I 100% agree with you! I am a role player first, it just so happens that I can do good my part to make the damage dealers happy when combat comes around.
I am very glad to hear that. I really enjoy playing the character first. It’s partly why I don’t play one shots. I just don’t want to waste the character. Or at least that’s how I feel. I find that it’s not really all that hard to be good at combat. Especially with casters, you just kinda need to do your homework. So glad to see another role player first!
@@TheSinisterheroes I took the Shadow Touched feat for Invisibility. I use Nimble Climber + Invisibility (Active Camouflage) + Manta Glide as the perfect infiltrator
@TheSinisterheroes actually, I haven't had a need to. I have had to climb to.the roof of a church to dispatch an assassin. I'm building a Swarm Lord/ Pestilence pc
I can agree with that. It would be cool to have that to coincide. I think the underdark gets chosen a lot for that very reason. Personally I like the Druid spell list, but most people find it difficult because of the larger amount of concentration spells.
They are really underrated. They have a lot of cool tricks and the spells are awesome. It just takes a little bit to fully understand them, as you kinda need to read a lot. I didn’t realize how great they are until I played my first one and was blown away.
It’s a difficult subclass to evaluate. It functions as basiclly as a standard full caster with not much more than an expanded spell list. The ability to really hit home with a theme, or PC concept is absolutely there. Personally, I think it lends itself well to a multi-class dip, or vice versa. Outside of that, it might be harder to play than most Druids for players that haven’t used the class before. Experience in what the class strengths, abilities, and weaknesses counts for a lot.
I absolutely agree the Druid as a normal class gets significantly better with some experience. You are definitely right. You’re also correct about it being difficult as a subclass. I think the difficulty falls along two levels. First being what is the purpose of wild shape. Comparing to how other subclasses wildshape takes on a clear role. Though with this subclass one of the defining features of the Druid must be re defined. So that you can make great use of it, as well as it not just falling behind and being forgotten. The second one for me is the learning of the spells for Druids and the domain spells. Learning spells for a new player can be difficult as it is. Keeping track of what spell dose what can be hard on any experience level, this is especially true when the spells in question are not regularly used. On top of that your are now mitigating a plethora of spells already in prepared, not counting you can switch your spells daily. There are a lot of spinning plates with complexity the Druid. I find the Druid really rewarding to play. The difficulty I actually like. Gotta say you voice your opinion really well. Your analysis clearly shows you have experience and a good understanding. Well written!
@@TheSinisterheroes you made a good point about the wild shape feature. It’s role for a land Druid is very open ended. I guess undefined is also the right term. Maybe this subclass could have an upgrade in its next version with combining the wild shape (or use of the optional find familiar feature) for some kind of limited spell casting. Although I’m not very happy with the Druid revisions for the upcoming PHB release, they had a few ideas that were not horrible. I did actually really like the ability to shift back into caster form, and then return to wild shape. This is one of my favorite classes to play, and anytime it can get some positive press, I’m all for it.
In my opinion the druid is the class you use for a Hag inspired character and the circle of the Land is the blanket subclass that covers most Hags while the spores druid is more of the Death meddling kind and Dreams is the Night hag type to me the druid is the easiest to make a Hag themed character the potential of that is just too good to pass up if that's what you are looking for this is the least favorite subclass for the druid but it is a good subclass it's the most basic druid in my opinion
Oh yeah I definitely agree with that they have a bunch of cool spells that would fit into that kinda evil witch in the woods vibe. They also were looked down upon for a long time in ancient times cus a lot of cultures considered forests to be evil and dangerous places.
I love the Grassland Druid for the bonus spell slots upon rest, and the bonus spells for free, such as pass without trace and invisibility. DSSorc12/LifeCleric4/GrassDruid4 gives plenty of spell versatility for prep time support Batman. I imagine they would be a Traveling Inn Owner, focused on creating a rest for the weary style inn. Jovial, bright place, accents are nature meets merchant. Plenty of space for eating, moderate rest accommodations. Has an emergency room ready with various glyphs of wards that have several healing spells ready such as beacon of hope, Aura, Bless, Aid.
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I 100% agree with you! I am a role player first, it just so happens that I can do good my part to make the damage dealers happy when combat comes around.
I am very glad to hear that. I really enjoy playing the character first. It’s partly why I don’t play one shots. I just don’t want to waste the character. Or at least that’s how I feel.
I find that it’s not really all that hard to be good at combat. Especially with casters, you just kinda need to do your homework.
So glad to see another role player first!
I'm playing a Simic Hybrid Under Dark Land Druid in my current campaign. It feels like a better Arcane Trickster Rogue and I love it
Ooooo are you using your wild shape to be stealthy? How do you play them?
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I took the Shadow Touched feat for Invisibility. I use Nimble Climber + Invisibility (Active Camouflage) + Manta Glide as the perfect infiltrator
I never would have throught of that. Have you considered wildshape into like a tiny spider, or something like that.
@TheSinisterheroes actually, I haven't had a need to. I have had to climb to.the roof of a church to dispatch an assassin. I'm building a Swarm Lord/ Pestilence pc
I don't mind this one. Do wish most of the spell's learnt were a lot more like Underdark's where most were not avaliable to Druid Spells, like Web.
I can agree with that. It would be cool to have that to coincide. I think the underdark gets chosen a lot for that very reason. Personally I like the Druid spell list, but most people find it difficult because of the larger amount of concentration spells.
My favorite class after fighters. There are really endless things you can do with them.
They are really underrated. They have a lot of cool tricks and the spells are awesome. It just takes a little bit to fully understand them, as you kinda need to read a lot. I didn’t realize how great they are until I played my first one and was blown away.
It’s a difficult subclass to evaluate. It functions as basiclly as a standard full caster with not much more than an expanded spell list.
The ability to really hit home with a theme, or PC concept is absolutely there.
Personally, I think it lends itself well to a multi-class dip, or vice versa.
Outside of that, it might be harder to play than most Druids for players that haven’t used the class before.
Experience in what the class strengths, abilities, and weaknesses counts for a lot.
I absolutely agree the Druid as a normal class gets significantly better with some experience. You are definitely right.
You’re also correct about it being difficult as a subclass. I think the difficulty falls along two levels. First being what is the purpose of wild shape. Comparing to how other subclasses wildshape takes on a clear role. Though with this subclass one of the defining features of the Druid must be re defined. So that you can make great use of it, as well as it not just falling behind and being forgotten. The second one for me is the learning of the spells for Druids and the domain spells. Learning spells for a new player can be difficult as it is. Keeping track of what spell dose what can be hard on any experience level, this is especially true when the spells in question are not regularly used. On top of that your are now mitigating a plethora of spells already in prepared, not counting you can switch your spells daily.
There are a lot of spinning plates with complexity the Druid. I find the Druid really rewarding to play. The difficulty I actually like.
Gotta say you voice your opinion really well. Your analysis clearly shows you have experience and a good understanding. Well written!
@@TheSinisterheroes you made a good point about the wild shape feature. It’s role for a land Druid is very open ended. I guess undefined is also the right term.
Maybe this subclass could have an upgrade in its next version with combining the wild shape (or use of the optional find familiar feature) for some kind of limited spell casting.
Although I’m not very happy with the Druid revisions for the upcoming PHB release, they had a few ideas that were not horrible. I did actually really like the ability to shift back into caster form, and then return to wild shape.
This is one of my favorite classes to play, and anytime it can get some positive press, I’m all for it.
In my opinion the druid is the class you use for a Hag inspired character and the circle of the Land is the blanket subclass that covers most Hags while the spores druid is more of the Death meddling kind and Dreams is the Night hag type to me the druid is the easiest to make a Hag themed character the potential of that is just too good to pass up if that's what you are looking for this is the least favorite subclass for the druid but it is a good subclass it's the most basic druid in my opinion
Oh yeah I definitely agree with that they have a bunch of cool spells that would fit into that kinda evil witch in the woods vibe. They also were looked down upon for a long time in ancient times cus a lot of cultures considered forests to be evil and dangerous places.
I love the Grassland Druid for the bonus spell slots upon rest, and the bonus spells for free, such as pass without trace and invisibility. DSSorc12/LifeCleric4/GrassDruid4 gives plenty of spell versatility for prep time support Batman. I imagine they would be a Traveling Inn Owner, focused on creating a rest for the weary style inn. Jovial, bright place, accents are nature meets merchant. Plenty of space for eating, moderate rest accommodations. Has an emergency room ready with various glyphs of wards that have several healing spells ready such as beacon of hope, Aura, Bless, Aid.
An entrepreneur at heart! Thats a great reason to use the guild member background which is cool.