Just found your first video on repairing the squealing on a postwar locomotive. Easy to follow and what you demonstrated worked perfectly for the first couple of engines I repaired. Just found this video as have similar issues with a bunch of tenders. Again video easy to follow and hope for the same results as the locomotives when I work on the tenders this weekend Thanks for taking the time to post
nice production; especially in the e-unit dismantling/re-construction. seen together, the steps to take apart made more sense when seen in reverse. overall naration was well detailed. the incidental comments gave a doer's experience to the viewer. thank you.
Thanks for watching, Brian. My favorite sounding whistle tenders are the pre war and early postwar models with the cast metal whistle chambers instead of the plastic. They are a bit louder and slightly different tone.
@@elroySF The things Lionel designers and engineers came up with to make these realistic blows my mind. The smoke units are another system I think was genius for its time.
New to your channel. I just received a 2036 engine and tender . I watched both of your videos and I feel confident I can do this . being a heavy duty truck mechanic I have to worried about my fat fingers breaking a wire connection. Thanks
How do you run the wires from your transformer to the tracking to make the train whistle? I have that attachment on the transformer or you can make it whistle how do you do the wiring to make it?
Yes the armature shaft does need a tiny bit of lube. Not so much that it gets on the copper bits of the armature itself. There should also be a small washer/bushing at the base of the shaft. I often take that off, oil it, wipe off the excess then put it back on. The chatter sounds like something is out of alignment, a broken blade, or something else obstructing the impeller.
Another great and useful video! I have a whistling tinder (6466) that doesn't whistle. Every is cleaned and spins as it should. I can manually blow into the whistle box and it will whistle. Any suggestions?
Hmm. There are some folks that noticed the armature spinning the wrong way, and that has caused the whistle not to work. There are schematics online where you can check the wiring to make sure its hooked up and spinning correctly. Or if the pickup rollers are shot, they might not be getting enough power to the motor to spin it fast enough.
Hey James, thanks for watching. That sounds like there's a short somewhere that's activating the relay which runs the whistle. Or the bottom tab on your relay is bent upwards meaning it's always making contact and running the whistle.
Thanks for getting back to me. The contacts aren't touching. I can disconnect the power wire from the two coming in from the rollers and it stiff keeps whistling. I then disconnected the wire on other side and it stops. I agree with you it is grounded somewhere but I can't figure it out. Should be simple.@@warrenmuzakpostwarguy4331
If the contacts aren't touching and the whistle motor is spinning, power is going directly to the whistle motor bypassing the relay altogether. Yet, you are saying you disconnect the wires from the rollers and it still get power? While its on the track? Im not sure how its doing that. @@JamesSmith-om4lk
I figured it out!! Wire coming from the whistle to the relay was soldered on the ground side and not the second post of the switch. While in there I followed all your cleaning up of rotor and whistle. Had already done the trucks and the middle rail roller. while at it I did 4 more of the cars trucks. Really appreciate your time and ground suggestion really helped. Getting ready for grand kids on Christmas. Dad gave me my set around 1951 0r 1952. That is the engine and tender from that era!.@@warrenmuzakpostwarguy4331
Just found your first video on repairing the squealing on a postwar locomotive. Easy to follow and what you demonstrated worked perfectly for the first couple of engines I repaired. Just found this video as have similar issues with a bunch of tenders. Again video easy to follow and hope for the same results as the locomotives when I work on the tenders this weekend Thanks for taking the time to post
Thanks for watching and I am glad you found these helpful!
nice production; especially in the e-unit dismantling/re-construction. seen together, the steps to take apart made more sense when seen in reverse. overall naration was well detailed. the incidental comments gave a doer's experience to the viewer.
thank you.
Thanks Mike I appreciate that!
Another extremely thorough video! Perfect for me as I'm currently looking for a used whistle tender for my old postwar loco.
Thanks for watching, Brian. My favorite sounding whistle tenders are the pre war and early postwar models with the cast metal whistle chambers instead of the plastic. They are a bit louder and slightly different tone.
@@warrenmuzakpostwarguy4331 They are kind of fascinating. How is such a perfectly replicated sound being generated with such old tech?
@@elroySF The things Lionel designers and engineers came up with to make these realistic blows my mind. The smoke units are another system I think was genius for its time.
New to your channel. I just received a 2036 engine and tender . I watched both of your videos and I feel confident I can do this . being a heavy duty truck mechanic I have to worried about my fat fingers breaking a wire connection. Thanks
Thanks for the relay take down!
Thanks Warren! Great video!!!!
Thank you for watching! I hope it was helpful.
How do you run the wires from your transformer to the tracking to make the train whistle? I have that attachment on the transformer or you can make it whistle how do you do the wiring to make it?
I'm wondering why you put grease on the wheel hole. I've never seen the wheels roll independently of the axles? 🤔
Hi Warren! Does any part of the armature shaft ever need lube? My tender sounds sorta dry with a slight chatter sound.
Yes the armature shaft does need a tiny bit of lube. Not so much that it gets on the copper bits of the armature itself. There should also be a small washer/bushing at the base of the shaft. I often take that off, oil it, wipe off the excess then put it back on.
The chatter sounds like something is out of alignment, a broken blade, or something else obstructing the impeller.
What gauge wire would you use that is connected to the trucks ?
I use 22ga. stranded. Not solid. Stranded wire allows for more flexibility and less likely to break at the solder joints after lots of use.
Another great and useful video! I have a whistling tinder (6466) that doesn't whistle. Every is cleaned and spins as it should. I can manually blow into the whistle box and it will whistle. Any suggestions?
Hmm. There are some folks that noticed the armature spinning the wrong way, and that has caused the whistle not to work. There are schematics online where you can check the wiring to make sure its hooked up and spinning correctly.
Or if the pickup rollers are shot, they might not be getting enough power to the motor to spin it fast enough.
@@warrenmuzakpostwarguy4331 Thanks for the help!
Have tender from 671 engine. It whistles all the time even with switch open. My wiring must be wrong but thought I followed your video. Stumpted!
Hey James, thanks for watching. That sounds like there's a short somewhere that's activating the relay which runs the whistle. Or the bottom tab on your relay is bent upwards meaning it's always making contact and running the whistle.
Thanks for getting back to me. The contacts aren't touching. I can disconnect the power wire from the two coming in from the rollers and it stiff keeps whistling. I then disconnected the wire on other side and it stops. I agree with you it is grounded somewhere but I can't figure it out. Should be simple.@@warrenmuzakpostwarguy4331
If the contacts aren't touching and the whistle motor is spinning, power is going directly to the whistle motor bypassing the relay altogether. Yet, you are saying you disconnect the wires from the rollers and it still get power? While its on the track? Im not sure how its doing that. @@JamesSmith-om4lk
I figured it out!! Wire coming from the whistle to the relay was soldered on the ground side and not the second post of the switch. While in there I followed all your cleaning up of rotor and whistle. Had already done the trucks and the middle rail roller. while at it I did 4 more of the cars trucks. Really appreciate your time and ground suggestion really helped. Getting ready for grand kids on Christmas. Dad gave me my set around 1951 0r 1952. That is the engine and tender from that era!.@@warrenmuzakpostwarguy4331
Need help on Lionel coal tender day won’t whistles need somatic Erie 2934
Hi Richard. Unfortunately I don't have any modern era Lionel trains so I have no knowledge on how to fix that one.
Bonjour un débutant va essayer de faire bien