The (Other) Seven Wonders of the Ancient World
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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:04 The Labyrinth of Egypt
2:34 The Temple of Zeus at Cyzicus
3:37 The Sewers of Rome
5:00 The Theater of Scaurus
6:37 Masterworks
8:15 The Altar of Horns at Delos
9:17 The Walls of Babylon
10:27 Yes, the Colosseum
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Shame so much of the Ancient World was destroyed.
We stand on the shoulders of giants…. Wonder where that phrase originated.
The fact that THAT is an understatement makes me immensely sad. Honestly, I think about that a lot.
Literally
Our entire modern civilization will be a tiny layer in the geologic record one day. The sun will encompass the earth in the far flung future. Even further out the sun will have its demise as well.
Think about what has been destroyed in Asia, Africa and America by European colonists…
The toldin is my favorite type of stone. Sturdy, robust, and colorful.
In mythos, it was the preferred material upon which the gods laid the foundation of epics.
I heard his voice when I read it.
D@mn it, man!
You got me.
If you thought you'd snag anyone, it worked just like ya planned.
Yep.
In the search.
Well player, sir!
toldins is my favorite tone of voice, clear, relaxing, and interesting
Ever since I was a boy in school, I've thought that we don't give our ancestors enough credit for what they accomplished. Every time I look back into history, I notice how similar their world was to the one we live in today.
There is no difference in human from now to 50,000 years ago *except* we are literally dumber (IQ collapse of last 100 years, accelerated the last 20).
I get pushback from ignorant idiots unaware of the facts. Yes, we, are stupid. Your grandma's 5th grade podunk school's curriculum was FAR more advanced. You all learn 3 grades behind. Jesus Christ try finding a random person that knows how to spell 'receipts'!
@@Vicus_of_Utrecht completely false
@@Vicus_of_Utrecht the difference is that we go to 13 years of mandatory schooling as a child (atleast in the US)
Sorry, but the ancient world, hell even the world of 100 years ago, are nothing like ours today. NOTHING we’ve built in the last 80 years will survive 100 years let alone 1000.
Torn down for building materials. Understandable, but still hurts the heart every time I hear something like that about an ancient wonder.
I'm glad someone finally acknowledged the Labyrinth in Hawara
You’re truely a gem on TH-cam. You’re the first TH-cam channel I’ve come upon that does documentary quality research on smaller topics regarding Ancient Rome. Please, never stop!
People getting together to do anything is a wonder
Dr. G! I was thinking you really should do another book - focusing on Roman architecture, building techniques and public projects. I have the title for you too, free to use as you wish: "The Wrong End of the Stick, Collapsed Arches and a Cloaca to Die For".
I loved his book, and I would absolutely love a book on Roman architecture.
Not only would I read that, but it's a banger of a book title as well.
9:18 I don't think he exaggerated since what is discovered so far was what just survived. The city was so old and and had been re built up through the ages until its ruins were re used and re used for other cities and towns.
The Parthenon to ancient writers, "What am I, chopped liver?"
Your videos are always amazing. I'm glad to see you thriving on this platform, and I can't wait to get around to finishing your book. :)
Just finished reading your book, I thoroughly enjoyed it.
If I recall correctly, some ancient authors considered Temple of Poseidon at Cape Sounio, a massive, sea-facing temple in Attica, as a magnificent wonder as well.
Always worth to watch every second of your videos. Thank you for such a great work!
Just finished reading your book, I thoroughly enjoyed it.. The toldin is my favorite type of stone. Sturdy, robust, and colorful..
Another unique subject that taught me a lot. Awesome. I always wish I could upvote you twice.
A new toldinstone video? Ooolh thank you thank you thank you
Yeah I hated doing that and was pretty damn upset with Octavian for making me do it, I mean hell it was his idea so why didn't he do it?
I get no respect...
Always great knowledge and video's. Thank you😘
Would also be interesting to do a separate one focusing on the "wonders of the medieval world" (e.g., Constantinople, Venice, Taj Mahal, etc.).
Well, the Taj Mahal dates back to the 17th century… "medieval world" is not going to works…
Indian architecture is more than just Taj mahal.
YOU are our wonder of the world, mr toldinstone
What a killer topic! This is my favorite type of Told In Stone video!!!
Another wonder that could have been added to the list was the tomb of the Etruscan king Porsenna in the city of Clusium (Called Chiusi today.) According to Pliny (I think) it was a largely underground structure of huge dimensions -some parts are still visible today apparently.
I too got some more lesser known, wonder worthy buildings: The harbour of Carthage, the long walls of Athens and the Diolkos of Corinth.
Omg Prof you’re the reason I’m not getting anything done 🙄 it’s impossible to watch only one episode.
I recently retired from teaching (Art History) so my heart leapt at the inclusion of the Colosseum. Impossible not to spend a week on this in class! 🥰
I often mention your Toldinstone - you’d be surprised how often I hear “there’s nothing on cable!” True enough, so, listen in to Garrett!
(I’m still much enamored of the long Footnotes format tho, the Adrian Goldsworthy and Prof Kaldellis ones were over the top; you’re a rare interviewer, you make your guest comfortable and they respond beautifully)
(I know you’re Classical age but would you consider hosting Marc Morris? Surely there are many intersections between the early Welsh and the Roman ‘visitors’ who dropped by with Caesar! )
He’s got the perfect format. 10 minute videos so it doesn’t feel like you’re spending a long time learning, and then next thing you know you’ve watched an hour and a half!
But I like the longer format!! Especially the interviews with authors I’ve been tempted to read (but NO time) (and NOT my area blah blah blah) his book just came in as did the Kaldellis one (on Byzantine Curiosities, hey I’m a sucker for a byline where Hegel and Voltaire both despise this culture!) but I admit, I prefer to hear Garrett’s voice, his sly sense of humour cracks me up!
Wonderful stuff!
I want a video about Ancient Gardens
Like the Garden Wonders of Ancient History AND Ancient Myth/Legend
Starting with of course the Babylon Hanging Gardens
There something about classical Roman and Greek architecture, the proportions of all elements are much nicer than anything from the Renaissance and neo classical eras.
We are talking serious super-talent, before they’ve put a spade in the ground!
For sure! They almost top french baroque architecture!
mortarless engineering is a lost technology from the ancients
The labyrinth still exists. It’s mostly flooded due to the rising water table, but its still there. PIETRE found its roof and assumed it was its remaining foundations. If only the water could be pumped out and the place explored…..
I would vote for the Walls of Constantinople. They worked for centuries and are still visible.
I hope everyone gets a chance to visit the colosseum atleast once in the life. Photos and videos do not do justice for how large and impressive the structure, even in a dilapidated state compared to its original form, is.
I was wondering if you knew about an ancient temple in Naples. It is supposed to predate the Greeks coming to Italy. It consists of a long straight tunnel 100s of meters long that leads to an underground stream. There is also a separate tunnel carved to provide ventilation for the main tunnel. I read an article on it years ago and now I can't find it again. Love the channel, BTW.
You're possibly referring to the Crypta Neapolitana, however that is just a vague guess.
@@RyanMurray-wg1qf No. The tunnels in question are tight in height and width.
a temple to mithras perhaps? sounds similar
You are amazing. Thank you!!
I love your book. Fun read
“Hey babe, another toldinstone vid just dropped…”
Haha funny joke
The labrynth wasn’t torn apart it’s still there the Egyptian government just doesn’t want you to enter.
I agree, we even have scan images showing structural shapes. I really hope a thorough excavation takes place one day, preferably in my lifetime!
Have you been to India? You would be so amazed by all the wonders there. They may not be as old as the ones in and around the Mediterranean, but wow will you be blow away. Take Ellora for example. Ellora, in central India, is a series of Hindu, Jain and Buddhist temples carved into the side of a basalt cliff. The complex stretches for several kilometers and features a truly astonishing array of sculpture and architectural work. The focal point is the Kailasa Temple, which is entirely excavated from the cliffside and adorn with all sorts of decorative elements. It's construction commands a level of mastery so advanced, that mistakes could not have been made whatsoever, lest the site be abandoned and years of work be lost. It's like Petra on steroids, truly an unbelievable sight!
I agree but would add that monumental and urban construction of the Bronze age Indian Harappan civilization seems to be on the same level as the Mediterranean and fertile crescent regions.
India has always been a full of history and civilisation since the ancient times to be honest! However, most of the building do not end as back as the ancient greek, mesopotamian or roman buildings. Except from that, most of the ancient buildings in india were destroyed and we know this from Alexander the great which mentioned that India was full of history and culture i would have never imagined
It would be interesting to do a video on the top 50 EXISTING wonders of the ancient world (could include Knossos, Parthenon, Pantheon, Hadrian's Wall, Mycenae, Pyramids, etc.).
Dude that’d be sick af. Like to realize and see these 50 things our mostly known world holds. Most of which I’d have never heard about before. Idk why that’s always been so satisfying to me, but learning new things always got me excited af
The ammount of books burned by the spanish inquisition is unbelievable
Please make a video about the original seven wonders of the ancient world! Or do you have a recommendation?
Here before 400K! Great video.
One of the few creators on TH-cam who doesn’t talk too fast
So many places still to visit
I can’t imagine the monuments we’ve never heard about! I really wish I could just lucid dream and travel there😂😂😂
You know what would be an interesting video if you were to do a condensed video on your serious book historical book, like whats it about and whats it argument and so forth would be a real interesting read.
Great video I was even interested in the video sponsor
It’s funny that the only remaining wonder of the original list of seven is the one that was always 1000+ years older than the other ones on the list.
You can tear down a tall statue relatively easily, but it's basically impossible to tear down a giant pile of rock. I believe one Muslim leader in the 10th (?) century tried, and left a nice gash in one, but it was deemed unfeasible and they gave up.
the positive side of the internet., channels like yours..excellent stuff
i love the ancient world so much. it’s crazy how technologically advanced they were and still managed to not damage the environment as badly as we do nowadays
lol
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trust me if they had industrial oil processing facilities they would have
Going to Italy in 4 days. First stop is the Colosseum, I'm looking forward to it!
whereabouts did you get the image at 4:20? It's stunningly detailed
I’ve always imagined the Great Wall of china as “the last wonder of the ancient world”
I mean thats the pyramids as they are the oldest
@@averyshaw2142 I only say it’s “the last” because it is the most recent one still in working condition and man made on a massive scale
Appreciate the shout out to The Big House 😎
Must say, I was sincerely waiting for the palace at Ecbatana =)
how i would love to see all of these today... luckely imagination comes free
You forget a pyramid in Italy taller than the great pyramid of Giza and was destroyed by sulla
I so wish that labyrinth in Egypt was more known about and easier to explore. The tales of it are consistent but seem to be impossible but time after time again the ancient world proves our doubt wrong. It is prob the most awe inspiring thing in Egypt but is also the least known to the public and with our technology we could drain it and explore it but no one seems to care.
Could someone please tell me what beautiful painting was used for the thumbnail of this video?
Saw the column lol of the Temple of Artemis. All that is left. 😮
pretty sure the columns of the theater of scaurus were not glass 6:00, i believe that the levels were decorated in somewhat of the matter you described though
hi toldinstone
The people who built Stonehenge - knew as long as the stones remained the information would be carried. It is “Written in Stone” originally it was magnificent building!
I’ll say it again: Read this man’s book. It’s entertaining and edifying.
If there were no ancient wonders then there would be nothing for us to wonder ....
Does anyone know the painting name at 6:38
could anyone tell me who made the paintings at 3:53 ?
THOSE GUYS, COULD BUILD ! 4:55 Time. NOTE how the stones, of this very strong arch, are staggered, between the rows ? For further ancient building techniques, download ancient author '' Vitruvius' 10 Books on Architecture ''. A thorough study, of what one SHOULD have, to be a great one. ! Todays' engineers, ought to read this...... Thank-you again, Mr Felton, for another very true, educated historical lesson ! 🖖
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I would add the road and aqueduct systems to the Ancient Wonders list.
That's crazy how the theater was dismantled.
Was that ‘the lick’ at the beginning of the video?
When you get a chance, can you share some stories about Mavia (Queen).
Rome had many wonders that are worthy of being on the real list. From Diocletian’s Bathhouse to the Theodosian Walls, but if I had to choose the most impressive feat of the Romans it had to be their roads. Many nations can say we built impressive structures. No ancient nation can say we connected three continents with 50,000 miles of roads. Time fears the Pyramids, but all Roads lead to Rome.
Todd should have included the Minotaur's labyrinth. Thankfully Heracles solved the minotaur problem.
The foreword to my Penguin Classics version of The History of the Kings of Britain calls Geoffrey of Monmouth a "mythomaniac". That title could just as easily go to Herodotus.
In a manner of speaking, 'You ain't seen nothing yet', we're next.
Look into Sigiriya in Sri Lanka, crazy story behind a fortress built on top of a giant rock by a king running from his brother after murdering his father.
where did you get that thumbnail
0:00 I just realized that your intro music is The Lick. Is that on purpose?
Everytime someoe talk of the Colosseum i cannot not think of what was in it's place before, even if for a short time, the Domus Aurea of Nero (who was unjustly killed by the oligarchy of Rome, if my knowledge of recent historical research is good), who was, i my mind, truly one of the wonders of the ancient world. So much that it's ruins inspired the Renaissance.
Why are captions always on when I watch these videos? Anyone else have that problem?
Fun fact: „Hawara“ is a very Austrian slang and low-society term for „friend“. Sometimes used as an exclamation of negative surprise, when someone does or tells something bad…
„Hawara!“
The bridge across the Danube River that was designed by Apollodorus of Damascus, built by Trajan, but destroyed by the following emperor Hadrian should have been mentioned. Apparently, Hadrian's logic was that Rome's enemies could now cross a bridge and threaten the empire just as surely as a Roman army could cross the same bridge in the other direction. Hadrian thought the empire was big enough and was opposed to further expansion.
The circus maximus is much bigger than the theatre of Scaurus and could fit more people than any stadium every made and to this day still holds that record, topping the Michigan stadium.
Man I wish I could see Babylon at its height 😭
How is the painting in the thumbnail named?
What is the thumbnail picture?
Wondering is this really correct to group/compare wonders of iron age Antiquity with those of bronze age.
In the far future we will be the ancient world
Just imagine what was around pre flood. Antediluvian times. Imagine what java looked like or Greece or Egypt. I for one would like to know what egypt looked like when the pyramids worked.
I would add the Aurelian walls of Rome to this list.
The sewer system of Rome actually is likely one of the most impressive projects ever. The Roman’s were very logical in realizing that if you want a great city and empire. You needed the foundation and infrastructure for it.
It took nearly 2,000 years for civilization to finally get back to this level of infrastructure.
There’s a very good theory that states that the Roman’s saw the failure of Greece as it being too vulnerable by having competing forces without a unified strategy. A lack of infrastructure for its main city’s and a vulnerable geography.
When the Mediterranean would have been accurately mapped is when Rome realized it’s perfect geographic proximity for being an empire. It would have seen how the Greeks had a very difficult task of keeping their empire because of their own geography.
Egypt rose to power because of its massive investments in its infrastructure to allow it to grow into a great power.
America followed this same lesson by developing its infrastructure and recognizing that the investment would have major benefits later on.
Our best lessons can be that we should widen, expand and modernize all of our highways. We should revamp and improve our rail system and we need to completely rebuild our top 100 airports so that we can continue to benefit from this infrastructure for the rest of this century.
Hagia Sophia should be one...
Hagia sophia not ancient
if the Oscars can expand from 5 to 10 best picture nominees then it is about time we went from 7 to 14 wonders of the world. 😉
That was a turd in the punch bowl
What was the Roman idea of what was ancient? Was there any interest in the peoples who lived in Italy before Roman conquest, or any interest in prehistoric man?
actually the labyrinth is still underground, more specifically under water, from a dam, and the department of antiquities led by wonderful friend of humanity zahi hawass wont allow to explore it.
Your saying the labyrinth was destroyed? I thought they were having problems with it flooding today with ground water, so...not gone?
The Saraepaeum is one of those, "things."
You’re the same guy from fire of learning right?