than 100 parts
Sam:Shut up and listen to me."i am a scolar you are a donkey"(quoted from CP's- the teacher of Sam Shamoun )
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These are jokes with some truth from Sam's debades
Seriously why no christian till this cp and Sam knew about quran being totally wrong or Muhammad pbuh totally bad guy just these two have found out what Christians couldn't do for 1400??
Let's just laugh together for these idiots
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Yep
HAHAHAAH LITERALLY
No because +sign has a 1 in the middle so technically it's a minus not plus so that equals to infinity
The whole concept of trinity doesn't make sense how can he accept this
Nah, you talk about beliving in some force that is all might. It does not make sense. But you still belive in.
@@stachpema452it does though
It would make sense if you have sense 😂😂😂 ✝️👑✝️
@@Tops470Right, coming from the people that argue 1+1+1=1...
@@BennySavage-gj2ft it would be better if you consider 1x1x1=1.
If bro should shut his damn voice
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Bro what nonsense are you trying to justify
Honestly as a muslim I appreciate that you answered in a kind and respectfull way even though I dont see reason in your explanation.
God the son was talking to the father it’s not that hard to comprehend that.
@@unwarysage05w32what were they talking?
They discussing about any decision to be made or they just chating?
"Son of god talking to god" sounds very realistic
Yeah and then in another video he starts cursing at the Quran
It's because you are looking at it with a unitarian perspective. We Christians believe in the Trinity, which is most easily explained as 3=1, so it's 1 God, but 3 Persons, and each Person is 100% the One true God. The 3 Persons are not separate, they are distinct, and under that perspective, there is nothing incoherent with one Person talking (praying) to another.
@@Hugowtum why would god talk to eachother?
Because god should be all knowing so god would know the outcome from the conversation
I think it would be amazing if you can reach out to sheikh uthman and have a conversation with him.
trust he won't ever dare to have a debate with the son of zakir naik. Some will never admit the truth even if it is clear to them that their scripture is corrupted. So preaching is the new trend. I bet you that he is getting paid for every video he posts on social media.
Thank ALLAH for the blessing of being a muslim
@@nadimnaouach5839ah yes the same god that allowed your false prophet muhammad to go and marry the ex wife of his adopted son who he had sex with.
Or when he had sex with a 9 year old. Hmm very holy indeed.
Or when muhammad licked and got his saliva on the black stone in mecca
I would like that too, but he would never do that, because he would be destroyed😂
Fr tho u would be destroyed admit it !
he would be destroyed
Jesus is a messenger of ALLAH
It doesn't make sense to him because it doesn't make any sense at all
Very good explanation, thank god for Islam, which makes so much more sense and connects history.
With all respect, islam actually came as a reversal of established historical traditions, understanding, and religion. First and most obvious it reverses the divinity of Jesus, something that had been believed, discussed, and understood for hundreds of years as well as by the eyewitnesses of Jesus who died for this belief. The quran also acts as a complete reversal to Jewish religious history literally acting as the polar opposite so much so that it almost reads as an “anti-Bible.” To say that islam connect history and the Bible doesn’t is nonsensical. The quran was written during the time of recorded history while the Bible provides information for otherwise uncovered areas of history such as the bronze age. The Bible is far more of a historical book-in exploration and In reality
@@everythingwwe2800 what if I tell you that Jesus is a Messenger and the Father know that eyewitnesses will misunderstood Jesus and that is why The Father (Allah) said in the Bible that there will be another Messenger that will come after Jesus and you all must Follow Him and Mohamed was mentioned in the Bible Jesus' gospel, they say is in Mark 1:7, where Jesus prophesied of Muhammad, "There cometh after Me he that is mightier than I".
@@ziiv6389that was John speaking about Jesus. You've never read the bible bro. That isn't Jesus speaking, that is John the Baptist saying make way for The Lord Jesus (who is GOD read Isaiah 40.)
@@JaDiLoco if it John who is speaking and not Jesus or The Father (Allah) so why is it in the Bible ??
The Bible was suppose to be The Father (Allah) words BUT!! it was changed By Humans!!!!!!!!! and Humans make mistake that is why the Bible today is full of lies and THAT is why the GOD Father sent another Prophit Mohamed to correct the changes that happened to the bible By giving us new HOOLY Book The Quran to follow
I read some of the Bible why dont you read some of the Quran
here is some verses to start with
When it is said to them, “Follow what Allah has revealed,” they reply, “No! We ˹only˺ follow what we found our forefathers practicing.” ˹Would they still do so,˺ even if their forefathers had ˹absolutely˺ no understanding or guidance? (170)
The example of the disbelievers ˹not responding to the Messenger’s warning˺ is like a flock not comprehending the calls and cries of the shepherd. ˹They are wilfully˺ deaf, dumb and blind so they have no understanding. (171) (2:170 and 171)
As for those who persist in disbelief, it is the same whether you warn them or not-they will never believe (6) Allah has sealed their hearts and their hearing, and their sight is covered. They will suffer a tremendous punishment (7) (2:6 and 7)
(Dont be one of this people)
Those who have no knowledge say, “If only Allah would speak to us or a sign would come to us!” The same was said by those who came before. Their hearts are all alike. Indeed, We have made the signs clear for people of sure faith (118) We have surely sent you with the truth ˹O Prophet˺ as a deliverer of good news and a warner. And you will not be accountable for the residents of the Hellfire (119) (2:118 and 119)
@@JaDiLoco Here some verses in the Quran read it
When it is said to them, “Follow what Allah has revealed,” they reply, “No! We ˹only˺ follow what we found our forefathers practicing.” ˹Would they still do so,˺ even if their forefathers had ˹absolutely˺ no understanding or guidance? (170) The example of the disbelievers ˹not responding to the Messenger’s warning˺ is like a flock not comprehending the calls and cries of the shepherd. ˹They are wilfully˺ deaf, dumb and blind so they have no understanding (171) (2:170 and 171)
If those 3 Gods are not separated, why should Jesus need to pray?
Because God the father an the son of God are one but separate just like your father on earth an mother have you in a family sense your all one meaning came from the same bloodline an yet your separate individuals come on its common sense
@@jholyroller6048they are one but separate, what
@@sammypie5501persons. And they are communicating because prayer=communication
Why should Jesus need to pray?
That's a good question and a lot of other people have asked, because they don't understand and to them it doesn't make sense, which is valid.
I kindly ask you to listen with an open mind.
An easy answer to that is: Jesus is our example in human form
Jesus is the word of God (John 1 :1) He is the word made flesh (v14)
- Jesus is our example in the flesh.
Meaning a physical human being. So when Jesus says "My God" or is praying to God the Father, He is giving us an example of how we should communicate with God.
Jesus was a human being when he walked the earth. In Micah 4:2 which was in the old testament, it was before Jesus existed, it said "He will teach us his ways, so that we may walk in his paths."
- The things that Jesus did or taught, we should do as well. Love God and Love others (the two greatest commandments)
Another example is Jesus's baptism at 30 years old. He didn't need to get baptised, because the purpose of baptism is to belong to God and removal of sins
2 Corinthians 5:21 and 1 John 3:5 claims that Jesus was without sin! Yet He was still baptised to set as an example of what believers should do.
In many cases Jesus is fulfilling the prophecies of what the prophets said in the oldtestament
One of which was in Mark 15:34 when Jesus calls out to God "my God my God Why have you forsaken me?" He is quoting Psalms 22:1
If we we’re supposed to walk his path, or he shows the way of god, wtf would he look like if he didn’t pray. If he was supposed to show us worship and salvation, we would never have a basis if Jesus had a god complex and cared about himself and not others. Every human being on earth should pray in the eyes of god. If god puts himself in human form, not a godly form of himself on earth, then of course he would pray, that’s the rule he has for humans. "I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore, whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. "And whoever welcomes a little child like this in my name welcomes me. A god needs to be humble as well
By that logic, the father should also pray to jesus, but it never happen
“The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are distinct, but they are not separated”. Distinct and separated are synonymous.
There is no God but allah and Mohammed and Jesus are the messengers
Other then Mohammed all profits talked about Jesus being salvation and suffering for the people .
@@uwohiyuhi-achoogi456i think u forgot the oart where we dont believe in the bible cause its corrupt in our book every messenger preached that god is one and u shoukd worship him alone.
Muhammad the pedophile. Give me a break
No disrespect bro, but honestly your reasoning is why hundreds of thousands of Christians revert to Islam. They can’t be separate entities and one entity at the same time. Being God means you aren’t dependent on another being for anything.
They are the same essence, three distinct beings, Just like how i'm Body soul and spirit. My body isn't my soul and my soul isn't spirit and my spirit isn't my Body. How can you even dare and try to say How God "should" be. We don't question how Jesus walked on water, fed 4 thousand people with 2 fishes and 4 loaves. We don't question how God can split seas and flood an entire planet; but here you think you can try and say theres no way He exists other then the way you think he does.
Stop putting God in a box.
and many Christians convert cause they never were Christian and never read the Qur'an.
Muhammad allows slavery, had sex and married with a 9 year old girl, allows prostitution through a marriage loophole, allows his followers to rape married woman gained from war, and promotes a "heaven" that's focused on wicked carnal man infested ideologies "Where men have eternal erections and plow on woman like fields."
@@JaDiLocoyou have to question what is God really is
He never said they were separate, he said they were distinct.
The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are the same ONE person.
It's the ONE same God manifesting Himself in three PERSONALITIES, not persons. Scripture proves this over and over, I encourage us to study to show ourselves approved.
It's like the same ONE YOU being a son/daughter to your parents, a husband/wife to your spouse and a father/mother to your child.
The same ONE you! Just three different titles, not names.
I encourage us to pray about this too as it may sound new to many of y'all... It is basic simple truth.
May God open your understanding. 🙏🏾
I was a christian agnostic before but after hearing this cigar man explaining with mental gymnastic, i become a totaly agnostic.
“Its not the eyes that are blind,it is the heart “
Now I can talk to my son why Islam is the only religion will make sense and pure logic.
Truly wonder if you would want Islam and Sharia if you had 3 daughters
@@tonnytrumpet734 Having 3 rightfully raised daughters makes you automatically enter Jannah
Come to the same point, Jesus says, no one knows that day nor the son but only the father? Islam believe in Jesus, Moses ibraham jakup David nowah , if one Muslim reject one of them prophets he can't be Muslim, alhamdolillah islam is the true religion, Jesus was also Muslim, Muslim means , worship only the true God, God only 1 can't be tow
@@rahatgameing1914If I were a Christian I would prefer to worship Jesus' mother, in my opinion Jesus' mother is greater because she could give birth to God
“distinct but not separate” is literally a contradiction
Edit: corrected my mistake
I was going to make this exact comment, you beat me to it. 😂
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He actually said, "distinct, but not separate"
I do agree though, bro DID NOT explain that correctly...
@@molemomolapo distinct but not separate that doesn't make sense at all. If jesus is god he should be all powerful depedent all knowing and immortal. Jesus moses abraham David noah all of them preached the one god concept. At the end of the day everyone can believe whatever they want but if you love jesus try be honest and figure out what he actually preached because definitely jesus was preaching the gospels or Paul letters
@@mukadoyouseph8614Mohammad is a fraud
Why did Allah pray for Muhammad? Who do Allah pray to Sheikh? Come on answer! The verses are in the Quran that Allah is praying for Muhammad,that means Allah is not God ! There is some God above Allah? Uthman you are silly ! Jesus always conversed with His Father as in the matters of creation and His mission on earth!
Jesus’ words “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing” are found in Luke 23:34. Jesus looked down from the cross upon a scene that must have been distressing to Him. The Roman soldiers were gambling for His clothing (John 19:23-24); the criminals on the crosses to either side of Him were reviling Him (Matthew 27:44); the religious leaders were mocking Him (Matthew 27:41-43); and the crowd was blaspheming Him (Matthew 27:39). Surrounded by this most unworthy lot, Jesus prayed for them. “Father, forgive them” is a prayer of unmatched mercy and love.
Even in His agony, Jesus’ concern was for the forgiveness of those who counted themselves among His enemies. He asked the Father to forgive the thieves on the cross who jeered at Him. He asked the Father to forgive the Roman soldiers who had mocked Him, spit on Him, beat Him, yanked out His beard, whipped Him, put a crown of thorns on His head, and nailed Him to the cross. Jesus asked forgiveness for the angry mob that had mocked Him and called for His crucifixion (Mark 15:29-30).
It is important to note that Jesus’ prayer, “Father, forgive them,” does not mean that everyone was forgiven, unilaterally, without repentance and faith. It does mean that Jesus was willing to forgive them-forgiveness was, in fact, the reason He was on the cross. The words “Father, forgive them” show the merciful heart of God.
Jesus prayed, “Father, forgive them,” because He was fulfilling Old Testament prophecy: “He bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors” (Isaiah 53:12). From the cross, Jesus interceded for sinners. Today, risen and glorified, Jesus remains the “one mediator between God and mankind” (1 Timothy 2:5). Jesus prayed, “Father, forgive them,” because He was putting into practice the principle He had taught in the Sermon on the Mount: “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you” (Matthew 5:43-44). Jesus, the persecuted, prayed for His persecutors.
Coupled with the willingness of Jesus to forgive His tormentors is the fact that they did not know what they were doing (Luke 23:34). The sinners who put Jesus on the cross were ignorant of the true import of their actions. The soldiers personally held no ill will toward Him. They were simply following orders. This was how they normally treated condemned men, and they believed that He truly deserved it. They didn’t know that they were killing the Son of God (see 1 Corinthians 2:8). The mob didn’t really know whom they were trying to destroy. The Jewish leaders had deceived them into believing that Jesus was a fake and a troublemaker (Acts 3:17). In praying “Father, forgive them,” Jesus revealed His infinite mercy; He still loved them and would forgive them if only they would humble themselves and repent (Matthew 18:14; 2 Peter 3:9).
Jesus’ prayer “Father, forgive them” was answered in the lives of many people. The Roman centurion at the foot of the cross, upon seeing how Jesus died, exclaimed, “Surely this man was the Son of God!” (Mark 15:39). One of the two thieves crucified with Jesus exercised faith in Christ, who promised him paradise (Luke 23:39-43). A member of the Sanhedrin publicly aligned himself with Jesus (John 19:39). And, a little over a month later, three thousand people in Jerusalem were saved in one day as the church began (Acts 2:41).
On the cross Jesus provided forgiveness for all those who would ever believe in Him (Matthew 20:28). Jesus paid the penalty for the sins that we commit in our ignorance, and even the ones we’ve committed deliberately. When we are born again, we, too, become an answer to Jesus’ prayer “Father, forgive them.”
If I got a penny for each time a Christian tried to make his belief make sense, I would no doubt be the richest man ever!
It requires faith to understand its beyond human understanding according to the bible
I assume you have that faith, does it make sense to you?@@Nu_uh51
@@Nu_uh51faith isnt enough to achieve absolute certainty. And i dont like that.
I need 100% sure and understanding of what i am worshipping.
Haha nice joke now go back and commit some crimes in the name of thine faith and play the victim afterwards
You just made it sound more confusing than I initially thought it was🤦🏻♂️😂😂😂😂
Because it's false, God is supposed to be in control, now if he prays to someone else how is he supposed to be in control?
@destiny6080 absolutely correct ..God is defined by his greatness over his creation not his creation having the ability to put 'god' on a cross to kill him as a sacrifice for his own creation's sins so he can forgive them ...total nonsense from the get go lol
From the beginning Yashuah was with Yah , we are spirit in the flesh not flesh with a spirit . All major and minor prophets such as Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were given The Holy Spirit of Yah in fact Yah wrestled all night with Yah. Who can know Him completely not know one today the world is upside down a cesspool of rebate minds . The son OF YAH is one in the spirit with The Father and if you deny Him so will my Papa Yah deny you . I am completely ashamed of this world adding and taking from my Yashuas word !! Shameful 😢😭
im an atheist, but look up the definition of trinity, its self explanatory. it made sense
basically a 3 in 1. one entity with 3 manifestations? feel free to correct me, christians.
@@aahhhhhhhhhhhhh Three manifestations of the same being still doesn't explain why one manifestation needs to pray to another manifestation.
One one manifestation knows when judgment day is but another manifestation doesn't.
Why one manifestation asks the other manifestation why he has forsaken him on the cross.
There are many more questions.
Channel calls itself "Voice of Reason".
I have yet to see Reason.
I was a Muslim before watching this video and alhumdulilah I’m still a Muslim ❤ALLAH HU AKBAR
Simple answer - Jesus is showing us what to do in our everyday life.
So why do you do a cross symbol then? Jesus was praying on the ground
@@dog-ye1stthink of it as a sign of respect for Christ sacrificing his life on the cross for everyone, also it is a Catholic behavior not all Christians do the sign of the cross.
@@bananaman862I'm sorry, but genuinely that doesn't seem to make sense.
Like say for example my father died to protect me and benefit my life, but in the process of saving me he was killed by a sword, would it make logical sense for me to carry a sword for the rest of my life to honour his sacrifice.
It just seems strange to honor someone with the thing that killed them.
@@hhermon6415 Jesus knew how he would die and he did it willingly. The whole point of his death was to give everyone the chance to go into heaven by taking our sins from us. At any point he could’ve saved himself and harmed everyone he tried to kill him, but he didn’t and went through with the crucifixion because he knew what had to be done.
@@bananaman862 Erm okay, but that diesnt really answer my point
Sometimes I’m not sure if this guy is a undercover Muslim. His answers seem to validate the Muslim point of view all the time
He always validated about the muslim why he won't validate the Bible , ferst before he comment about Christian , don't tell while Jesus is praying to God Jesus is not God ,
"undercover muslim" 😂😂😂
Jokes aside. Muslims cannot say "yeah I'm a Christian" as a lie like you guys do for war propaganda or for taking from Christian audiences away from islam
@@bernadethcaputli4710if you talk to your father does that make you not a person? Of course not and no one would argue that. So why does Jesus talking to His Father make Him not God? No prophet calls God Father, only the Son Jesus Christ. The trinity is hard to understand and comprehend, but Jesus talking to His Father does not mean He is not God, it only means He is not the Father but is One with the Father as He claims multiple times
@@everythingwwe2800so if David (PBUH) is the son of God then is he also God
@@everythingwwe2800 it is not talk a pray is something a talk is something else.
It didn't say and then Jesus fell on his face and started talking.
it said Jesus fell on his face and started praying.
You see praying is only for God.
Also David according to Jews is the Son of God but not in the same sense as Jesus for Christians.
"Distinct but not separate" means
They're not the same, but they're the same.
Mohamed becoming suicidal and questioning the angel thinking it was a demon should raise awareness that it’s not a true religion
I'm not Christian, but Jesus did everything he did to Show the Way, it is a very very simple concept to understand. Even if he is praying to himself, he is showing the way to live.
Jesus prayed the same way all the others Jews were doing at the time
As a Catholic I agree that Jesus showed the way but nothing what Jesus showed was simple, which is why in John 6 a lot of his disciples left him.
I mean he is not really praying to himself like jesus is not the only entity with god like powers like the father and the holy spirit. But at the end of the day he was roleplaying as a human showing humans how to act
@@Narasimha_TheSher Jesus is God. Just wondering, what faith are you and what people?
@@Narasimha_TheSher Ah ok so atheist? What train of thought or school of thought or philosophy in Atheism brought up that idea? I thought Atheists would say Jesus lied about his divinity (Jesus lied argument) but this is the first time I heard Atheists used the followers lied argument.
Then based on your definition, they are separate gods
No he means Jesus was god of the land thats a saying but he is the son of God
@@VX3LZ
God has many sons besides jesus.are they also god of land?
It is largely beyond human comprehension, but I think of it like this. God is like a peanut. One of those big ones with three peanuts inside. So God as a whole is the peanut as a whole, and the individual persons of God are the individual peanuts inside the shell.
So both are three in one, and yet one in the same.
When God sent his son to Earth, I imagine it like taking one of the peas from the pod. That peanut is now separate and distinct from the whole peanut. Just as Jesus, to my understanding was separate and distinct from God. But after Jesus’s death and resurrection, he rejoined God. Like putting the peanut back into the shell. Now it is part of the one individual peanut again, which again consists of three different nuts.
Did this make any sense?
Jesus and the father are the same being but different persons. It's different from humans who are one being and one person or animals who are beings but not persons. The closest example I can give you is your spirit is not your body is not your soul but all are you.
@@zidane0196That's not what the speaker of the video said. He said they were not the same entity. His logic equates to 2 different Gods
Maybe try googling the difference between distinct and separate lol. Its not the eyes that are blind, it's the heat that is blind.
Who believe Allah
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Muhammad was a pedophile
why did allah pray to prophet if he is god
I was a Muslim when I saw and I'm still a Muslim
@@sanztorres4570he didnt he siad to his people to pray to the prohet allah didnt
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And ˹remember˺ when Jesus, son of Mary, said, “O children of Israel! I am truly Allah’s messenger to you, confirming the Torah which came before me, and giving good news of a messenger after me whose name will be Aḥmad.”1 Yet when the Prophet came to them with clear proofs, they said, “This is pure magic.”
قال تعالى : "وَإِذْ قَالَ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ يَا بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ إِنِّي رَسُولُ اللَّهِ إِلَيْكُم مُّصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيَّ مِنَ التَّوْرَاةِ وَمُبَشِّرًا بِرَسُولٍ يَأْتِي مِن بَعْدِي اسْمُهُ أَحْمَدُ فَلَمَّا جَاءَهُم بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ قَالُوا هَذَا سِحْرٌ مُّبِينٌ"
سورة الصف
آية:٦
Please write the ayah in Arabic with English
Not only English
debate me lil bro
Christ is king ✝️ 👑
@@santino_111gaming3 Yes Yaoi believe Jesus is God but I don’t I believe he was a messenger of God
torah came from moses, injil came from jesus, quran came from muhammed.
only one not able to be corrupted is the quran
Mark 10:18. ‘Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good except God alone.’ Do we really need to say more than this?
Why would God make his religion complicated?
that why islam is more easier to understand..His answer is more complicated than women🗿🗿🗿🗿
Eh, I don’t understand why Mohamed mounted a 9 year old playing with dolls.
thats not funny, (coming from a muslim)
He just wants to make this video to stand in his astraying belief not to
He made perfect sense, you guys just aren't that bright.
@@SoloSilence What your books told you was different from what you believe in
if a distinct person is praying to another distinct person that makes the one thay is prayed to is greater than the one who is praying.
Guys if you ever want to confuse yourself for no reason... believe in the trinity.
So basically you're admitting that Jesus and God cannot be the same?
“One distinct person praying to another distinct person,” while both being God, doesn’t make any sense. It’s basically polytheism. If Jesus is God, why is he not all powerful like God “the father?” Your belief doesn’t make sense, no matter how many word games you play to justify your cognitive dissonance. I applaud you for further strengthening my belief in Islam, and exposing just how illogical your belief is. Subhanallah
One religion being false doesn't equal another religion being true, if you wanna use logic properly
And they call what they say trinity logic there is no Islam logic or trinity logic there is only common sense
@@TheFDDP I never used it as evidence to support Islam, that comes from reading the Quran. But it stands that the explanations for these things make way more sense in the Quran, which I encourage you to read for yourself and think critically about which is more logical
@@WhatDoYouWant000 if you haven’t read the Quran, your opinion is not valid. There are no logical inconsistencies in the Quran my brother. I encourage you to read it for yourself
@@Mirza_Tanovic"The sun set in muddy water" is quranic level of logic.
So why does the father didn't prayed to son? If its not confusing you doesn't follow Jesus you follow Paul!
Corinthians 6:12 reads, “Everything is permissible for me-but not everything is beneficial. Everything is permissible for me-but I will not be mastered by anything.” This declaration that “I will not be mastered by anything” is cited as evidence that addictions such as smoking are sinful from a Christian perspective.
Huh? Wheres the logic dude
Even in Hebrews God the Father is LITERALLY praying to the Son 😂
So what my Christian brother did here was:
Someone: Questioning the whole concept of Trinity Through the Text (of Bible) that is arguably the source of Trinity.
He: To understand whether Trinity is rational and believable, you just need to believe it first and then look at it. Everything will make sense.😅
No wonder mate 😊
Jesus Christ is the way the truth and life 🙏
Yeah right,the way to the father(G-D)
Yes sir revelation 22:13
Yes jesus also didnt eat pork and drink wine. Please follow jesus way of life
he drank wine , his first miracle was turning water into wine , you should read the bible and come back before making an ignorant comment@@sioso576
@@sioso576, jesus said in the bible, anything you eat does not make you unclean.butbwhat comes from your mouth makes you unclean, for it comes from the heart.
Jesus also said , those who just make a show of following him without following his rules he will not recognise.
Further jesus said, God is love,big you can't live the person you can see how can you love God you can't see?
Your heart must be right and not the show!
Bro finna be looking like an gang member from Ecuador out of a coma
Jesus is a messenger of Allah ☝🏻
Another thing that doesn’t make sense is why do u have an unlit cigar on ur hand as though u been smoking it…
I became a follower of Jesus when I left Paulianity and embraced Islam
What is paulianity?
And are you talking about the fake Jesus in your Quran?
@@niobserver1073 no I'm talking about the fake Jesus in the Bible the one that gives you the permission to eat pork the one that changed dad's Sabbath to Sunday the one that has you thinking that he's a white man with blue eyes the one that teaches you to celebrate his birthday on the 25th of the one that teaches you to hunt for Easter eggs the one that completely contradicts what God has taught in the Old testament the one that teaches you that there's a sun god that's somehow a part of this triune God the one that teaches you practices that completely aligned with Roman paganism which has the Jesus that they teach you in your new testament
Which I kind of find it kind of many things I do Christians believe such as death is promised because the sin of Adam so people technically died because they are sinful yet Jesus peace be upon him who was sinless which we also believe but you believe he died on the cross which completely contradicts who the Messiah was going to be to the Jewish people it was a part of their plan so you keep convincing them that you killed the man and they're going to keep assuming that Jesus is not their Jewish Messiah
You dont follow the Jesus of the Bible, you follow a false jesus of the quran. Islam is made by satan to lead you to hell
MashaAllah
You embrace Islam meaning you left whaf Christ gave in you, you left the Holy Spirit, you left the Eucharist, you left the Jewish traits in Christianity.
And bitch please, Paul wrote the EPISTLES, Not the GOSPELS.
It's John, Matthew, Luke, and Mark. Perhaps you will said, it's Johnity, it's Matthewity, it's Markity, and it's Lukity instead of Christianity.
“They are distinct but not separate is self-contradictory”.
Being distinct means they are separate beings/ entities.
If God is one then he’s ultimately praying to himself. If he’s 3 distinct entities then God is a plural (which is polytheism).
Hence the problem with the trinity.
@UCJl1WYiN2svTkUsuZzGQK4g
Polytheism is the belief in:
• A False deity or more than one god
They include, the belief that:
• God has literal relatives
• a separate being is literally a part of God’s essence.
• that something can challenge God even slightly or is not fully bound by God.
That’s polytheism^
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What you’re describing sounds like a car with 3 main parts. Yea, it’s one car, but the car has distinct parts.
claiming something ‘created’ is a part of the God is where the problem lies. It’s mixing the essence of God with something created - hence it’s polytheistic.
Here’s a question for you my friend,
How do you differentiate the True God from a false deity ?
Okay than answer me this: Is the word of Allah… Allah? If the word of Allah is not Allah and the attributes of Allah are not Allah and are distinct but also they are eternal, how does that not mean the same (since you said distinct means separate)?
@@milkyway4623
The word came *from* Him.
The word is not *a part* of Him.
& God’s characteristics are qualities that describe Him, not distinct living beings/ entities.
There’s a clear difference between a quality that describes God & what God owns (like property).
@@randomjoy8411 you didn’t answer the question; Is the Word of Allah…Allah or not?
@@milkyway4623
I did. The word comes *from* God but is not a literal part of God..
So the word is separate from His essence.
When you have to cut and edit a short video answering a simple question we know that you are confused or incompetent
Said a whole lot of nothing
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
Get politics out of here.
where is palestina mentioned in the video?
Amen
Nah
@@TradRomanCathchildren being slaughtered is “politics”?
idk why ppl r saying he made it more confusing, every christian should be able to understand this
The Non Believers brother, they will hardly comprehend this. For at the first place they deny Jesus the Lord as God.
@@roynobleza4no 💀 even the Christian’s are confused lmao
@@Ami-rb2hu dont speak like it not happening in islam dear Ami. some muslim converted to other religion. It comes both ways. Maybe theyre confused too.👁️
@@Ami-rb2hunot me😂
If jesus is god and father is god then why did jesus prayed to father to solve his problem doesn't make sense at alll
while bible said that why you are denying it
Without Paul, Christianity falls.
Follow Jesus pray to father like Jesus did
Okay but then arnt you neglecting god as a whole?
This also doesn't answer the point if god worshiping god
as a Muslim I'm going to say this ok I am a CEO my friend is also the CEO of the same store but at a different location I listen to this friend abought avry thang I take orders from him but where on the same level right so why am I'm taking order from a guy that I same level as me where both CEOs this dose not make sense its like god praying to ANOTHER GOD btw no hate love you dude just needed to say that so you can understand where I'm coming from and as Muslim how a thank.
@@hhermon6415Wouldn't you be rejecting God if you can't believe that God who is all powerful can come in some form?
@@timinator900 Well no, if an all powerful being becomes limited then it ceases ti be all powerful.
If we take the logic that God can do literally anything even things that contradict his nature than God doing all sorts of ungodly things becomes possible.
@@timinator900not really,god clearly says there's nothing like him,even in bible it says God is not a man
But even if you ignore that where it stop
How about Hindus they have millions of God's is that plausible for you??ancient Egyptians worshipped cats,according to your method,couldn't God b in that form??for me there's no need for God to come in any form,this does not befit his majesty
John 10 verse 30
*I and my father are one*
Hebrews 1:6 (Angels *Worshiped* Jesus)
*And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.*
Hebrews 1:2 (Jesus Created The Entire World)
*hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds*
John chapter 8:58 (Jesus was before Abraham)
*“Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am the one.” I am the one.”*
John 14:9 (Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father)
*Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?*
John 3:16 (No one comes the father except through me)
*Behold the lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. The only path to salvation is by Jesus. Jesus said, I am the way, the truth, and the Life, no one comes to the Father except through me.*
There is no reason to take this verse to mean that Christ [Maseeh Alayhissalaam] was saying that he and the Father make up “one God.” The phrase was a common one, and even today if someone used it, people would know exactly what he meant-he and his father are very much alike. When Paul wrote to the Corinthians about his ministry there, he said that he had planted the seed and Apollos had watered it. Then he said, “he who plants and he who waters are one” (1 Cor. 3:8 - KJV). In the Greek texts, the wording of Paul is the same as that in John 10:30, yet no one claims that Paul and Apollos make up “one being.” Furthermore, the NIV translates 1 Corinthians 3:8 as “he who plants and he who waters have one purpose.” Why translate the phrase as “are one” in one place, but as “have one purpose” in another place? In this case, translating the same phrase in two different ways obscures the clear meaning of Christ’s statement in John 10:30: Christ always did God’s will; he and God have “one purpose.”
@@MSNEDITZ Revelation 22:13 - I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. you can mald all you want but no manipulation and twisting of words you are capable of can change the meaning of this
An ambiguous statement
@@user-un2rn4ck5j fine then here…
John 10 verse 30
*I and my father are one*
Hebrews 1:6 (Angels *Worshiped* Jesus)
*And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.*
Hebrews 1:2
*hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds*
John chapter 8:58
*“Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am the one.” I am the one.”*
John 14:9
*Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?*
John 3:16
*Behold the lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. The only path to salvation is by Jesus. Jesus said, I am the way, the truth, and the Life, no one comes to the Father except through me.*
Jesus also said " I and the disciples are one" does that mean they are one being
I worship only one God, I bear witness that there is none worthy of worship except Allah, so you don't need to tire your smokey voice my ears are tired from listening to it
It's means Christianity is not monotheism but prophet Abraham is father of monotheism and it means he follow 1 god .
It's not confusing my Christian buddy...
If you follow Jesus PBUH, you should pray to god too. He put his forehed on the ground and pray. Just like us Muslims
they say also oh why God wants us to worship him this way, there are many reasons and one of them is actually that position is very healthy for the lower back.
Orthodox Christians pray like this. Get your facts straight
Jesus prayed that way, he also prayed, kneeling, sitting, standing. There’s no wrong way to pray, if your heart is truly reverent.
But your Allah pray for Mohammed in your Qur'an
@@60thirty22wow.nice to know this
For people that are confuesed. Allow me to explain
"The Father is the one who thinks, designs, and plans.
Yeshua is the one who gives the command, the voice, the action, the Verb.
The Holy Spirit is the one who executes, the one who creates. The three work in synchrony because they are One."
can't a one devine make all that
Trinity is not mentioned in the bible
@@danielpearce205 Gospel of Jhon 1:1 ans Genesis 1:26
Jesus also makes clear distintions between the 3
So god needs all three of these to exist? So god depends on these?
@@GeoNoob God is simply the "I Am" so His existance is as He pleases.
Many people are comfused within this world may jesus christ give them the guidance they need ☦️