@@VictorDurand-me5yu Because It wasn't a direct hit for Kuma, and he's a robot, and white beard used the last of his adrenaline to get akainu and failed either way.
@@Saitama.Opm0shut up. Yonkotards are annoying. I was for the believe that Admirals are equals to Yonkos or slightly below. But damn yonko fans annoyed me to the point I would say Admirals would defeat Yonkos. And Akainu defeats all the old gen
Odas responses are the reason, he literally said he cherish this guy, that he could find one piece in one year if he were the mc(which includes finding 4 road poneglifs, and taking 2 of them from Kaido and BM), said that he has the highest offensive power, that his bounty is 5 billion, all that on top of the narrative that new gen is going to surpass the old and that Luffys later opponents should be stronger than ones Roger had. Well, at least that is what I assume hyped him so much🤷🏻♀️
@@vampiranya9939 he said "with mc as strong as manga i will end series in 1 year" 💀 💀 which means all that poneglliph and all, yeah he is doing it in 48 chapters or 30 episode
Makes no sense when you consider he asks Luffy this question after zoro declares he’d be the world strongest swordsman and says becoming pirate king is tougher than surpassing himself which would encompass strength in this context.
@@sbthesage2100 pk doesn't mean strength, it just means you got the one piece first... you need a strong enough crew, good enough ship, poneglyph reader and other things to become pk mihawk is just referring to a harder journey
@ that’s not really a good point. that’s like saying Buggy and Blackbeard have Conqueror’s just cuz they’re emperors. there’s nothing in the story at all suggesting Sakazuki has Conquerors, he would’ve used it during Marineford cuz Oda definitely had haki around by that time
@@kvngslatt_ Haki was not at all fleshed out during marineford like it is during the time Skip. The last fleet admiral had it, akainu has clear king ambition. Bro zoro who's currently a right hand has coc haki why wouldn't the damn fleet admiral have it?? C'mon now.
@kvngslatt_ Despite Akainu holding back he was clearly stronger in Marineford than Whitebeard in the manga. Akainu has an advanced armament and observation haki. Akainu has the highest offensive power. Akainu has insane stamina and durability. Akainu most likely has an awakened DF because he changed Punk Hazard PERMANENTLY. Akainu has a bounty of 5 billion at the very least. Akainu was glazed by Oda multiple times. Multiple feats like taking on all Whitebeard commanders alone and winning, defeating Kuzan, killing Ace and so on
Oda is going to buff tf out of the current gen in this saga to make them all threats. The tierlists where there is just this old gen tier sitting on top are going to get shaken tf up.
it took everything from Akainu to finish off old sick Whitebeard, they had to jump him, have one of his crewmate stab him etc and Akainu still barely won with all that extra help, knowing Whitebeard was not only old & sick but also unable to use conqueror and now I'm supposed to believe Akainu could match Roger in a 1v1, Roger being someone who's equal to prime young Whitebeard with haki and no sickness? lmao okay good shit the whole marine was terrified of Ace's existence just because he was Roger's son lmao that alone shows you even the marines know they aint shit
Ok Not an Akainu glazer but he got a huge power up. Remember like reileigh said strong fights with strong opponents increase you power more than any training can increase it. He got stronger. I doubt he can beat Roger but he is Roger level. Roger high diffs It's not an extreme diff fight so it doesn't go both way. Only goes to roger
This is exactly what I'm talking about. Akainu was struggling against an old sick WB who had many disadvantages in the fight. And his fanboys believe Oda would make him stronger than Roger and Prime WB. That's like -10 reading comprehension.
@@abhishek.k7713 bro how big of a power up do you think he got by being dogwalked by an old dying man and staying at the office ever since? explain to me how he should scale to prime Roger & Whitebeard when he wasn't able to finish off a dying fuckin Kuma escaping mariejoie? I think I missed his big impressive power showings because Akainu glazers love to hype him up to pirate king level when Garp would honestly give him a solid run and Garp himself stated he gets massively weaker everyday and he's not sick like Newgate was Whitebeard was so sick he had to be plugged on life support and needed Marco & nurses watching over him & still made him look soft so unless he got like 50x stronger he'd still need to jump WB 🤣
@@aanthonyy_ Luffy got 30 times stronger while fighting katakuri(this is not including his gears. If we did count it then it's much more) Akainu fought aokiji for 10 days. Because their fruit cancel each other they both used their haki mire than their fruit and using haki in these fights let's you take it to the next level easily. If you don't have advanced your chances of learning it is incredible in these situations and those who already know it takes their haki to the next level with fights like these. It is already shown kuznas raw striking strength (without covering it with any type of haki. Just bare hands)is equal to primes Garp's raw striking strength(not using haki either)new vivre card confirms kuzan has conquerors and he can coat his attacks in it and he also has advanced armament. We don't know if he has adv observation(future sight) but Kizaru does and it's given all admirals has both adv obs and adv arm but not counting arv obs for kuzan for the sake of it But Akainu beat him. He beat someone with prime garps raw striking strength, old garp level haki(still yonko level haki)and one of the strongest devil fruit in the verse along with combat training from Garp. And after the fight they BOTH GOT EXTREMELY STRONGER. PROBABLY EVEN 50 TIMES STRONGER
@@KizaruGlazers 😂 you are a total 🤡 go to the circus. One haki wave was as big a the egg head island, De powered all the Gorosei, affected Imu all the way in the holy land. That’s top 1 haki
You know why it's not close because you and I both know the Mad red dog doesn't stand a chance against the king of the Pirates. He killed. His son, so he's going to kill him.
@@atom4282old midbeard is so overrated in the anime. Akainu literally slammed old midbeard in the manga lmfao. Manga >>> anime. We’re now in endgame now and still saying akainu is an old midbeard victim until this day is just re****. Akainu folds old midbeard currently and it’s not close. akainu is literally shanks level cry more oda said his saving akainu for luffy in the end oda glazes akainu and there's nothing you can do about he will defeat all your favourite characters and you will cry hard lol unless your going to argue with oda and he won't give a dam
@@SHADOWISTHEGOAT-e4v why tf are YOU crying lil bro? Oldbeard literally won that fight, sure akainu slams him rn considering he is an endgame villain but back in MF he cheap shotted oldbeard when he was having a heart attack so it's just fair that he also cheap shotted akainu in the . manga and yes, I do know that manga > anime when it comes to scaling. Where did Oda say that he cherishes akainu give me a source I'm not caught up with that.
@@SHADOWISTHEGOAT-e4v and stop glazing tf outta him he ain't all that. Y'all need to realize if he doesn't fight Luffy he ain't even stronger than shanks so zip it up when you are done lil bro.
This makes the fight sound high/extreme but take only like 5 mins. Knowing Oda the fight would be a few days before what you described actually happens
The type of fights that you’re referencing are when characters are damn near equal. The fight I described is like a mid diff lol closer to shanks vs kid than akainu vs Kuzan or WB vs Roger
Garp's strength as stated by himself pre timeskip can't do half what it used to And when he did Galaxy impact he said it himself Strength nerfs also follow acoc nerfs since your acoc is as strong as your strength And this Garp still did well against Kuzan And Aokiji and Akainu fought for 10 days so him taking Aokiji's leg doesn't put him above g5 and sick heart attack wb Not to mention Luffy didn't use acoc Neither did wb too lol And cornering Roger isn't by strength alone And Whitebeard had statement from crocodile that this wasn't the monster that beat him and that was literally why he was trying to attack him I mean imagine getting blitzed by SQUARD And divine departure was a GREETING to test Oden(when people divide their strength into levels to see if their opps can withstand it) Oden literally said they were far above him This Oden was relative to Kaido
2:23 No it does not, pirate king is not a strength title. To be the wss all you have to do is just be stronger than the current wss. To be pirate king you need someone who can read the poneglyphs and actually need to find the poneglyphs also. Being the pirate king is harder because you have to do so much more. WSS is just being strong thats why its easier it doesn’t necessitate anything with strength
roger was never the strongest pirate, he was the greatest pirate because his greatest feat is finding the legendary treasure, roger has no record of beating any top tiers in 1vs1, even begging to world strongest pirate aka just to become pirate king
He never said that nor is that relevant. He said that Roger is considered the strongest throughout the community. And then he said Roger & WB were relative in strength. You don’t have to beat a top tier to be a top tier I don’t know why people use this argument. Whitebeard, Kaido, Shanks, Akainu, Garp, & etc have never had on record showings of them beating a top tier. But that doesn’t change the fact that they could or that they are a top tier. And why is asking your friend to use his brother for something instead of just attacking him for it supposed to be an anti-feat.
@@Greenbull_goat So what. You’re acting like Luffy in Base is Roger level. He clearly isn’t a top tier when he lost to one 4 times. Luffy in Base is a Mid Tier. Splitting the sky was his first step to top tier. Sky splitting doesn’t dictate Top Tier. The admirals can’t do that and they’d wash Base Luffy.
I will never downplay papazuki for two reasons. One is being in an sbs oda said if akainu was the protagonist he would find the one piece in a year. Another reason is akainu has showed that he has so much drive and determination that I know his conquerors is gonna be crazy since all haki is, is will power
Bro Akainu is stated to by Oda himself to be the strongest marine in history meaning that he surpasses garp and sengoku who were equal to WB and roger. So Akainu < Roger
A dying and sick Roger was on part with Prime White beard. A dying and sick White beard was on part with Akainu Prime. Akainu need to hold back a little to be on part with Mihawk.
This fight isn't even close, Old Garp after getting stabbed and being mentally nerfed was able to blitz and over power Kuzan (a near equal to akainu) as soon as Koby needed help. And Roger massively outscales an old very injured Garp who is holding back because Roger was on Prime Garp's level
Sage, you missed the Xebec feat. Sonce Xebec was able to extreme diff a prime roger and garp, and seeing that the statement said that xebec was the most powerful adversary he has ever faced, its safe to say this puts roger over a prime WB, which scales him beyond the admirals and yonko.
@@KizaruGlazers Roger's strongest adversary was Xebec and this was said in road to laughtale databook. If sengoku can be scaled by one statement to Roger's level I don't see the problem for the others.
@@sbthesage2100 Or you can just stay in your little dreams and make more videos like this as if you consider it as " fact" lmao.... I rly think no body care bro as a one piece fan i just wanna tell you 🤷
Did you know that every strongest Admiral (Fleet Admiral candidates at least) has a relationship/dynamic with every def. Strongest/own the era pirate(Not Pirate King or Yonko)? Kong-Xebec; Garp-Roger; SenGoku-WB; Akainu-Luffy; & Aokiji-BB. There’s a reason why Oda has introduced the concept of the world’s strongest; Mihawk & WB before the Yonko. Throughout the series it’s constantly been proven that the term Yonko itself doesn’t translate to Top 4 strongest pirates/characters in the show; it’s not a strength based title same with PK. The way we use “Yonko lvl” in the community really should be Fleet Admiral lvl; we need to fix this as a community. In short Akainu has a chance to be stronger than Roger; if the previous 1 out of the 2 strongest Marines(Garp) can almost kill him; why can’t this generation? He’s set up to fight PK Luffy.
Akainu victimizes Gol D. Fraudger (the same guy who ducked a fight with Big mom who’s main force were all children at the time) even tho big mom is strong asf
Said who? Old mentally nerfed garp was overpowering Kuzan, even though he was mentally nerfed, Kuzan is more or less close to akainu. Garp would extreme diff both their ass.
So you’re saying Garp was as strong as he was in his Prime but also say Akainu mid diffs Garp because he’s old. Making your argument contradictory and meaningless. Also no he doesn’t. Kuzan while mentally nerfed High Diffs a weakened Garp with low stamina.
Dude is caping First Mihawk’s statement about Luffy’s goal being more difficult to achieve has nothing to do power or scaling, Whitebeard had no such dreams but still he was an equal to Roger, strength has nothing to do with it. I’m not saying Mihawk is stronger by any chance. As we don’t know anything about that but we should consider that even before Shanks reached his prime or before becoming an emperor, his duels with Hawkeyes were considered legendary by Whitebeard himself, that is probably before them reaching their prime. Shanks and Mihawk are stated to have the strongest rivalry in history. Is that enough to prove that they had surpassed the previous generation ? No because Whitebeard was stated to be strongest man in the world and Shanks agreed with that when Ace said he wanna bring the strongest man down. This statement obviously refers to a more healthy Whitebeard. But from what we know of haki Aokiji and Akainu must have gotten stronger during their 10 day fight because the more you use haki the stronger it becomes, we have seen Luffy getting an greater than his gear 4th from his haki getting stronger. If pre time skip Akainu could blow half of Whitebeard’s face with one punch hate to see what post time skip Akainu can do and the Whitebeard had a mental amp against Akainu while Akainu was kinda of telling Whitebeard that his time has passed and kinda underestimating him. Roger might win but “ it is not close” is straight cap
I don't agree with the idea of their Haki getting stronger even if it did only kuzans haki might have gotten stronger because he is following his dreams now and their fight was mostly based on df powers that's why punk hazard became half lava half ice. If sick old injured white beard would put up a fight against akainu then i would hate to see what prime wb or Roger would do to him
@@Azer-v6u Your not even refuting his claim with contradictions so your claim can be dismissed Akainu is literally working on his dream of eliminating all pirates step by step and how does following his dreams now connect to haki blooming? There's not a connection between not using haki and both of them turning Punk Hazard into half ice and half lava, they can still use haki while doing all that A holding back MARINEFORD Akainu was able to low diff at max a bloodlusted WB, and we know rage amps power in One Piece as they will not hold back and use all of there powers against you
You now are just molding the words I said to your will because i never said any of these statements that is nothing but delusion or an inability to process basic english. To start with I never said akainus haki was weak. I just said kuzans haki got stronger because akainu was already following his dreams and kuzan wasn't. Even worse i never said they didn't use haki in punk hazard? I just said it was mostly a df based fight and it actually was. We saw the fight between kuzan and garp and the island wouldn't turn half ice even in 10 days. You also claim akainu low diffed wb in marine ford. Even though that's doesn't even come close to to being true, wb at that time was old sick and injured fatally so even counting this imaginary instance of yours it wouldn't add up to anything. Here I left worse for last because you are speaking nonsense here. When in the world did rage in one piece happen? Did you even watch the show? Because honestly if you did that would be worse than not watching it and saying that. we all so what luffy did when his brother died he just collapsed this isn't naruto kid. All I said was right and i countered every word you said and that was easy tbh you were saying nonsense anyway. And I am pretty sure you didn't even watch the show at all or read the manga. And you probably won't even reply
I never said any of the things you claim i did. I never said akainus haki is weak i said aokijis hakis got stronger because only after leaving marines that he started following his dreams I also never said they didn't uses Haki in their fight i said it was mostly df power because that's and that's thebonly way they transform w whole island we saw garp and aokijis fight if that fight lasted 10 days the island wouldn't have transformed half ice. Lastly you are really retarded. If you actually watched one piece akainu didn't hold back??????? And couldn't kill a sick old fatally injured man and you said rage makes you stronger!?!!!!!!????? The whole show proves rage does nothing luffy collapsed when ace died I can't defend you buddy I really hope you're lying and you didn't watch one piece. You are really just yapping at this point. Every point you said I countered not proud though cause you made no points ...
@@itznub69 you're right about haki bloom but akainu wasn't holding back in marineford? Where is your proof for that? He literally has no reason to hold back. His objective was to finish off WB so if he held his AP back that wouldn't make sense but at the same time he would have to make sure that he doesn't destroy the island so holding his DC back is logical. And no, it wasn't a low diff fight more of a high diff fight for akainu.
Roger is fodder overrated. Any yonko slams roger. Kaido one taps Loger with death destroyer thunder bagua or flame dragon. Oden took no damage from kamusari
Not here to say who wons but The old gen are been glaze alot still and the admirals all of a suddenly has alot of d riders so no matter which side u say wins going to jave glazers
What are you on about, by the time luffy fights Akainu, luffy would've long surpassed roger and the old gen and began reaching to the joyboy terriotry of strength. This argument is just based on characters feats, and not accounting their narrative in the future, at most Roger's ceiling is Primebeard who severely held back during their clashes. And thinking Roger's conq would scare Akainu or insinuating that it would be similar to Gb reacting to shanks haki is straight up ludicrous as Kizaru casually negated that Haki joyboy unleashed (his most powerful conq haki) and walked to pick up the call whilst the vice admirals were knocked out.
@@Azer-v6u Your completely misninformed, and it seems like you've already made your judgement on who wins without having an open mind. Just remember this interaction when Oda fleshes out akainu and shows us why he's above the old gen.
@@StudentOfTG because joyboy haki was only effeting enemies and kizaru was mentally nerf so joyboy haki didn't detect him as enemy which is why it didn't effect him at all and btw the gorosei were fine after tanking conqeuror haki as it just only negate their ability but they were fine even saturn was fine
Ok I will remember this. Akainu is not even the main antagonist in the story for now and you counting on hopes while ignoring the raw data you have is nothing short of delusional. Akainus close fight against kuzan gives us a peak into his actual power level also relying mostly on df powers in a world where the strongest creature kaido said that haki is more important in strength makes akainus power level clear and we can see emphasis on akainus df in the vivre card and all his fights. And worde kuzan with good Haki and almost useless df against akainu put up a good fight against him.
Hahaha utter brainrot scaling assuming that every single possible interaction with the admirals is them going all out and the other side not. Trying to be the pirate king is more dangerous than trying to be the worlds strongest swordsman = stronger!!! sickbeard and shanks do a random sword clash where neither side is tryharding = shanks antifeat!!
Most of these people in the comments section have reading comprehension issues dude. If you genuinely think Rodger loses to any of the admirals. Great video man🎉🎉🎉🎉
Have this chat forgotten that akainu has olny won because whitebeard had terminal fucking cqncer and has been severely wounded by over 100 cuts and over 50 shots through,akainu is not winning against THE KING OF THE FUCKING PIRATES.
@@Akagami314 how like your telling me he has so many feats that are greater and more than rogers,explain how he the person who legit killed a person who was getting 1 vs 100+
@alexdeng1213 Whenever Akainu and whitebeard fought it was a 1 on 1 with no interferences. It's irrelevant that wb fought a bunch of people because it's mostly marine fodder yes Akainu has better overall feats than roger
@alexdeng1213 Better Stamina, Durability and endurance feats. Better attack power with his df plus advanced armament at minimum (at most he has his df plus acoc but that's not confirmed yet).
@@ndibunwapeter9013 he did get past WB, blow half his head off, filled him with magma. WB suckered punched Akinu and next chapter was fighting WB commanders and they got scared and retreated. WB couldnt defeat Akainu head to head and his sucker punch did no to little damage to him.
Shanks slams fraudhawk
Not relating to the video but fax
Just waiting for Shanks fans that have his Sword all the way to their throat be proven wrong by the manga
@@eirammelendez44 🥱
@@eirammelendez44 😂 ok bro
@@eirammelendez44mihawk negs shanks
Soon as Akainu stores enough haki into his desk the whole verse is finished
He better stay in that office or his ass is finished 😭🙏🏽
@@sbthesage2100
He better stay in the office or his ass is finished ❌️
He better stay in the office or the one piece verse will be finished ✅️
@@sbthesage2100zoro can cut magma so...
@@sbthesage2100stronger pirate=old joyboy
@@captainzee55 guys you really believe he is that strong...😅 This is a pirate show don't forget that...
Wrong. You aren't ready for HIM! 🌋
I’ll bet you he don’t surpass Roger 😂 but if he does I’ll take my L happily
Akainu (without using his DF): Mid/high diff
Akainu with his DF: One-Shot.
You guys are literally this emoji🤡
- can't one shot half dead kuma and corpse WB
@@VictorDurand-me5yu Because It wasn't a direct hit for Kuma, and he's a robot, and white beard used the last of his adrenaline to get akainu and failed either way.
@@Saitama.Opm0shut up. Yonkotards are annoying. I was for the believe that Admirals are equals to Yonkos or slightly below. But damn yonko fans annoyed me to the point I would say Admirals would defeat Yonkos. And Akainu defeats all the old gen
You gotta be a different level of glazer to think Akainu one shots Roger or anyone on his level 😂
Where are all these Akainu glazers coming from? 🤔
oda himself glazed akainu so now u know
What the guy above me said
Odas responses are the reason, he literally said he cherish this guy, that he could find one piece in one year if he were the mc(which includes finding 4 road poneglifs, and taking 2 of them from Kaido and BM), said that he has the highest offensive power, that his bounty is 5 billion, all that on top of the narrative that new gen is going to surpass the old and that Luffys later opponents should be stronger than ones Roger had. Well, at least that is what I assume hyped him so much🤷🏻♀️
@@vampiranya9939 he said "with mc as strong as manga i will end series in 1 year"
💀 💀 which means all that poneglliph and all, yeah he is doing it in 48 chapters or 30 episode
@@TheProphetLot 😭 😭
that Mihawk statement is just him saying becoming pirate king is way more dangerous and of full of risk than beating mihawk in a 1 on 1 fight
Makes no sense when you consider he asks Luffy this question after zoro declares he’d be the world strongest swordsman and says becoming pirate king is tougher than surpassing himself which would encompass strength in this context.
@@sbthesage2100 pk doesn't mean strength, it just means you got the one piece first... you need a strong enough crew, good enough ship, poneglyph reader and other things to become pk
mihawk is just referring to a harder journey
@@itznub69 it does mean strength but it isn't the only quality for PK
will never understand why Sakazuki is so gassed up by the community. does he even have Conqueror’s???
he definitely has it js not confirmed yet hes the fleet admiral of the navy
@ that’s not really a good point. that’s like saying Buggy and Blackbeard have Conqueror’s just cuz they’re emperors. there’s nothing in the story at all suggesting Sakazuki has Conquerors, he would’ve used it during Marineford cuz Oda definitely had haki around by that time
You don’t need conquerors to be a top tier
@@kvngslatt_ Haki was not at all fleshed out during marineford like it is during the time Skip. The last fleet admiral had it, akainu has clear king ambition. Bro zoro who's currently a right hand has coc haki why wouldn't the damn fleet admiral have it?? C'mon now.
@kvngslatt_
Despite Akainu holding back he was clearly stronger in Marineford than Whitebeard in the manga.
Akainu has an advanced armament and observation haki.
Akainu has the highest offensive power.
Akainu has insane stamina and durability.
Akainu most likely has an awakened DF because he changed Punk Hazard PERMANENTLY.
Akainu has a bounty of 5 billion at the very least.
Akainu was glazed by Oda multiple times.
Multiple feats like taking on all Whitebeard commanders alone and winning, defeating Kuzan, killing Ace and so on
Thi shit will age like a milk ngl
It will age like wine
i don't think this is even an argument lmao
it is close
Oda is going to buff tf out of the current gen in this saga to make them all threats.
The tierlists where there is just this old gen tier sitting on top are going to get shaken tf up.
it took everything from Akainu to finish off old sick Whitebeard, they had to jump him, have one of his crewmate stab him etc and Akainu still barely won with all that extra help, knowing Whitebeard was not only old & sick but also unable to use conqueror
and now I'm supposed to believe Akainu could match Roger in a 1v1, Roger being someone who's equal to prime young Whitebeard with haki and no sickness? lmao okay good shit
the whole marine was terrified of Ace's existence just because he was Roger's son lmao that alone shows you even the marines know they aint shit
Wb never fought all 3 admirals simultaneously, he fought them all individually.
Ok Not an Akainu glazer but he got a huge power up. Remember like reileigh said strong fights with strong opponents increase you power more than any training can increase it.
He got stronger. I doubt he can beat Roger but he is Roger level. Roger high diffs
It's not an extreme diff fight so it doesn't go both way. Only goes to roger
This is exactly what I'm talking about. Akainu was struggling against an old sick WB who had many disadvantages in the fight. And his fanboys believe Oda would make him stronger than Roger and Prime WB. That's like -10 reading comprehension.
@@abhishek.k7713 bro how big of a power up do you think he got by being dogwalked by an old dying man and staying at the office ever since? explain to me how he should scale to prime Roger & Whitebeard when he wasn't able to finish off a dying fuckin Kuma escaping mariejoie? I think I missed his big impressive power showings because Akainu glazers love to hype him up to pirate king level when Garp would honestly give him a solid run and Garp himself stated he gets massively weaker everyday and he's not sick like Newgate was
Whitebeard was so sick he had to be plugged on life support and needed Marco & nurses watching over him & still made him look soft so unless he got like 50x stronger he'd still need to jump WB 🤣
@@aanthonyy_ Luffy got 30 times stronger while fighting katakuri(this is not including his gears. If we did count it then it's much more)
Akainu fought aokiji for 10 days. Because their fruit cancel each other they both used their haki mire than their fruit and using haki in these fights let's you take it to the next level easily. If you don't have advanced your chances of learning it is incredible in these situations and those who already know it takes their haki to the next level with fights like these.
It is already shown kuznas raw striking strength (without covering it with any type of haki. Just bare hands)is equal to primes Garp's raw striking strength(not using haki either)new vivre card confirms kuzan has conquerors and he can coat his attacks in it and he also has advanced armament. We don't know if he has adv observation(future sight) but Kizaru does and it's given all admirals has both adv obs and adv arm but not counting arv obs for kuzan for the sake of it
But Akainu beat him. He beat someone with prime garps raw striking strength, old garp level haki(still yonko level haki)and one of the strongest devil fruit in the verse along with combat training from Garp. And after the fight they BOTH GOT EXTREMELY STRONGER. PROBABLY EVEN 50 TIMES STRONGER
The strongest pirate is the first ever pirate. The 'JOYBOY'. did you forget or didn't you follow at all in the first place!?😅
Right, strongest pirate was joy boy not Roger
Nothing would indicate joyboy was the strongest. He just was the biggest threat to the government due to other reasons
@@KizaruGlazers until we see gol d Roger’s haki do what joy boys did, he is still top 1
@@Mosaic-xerox nothing implies joyboys haki was anything special
@@KizaruGlazers 😂 you are a total 🤡 go to the circus. One haki wave was as big a the egg head island, De powered all the Gorosei, affected Imu all the way in the holy land. That’s top 1 haki
I'd say it's closer than most think only because we haven't seen an admiral go all out yet
You know why it's not close because you and I both know the Mad red dog doesn't stand a chance against the king of the Pirates. He killed. His son, so he's going to kill him.
Great video man🎉🎉🎉🎉
5:38 the fight start and roger disappeared
GOAT. D. Roger
Gol d fodder. Akainu SLAMS
@@Greenbull_goatget him past corpsebeard
@@atom4282old midbeard is so overrated in the anime.
Akainu literally slammed old midbeard in the manga lmfao. Manga >>> anime.
We’re now in endgame now and still saying akainu is an old midbeard victim until this day is just re****. Akainu folds old midbeard currently and it’s not close.
akainu is literally shanks level cry more oda said his saving akainu for luffy in the end oda glazes akainu and there's nothing you can do about he will defeat all your favourite characters and you will cry hard lol unless your going to argue with oda and he won't give a dam
@@SHADOWISTHEGOAT-e4v why tf are YOU crying lil bro? Oldbeard literally won that fight, sure akainu slams him rn considering he is an endgame villain but back in MF he cheap shotted oldbeard when he was having a heart attack so it's just fair that he also cheap shotted akainu in the . manga and yes, I do know that manga > anime when it comes to scaling. Where did Oda say that he cherishes akainu give me a source I'm not caught up with that.
@@SHADOWISTHEGOAT-e4v and stop glazing tf outta him he ain't all that. Y'all need to realize if he doesn't fight Luffy he ain't even stronger than shanks so zip it up when you are done lil bro.
This makes the fight sound high/extreme but take only like 5 mins.
Knowing Oda the fight would be a few days before what you described actually happens
The type of fights that you’re referencing are when characters are damn near equal. The fight I described is like a mid diff lol closer to shanks vs kid than akainu vs Kuzan or WB vs Roger
This whole video is incoherent brainrot to the point where it just sounds like ragebait. which it probably is since that generates comments and views
Garp's strength as stated by himself pre timeskip can't do half what it used to
And when he did Galaxy impact he said it himself
Strength nerfs also follow acoc nerfs since your acoc is as strong as your strength
And this Garp still did well against Kuzan
And Aokiji and Akainu fought for 10 days so him taking Aokiji's leg doesn't put him above g5 and sick heart attack wb
Not to mention Luffy didn't use acoc
Neither did wb too lol
And cornering Roger isn't by strength alone
And Whitebeard had statement from crocodile that this wasn't the monster that beat him and that was literally why he was trying to attack him
I mean imagine getting blitzed by SQUARD
And divine departure was a GREETING to test Oden(when people divide their strength into levels to see if their opps can withstand it)
Oden literally said they were far above him
This Oden was relative to Kaido
2:23 No it does not, pirate king is not a strength title. To be the wss all you have to do is just be stronger than the current wss. To be pirate king you need someone who can read the poneglyphs and actually need to find the poneglyphs also. Being the pirate king is harder because you have to do so much more. WSS is just being strong thats why its easier it doesn’t necessitate anything with strength
roger was never the strongest pirate, he was the greatest pirate because his greatest feat is finding the legendary treasure, roger has no record of beating any top tiers in 1vs1, even begging to world strongest pirate aka just to become pirate king
He never said that nor is that relevant. He said that Roger is considered the strongest throughout the community. And then he said Roger & WB were relative in strength. You don’t have to beat a top tier to be a top tier I don’t know why people use this argument. Whitebeard, Kaido, Shanks, Akainu, Garp, & etc have never had on record showings of them beating a top tier. But that doesn’t change the fact that they could or that they are a top tier.
And why is asking your friend to use his brother for something instead of just attacking him for it supposed to be an anti-feat.
@@Sinciece96
I swear to god you'll only see Akainu glazers using the argument of beating a top tier.
@@Sinciece96cap. Kaido defeated Luffy 4 times. Base Luffy with acoc is top tier lvl, since he was able to clean the sky in a acoc clash
@@Greenbull_goat So what. You’re acting like Luffy in Base is Roger level. He clearly isn’t a top tier when he lost to one 4 times. Luffy in Base is a Mid Tier. Splitting the sky was his first step to top tier.
Sky splitting doesn’t dictate Top Tier. The admirals can’t do that and they’d wash Base Luffy.
@@Sinciece96 base Luffy can give to roger a high diff fight. Gear 4 slams roger
I will never downplay papazuki for two reasons. One is being in an sbs oda said if akainu was the protagonist he would find the one piece in a year. Another reason is akainu has showed that he has so much drive and determination that I know his conquerors is gonna be crazy since all haki is, is will power
1:59 Overwhat!? 2:09 He literally said he was doing his best to stalemate Kizaru in that instant. 2:53 We using the movie for canon!?
@@millasboo yeah he overpowered Kuzan with blue hole I couldn’t display it tho,
@@millasboo Rayleigh never said this idk where you’re getting this from
@@millasboo the red hair pirates performance is said to be canon by oda himself cope
Sage do you do your art yourself?
Bro Akainu is stated to by Oda himself to be the strongest marine in history meaning that he surpasses garp and sengoku who were equal to WB and roger. So Akainu < Roger
A dying and sick Roger was on part with Prime White beard.
A dying and sick White beard was on part with Akainu Prime.
Akainu need to hold back a little to be on part with Mihawk.
This fight isn't even close, Old Garp after getting stabbed and being mentally nerfed was able to blitz and over power Kuzan (a near equal to akainu) as soon as Koby needed help. And Roger massively outscales an old very injured Garp who is holding back because Roger was on Prime Garp's level
garp was literally confirmed in his vire card that he wasn't holding back,he wasn't nerfed
Garp wasn't mentally nerfed what are you on about? Vivre card literally said he was going all out
Garp confirmed he was not holding back.
While Kuzan was the one holding back.
More fucking headcanon, garp wasn’t holding back, Kuzan was the one holding back, garp called him soft
Old garp was mentally nerfed? I've read enough, arguing with a Neanderthal like you is pointless
Sage, you missed the Xebec feat. Sonce Xebec was able to extreme diff a prime roger and garp, and seeing that the statement said that xebec was the most powerful adversary he has ever faced, its safe to say this puts roger over a prime WB, which scales him beyond the admirals and yonko.
vague statements which indicate nothing of individual power = definite powerscaling of individual fighters!!!
@@KizaruGlazers Roger's strongest adversary was Xebec and this was said in road to laughtale databook. If sengoku can be scaled by one statement to Roger's level I don't see the problem for the others.
@@atom4282 There is no statement or feat which puts roger above the admirals
@@KizaruGlazers drop one piece power scaling it ain't for you LOL
Oda likes Akainu alot ...
Believe or not he will make him the strongest marine in history.... His bounty just a begging
@@drakewalter8269 ah yes because everyone knows drakewalter8269 has met and spoke to oda 😭😂
@@sbthesage2100
Or you can just stay in your little dreams and make more videos like this as if you consider it as " fact" lmao.... I rly think no body care bro as a one piece fan i just wanna tell you 🤷
@@sbthesage2100 lol oda said he will cherish akainu keep coping
@@drakewalter8269 buddy akainu losing to sabo just accept it lmao
@@DaKing540
Ah ... We will see 😉🤫
Akainu stocks in every chapter after the war 📈📈
Roger is beating this bum ass mid difficulty at best Akainu
High-extreme
@proneetchowdhury2667 Hell no his bum ass is getting washed badly y'all need to stop glazing the admirals
Mid diff we saw what sick old whitebeard did to him this isn't even a debate with the current power scaling.
@@Azer-v6u exactly
@@Azer-v6ulow diff ,it's speed blitz and one shot attack
It is close tbh, high-extreme or maybe extreme diff
Did you know that every strongest Admiral (Fleet Admiral candidates at least) has a relationship/dynamic with every def. Strongest/own the era pirate(Not Pirate King or Yonko)? Kong-Xebec; Garp-Roger; SenGoku-WB; Akainu-Luffy; & Aokiji-BB. There’s a reason why Oda has introduced the concept of the world’s strongest; Mihawk & WB before the Yonko. Throughout the series it’s constantly been proven that the term Yonko itself doesn’t translate to Top 4 strongest pirates/characters in the show; it’s not a strength based title same with PK. The way we use “Yonko lvl” in the community really should be Fleet Admiral lvl; we need to fix this as a community. In short Akainu has a chance to be stronger than Roger; if the previous 1 out of the 2 strongest Marines(Garp) can almost kill him; why can’t this generation? He’s set up to fight PK Luffy.
Only 1 fleet admiral and multiple yonkos yonko level is the right word also akainu is not the end villain who said that
yall can hate all u want, sakazuki is glazed by oda himself, ch 1121 he is in final race,
Akainu victimizes Gol D. Fraudger (the same guy who ducked a fight with Big mom who’s main force were all children at the time) even tho big mom is strong asf
But he fought Primebeard?
the vivre card confirmed old garp was fighting with the same strength used to corner roger,and current akainu med diffs old garp
Said who? Old mentally nerfed garp was overpowering Kuzan, even though he was mentally nerfed, Kuzan is more or less close to akainu. Garp would extreme diff both their ass.
garp himslef said he gotten weaker and spoiler alert : oda wrote that pannel so i dunno
So you’re saying Garp was as strong as he was in his Prime but also say Akainu mid diffs Garp because he’s old. Making your argument contradictory and meaningless. Also no he doesn’t. Kuzan while mentally nerfed High Diffs a weakened Garp with low stamina.
@@shreeniket0661garp was not mentally nerfed he literally told kuzan not to live in the past and not to waver
@@shreeniket0661 read the vivre card
Roger high diff max
Akainu mid diff max
What Roger will intentionally take hit are you nut Roger had advance conqueror and advance observation haki he can dodge punch easily 😂
roger wins extreme diff
on EVERYONES SOUL my glorious magma king will pull off some insane feats
They aren’t ready for HIM !!!🌋😂
@@sbthesage2100old joyboy neg diff roger+akainu 😅
Akainu will definitely be one of the top strongest at the end of one piece and could possibly have coc and logia awakening at the final war ark
Dude is caping
First Mihawk’s statement about Luffy’s goal being more difficult to achieve has nothing to do power or scaling, Whitebeard had no such dreams but still he was an equal to Roger, strength has nothing to do with it. I’m not saying Mihawk is stronger by any chance. As we don’t know anything about that but we should consider that even before Shanks reached his prime or before becoming an emperor, his duels with Hawkeyes were considered legendary by Whitebeard himself, that is probably before them reaching their prime. Shanks and Mihawk are stated to have the strongest rivalry in history. Is that enough to prove that they had surpassed the previous generation ? No because Whitebeard was stated to be strongest man in the world and Shanks agreed with that when Ace said he wanna bring the strongest man down. This statement obviously refers to a more healthy Whitebeard. But from what we know of haki Aokiji and Akainu must have gotten stronger during their 10 day fight because the more you use haki the stronger it becomes, we have seen Luffy getting an greater than his gear 4th from his haki getting stronger. If pre time skip Akainu could blow half of Whitebeard’s face with one punch hate to see what post time skip Akainu can do and the Whitebeard had a mental amp against Akainu while Akainu was kinda of telling Whitebeard that his time has passed and kinda underestimating him. Roger might win but “ it is not close” is straight cap
I don't agree with the idea of their Haki getting stronger even if it did only kuzans haki might have gotten stronger because he is following his dreams now and their fight was mostly based on df powers that's why punk hazard became half lava half ice. If sick old injured white beard would put up a fight against akainu then i would hate to see what prime wb or Roger would do to him
@@Azer-v6u Your not even refuting his claim with contradictions so your claim can be dismissed
Akainu is literally working on his dream of eliminating all pirates step by step and how does following his dreams now connect to haki blooming?
There's not a connection between not using haki and both of them turning Punk Hazard into half ice and half lava, they can still use haki while doing all that
A holding back MARINEFORD Akainu was able to low diff at max a bloodlusted WB, and we know rage amps power in One Piece as they will not hold back and use all of there powers against you
You now are just molding the words I said to your will because i never said any of these statements that is nothing but delusion or an inability to process basic english.
To start with I never said akainus haki was weak. I just said kuzans haki got stronger because akainu was already following his dreams and kuzan wasn't.
Even worse i never said they didn't use haki in punk hazard? I just said it was mostly a df based fight and it actually was. We saw the fight between kuzan and garp and the island wouldn't turn half ice even in 10 days.
You also claim akainu low diffed wb in marine ford. Even though that's doesn't even come close to to being true, wb at that time was old sick and injured fatally so even counting this imaginary instance of yours it wouldn't add up to anything.
Here I left worse for last because you are speaking nonsense here. When in the world did rage in one piece happen? Did you even watch the show? Because honestly if you did that would be worse than not watching it and saying that. we all so what luffy did when his brother died he just collapsed this isn't naruto kid.
All I said was right and i countered every word you said and that was easy tbh you were saying nonsense anyway. And I am pretty sure you didn't even watch the show at all or read the manga. And you probably won't even reply
I never said any of the things you claim i did.
I never said akainus haki is weak i said aokijis hakis got stronger because only after leaving marines that he started following his dreams
I also never said they didn't uses Haki in their fight i said it was mostly df power because that's and that's thebonly way they transform w whole island we saw garp and aokijis fight if that fight lasted 10 days the island wouldn't have transformed half ice.
Lastly you are really retarded.
If you actually watched one piece akainu didn't hold back??????? And couldn't kill a sick old fatally injured man and you said rage makes you stronger!?!!!!!!????? The whole show proves rage does nothing luffy collapsed when ace died I can't defend you buddy I really hope you're lying and you didn't watch one piece. You are really just yapping at this point. Every point you said I countered not proud though cause you made no points ...
@@itznub69 you're right about haki bloom but akainu wasn't holding back in marineford? Where is your proof for that? He literally has no reason to hold back. His objective was to finish off WB so if he held his AP back that wouldn't make sense but at the same time he would have to make sure that he doesn't destroy the island so holding his DC back is logical. And no, it wasn't a low diff fight more of a high diff fight for akainu.
Bro this matchup isn't even a question, Roger stomps. It is super obvious.if the fight is more intense the video would be more successful
Just say you're not ready for Him 🌋🌋 its okay
Akainu ( Strongest Marine in History) > Prine Roger and Garp in 1v1
Bro eats poop for breakfast
That shit is fake lil bro
Roger low diffs.This aint akainu slander tho,the rat and crydo get slammed mid diff too
Roger is fodder overrated. Any yonko slams roger. Kaido one taps Loger with death destroyer thunder bagua or flame dragon. Oden took no damage from kamusari
Roger High Diff.
Factual
Not here to say who wons but
The old gen are been glaze alot still and the admirals all of a suddenly has alot of d riders so no matter which side u say wins going to jave glazers
Akainu≈Roger>Pre timeskip Akainu
Akainu slams stop overrating Roger
Sakazuking goatainu ez
What are you on about, by the time luffy fights Akainu, luffy would've long surpassed roger and the old gen and began reaching to the joyboy terriotry of strength. This argument is just based on characters feats, and not accounting their narrative in the future, at most Roger's ceiling is Primebeard who severely held back during their clashes.
And thinking Roger's conq would scare Akainu or insinuating that it would be similar to Gb reacting to shanks haki is straight up ludicrous as Kizaru casually negated that Haki joyboy unleashed (his most powerful conq haki) and walked to pick up the call whilst the vice admirals were knocked out.
Ain't no way we saw roger is on wb same level and unjured sick old white beard would extreme diff akainu in a 1 v 1.
@@Azer-v6u Your completely misninformed, and it seems like you've already made your judgement on who wins without having an open mind.
Just remember this interaction when Oda fleshes out akainu and shows us why he's above the old gen.
@@StudentOfTG
because joyboy haki was only effeting enemies and kizaru was mentally nerf so joyboy haki didn't detect him as enemy which is why it didn't effect him at all and btw the gorosei were fine after tanking conqeuror haki as it just only negate their ability but they were fine even saturn was fine
I am not disinformed and I am ready to accept any idea perhaps you are the delusional one here
Ok I will remember this. Akainu is not even the main antagonist in the story for now and you counting on hopes while ignoring the raw data you have is nothing short of delusional. Akainus close fight against kuzan gives us a peak into his actual power level also relying mostly on df powers in a world where the strongest creature kaido said that haki is more important in strength makes akainus power level clear and we can see emphasis on akainus df in the vivre card and all his fights. And worde kuzan with good Haki and almost useless df against akainu put up a good fight against him.
Get Akainu past ACoC Big Mom tbh
Big mom slams roger so i dont know what is your point
Hahaha utter brainrot scaling assuming that every single possible interaction with the admirals is them going all out and the other side not.
Trying to be the pirate king is more dangerous than trying to be the worlds strongest swordsman = stronger!!!
sickbeard and shanks do a random sword clash where neither side is tryharding = shanks antifeat!!
Roger mauls Akainu
Joy boy negg diff all of them
roger one shot
Oda cherishes Akainu, Oda would have Akainu defeat Roger in mid diff.
@@GarpDChump “oda cherishes akainu” literally never stated anywhere 😭 and even if it was ur dosent mean he beats everyone in a fight
@@sbthesage2100 oda stated it in a interview.
@@sbthesage2100old joyboy>>>>>>>>>>>>roger prime>>>>>>>>>>>akainu
@@GarpDChump give me a source for this.
@@mohamedaminmahamoud7095 more like joyboy > Roger
Roger > Akainu.
1. WB is the strongest pirate in history, not Roger.
2. Roger one taps Akainu.
Joy boy negg diff all of them
@@Vaxxx9fax
Roger is the strongest pirate in old gen*
Joyboy is the strongest pirate in history*
@ wrong rocks d xebec is strongest pirate in old gen
@@veermcnair8041 it is implied that Roger defeated rocks in a 1 on 1 so I'll stick with my opinion.
Most of these people in the comments section have reading comprehension issues dude. If you genuinely think Rodger loses to any of the admirals. Great video man🎉🎉🎉🎉
Have this chat forgotten that akainu has olny won because whitebeard had terminal fucking cqncer and has been severely wounded by over 100 cuts and over 50 shots through,akainu is not winning against THE KING OF THE FUCKING PIRATES.
The title is irrelevant akainu has better feats than Roger statements portrayal and narrative can go either way. Akainu edges out Extreme diff
@@Akagami314 how like your telling me he has so many feats that are greater and more than rogers,explain how he the person who legit killed a person who was getting 1 vs 100+
@alexdeng1213 Whenever Akainu and whitebeard fought it was a 1 on 1 with no interferences. It's irrelevant that wb fought a bunch of people because it's mostly marine fodder yes Akainu has better overall feats than roger
@@Akagami314 jesus h christ what feats has akainu achieved that are greater than rogers?
@alexdeng1213 Better Stamina, Durability and endurance feats. Better attack power with his df plus advanced armament at minimum (at most he has his df plus acoc but that's not confirmed yet).
akainu high diffs
No
Akainu high diff
Akainu melts him high diff lmao turns him into oven roast
🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢
Get him past oldbeard with stage 50 cancer and heart attack.
Most intelligent admiral agenda poster
@@ndibunwapeter9013 he did get past WB, blow half his head off, filled him with magma. WB suckered punched Akinu and next chapter was fighting WB commanders and they got scared and retreated. WB couldnt defeat Akainu head to head and his sucker punch did no to little damage to him.
Of course. Oda cherishes Sakazuki.
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