The Mind Blowing History of Fire Emblem's Cut, Unused and Completely Lost Characters. FE1-FE3H.

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  • I'm going to go over every single cut and removed character spanning across the series' history. The definition of cut for the context of this video is as follows: characters that can ONLY be found internally or characters that are present in the final retail product of their game, have internal information that would suggest they were intended to be playable at some point, but are only used as NPCs or as enemies. I will drop some honourable mentions because if i don't, the comments will probably call me out anyway. Also don't be surprised if i forgot to mention some insanely obscure character entry. I may just have. This video contains character mentions for the NES Fire Emblem games, Mystery and New Mystery of the Emblem, Genealogy of the Holy War, Thracia 776, the GBA Fire Emblem games, Path of Radiance, Radiant Dawn, Awakening, Fates, Shadows of Valentia and Three Houses.
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    Three Houses Cutting Room Floor Video: • 15 REJECTED Fire Emble...
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  • @Faerghast
    @Faerghast  ปีที่แล้ว +102

    HELLO VIEWER😁. This video was a very exhausting (but very fun) video to write and edit and gather footage for. And I really hope you enjoyed had fun and learned something new! I sure did.
    Did you learn anything new, or find something super fascinating? Let me know down below. And if you haven't subscribed yet but you've seen my videos in your recommended tab, DO THE DEEEEEEEED. Enjoy the week! Deuces.

    • @Rabbitlord108
      @Rabbitlord108 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Certainly one of my favorite videos of yours. I knew some of the stuff about the Fates capturable bosses. But everything else was so eye opening it was amazing.

    • @GreekDudeYiannis
      @GreekDudeYiannis ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You asked in the discord, but it wasn't mentioned in the video:
      In Fates; the "Hooded Man" portrait is used as the default for when no other portrait is assigned to that unit's ID. It's not so much that it's Sumeragi's portrait, it's specifically that the ??? character who turns out to be Sumeragi deliberately has no portrait assigned so the default ends up being used on purpose. With regards to the Scrapped Playable Villager, they have the Hooded Man portrait because there is no other portrait assigned to that Player ID. It's not that the Scrapped Playable Villager uses Sumeragi's hooded portrait; it's that both use the default portrait which just so happens to be the "Hooded Man" portrait.

    • @nessdbest8708
      @nessdbest8708 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jagen isn't playable in fe12 either

  • @kcmisulis425
    @kcmisulis425 ปีที่แล้ว +246

    I love TH, but Rhea being cut from Silver Snow is a crime.

    • @Emperorwolf999
      @Emperorwolf999 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's very weird

    • @swirl6996
      @swirl6996 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      The amount of cut ideas is insane. VW/AM route splits, playable Rhea, Jeralt as a Jagen, White Clouds divergence, more CF content, Infernal, Formations, tons of TWSITD content, etc. I would legitimately pay the full $60 for a refined edition that contains all the time the developers lost.

    • @Briggetyt
      @Briggetyt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@swirl6996just fucking killing the jagen is the most based way to have one lmao

    • @UniGya
      @UniGya หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Briggetyt "Okay we thought about giving him bad growths like a traditional Jagen but we figured giving him great ones but killing him would be funnier"

  • @TheCrazyhusky
    @TheCrazyhusky ปีที่แล้ว +150

    Honestly I feel like Rhea should been playable, not only I would have made sense if they made a her the lord for Silver snow route.
    Personally I think that route would have been better if the Silver snow route was changed to be more about tackling the slivering in the dark people,
    then later having to fight the 10 elites in groups, finally having rematch with Nemesis. They could have made it like they captured Flayn instead.

    • @xdsmile5359
      @xdsmile5359 ปีที่แล้ว

      You spelled "slithering" wrong

  • @edelgardvonhresvelg3222
    @edelgardvonhresvelg3222 ปีที่แล้ว +305

    part of me wants to believe that the unused girl character in the ashen wolves DLC might have been either an early concept for Shez, or is most likely Monica but she was cut from the DLC as it would not match the story.

    • @rhettmitchell
      @rhettmitchell ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That or maybe Edelgard’s or Lysithea’s siblings

    • @edelgardvonhresvelg3222
      @edelgardvonhresvelg3222 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@rhettmitchell I don't think so, Edelgard's sibling would have had the crest of seiros not the crest of cichol. the same goes for Lysithea, the crest of flames makes me believe it might have been another experiment made by rhea, like sitri, especially if they are associated with the church of seiros.

    • @edelgardvonhresvelg3222
      @edelgardvonhresvelg3222 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Methodius yeah definitely, makes sense, though the age doesn't match, so I think it might have been another of rhea's experiments, idk tho.

    • @omarmansuri7099
      @omarmansuri7099 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@rhettmitchell Maybe at the earliest, it might've been Ferdinand's sibling, since they share his stats and even his crest of cichol.

    • @SylvainJoseGautier-
      @SylvainJoseGautier- 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Imagine if it was Shez!? Ngl that'd be such a missed opportunity

  • @Superluigi881
    @Superluigi881 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    The idea that they might have made a second Clive just to give him 1 point of res is hilarious.

    • @TressaAimuuru
      @TressaAimuuru ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Intelligent Systems: "okay maybe 0 res was a little too mean... Lets give him at least 1"

  • @filipe19991
    @filipe19991 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    My Headcanon of Nichol and Candance are that were supposed to be retrainers for Prince Leo and Princess Camilla instead Odin and Selena.

  • @Superluigi881
    @Superluigi881 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    The Fernand in the Echoes DLC has a completely different set of voice lines to the unused Fernand.

  • @catelyntully9494
    @catelyntully9494 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    WHY IS WHY DID YOU NOT ALLOWED US TO PLAY AS RHEA IN 3 HOUSES?! EVERYTHING is already there, her weapons, her spell list, her stats and growths her unique class, her combat arts, the models (with 2 actually unlike other church members) at least as a New Game+ only character :/

    • @catelyntully9494
      @catelyntully9494 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @Methodius Indeed 3 Houses was rushed, it is even more clear as you see the world expanded in 3 Hopes with things that were already there.
      Anyway is not like they had more than 3 years to just release a patch and allow us to play her in New Game+, overall they completly forgot about 3 Houses DLC after the Ashen Wolves.

  • @Rabbitlord108
    @Rabbitlord108 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I also find it interesting how in early versions of FE8 Amelia was gonna be Frelia's princess while Tana was gonna be a General (Explaining the pairing of the two in that FE Heroes Bound Hero Battle) Also wonder if Nichol & Candace were gonna be Garon's former retainers.

  • @ivanbluecool
    @ivanbluecool ปีที่แล้ว +177

    fe games: we had to remove them.
    Fe fates: don't care. capture them and force them to fight.

    • @AzureGreatheart
      @AzureGreatheart ปีที่แล้ว +15

      “What? It felt like a waste!”

    • @ivanbluecool
      @ivanbluecool ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@AzureGreatheart Fe fates amiboo:it's free real estate
      Fe echoes amiboo:what a waste of time.

    • @ShadowWolfRising
      @ShadowWolfRising ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lord I wish we got to keep the Capture mechanic.

    • @ivanbluecool
      @ivanbluecool ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ShadowWolfRising yeah it may have broken up units but it's unique to get npc units for the party. Basically like secret units.
      I was super happy to capture a lancer unit and make them a beast

    • @guthetanuki256
      @guthetanuki256 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​​@@ivanbluecool it also is a clever way to skirt around the permadeath mechanic without something as controversial as the turn wheel essentially killing that aspect. This is since they can serve as replacement units as well which is cool

  • @xenofes2
    @xenofes2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    In FE6 Gale's placement in the code indicates that he was originally intended to be playable. Beyond that I've always speculated that the knight's triangle attack in FE6 was a retooling of a wyvern rider triangle attack between Melady, Zeiss, and Gale; but there's no solid evidence for that.

    • @lazykatie42069
      @lazykatie42069 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      another thing to note is that of the trial map characters, he's the only one with a unique set of growths

    • @theghostcreator776
      @theghostcreator776 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He is also the only enemy only unit in the game to have an affinity and was originally going to have a prf weapon.

  • @tbahr123
    @tbahr123 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    Ghast: consistently making the most interesting Fire Emblem content. Keep grinding man! We appreciate you!

  • @Superluigi881
    @Superluigi881 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Sothis isn't completely unused in three houses. If you scan an amiibo Byleth will gain the ability to use Sothis's shield. When used it plays out like a healing animation with Sothis appearing to grant Byleth the shield then disappearing again. (Even post time skip.) Her voice lines outside of her grunts still go unused though.

    • @franck4727
      @franck4727 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I didn't know you use the smash bros amiibo of Byleth in 3H

    • @agirlinsearchof9057
      @agirlinsearchof9057 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actually, it’s a New Game+ ability. You do access it through a location accessed through the Amiibo Gazebo, though, so I understand the confusion.

  • @wedorepairs
    @wedorepairs ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Would not have guessed Count Galatea would have a character slot in three houses, learned a lot from this video

  • @Dakress23
    @Dakress23 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    F for Fates' Matheus. Dude is the literal definition of cut character as he was removed entirely from Fates' script when IS did their thing with it.
    Also Count Galatea's situation is so weird in Three Hopes. Even though the dude is still nowhere to be seen like in 3Hs, the game bothered to give the guy an actual name now: Gunnar.

    • @RadiancePath936
      @RadiancePath936 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Matthew Mathis And Machyua (Mattia) We could have have the Matt Crew. EDIT: FORGOT MATHILDA

    • @RadiancePath936
      @RadiancePath936 ปีที่แล้ว

      Matthis* also fun fact Gunnar is also the name of a vision quest character.

    • @LuckyTheReviewer
      @LuckyTheReviewer ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not to mention the whole support thread between Ingrid and Shez is about Ingrid's grandmother, someone who I think also got brought up in Three Houses with Ingrid and Sylvain's support.

  • @SweaterPuppys
    @SweaterPuppys ปีที่แล้ว +13

    In a way, all Fire Emblem characters before awakening are being cut from the franchise if you think about it

  • @LuckyTheReviewer
    @LuckyTheReviewer ปีที่แล้ว +12

    So, theory time:
    Given where the name is placed, it might be possible that Bella might have been the name they would have given Robin's mom. It's between Validar so you have that and given how Macedon would go on to be part of Plegia we can two possible options for why the Minerva is the other name the name Bella is in between. Option A is that she is from the area that used to be Macedon before the Schism which possibly leads to one of the characters mentioning the hero Minerva or Option B is that she might have possibly been a descendant of Minerva or was a Wyvern Rider described to have skilled matched by Minerva. This would also give credence as to why Future Past Female Morgan is a Wyvern Lord. You have Male Morgan as a Sorcerer but then you have Female Morgan as a Wyvern Lord using Hauteclere. At first glance this is really weird class for Female Morgan to be given Robin's whole thing with magic and tactics. Male Morgan is in an appropriate class but Female Morgan isn't unless the imagery is suppose to be Male Morgan being the class that his grandfather was while Female Morgan took the class that her grandmother had but also possible her ancestor had. On top of all this, Future Past is a world where the Future Children never went back in time because they managed to gather all the gemstones and the Fire Emblem in their world meaning this would be a world where Robin still had their memories (Unless I.S. wants to say the Robin of Lucina's Timeline/the Future Past Timeline also conveniently got amnesia and lost all their memories). This Robin would have memories of their mother and it's possible that it's because of this that caused the two Morgans to be given the class they get from Grima.
    Then again no idea how the coding for these games works and, unless they have a specific wording for Cherche's Wyvern, the naming of Minerva could just be a reference to the wyvern rather than the actual person.

  • @eaglelord145
    @eaglelord145 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Berkut is my favourite FE character, having him be playable would’ve been a literal dream, but his story in echoes is also wonderful and perfect, and it wouldn’t play out if he was recruited

  • @dainn4398
    @dainn4398 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    As the local Galle fan, Galle was definitely intended to be playable.
    He is the only main story character who is not recruitable that has an affinity. Guinevere, Hector, and Eliwood all have affinities as well, but they lack the next crucial thing Galle has--a unique growth set. The former three have generic enemy growths, whilst Galle doesn't.
    Galle also has unique AI. His AI can be summed up as.
    1. If Roy is rescued, attack/do whatever.
    2. If Roy is not rescued, attack/approach Roy.
    Finally, Galle's internal ID is placed smack dab in the midst of every other playable character.

  • @thepsyshyster8243
    @thepsyshyster8243 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    If William is to follow the assumed "FE6 bosses are named after pro-wrestlers" pattern, he's likely named after William Regal. Much like the other wrestlers referenced, he worked with New Japan Pro-Wrestling for a time.
    Also Nichol content. Very nice. And thank you for bringing attention to Fates Matheus. A shame that they cut half of the Cheve representation like that.

    • @oof5992
      @oof5992 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nichol gaming

    • @rueblie2627
      @rueblie2627 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wait FE6 bosses are named after pro wrestlers?

    • @thepsyshyster8243
      @thepsyshyster8243 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@rueblie2627 Time to shill, I guess. On my blog, Etymology of the Emblem, I have a post suggesting that nearly all minor bosses in FE6 are named after pro-wrestlers.

  • @matthis6188
    @matthis6188 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Nichol actually has quite a few voice lines, there's a video of them up.
    hes also got a line you can hear in game, if he's to fall in battle he'll say "it was inevitable"

  • @peachiiieevee
    @peachiiieevee ปีที่แล้ว +13

    genuinely crying that candace could've had a bigger role in fates, she's my favorite capturable unit. intsys should port fates to the switch and make her a full character

  • @Oersted_LAL
    @Oersted_LAL ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hey, I was the one who put the Shizas image on TCRF, too many sources said it was impossible to load him, but it's easily done. Also, there's a case for ALL enemies being "cut" playable units, as SoV has all enemies in the data in the same file as players. Weird stuff at play.

  • @legomaster2538
    @legomaster2538 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Glad they made Jeralt, Rhea, and Sothis playable in Three Hopes :)

    • @MinisterChicken
      @MinisterChicken ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Wish they made rhea and sophis less forced though, and gave rhea her own route

    • @douglaswatson4234
      @douglaswatson4234 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Methodius The source is that I made it the fuck up.
      Let's face it, IS and KT aren't interested enough in Rhea to make her actually relevant.

    • @pearsemolloy9656
      @pearsemolloy9656 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@douglaswatson4234 the art book that came with the limited edition is divided into 4 sections. Three of which are named after the 3 routes with the 4th section being called blackened embers and is represented by the crest of flames. This section contains a currently unused version of Byleth’s portraits so he isn’t just pulling that speculation out his ass. This doesn’t guarantee a 4th route but it does still give cause for speculation. It could be a 4th route or even an epilogue given the name. Embers is what comes after a fire has settled and two of the routes have fire related names. It could also just be a fancy name they gave to the miscellaneous section of the art book I’m not ruling out that mundane possibility either.

    • @ericx6969
      @ericx6969 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@pearsemolloy9656 dlc should be what if jeralt found shez as a baby lol and shez and byleth are homies

    • @MinisterChicken
      @MinisterChicken ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Methodius while the source is somewhat reliable, it sounds more like a byleth route then a church of serios one

  • @JoeEmb776
    @JoeEmb776 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It's also worth noting that fe64 actually used a bunch of names that were later used for fe6 & 9 but there were still a few unused names. or so I've heard, you can read about it on the wiki somewhere
    also with regards to spinoffs, barry maiko & tiki were intended to be playable in TMS, but were cut due to time, tiki & barry were relegated to encore attacks. (all three also got extra session attacks in the switch version which remedies this, maiko even uses her dancer outfit that she was intended to wear as her first game carnage form.) Then Roy & Ike were thought to be put into warriors 1 at some point but they decided to save them for the sequel. not sure if there were any other unused characters there, but I'm sure darios was intended at some point

    • @atanvardecunambiel8917
      @atanvardecunambiel8917 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      MoD!Eliwood’s son was Ephraim, whose name was recycled for Sacred Stones.

  • @tymemaster
    @tymemaster ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I still have a document that tells you how to unlock characters in PoR for the extra maps that say you can unlock Greil by beating the game 20 times on the hardest mode with no deaths hilarious.

  • @josephpega2888
    @josephpega2888 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That mystery girl from three houses.
    Still is quite haunting to me for some reason.

    • @hellothisismufin
      @hellothisismufin ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's her being a late addition that was then changed that weird me out. The devs clearly touched up her data at one point, but nothing ever came of it. Maybe she was the prototype for Shez? Seeing as how we have things like "Sabre" in Shadow Dragon, which may have been a recycled name for Gaiden

    • @josephpega2888
      @josephpega2888 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hellothisismufin It's just of those things I have an obsession over. Just those smal hidden lost media type of stuff.

  • @ZayZenBlaze
    @ZayZenBlaze ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I still wish that we could have gotten Sothis as a playable character in Three Houses. Would have been so cool :)

  • @MugApwool
    @MugApwool ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In regards to Awakening I have come up with several theories. The file with the cut characters is a list of all the characters with dialogue which is why even ruffian is included on the list. To begin with, Libra doesn't appear on the list and Tharja, Nowi and Gregor are also in the incorrect on this list unlike every other character perhaps implying chapters 11 and 12 were the last to be finalised and also that Leopold was perhaps an early name for Libra. Andrea could have been an early name for Phila as she is the only significant character to not get a spotpass chapter despite having completed critical cut-ins. As for Bella and Minerva they are both located on the "miscellaneous" section list along with "Ruffian" which implies to me that these mounts were only on the list because the occasional mount dialogue featured in support conversations as with a majority of Cherche and Gerome's supports. Tracie is the only character I have no explanation for and is most likely simply cut.

  • @sheadonyoshi7
    @sheadonyoshi7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I definitely had some experience with the Sacred Stones prototypes. Although I still don't think this counts as a cut character, since I think this was likely just a placeholder name, you might have noticed all the generic bosses in this prototype all have the name Ibiru (イビル), which using Japanese Katakana, literally translates as "evil".
    Ah yes, every boss is evil. That much makes a lot of sense.

  • @rockowlgamer631
    @rockowlgamer631 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I just wish that it was possible to save Scarlet in Revelations

    • @ivanbluecool
      @ivanbluecool ปีที่แล้ว +8

      honestly the real question is why can't she support with ryouma. fates is so limited with the parents that if you marry someone in the in crowd you can potentially miss a child.
      scarlet just raise one from hoshido and buy her later that's what I did

    • @rockowlgamer631
      @rockowlgamer631 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ivanbluecool well I'd rather her be from the actual story instead of being bought since it doesn't feel the same. Granted while Scarlet is very much lacking in conversations which kinda sucks it would've given her even more character. All in all though she's my favorite mostly due to being a tomboy and like making mosaics out of shiny stones

    • @ivanbluecool
      @ivanbluecool ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rockowlgamer631 being a tomboy doesn't really change much about her. Hinoka is a tomboy same as some of the base cast not being to do basic conversations correctly like Setsuna
      Scarlet to ryouma like flora to Jakob should have honestly been given more supports than just the dlc conversations

    • @rockowlgamer631
      @rockowlgamer631 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ivanbluecool I know point being while it sucks Scarlet isn't as fully developed in convos as others I like her all the same

    • @fireembliam9090
      @fireembliam9090 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is the same that Flora cannot support with Xander.

  • @nobunobu3980
    @nobunobu3980 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    shout outs to neptune the completely scrapped fe 1 water dragon boss whose referenced in the valentian accordion and dagons

  • @bellablossomz
    @bellablossomz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is an amazing video that made me realize how many were cut! Interesting

  • @Anonymos185
    @Anonymos185 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ghast, Speeding and Excelblem are the 3 pillars holding up FE TH-cam for me. Always fun, interesting or both

  • @Ian-fi7co
    @Ian-fi7co ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just noticed FEH used Sothis' unused crit quotes for her special quotes.

  • @pobblebobble2497
    @pobblebobble2497 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Golly if only there was an FE5 romhack in development that brought back most of its unused content...
    Wouldn't that be cool....

  • @TheGreenBlur
    @TheGreenBlur ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'll never forgive them for cutting Hamburg.

  • @Palasid11
    @Palasid11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really like these types of videos, probably the most unique ones were the Fates capturable bosses, because it (Maybe) implies there were plans to make them real characters that you had to capture instead of glorified generic units

  • @joshuabarnes8707
    @joshuabarnes8707 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really enjoy your content. I would also really like to see you pick up the plot review (this is what happens in FE...) videos again, especially for Three Houses or my personal favorites, the Tellius games, but whichever way you go I'm sure it'll be great.

  • @AraiiarA
    @AraiiarA ปีที่แล้ว +12

    So sad Fedor never made it into Three Houses. As a Portuguese speaker, his name sounds epic
    Fedor = stink in Portuguese

    • @oof5992
      @oof5992 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Trueee

  • @megamanzero29
    @megamanzero29 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Funny how this was uploaded right after I finished watching castle conversations part 2

  • @DrewPicklesTheDark
    @DrewPicklesTheDark ปีที่แล้ว +6

    FE4 has a few unused boss portraits, though they are not tied to any characters.

  • @Juiceboxhero9001
    @Juiceboxhero9001 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love that grails default animation is Gmod crowbar lol

  • @29go
    @29go ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i wouldnt complain if you made a video about the sacred stones versions, that was my first one and i really care about that one

  • @CheerUpCrewcut
    @CheerUpCrewcut ปีที่แล้ว

    I've poured over FE wikis and TCRF a lot but I never knew about Count Galatea in Three Houses, as well as that giant list of names in Three Houses, that's odd. They put a lot of effort into the world of Three Houses so I imagine most or all of those names belonged to characters they had at least some idea about at some point, but perhaps they were also just unused alternate names for secondary, minor or even major characters that got passed over in favor of other options.
    This is a solid compilation of information, good stuff. As a huge fan of the Marth games I'm really curious as to why they omitted Gotoh in New Mystery, as well as what the deal with Sabre might've been.

  • @gameboyn64
    @gameboyn64 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A playable rhea would have fixed so many things about fe3h. The other 3 routes get the lords who are broken units with broken battalions and broken personnel weapons while silver snow gets... Seteth, who is available on two of the other routes, doesn't get a battalion, and doesn't get a relic/sacred weapon for part 2. Playable rhea would have also helped differentiate the plot of silver snow from verdant wind and explain why you don't fight nemesis but rhea in the final chapter. Would have been interesting to see a radicalized and unhinged rhea come to terms with her actions and her negative effects on fodlan while coming to terms with what's best for fodlan's future.

  • @loganmiller7827
    @loganmiller7827 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Is the Gaiden Forsyth they mentioned the same Forsyth that is playable in Echoes? If so that's so cool that they made him a real character in the remake

    • @Superluigi881
      @Superluigi881 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Forsyth is still in gaiden. This unused character just also happens to use his name. So there are two Forsyths in gaiden's code.

    • @charlotteshenkenberger345
      @charlotteshenkenberger345 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I like to think that yeah, Nintendo went back while making Echoes and decided to go ahead and add him back so the tradition of Red Playable Unit and Green Playable unit could continue.

    • @Robert_Refrigerator
      @Robert_Refrigerator ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Superluigi881 Forsyth replaced Force

  • @NX_TV
    @NX_TV 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm wondering if this unknown student character in 3 houses may have been Poe from Cipher 0? or Shez, maybe, planned for an integration in the base game too? But I feel like both of those options don't really make much sense, as the code must have been there before they'd plan anything like that, but at the same time the code did get updates, so maybe they kept working on this but cancelled because they thought it wouldn't be necessary, idk. I think Shez with a crest of flames would be weird, but maybe another that would have been common to FE3H and FEW3H's DLC, maybe? but again, the code is probably way older than the pre production of the musou spinoff.

  • @thecursed_1lordofcats738
    @thecursed_1lordofcats738 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It seems like all of Sothis's lines are also her Special quotes in Heroes.

  • @wonder6835
    @wonder6835 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love Rhea

  • @sebastianodepietri6411
    @sebastianodepietri6411 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just love every kind of cut content in fire emblem, even though I've done multiple researches on the topic, I hope there's something I don't know here.
    Forgot to write this, edit: I actually discovered something new here, I didn't know of fake Clive for example.

  • @thewanderingminstrel1448
    @thewanderingminstrel1448 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty cool to learn that they put a cut character into the remaster with Forsyth

    • @yagofazcoisaseuacho8035
      @yagofazcoisaseuacho8035 ปีที่แล้ว

      Forsyth wasn't cut, his data was just duplicated in the original game from what I understand

  • @reidskull5018
    @reidskull5018 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Everybody gangsta til Schumacher shows up in Crimson Flower 🥶🥵😵‍💫😨

  • @icetailgreg
    @icetailgreg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’d have loved to see what the Radiance Heather would have been, especially since they would have been so different from the one I know

  • @solidskullz5736
    @solidskullz5736 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Fire emblem lost treasures

    • @Doralga
      @Doralga ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Sounds like a good name for a Fire Emblem game just imagine starting as Pirate's heist on a castle.

    • @mr.personalspace7831
      @mr.personalspace7831 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I’d play that.

  • @hellothisismufin
    @hellothisismufin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On the topic of Nichol and Candace, I've always felt that Capture was such a missed opportunity in Fates. There's potential to expand your army in each game by capturing playable characters from the other routes, but with all the interpersonal connections at play, I could see that being difficult. Maybe 3H could have had something similar post-timeskip?

  • @fireembliam9090
    @fireembliam9090 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:30 Those animation looks great.

  • @nathanmcclung3564
    @nathanmcclung3564 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    isn't some of these the names of those weapons. The statue creatures that the rhea has which I think one was named mary.

  • @emp7884
    @emp7884 ปีที่แล้ว

    I forgot where I heard it but three houses had a second generation planned before they scrapped it. Maybe those are the names between the playables and major NPCs

  • @MizuBite
    @MizuBite ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Andrea is interesting since Robin's European name (Daraen) is an anagram of, well, Andrea

  • @jamiwami7280
    @jamiwami7280 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ERIKAS OLD ANIMATION IN FE8 WAS SO GOOD

  • @Ace-2048
    @Ace-2048 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can't believe we were robbed of a character named Hamburg :(

  • @fimbulvetr-1410
    @fimbulvetr-1410 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you missed the prototype Red Kyle and readjusted/Beta Forde, as well as Lute, Neimi, Ewan, Tethys, Tana, Eirika, Ephraim and Seth for Sacred Stones. If the above, Kyle's is notable because he changes drastically and looks nothing like his final iteration. Maybe it's because that iteration is supposed to be Nate and not Kyle like it's been assumed?
    Edit: Neimi is also kind of notable because she's using Tethys's colors and clothes. I think she was slated to be the dancer of FE8 originally. I only mention a few of these in detail simply because a few of these initial designs implied a completely different intended end result than what we got.

  • @luxrayblast
    @luxrayblast ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You forgot to mention that Forsyth is playable in Echoes, Gaiden's Remake. I was hoping you'd mention that. I had no idea he was unused in Gaiden.

  • @fireembliam9090
    @fireembliam9090 ปีที่แล้ว

    15:33 Those quotes are use in Fire Emblem Heroes.

  • @FereldenKrogan
    @FereldenKrogan ปีที่แล้ว

    Doesn't Phila have critical quotes in Awakening and Lilith in Awakening?

  • @jediguardiankyle
    @jediguardiankyle ปีที่แล้ว

    The crest of flames chick from three houses I’m so curious about her

  • @tymemaster
    @tymemaster ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So sothis' quotes ended up being used in heroes thats cool

  • @davidhill8565
    @davidhill8565 ปีที่แล้ว

    Terminology:
    • “Unused” refers to characters who can only be found in the game’s data.
    • “Cut” refers to characters who are absent from the final retail product of their game.
    • “Relegated” refers to characters who have internal information implying that they were intended to be playable at some point in the game, but are only used as NPCs or as enemies.
    • “Dummied” refers to unique name strings only found in the game’s data.

  • @TheAustin1
    @TheAustin1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    it's a shame that some of them weren't recruitable

  • @You-re9nr
    @You-re9nr ปีที่แล้ว

    Where’s Anthony from fates. He has a human for with stats and character description (a stranger to war). Also ghost Azura too. She even has lines in the castle.

  • @ScoopsMayCry
    @ScoopsMayCry ปีที่แล้ว

    Sanaki Black might be a evil version of the original cause it's a common naming convention in Japan
    And for Berkut I think it's said somewhere that he was meant to be recruitable but that was changed because they didn't want to recruit every villain. And I can see them putting Fernand out as a guest temporary unit during one of the chapters before he defects.

  • @bug8992
    @bug8992 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:19 I actually thought you said fucked and I had to play the last ten seconds again. Then I realized you said fought

  • @MugApwool
    @MugApwool 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    4:14 *WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY!?!*

  • @klissattack
    @klissattack ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A different sword cav named Heather? I can only imagine she'd be 1000 times better then the sword cav we got

  • @cabbusses
    @cabbusses ปีที่แล้ว

    I noticed BSFE wasn't mentioned. Was there nothing cut in that of note?

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There are some cut portraits for Palla and...er, I think it was Camus. But they are not an indication of anything, they simply belong to unused versions of cutscenes that were instead handled through audiostreaming. Otherwise, most of the rom is cut content and not unique. No, really, they literally just replaced chapter 1 of FE3 with each of these chapters, removed some class-data like battle animations and some sprite sheets and then called it a day. Even weaponlocks are intact according to documentation.

    • @cabbusses
      @cabbusses ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lpfan4491 Woah woah woah, this is sounding interesting/peculiar. The unusued portraits, if you are correct, I would like to see since I'd like to have the lost PSRAM data restored. Are all the cutscene CGs present? I'd assume not (Otherwise the whole PSRAM section would be mostly redundant data, which is unlike most Soundlink games), but it's interesting nevertheless if the portraits are taken from those. Is it specifically those two characters, and no others, regardless of if they appeared in a cutscene CG or not?
      As for the map data, by saying they "literally replaced chapter 1 of FE3", does that mean there's a number of FE3 Book 2 maps present in the data afterwards? How about book 1? Would they be possible to hack into modified trial maps of their own? How much junk would crash if you tried putting Marth back in there? How deep does that rabbit hole go? This might be interesting because BS Super Mario Collection epsiode 3's dump has level and map data that corresponds with the otherwise undumped episode 2 alongside the data for normal All-Stars SMB3 levels that are unused, so while it's not too likely it it opens up the idea of more BS Fire Emblem something-or-other having been considered or scrapped.
      Apolgoies if I'm overthinking it, I'm just a big Satellaview buff and definitely wanted to hear more on that entry.

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cabbusses Every chapter exists except chapter 1, which each BSFE chapter replaces.
      More detailed info is available on the cutting room floor-page, though iirc, it is not actually fully documented how much individual data survived(As in, for example Marth exists, but no idea if his stats are still there), but I think the general rule was that assets were largely removed.

    • @cabbusses
      @cabbusses ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lpfan4491 I'll be sure to keep a lookout on that. Thanks for all the info!

  • @RadiancePath936
    @RadiancePath936 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are not unused but very rare death quotes for characters if you beat the game after a certain number of times Cana's and Hawkeyes quotes mention Niime and Igrene though Hawkeye calls Igrene his sister.

  • @FereldenKrogan
    @FereldenKrogan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Huh, useless trivia but Rhea has Makoto and Sothis has Morgana voice actors from Persona 5 and both FE characters ended up unplayable

  • @Alice-FE
    @Alice-FE ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Babe, wake up! New Fearghast video!

  • @AniArtistMe
    @AniArtistMe ปีที่แล้ว

    Can we chat about Underrated Characters that has Potential to be amazing characters?
    Like Vika for example amazing design but never had a lot of supports, character and bad stats

  • @givecamichips
    @givecamichips 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Crimson Flower has Jeritza. Azure Moon has Gilbert.
    Silver Snow should have had Rhea. Verdant Wind should have had Judith.

  • @robertm5110
    @robertm5110 ปีที่แล้ว

    Uther would be cool to have in FEH

  • @ivanbluecool
    @ivanbluecool ปีที่แล้ว +2

    wish echoes made the amiboo characters like fates. awakening pre amiboo was good having special class lodestar Marth. then fates was the closest to perfection with actually having 4 popular characters as well as giving Marth and Ike new styles for current games.
    then echoes went completely backwards making it pointless to use the amiboo as they are set to default and can't even be raised. I would have loved a playthrough of robin lucina Marth Ike corrin twins Roy to fight the enemies.

  • @propoppop9866
    @propoppop9866 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From what I know sophisticated is actually not unused, there is an item called shield of sophis and when using this sophis casts a spell on everyone and from what I know that's why spohis has character data so she can show up there and the voiceless are just a fail safe

  • @lightdrgn20
    @lightdrgn20 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like that beta Erika animation.

  • @fireembliam9090
    @fireembliam9090 ปีที่แล้ว

    17:20 There is Helda but IS put in Hilda instead.

  • @fireembliam9090
    @fireembliam9090 ปีที่แล้ว

    18:35 you are 700 subscribers away.

  • @dom3355
    @dom3355 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wish we could have recruited Galle.

  • @Gag1800
    @Gag1800 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would have been so cool to have Berkut and Fernand playable, whether by some late game missable bonus unlock (i.e. you have to fulfill certain conditions to save them) or a NG+ bonus (perhaps they simply don't die on NG+).

  • @fireembliam9090
    @fireembliam9090 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:00 That is a phone.

  • @gameboyn64
    @gameboyn64 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol so the devs working on sacred stones saw demo eirika and were like "how can we make this as boring and generic as possible"

  • @ivanbluecool
    @ivanbluecool ปีที่แล้ว +7

    echoes wish berkut was playable as his voice lines just sound like he is dissing alm and his leadership skills. Fernand no thanks I rather have genetic paladin guy from the dlc than him.
    Fe fates the capture system was a nice way of still letting the already made characters be playable in some way same as the hidden class lancer when you capture an enemy soldier. it makes it feel special when you raise one to the max
    guess it's lucky feh exists to give npc units spotlight or enemy units playability

  • @fireembliam9090
    @fireembliam9090 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:17 Did he said a inappropriate word.