Κωνσταντίνε, εάν κατά την φάση που το 415 γεμίζει, υπάρξει πρόβλημα στους κινητήρες: α) Μπορεί να αδειάσει με κάποιο άλλο τρόπο το νερό που έχει πάρει με σβηστές μηχανές; β) Το κρατούν στην επιφάνεια οι πλωτήρες και η άτρακτός ή βουλιάζει; γ) Οι καταπακτές που ανοίγουν για να φουλάρει νερό ή μετά για να το αδειάσει πάνω από τη φωτιά, δουλεύουν μηχανικά ή ηλεκτρικά/υδραυλικά; Η λειτουργία τους εξαρτάται από την λειτουργία των κινητήρων ή από άλλο ανεξάρτητο (υπο)σύστημα;
Bunker, I have a doubt about bad Scooper pilot, I watched them 2 weeks ago in Europe in Croatia, these guys are magicians in the air, and I wish them all the best
Archie, Ordinarily yes. However this breed of pilot make decisions to fly to protect and to preserve. Where I am from they put restrictions on the pilots to prevent them from having the ability to make those decisions. in 2003, there was a small fire close to my home. There was a restriction in place that had a cutoff time of 1/2 hour before sunset that prevented helicopters already on scene to make water drops. That fire grew to 280k sq acres, burned 2800 homes and killed 15 people because of that rule. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cedar_Fire_(2003)
@Archie Bunker Well, because of their kind of job, Canadair pilots must learn to fly under conditions other pilots should learn to avoid; namely the turbulences caused by forest fires. Then, if weather conditions were that bad so as to fly, I seriously doubt that it was the crew´s own decision to risk it that pointlessly, as if they were Americans in a Hollywood movie boasting on their iron balls and such. I bet that they just obbeyed orders from their superiors to fly and do this and that. Or else it could have been that bad weather caught them suddely in flight and they had no chance to escape. In other words, it was probably not the crew's decision to risk their lives so pointlessly.
best wishes to the crew...speedy recovery.
Thank you very much JPB!!!
Κωνσταντίνε, εάν κατά την φάση που το 415 γεμίζει, υπάρξει πρόβλημα στους κινητήρες:
α) Μπορεί να αδειάσει με κάποιο άλλο τρόπο το νερό που έχει πάρει με σβηστές μηχανές;
β) Το κρατούν στην επιφάνεια οι πλωτήρες και η άτρακτός ή βουλιάζει;
γ) Οι καταπακτές που ανοίγουν για να φουλάρει νερό ή μετά για να το αδειάσει πάνω από τη φωτιά, δουλεύουν μηχανικά ή ηλεκτρικά/υδραυλικά; Η λειτουργία τους εξαρτάται από την λειτουργία των κινητήρων ή από άλλο ανεξάρτητο (υπο)σύστημα;
@@kitsune1940 Το νερό δεν δημιουργεί προβλημα πλεύσης, πλέει κανονικά
Πολύ ωραίο το βιντεάκι Κώστα.
Musique du film :« là mémoire dans la peau !»
Where did this happen?????
Greece Thessaloniki at a place called Aggelohori.
no wings, bottom of fuselage ripped open.........what's left to salvage?
Unfortunately I believe nothing useful!
how crew goes??
Fortunately the pilots are alive. One with broken leg and the other was in shock!
@@konstantinostumb better than dead .
Wings and engines are missing?
What happened? That looks like a heavy crash. And above all, what about the crew? Did they make it?
Alan the leopard pilots was training in very bad weather situations,fortunately they are alive!
που και ποτε εγινε αυτο?
Αυτο εγινε στο Αγγελοχωρι Θεσσαλονικης πριν απο περιπου 2 χρονια.
We build these beasts in North Bay and they are beaten to death 💀
where are wings
Buy new ones, what the big deal!
telosfd I hope someday to buy many of this!!!
415 is new version .
these plane are not even made anymore where canceled by Bombardier
Jonathan Giroux maybe you are right but they are still doing great work!
Viking Air owns the certificate now.
They are starting with new version CL 515 and possibly starting reproductions of 415 due to high interest .
Bad Pilot ?
+Bobilator Realitywall No, this had happen because of extremely bad weather!
Bunker, I have a doubt about bad Scooper pilot, I watched them 2 weeks ago in Europe in Croatia, these guys are magicians in the air, and I wish them all the best
Archie,
Ordinarily yes. However this breed of pilot make decisions to fly to protect and to preserve. Where I am from they put restrictions on the pilots to prevent them from having the ability to make those decisions. in 2003, there was a small fire close to my home. There was a restriction in place that had a cutoff time of 1/2 hour before sunset that prevented helicopters already on scene to make water drops. That fire grew to 280k sq acres, burned 2800 homes and killed 15 people because of that rule.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cedar_Fire_(2003)
Of course it was a wrong estimation of the crew during a training mission
@Archie Bunker Well, because of their kind of job, Canadair pilots must learn to fly under conditions other pilots should learn to avoid; namely the turbulences caused by forest fires.
Then, if weather conditions were that bad so as to fly, I seriously doubt that it was the crew´s own decision to risk it that pointlessly, as if they were Americans in a Hollywood movie boasting on their iron balls and such. I bet that they just obbeyed orders from their superiors to fly and do this and that. Or else it could have been that bad weather caught them suddely in flight and they had no chance to escape. In other words, it was probably not the crew's decision to risk their lives so pointlessly.