How "Geek Culture" Rose To Dominate Media
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 มิ.ย. 2019
- Its time to talk about how culture once seen as "dorky" became the cash-cow for the world's largest media conglomerates.
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consume product
Is gayreek cry
RLM is my favorite bunch of geeks talking about trash.
yes product
@@mypenisisunbelievablysmall5258 it already is homie
You guys really like RedLetterMedia
I thought it said Greek Culture. To say the least I was a bit confused
So did I
Same
I mean you do always see fraternities on TV
Glad I wasn’t the only one
What are the top waifus in Greece?
Agriculture is pretty cool, I guess
You grain eating fuck.
give me some of that 10 10 20 yeah
Pff, it'll never catch on.
@Merritt Animation That's what they said about fire and look where that's gone.
Fuckin' plant weebs and plantkins and plant furries
that mii was I want die from RT, I see you are a man of culture
timestamp?
@@wellwell5483 5:03
Yeah, I noticed it too
This
I want die now
"Star Lord of the Rings: Age of Oogway" Killed me.
He should get the rights for that before Sony pulls a trilogy of it.
I would 100% pay to see that movie
@@f2t948 ITS WORKING
Yeah, that was pretty good.
Use the Force, Frodo.
Saying 'realistic way' while showing Jar Jar Binks is a ballsy move. I respect that.
At the time, it was pretty good
Now Jar Jar and his voice and as a character was terrible but in terms of CGI, it was actually good
Watch Jar Jar as if he weren't a comedic relief but actually "Darth Meesa" covertly instigating a war. All of a sudden everything falls in place.
His overacted facial play, poor grasp of language and his trademark clumsiness suddenly are appearing as deliberate "drunken mastery". Also, his eyes, they're yellow like the Siths'.
I think he just showed that clip to make Gollum look even more good
Ave, true to Caesar!
I thought this said “Greek culture” and I was really confused for a minute.
TBH I thought I was gonna get a history lesson on why Greek culture was adopted by so many people then spread as such but I got this instead. Meh.
I was pretty excited when I thought it was Greek too
Yea, and considering Thanos is on the thumbnail I assumed he’d mention how the Greek word “Θάνατος” (Thánatos), which means death, is where the name Thanos probably came from.
Me 2 lol
That Alexander of Macedonia starting that Hellene fandom.
To be fair, there’s sports fans out there who mull over every statistic years back and memorize names of players just as “nerds” memorize names of characters
In any hobby there’s people who let their passions consume them. But who cares? It’s their free time anyway
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. And most sports have a built-in audience, nowadays, usually geography-based. The only thing is that there are fewer toys/action figures. Plenty of clothing merchandise, though.
Daniel Jones agreed
Sports fans are fricken nerds
You aren't a nerd anymore tho. You are mainstream.
Fantasy sports: DnD for guys who used to beat up kids who played DnD.
I have to admit, using the clip of "I Want Die" from RT made me giggle.
He Protecc
He Attacc
But Most importantly
He makes an I want die sized snacc
I literally paused it right away to look down to the comments looking for this. SOMEONE CALL RT!!!
@@DylLit th-cam.com/video/8sqDW1U8i4s/w-d-xo.html
I like how "just consume product" has started becoming a meme in certain circles.
Jay Baumans finest moment
I hate the commercialized "geek" stuff and the trend hoppers that come with that.
I deal with my fair share of being made fun of for the stuff I like, it's nice going to a small con and seeing other people with the same struggle.
Great video.
Everyone loves Wendy’s, like “The Memer”
Watch the video RLM did with "Geek Newz" or something and Rich Evans starring as the stereotypical geek. It's really funny and poignant.
i mean there are still people made fun of for their interests mostly bronies and furries.
I've been told I don't have a life because I like Star Wars and Batman
@@LetsGoGetThem very cool
As one Legend said,
*"It's geeks who really make or break a TV show or movie or videogame"*
~Stan Lee
Rip Stan Lee
Rip
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7:17 is that Internet Historian’s quality film
watched "My Immortal" like 3 times
yes it is
I was pretty surprised to see it.
@Iz Makk I have seen him comment on some of Internet Historian’s videos along with his brother, Cody of AlternateHistoryHub
Only the greatest piece of fanfiction ever written
"Fun is not what one would consider when living on your couch, but this does put a smile on my face" -Tyler from @KnowledgeHub probably
Consider: Furries
Their community, unlike the majority of Geek Culture, isn't rooted in any specific piece of media. Sure there ARE influential pieces of media that appeals to them, but nothing that is so dominant that it becomes "official furry content" or comes close to eclipsing the influence that content created by the community for itself has. There is no "furry intellectual property." All the "intellectual Content" from that community is very DIY and personal to the members of that community.
The vast majority of money spent "in" the furry fandom will stay within that community. Art is either self-created or commissioned work of freelance artists. Fursuits are much the same, with no real "designer labels" so much as individual suit makers who are themselves furries mostly doing entirely custom work for clients. The characters are almost entirely Original Concepts of individual fans rather than derived from a property, and may have their own setting that they exist in that's similarly bespoke. There are exceedingly few "collectible furry memorabilia" items because it's all very personalized.
There's a whole "DIY ethic" among furries for this reason, and even more to the point there's always massive backlash whenever a company directly tries to make their community marketable. Just a couple months ago someone tried to launch a line of "off-the-rack designer fursuits" and they got soundly rejected on principle. I mean, if everyone's "fursona" is a sincere bespoke reflection of the fan's tastes and feelings, how could you ever mass-market that? It's concept resists mass-production. About the closest there is to a company that's successfully commercialized as a brand among furries is that dragon dildo company and even that's mostly a joke rather than an actual brand that will get you "cred."
What I'm trying to say is Furries are a form of Punk.
Furry culture, as you describe it, does seem a lot like Punk. Which makes me sad to know that it will eventually become overwhelmed by its own version of Hot Topic: that which was "soundly rejected on principle" a couple months ago by the community will eventually catch on with enough people outside the community, who are curious about the aesthetic and/or looking for "counterculture" cachet (not among members of the counterculture of course, but among their "normie" friends), and more willing to spend money on it than their own time and effort, that a mass market will develop with all that entails.
Capitalist recuperation is a juggernaut.
So ... we finna start seeing the anarchy symbol on furry suits?
The last sentence of that paragraph hit me like A fucking semi truck
@@dwc1964 Its allready being infected by far left ideology and political wars...sooo.
@@callofkarrenboomerops3262 "far left ideology" ???
Oh, I see your username, never mind.
Soon gamers will rise up against the false prophets of EA and MRG!
yes
Chad Gamers vs Game Development virgins
That's what I was thinking the nerds and geeks got their rise up now it's time for the gamers
Holy shit this makes me cringe
@@kekerosberg1654 Hahaha you nerd
Being a geek means being dorky/interested into something unusual. So whenever something dorky becomes "normal" it is not geeky anymore.
80's PC users were geeks, but in 2000's, everyone owning a computer would be called a geek, but they weren't.
Superhero comics were once considered geeky too, now it is probably the most mainstream thing there is.
Geek is a definition of behaviour, not definition of liking something in particular.
"If people don't make fun of you for your interests, you're probably not one"
Guess weebs are safe given no one hates weebs more then weebs.
I can confirm this
Zontar No, people with Anime pictures don’t have a right to an opinion. Therefore, your opinion doesn’t matter
True true
Actually, you’d be quite surprised how much normal people hate weebs
By i've moved on to Chinese animation now
You know who truly are the geeks
People who like edgy music (aka me)
It’s so sad, new franchises have a hard time taking off because of this :’(
Which is also partly because of Disney’s utter need for infinite copyright and partly because of Mexico’s copyright term being the world’s longest, at life + a century after the creator’s death.
“Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.”
― C.S. Lewis
Not sure if sci-fi stuff like Dr Who and Star Wars was ever despised. When I was growing up in the 1970s and early 1980s loads of kids were into it.
I've wondered about this myself; when I was in school people got made fun of for being a nerd/geek/whatever. Nobody was proud of being into Sci-Fi, comic books, video games, and so on... and yet everyone seemed to be into at least one of those things, to at least some degree. Maybe the internet has made our private lives more public and so it's easier to learn that, say, the captain of the high school football team plays Call of Duty and watches Star Wars on a weekly basis, thus removing the stigma?
Another thing might be that Gen Xers, who grew up on Star Wars movies and Atari games, are now getting to that age where it just takes too much energy to try and be "cool" to everyone around (and really, now that the captain of the football team is going bald, getting fat, driving a minivan, and making less money than you, do you really care how "cool" he thinks you are)?
But yeah, remakes, death-by-sequels, and normie consumer goods with "geek" branding are all rather lame.
At least most of the normals stay at the top levels of our stuff. And if they do dive deeper down, they usually just turn into one of us.
Geek culture is only popular because people are finding ways to make money from it. I'm a geek myself but the cash flow is priority for some.
Now that Geek culture is mainstream I now know why it was ostracized in the first place
Oh how far we have fallen
Rian Johnson is a hero....He is single-handedly driving geek culture back into the closet!
@@BryceByerley I suppose making bad films would do that.
Right? I am so sick of super hero movies. How the hell am I supposed to take some twat running around in a spandex gimp suit for 2 hours seriously? I didn't think it aas cool when I was 10. I think it's even stupider now that I'm 27.
@@geoffrogers7590 To be fair, it's mostly the DC Superheroes who dress like that, the design of Marvel characters can be taken _more_ seriously.
@@neo-didact9285
Spider man
Diehard pro wrestling fans are the nerds of today.
Not casual fans, smarks.
Yes! I thought it the whole vid! Then scrolled the comments to see if I was alone. Too Sweet me bro 🤘🏿👌🏿
@@steediy3567 🤘
Thanos pp memes.
BUT THATS JUST A THEORY, A GEEK THEORY! THANKS FOR WATCHING
*GREEK THEORY
Ah, I see that you too are a fan of Star Lord of the Rings: Age of Oogway
I thought it said "Greek Culture" for like 2 minutes into the video
Fot67 same
It was 5 for me
Dude that is so true
noob! I noticed after 1 minute...
same here...bit disappointing
Now geek culture by definition is things like 4chan, the furry community, anything involving hentai, etc.
Truly, the dark age for TRUE geek culture.
Basically, the same thing happened to geek culture as to every other counterculture: mainstream media appropriated and diluted it to reinvigorate itself. Also, in every subculture there is a rift happening sooner or later, where some people try to bring said subculture to mainstream while others tend to prefer it being obscure and pure.
7:15 Is that a clip from Internet Historian I see?
I knew I watched it somewhere
_Avengers Infinity War is the most ambitious crossover events in cinematic history..._
*Geeks at Comic Con:* Hold our action figures
But wash your hands first...
Inb4 peeps calling themselves "geeks before it was cool"
Geek before it was cool
“Much like rudolf the reindeer they found acceptance after getting a valuable skill that could be exploited by others” God I love this channel.
"if people don't make fun of your interests, you're not probably one"
c'mon now you're just gategeeking us
Geek is not a compliment bro. I'm a geek myself.
geekgate
Set your geekgate^tm blasters to stun
People make fun of everything. People are horrible. Don't worry, someone will always make fun of what you like.
I have been asking for this video for years! Thank you!
Yep, I was a geek/nerd when being a geek/nerd was bad. Ahhh, the good ol days. 😉😉😉
The outcast has become the norm and thus the true outcasts are even more outcast.
“...given that somebody doesn’t mess it up too badly.”
*plays Last Jedi clip*
6:52
It's actually the Last Jedi
thanks for the fix lol
Thank you so much that you used, I want die vs Matt, as the wii boxing footage
"AAA Game" *shows Bubsy 3D*
Please make what if the boers won the 2nd boer war
Yay Hay this aint alternate history hub. It’s knowledge hub
Gavin Leonard I know I’m just trying to get my ideas out anywhere
They would lose the 3rd Boer war.
Well, they did sorta win in the end, especially when the National Party came into power.
Jerry Rupprecht true
Super interesting video! Love how you analyze cultural shifts in such a refined way
Damn i read it as "Greek Culture" and i was so confused when i saw a clip of star wars posters
I've needed this video for so long, I've felt like the only person in the world who's cynical about "geek" culture as it exists today.
All my friends think they're niche and geeky for watching some of the highest grossing films of all time, and for buying thousands of dollars in merchandising, when in reality they're just feeding a corporate machine.
Its been happening throughout history...what was unpopular but heavily followed by the outcasts of one era then becomes profitable and finally popular once the outcasts grow more comfortable with themselves.
Or more accurately, once the people who bullied the outcasts join the community and ruin it for said outcasts, while the product gets driven into the ground by a money hungry corporation.
This has one 10th the views but is the embodiment of TH-cam. Thanks Tyler!
5:05
Thanks for using RT for multiplayer fun!
7:16 Internet Historian's "My immortal", a piece of art
Nobody:
KnowledgeHub: Why are these NERDS so popular
Anyone: "nobody:"
How, you ask? It's simple
The gamers rose up
This is a copypasta at this point.
I love the closing words! :)
I’ve been watching a lot of ancient history videos on TH-cam lately and taught it said how Ancient Greek rose to prominence
Same
It should be noted though that goal of geeks isn't to be geeks, but to be acknowledged by main culture. In that way geeks in facts did succeed proving that they passions were undervalued. If someone claim that being a geek is a good thing, then he simply is a hipster as true geeks always wanted to be acknowledged.
This video had me cracking up. Editing was 10/10.
I remember when the word "Geek" used to mean someone who acted like a nerd but wasn't smart enough to be one. Now a Geek is basically a hipster nerd.
Now i just wanna see "Star Lord; of the Rings - Age of Oogway" cinematic universe :P
At first, I read it: How "Greek culture" rose to dominate Medes, and I thought we were gonna talk about the Hellenization of Persia but apparently not
Someday... *sniffle* ... someday my friend😢
They should make a movie about that
I read the same thing and got confused when watching 😂
Back in my day, watching Anime and MST3k in High School meant sitting at the no-date nerds table
Collider getting some love at the beginning of the video. Nice.
So by your definition of having people making fun of your interest, fortnite players and furries are geeks?
Who doesn't think furries are geeks? They always were.
They're not?
Like the hell were you thinking
Furries yes, Fortnite players no
No
Yeah I guess they're the outcasts of today. Or at least the ones that get bullied. Fortnite is popular but many hate it.
I read the title as Greek culture...opa
Hi avery
Gangnam style
Always a great watch
Very well done vid. Subscribed.
5:02 RTGame!
Is it just me or am I starting to get 2 ads, one right after another, instead of just one?
No, it's not just you. It's TH-cam's latest attempt to drive us all bat-crap crazy.
THANK YOU FOR THE INFO ALF!
I don't know what changed but I really like his videos from about this point foward
OMFG. Are the furries the only true geeks nowadays?
What have we done? We have to go back Kate, *WE HAVE TO GO BACK !*
I'd argue furries are the true fusion of punk and geek when you REALLY think about the tenants of punk.
5:03 Don't think I didn't catch you using footage from RT!
Holy shit the editing is amazing!
I can't wait for alternatehistoryhub and knowledgehub to do a collab
Same
Can we talk how Tyler's voice got deeper like he just hit another puberty?
Didn’t see a single Jojo reference
7:17 “Man Boy” I guess that will do, carry on
Incorrect, 6:35 is a reference to King Crimson
@@jadenwalter7400 King Crimson is a reference to King Crimson
Both informative and hilarious i had to pause multiple times cus i was laughing to much!
10:39 This is my favourite bit for sure. Quality content
When you realize MMA culture is the new geek.
Lol the only geeks that can beat the crap out of the average person
Geek culture has become so mainstream I wish we had more jocks to push us around.
NCR here to tell you to eat shit
Ave, true to Caesar.
AVE
@@darknessml6145 hold your tongue, profligate
No! Mr. House needs geek culture to sell his vault tec merchandise and pip boy lootboxes!
Did not expect this video being this good
Good analysis 'KnowledgeHub', as always, coming from a good 'Nerd' - appreciated by this good 'Geek' :)
The reference to 21st century schizoid man really cool
Vladimir Lenin is my favourite youtuber
You used a clip of the skids, and that's what I appreciates about you.
Seeing RT’s video in this was really cool
these culture/ entertainment are outlet to express human's lack of fulfillment/ escape from the reality. Geek Culture has mediums to experience "what if". And those "what if" may reflect what our inner needs. Politics, human nature, resource gathering, resemblance of control, and dreams.
These needs are long lasting, and these medium has long ass time to cultivate, richer context and broader community.
5:03 anyone else recognise that God forsaken character on the left?
Red Chicken it's rt game's "i want die" character, he a gaming/comedy youtuber.
@@Mathias-bz2kr r/wooosh
Good video! Good thesis!
good content deez days
also nice that you guys also love rlm
"A Jaded Cynic Explains How 'Geek Culture' Rose To Dominate Media" - a fitting title Tyler
"Star Lord of the Rings: Age of Oogway" Brilliant, absolutely brilliant!
Glad to see my friend I Want Die made it into the video.
Nice Virtua Racing clip. 🏁🏎💨
I’m torn up about this because I grew up in a time when RPG games were for fat & weird losers.
So while I love that I can finally get all my nerdy wants thanks to the mainstream accessibility factor, I hate that now everyone’s a “nerd”.
I worry now that in the future, this will fall by the wayside as the bandwagoners jump on the next thing and abandon “Geek Culture.”
What do you mean, that's the best possible solution
I never knew Greek culture was so different now
I love your take on fanboys taking away creator incentive to make high quality media. I think this has happened to my favorite show Ghost in the Shell with their new Netflix series. I'm guilty of forgiving that show's shortcomings because of my devotion to it.
Whow I for days thought it said "Greek culture" and when video started I only realised everything at the end of the video.
Star Lord of The Rings: Age of Ooguay absolutely made me lose my shit in the bus. also great King Crimson Reference!
Star lord of the Ring: age of oogway
Hah, Avatar and endgame combined wouldn't stand a chance
I see you with that redlettermedia reference
This is what I've been waiting for.