What's impressive is that the damage from the competitors tower didnt affect the performance of the cuda...this is why I bought one. It's a legit company, an old school company. Any problems with an order, an actual person calls you! Not a computer, or an email!! Great people, great intentions, and a great product, at an affordable price
We are very happy with our MTK tower. We smoked (I mean SMOKED) a bridge with it, the wake pushed us under the bridge where we were now stuck. In the end, it just dented the tubes along the top. Still functional but we couldn't stand looking at the damage so we purchased a new cross bar and hopefully we pay attention to bridges on new lakes a little better. Ha.
We aren't saying the competitions tower isn't a good tower overall, we actually love the look of it as well. We are discussing the narrow stance and it's effects on the hull.
Cool I guess to have a strong tower, but last I checked a person pulling as hard as they can with their hand grip pulls about 100lbs, before the handle pulls out of their grip.
Both of these towers are considered reverse mount towers. This means they mount to the stern of the boat and sweep forward to the bow. We are pulling these from the rear, just as any rider would be using it.
How much max load does a large hard turning boarder exert when getting up or hard cuts? Im looking for a tower for my old ski centurion bowrider and like foreward face design
mnminnmn There is not a standard number that we could provide. Rider weight, strength, and other factors would need to be considered. For your boat model, the top selling tower models are the H2O, Fusion, Ice, and Cuda towers.
Figure between body weight, power of the boat plus the resistance of being in the water, or the drag of the water, its safe to say that if you double your body weight, that could be the surge load on the tower...maybe...I just installed the cuda tower on my boat, and I weigh 225, i hung from it and did the 3 pull ups I could do, and it was SOLID
It is not nearly as much as you are thinking it is. Because physics. There are so many things wrong with how these tests were performed. But the tower’s are good.
Why pull the rig forward ? I'd rather see it pulled where the actual pull will come from. I've been reading a forward sweep is double strong as swept back. Have or can you install your rig facing forward ? That sick bend for your wider stance to me looks 10 times sexier than the legs a foot apart.
This is a reverse mount tower, thus the pull is correct. This tower mounts at the stern of the boat, sweeping to the bow. If you notice, the tow knob where you attach your rope is to the back where we are pulling from.
Based on how the hull cracked you clearly didn't reinforced the the inside of the hull with your competitor's tower. I find that funny considering the fact that you guys sell reinforcement kits on your website.
Thank you for your comment. We installed both towers with their supplied mounting hardware, no additional reinforcement kits were used on either assembly. Our Big Air towers come stock with both backing plates, circular and rectangle, as part of the mounting hardware. A reinforcement kit is only needed if your fiberglass is less than 3/8" thick, which this boat was just at that requirement. Thus, proving our point of narrow stances even more. Thank you for your interaction. We hope that helps you understand a little better and have a great day.
We appreciate your comment, but that is an incorrect statement. Per the installation manual of the competitors tower; "The Mounting Bases have multiple pivots that allow mounting your tower most anywhere on your boat, the top, sides and most any angle."
My question is, who the hell would ever put that much weight on their wake tower? The stance of this tower is naturally better than the other do to the wider stance, however most everyone knows a boat hull isn't designed for being pulled on. So a couple kids or adults on skis or tubes wouldn't be anywhere near that type of pressure,possibly for the few seconds of taking off. If I was going to tow a boat in that was down I would never hook to my tower. I'd hook to the ski hooks in the back of the boat that go through an inch thick piece of plywood plus the thicker glass which is where the boat is designed to pull from anyway. If someone hooks to the tower to pull that kind of weight, they are just asking for hull damage regardless of who makes the tower. Common sense.
I'm a fabricator welder, I know all about wider stance. That still doesn't answer the question. You pulling g a tuber or a skier or maybe a couple of each. No where near 1600 pounds of weight. Of course you would rip right through the fiberglass.
I had a Torrent Big Air tower on my 2009 Stingray 195 mounted to the sides. Huge disappointment. Way to many joints and it racked side to side so bad, it started cracking my gel coat. I put heavier backing plates, and no help. Sold it and went to Monsters MTX tower mounted to the beams. No wobble, no side to side racking. Hands down, Monster is a far better product in my opinion. Heavier tubing and better mounting hardware.
I'd like to see the backside to see how it was done for both as well
About to pull the trigger on this in Black, w Bimini and added speaker Bar. this video is helping with that decision!
What's impressive is that the damage from the competitors tower didnt affect the performance of the cuda...this is why I bought one. It's a legit company, an old school company. Any problems with an order, an actual person calls you! Not a computer, or an email!! Great people, great intentions, and a great product, at an affordable price
That's a good looking Dillon Dynamometer.
We are very happy with our MTK tower. We smoked (I mean SMOKED) a bridge with it, the wake pushed us under the bridge where we were now stuck. In the end, it just dented the tubes along the top. Still functional but we couldn't stand looking at the damage so we purchased a new cross bar and hopefully we pay attention to bridges on new lakes a little better. Ha.
lol wtf
We aren't saying the competitions tower isn't a good tower overall, we actually love the look of it as well. We are discussing the narrow stance and it's effects on the hull.
Truly impressive comparison. Well done.
And…. Now after binge watching all of your videos, I purchased the Big Air Cuda Tower. :-) Can’t wait to install it.
Cool I guess to have a strong tower, but last I checked a person pulling as hard as they can with their hand grip pulls about 100lbs, before the handle pulls out of their grip.
I'll bet i could get to 300 if I was being dumb and not letting go.
@@elmeradams8781 youre not that guy bro
I'll bet with both hands I could do 300.
Don't tell us you're gonna take it to destruction and puss out before you wreck it.
Does it come in black?
Yes, the Cuda tower is available in a polished finish or gloss black powder coat.
Why did you pull from the front and not the back (or Sides) ?
Both of these towers are considered reverse mount towers. This means they mount to the stern of the boat and sweep forward to the bow. We are pulling these from the rear, just as any rider would be using it.
How much max load does a large hard turning boarder exert when getting up or hard cuts? Im looking for a tower for my old ski centurion bowrider and like foreward face design
mnminnmn There is not a standard number that we could provide. Rider weight, strength, and other factors would need to be considered.
For your boat model, the top selling tower models are the H2O, Fusion, Ice, and Cuda towers.
Figure between body weight, power of the boat plus the resistance of being in the water, or the drag of the water, its safe to say that if you double your body weight, that could be the surge load on the tower...maybe...I just installed the cuda tower on my boat, and I weigh 225, i hung from it and did the 3 pull ups I could do, and it was SOLID
It is not nearly as much as you are thinking it is. Because physics.
There are so many things wrong with how these tests were performed. But the tower’s are good.
I have that monster tower and it never made that sound
Why pull the rig forward ? I'd rather see it pulled where the actual pull will come from. I've been reading a forward sweep is double strong as swept back. Have or can you install your rig facing forward ? That sick bend for your wider stance to me looks 10 times sexier than the legs a foot apart.
This is a reverse mount tower, thus the pull is correct. This tower mounts at the stern of the boat, sweeping to the bow. If you notice, the tow knob where you attach your rope is to the back where we are pulling from.
@Gmas Gspot and due to differences of opinions is why we offer so many tower models. This may not be your style, and that's okay.
Based on how the hull cracked you clearly didn't reinforced the the inside of the hull with your competitor's tower. I find that funny considering the fact that you guys sell reinforcement kits on your website.
Thank you for your comment. We installed both towers with their supplied mounting hardware, no additional reinforcement kits were used on either assembly. Our Big Air towers come stock with both backing plates, circular and rectangle, as part of the mounting hardware. A reinforcement kit is only needed if your fiberglass is less than 3/8" thick, which this boat was just at that requirement. Thus, proving our point of narrow stances even more. Thank you for your interaction. We hope that helps you understand a little better and have a great day.
Sorry to tell you but you installed the Competitor tower incorrectly. You should have installed on top of the boat rail not the side
We appreciate your comment, but that is an incorrect statement. Per the installation manual of the competitors tower; "The Mounting Bases have multiple pivots that
allow mounting your tower most anywhere on your boat, the top, sides and most any angle."
Anyone who's looking at this boat thinking.. shit.. mine ain't much better.. I get it..
My question is, who the hell would ever put that much weight on their wake tower? The stance of this tower is naturally better than the other do to the wider stance, however most everyone knows a boat hull isn't designed for being pulled on. So a couple kids or adults on skis or tubes wouldn't be anywhere near that type of pressure,possibly for the few seconds of taking off. If I was going to tow a boat in that was down I would never hook to my tower. I'd hook to the ski hooks in the back of the boat that go through an inch thick piece of plywood plus the thicker glass which is where the boat is designed to pull from anyway. If someone hooks to the tower to pull that kind of weight, they are just asking for hull damage regardless of who makes the tower. Common sense.
I'm a fabricator welder, I know all about wider stance. That still doesn't answer the question. You pulling g a tuber or a skier or maybe a couple of each. No where near 1600 pounds of weight. Of course you would rip right through the fiberglass.
I had a Torrent Big Air tower on my 2009 Stingray 195 mounted to the sides. Huge disappointment. Way to many joints and it racked side to side so bad, it started cracking my gel coat. I put heavier backing plates, and no help. Sold it and went to Monsters MTX tower mounted to the beams. No wobble, no side to side racking. Hands down, Monster is a far better product in my opinion. Heavier tubing and better mounting hardware.