Tanks in the Mud - Typhoon Rising - Turn 1 - Graviteam Tactics Mius Front

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  • @Tonci87
    @Tonci87  2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    When I announced that I would play the Typhoon rising campaign, I had thought that the location of this battle would be closer to Orel or Bryansk, so outside of Ukraine. Only after starting to play, did I realize that the location is still within Ukraines borders. It is extremely sad that the battlegrounds of the past have become battlefields again. And once again it is because of the deranged notions of superiority of a crazy dictator.

    • @PSYCHOpaty4
      @PSYCHOpaty4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Conflict in Ukraine has much more reasons, than just will of a crazy dictator. Basicly, it all started in 2014, when legitimate goverment was overthrown and the new one started to put pressure on the Russian-speaking population in the Donbass. Nazism began to develop in Ukraine. At first people republics of Donbass didn't want separation from Ukraine. They wanted the federalization of the country and suppression of Nazism. But then Antiterrorist operation happend. By the way, Russia was trying to resolve the conflict peacefully. For this, the Minsk agreements were created. But Ukraine ignored them for past 8 years. At the beginning of this year, Ukraine was preparing an offensive against the Donbass. People republics asked Russia for protection. Russia agreed. And so, some time later, war between Ukraine and Russia started.
      I don't like my goverment (I'm Russian) as well as I don't like other capitalist governments. I don't like that war, as many Russians and Ukrainians I hoped that it will never happen. I have friends in Ukraine and I hate that they have to live their country. But it is wrong to blame one side by turning a blind eye to the crimes of the other. Ukrainian government could have prevented the war, could have ended it. But they didn't. What i'm trying to say, is that not only Putin is to blame for this war. It's silly and naive point of view. Ukrainian goverment, as well as their puppeteer US goverment are guilty too.
      I apologize if I hurt someone with that text, I really didn't mean to. But this is how I see that situation, as a man who followed it almost from the beginning of the conflict . And I think that is the right opinion.
      (Was written with help of Google Translate by a man who isn't good at writing English).

    • @BrorealeK
      @BrorealeK 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PSYCHOpaty4 Stop trying to pull off this z-fascist propaganda. It all fell apart for you months ago. You yourselves have stated again and again that Ukraininans aren't a real people, aren't a real country, that they are 'Nazis' for simply calling themselves not Russians. You posted videos of yourselves disembowling prisoners of war, bragged about raping peace activists, posed over mass graves, laughed at pictures of dead civilians, burned, shot, torched, bombed, and raped everything Ukrainian you could get your hands on out of existence. Then you have the gall to pretend you people are trying to resolve this peacefully? Fuck you. You haven't followeed jack shit. You passively accepted the development of Nazism in your own country just like you've passively accepted everything since Putin bombed his own people to invade Chechnya, because the sad thing is you don't even value Russian lives.
      Don't like how it turned out? You shouldn't have gone to bat for your puppet Yanukovich. You shouldn't have invaded Donbas with dudes who liked tattooing swastikas on their bodies. You shouldn't have engineered the obviously fake "referendum" in Crimea. You shouldn't have been so fucking deranged that you began to believe your own propaganda you were selling to the West. Now you actually think you're an ubermensch race of ultra-Slavic warriors as you send your inconvenient peoples, Dagestanis and Buryats, to kill and die for you for nothing more than the desire to feel powerful.
      You think the US is responsible for this war? No. You are. You could have accepted a permanent, peaceful Ukraine on your borders. You could have accepted the fact that your former colonies no longer want anything to do with you. You could have simply lived among your "brotherly peoples" without murdering, torturing, and enslaving them. But you couldn't, because you kept looking at your stupid map of the Russian Empire and pining over a fantasy.
      You don't like Putin? You don't like United Russia? Get rid of them. Don't like how many good Russian men are dying in Ukraine? Take them out. Don't like Ukraine's "fascism"? Clean out your own house before pointing fingers at anyone else, because you've got it far worse than any country in Europe or Asia.

    • @ggtt2547
      @ggtt2547 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Since i allready see silly replies on this comment, let me chime in. Very well said. All the rational people agree with your synopsis of the war. The rest can go be their enlightened and anti official narrative selves in ruzzia and see how warm they are received!

    • @Tonci87
      @Tonci87  2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@PSYCHOpaty4 A sensible comment but I think you have a distorted view on some aspects of it, considering how it started. Some of the things you write are the official russian government position on how things happened. Well, they have been lying for a long time.
      I have followed it very closely from the beginning as well.
      The former Ukrainian government won the elections in 2012 in the wake of accusations that massive vote fraud has taken place. So the legitimacy of that government can be somewhat questioned.
      The widespread corruption, and political decisions to move Ukraine deeper into Russias sphere of influence led to the massive Euromaidan protests. The terribly violent response of the security services led to an escalation and ultimately the fall of the government.
      So far this was all an internal Ukrainian affair.
      Russian sponsored groups and agents started to stir up ethnic tensions in the east of Ukraine, which was admittedly not helped by hasty reactions from Kiev.
      Russia then used the brewing conflict, it helped to incite, to invade and occupy Crimea.
      This here is the real start of the war. Russias soldiers simply invaded a neighboring country.
      In order to keep Ukraine in a state of chaos, they funded and massively supported the DPR and LNR. There is a lot of evidence for that and the original perpetrators like Girkin freely admit it (by the way, do read up on that terrible excuse for a human being).
      In essence Russia had invaded Ukraine, stole a massive and valuable part of that country and destabilized another part to annex it eventually.
      So what chance did Ukraine have to end this peacefully? Allow Russia to keep Crimea and the DNR and LNR to secede so that they can join Russia eventually?
      Those terms would have been unacceptable for any country.
      The simple truth is that the crisis would not have never happened if Russia didn´t invade Crimea and didn´t create, fund and support extremist groups in east Ukraine.
      A peaceful solution would have been possible only if Russia withdrew it´s support for the DPR and LNR and removed itself from Crimea. Because Russia didn´t do that, the conflict remained active.
      Thinking that it can not only keep Crimea, but also capture all of Ukraine, Russia started a massive invasion of Ukraine in February, aiming to capture Kiev and depose the elected government.
      I really hope that this conflict ends soon because I don´t want people to die. Not Ukrainians, and not Russians. It is a senseless war. But after this invasion and the many escalations by Russia, Ukraine can no longer accept a return to the previous status. A peace or ceasefire would only benefit Russia and give them time to sort out their mess.
      Therefore this war will go on until Russia will have no other choice than to retreat from the Ukrainian mainland (I could see a compromise where Russia keeps Crimea).
      At this point I see no other possible end to this since the international support for Ukraine is much larger than what Russia is able to commit.

    • @arkadiy9321
      @arkadiy9321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@PSYCHOpaty4 suppose everything you said is correct. It matters not one bit since Russian armed forces have been and still are killing and maiming Ukrainians (soldiers or civilians), launching “precision” missiles at shopping centers and generally leveling cities. That is what matters first and foremost, trying to find any excuses for it is useless. The occupying force needs to withdraw in its entirety any strikes have to stop - it’s as simple as that.

  • @BrorealeK
    @BrorealeK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This game's attention to detaill is amazing. I love the mud caked into your tanks, it's a great touch.

    • @Tonci87
      @Tonci87  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, it is :)

  • @themigmadmarine
    @themigmadmarine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "Who the hell told you can retreat!" Spoke like a true Soviet commander.

  • @jamesconnelly1916
    @jamesconnelly1916 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wild start! And you finally got to use the T-50! This looks like it will be a very interesting campaign. Looking forward to next episode as always.

    • @Tonci87
      @Tonci87  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, I was looking forward to playing with those little tanks :D

  • @FryingBullet
    @FryingBullet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great to see the start of a new campaign. I have finally caught up watching previous episodes. Now to watch this unfold week by week!

  • @plau011
    @plau011 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love your Graviteam map to current map comparison! Very interesting👍

    • @Tonci87
      @Tonci87  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you, it was a lot of effort to line up everything

    • @man_vs_life
      @man_vs_life 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too. It brings a concreteness/reality to the game.

  • @chuckg3325
    @chuckg3325 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6 minutes in and I'm already getting excited cause I remember heavy fighting defending that cemetery during this opp in GT. Germans got smacked by my T34's

  • @mcsmash4905
    @mcsmash4905 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i tried a battle alongside the ai commander in SABOW (old operation star engine) , there were checkered or broken up arrows pointing towards the objectives the ai planned to attack , so according to my own observations the broken up arrows mean scouting and when they become solid or ˝˝full˝˝ it means the ai goes into the attack , its actually a really nice system that lets the player know what the ai ally is planing to do , and while the ai isnt bad there is ofc the issue of them being a separate entity to the player so its hard to cooperate (pretty much a real life occurence in warfare)

    • @Tonci87
      @Tonci87  ปีที่แล้ว

      Good to know!

  • @ggtt2547
    @ggtt2547 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good to see you back on the frontlines!!!

  • @blackbaron3330
    @blackbaron3330 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been waiting for the graviteam series to continue, great job !

  • @paulchenpanther1256
    @paulchenpanther1256 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Prima das es mit Mius weitergeht. Schönen Dank für deine Mühe bei der Einführung, sehr gut und Interressant gemacht mit den Original Schauplätzen..

    • @Tonci87
      @Tonci87  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dankeschön. Ich denke es ist interessanter diese Kampagne zu verfolgen wenn man den Kontext besser einordnen kann.

  • @robertsantamaria6857
    @robertsantamaria6857 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was just playing this campaign last weekend, so this will be nice to see how you handle it. I used up my infantry pretty rapidly.

    • @Tonci87
      @Tonci87  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      After seeing how fast they break and run, I´m not too optimistic about them.

  • @battleshipfreez2344
    @battleshipfreez2344 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:02:30 Tellerming42 weights 9.1kg, contains 5.5kg TNT. Need quite some technique to use against tanks.

    • @Tonci87
      @Tonci87  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well desperation is a powerful motivator

  • @edmundcowan9131
    @edmundcowan9131 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job as usual thanks for your hard work presenting us.

    • @Tonci87
      @Tonci87  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you :)

  • @Ketpain
    @Ketpain 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    here we goooooooooooo

  • @JuliusGeezer447
    @JuliusGeezer447 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Yuri, drive me closer so I can hit them with my sword!"

  • @hendrik4314
    @hendrik4314 ปีที่แล้ว

    what map were you using between 2:12 and 5:11? It looks like a perfect map to know the way the frontlines moved during the war

    • @Tonci87
      @Tonci87  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      pamyat-naroda.ru/ops/ I believe this website is affiliated with the Russian government, and they do have their own take on some historic events. Keep that in mind when using it

    • @hendrik4314
      @hendrik4314 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tonci87 thanks, i will keep it in mind when using it but it's better than nothing i guess

  • @themigmadmarine
    @themigmadmarine 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gun at 40:45 looked like a 3.7 Pak 36

    • @Tonci87
      @Tonci87  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, it was one. I misidentified it initially.

  • @junkjack1015
    @junkjack1015 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you think you'd fo a series on operation victory?

    • @Tonci87
      @Tonci87  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Eventually yes. I´ll do all the Mius Front DLCs, more or less in chronological order (I might do the Cold War DLCs early if Ukraine remains a battlefield).

  • @texoschannel4907
    @texoschannel4907 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video!
    How do you give direction to the unit when you tell them to defend?
    PS you keep ordering tanks to assault , they are behaving like mad men assaulting, that includes driving forward more than needed. Especially with low experience

    • @Tonci87
      @Tonci87  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Press Space to give the order, then you can hold and drag into the direction you want them to face

    • @texoschannel4907
      @texoschannel4907 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Tonci87 still don’t get it. I get the wheel menu on the screen, click on defend button and then right click to give order. If I drag instead of clicking it doesn’t make a difference, the order is given as soon as I clicked on the defend button. What am I missing?

    • @Tonci87
      @Tonci87  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@texoschannel4907 Ok, in steps:
      1. Press Space, the wheel comes up.
      2. Select the order, for example defend by left click. Your cursor will change.
      3. Right click, hold and drag from the place where the unit should defend from, to the direction they should face.
      4. Release

    • @texoschannel4907
      @texoschannel4907 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Tonci87 thank you, it works!

  • @bjornginger1789
    @bjornginger1789 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder whether Tonci87, and other youtubers that are playing these games, are doing their troop movements based on what the troops are aware of or whether they do them based on what they themmselves are aware of? The Mius-Front games have a colour system which shows whether ones troops have knowledge about the whereabouts of enemy troops. If Tonci87, and other players, aren't basing their troop movements on the knowledge the troops have I think that one perhaps could say that they aren't not playing fair against the AI.

    • @Tonci87
      @Tonci87  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh, that is a very interesting question, I like it.
      Of course I bade my decisions on the information that I see. It would be incredibly hard for me to make microstrategic decisions, based on what the individual groups see, because it would be almost impossible to keep track of the things they see and the things that are not within their sight anymore (those icons vanish).
      As for the AI commander: I think the AI commander will make his decisions based on the strategic situation that he can see overall, not on what the individual soldiers can observe.
      And in contrast to me, he can make multiple decisions per second.
      So I guess it is fair after all :)

    • @bjornginger1789
      @bjornginger1789 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If the spotting system in Mius-Front was similar to how it is in the Combat Mission games it would be much easier, and much quicker, to find out which troops know what and thus much easier to use that when playing these real-time games. With all the different coloured icons in this game it's sometimes easy to forget which spotting colour means what.

    • @Tonci87
      @Tonci87  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bjornginger1789 I think Mius front might be a bit more precise. Once you know what the colors mean of course

  • @daroth7127
    @daroth7127 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you can please get up close to the fighting and hide the hud when you can, its really the best parts of thease vids!

    • @Tonci87
      @Tonci87  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I´ll try to do it more often :)

  • @Bay_den_vu_tru
    @Bay_den_vu_tru ปีที่แล้ว

    Can we say that AI in this game is pretty machine? Thay make a massive frontal assault though this is a totally bad idea

    • @Tonci87
      @Tonci87  ปีที่แล้ว

      Not really. In my experience they do try to use their forces as well as they can, considering what they know about my forces, and considering their historical objective. At this point the Germans were on the advance and the Soviets in this area were under a lot of pressure.

  • @2Dark03
    @2Dark03 ปีที่แล้ว

    What does it mean when you have no control over the units?

    • @Tonci87
      @Tonci87  ปีที่แล้ว

      Could you explain your question please?

  • @Coinkidoink
    @Coinkidoink 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This map is used a lot I think. I have a dlc with atleast 2 operations on a map that looked like this, hehe.

    • @arkadiy9321
      @arkadiy9321 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      you are probably thinking of Kransaya Polyana? Don't think this one is used anywhere else

    • @Coinkidoink
      @Coinkidoink 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@arkadiy9321 Went ingame to check now and i don't know what DLC its part of, but its refereed to as a battle near Kharkov at Peschano.
      And yeah, its not the same map, just has a extremely similar river running through it.

    • @arkadiy9321
      @arkadiy9321 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Coinkidoink yes, Peschanoe/Nepokrytaya is also “popular” (two DLCs with multiple operations each)