Pensioners have paid their dues. They recieve the lowest state pension in the whole of europe. They need this money. Keir Starmer isd a cruel excuse of a human being.
Giving billions in aid to foreign countries who have space programmes while removing low income pensioners heating allowances. You couldnt make this up !
@LeslieDiablerets I'm a veteran in my 60s, 2 weeks away from getting my pension. I'll tell you one thing, I'd definitely like to give them special treatment 😉.
Cos England keeps moaning then voting for them anyway. English people are the problem. U vote the same 2 parties over and over and expect change 😂. And Scottish idiots who basically voted for everything that’s happened since. They’re the biggest morons, they literally chose this
@@mjn213Don't talk nonsense ! The Welsh & Scottish governments are just as bad ! & The Irish assembly was so bad they didn't even sit for a few years.
Oh yea. Smart move to divide the UK ! 🙄 What an ill thought out comment. If ever there's been a time to stand united and strong its right now! @@mjn213
I agree, if it hadnt been for the establishment's dirty tricks during the last couple of weeks we would have had 15 MP's. An actor pretending to be a racist, the MSM calling Reform "far right" (When in fact their policies are much closer to Thatcherism than has been pointed out). Thatcherism with a kinder moral compass is where the huge majority of us that are egregiously labelled far right are positioned.
Chancellor Rachel Reeves earns around £160,000 a year as a Government Minister. I survive on a state pension of £12,000 a year ... and she says SHE had to make difficult decisions. Well, now I have difficult decisions to make: FEED and FREEZE or keep the heating on and STARVE this WINTER!
Thank you , we been Nannie’s and mummy’s, the makers of precious memories,we took on many roles , including comforter ,cleaner,teacher , story teller ,nurse ,chef , taxi, monster killer ,life coach and friend . We looked after a generation , now we ask bit of it be returned from Starmer . We not asking for a castle or jewels or flash cars , just warmth and good food . Please 🙏
Unbelievable we can pay so much tax payers money to keep the illegal immigrants comfortable in 5 star hotels! But we cant afford to keep our pensioners 'relatively ' warm this winter!!! It's just evil 😡
But not the multimillionaires / billionaires who have all their cash stuffed away in rich mans tax heavens - including Farage. We're stuffed no matter who gets in.
I voted Conservative all my adult life now 77, but despaired at how they changed since Cameron, this year I voted Reform out of the relief at having a conservative/right wing alternative to the other three parties. Labour are an absolute disgrace and very cruel.
I am exactly the same, I have never voted Labour, voted Tory all my voting life but this election I too voted Reform. Let's hope next May will start a change for the better.
4,950 died last winter WITH the winter fuel allowance so Starmer is doing this knowing full well what the implications are. His thinking is probably retiree’s don’t vote for Labour so it doesn’t matter but pensioners have families who won’t forget this appalling decision !
Nope, not 'insanity' - this is cold, calculated culling of the population. Insanity would be if these politicians harmed THEMSELVES with their policies, but they don't, do they? This is just another deliberately harmful policy designed to dismantle the fabric of this country. If anyone still thinks that all these harmful policies are just 'mistakes', then I have a bridge to sell them!
My 93yr old mother has just got a tax bill because her pension is £500 over the tax free allowance ? Insane !!!! How does Kier Starmer get a 6 figure “ Tax Free “ pension ?
I'm 60 years old and my father was a miner who brought me up as a labour voter who I've always voted for, i will never vote for them again, and my late father would be ashamed of what they've become!!!
Why would anyone have trusted a man like Starmer who stood along side of Corbyn and stated if elected at the time of the Brexit vote he would ignore a democratic vote and stay in the Evil Empire. The man has always been a lefty and should be treated with the contempt he deserves.
Yes and called a treasonous person knowingly putting the elderly's lives at risk. When you knowingly put someone to death and give away their birthright by handing it over to foreign bodies ---- You have committed treason. Peace out 🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴🍀
Starmer and his women are hitting folks with a sten gun delivery of changes before any discussion, before anything can be analysed so fast and furious theirs no time to assess. Purposely so no time to gather the ranks. I have to research ranks particularly Starmers background he's not normal - something is out of kilter. In that he let Asian grooming gangs off the hook when he was chief Prosecutor for CPS & Jimmy Saville of the hook (bestie of Charles, Philip, Louis Mountbatten) he had to keep Charles sweet as he wanted his reward - a knighthood.....all this can be verified. So what can we do now ? Just as America is suffering the same fate we must be cohesive with our friends as they will try to divide us. Do not comply. Lawfully rebel. Don't pay illegal taxes (we are still paying for wars that are long gone.) 🍀 Peace out 🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴🍀
I get fed up of Tory’s and others thinking that Reform stole Tory vote. They did not. We can vote any way we please the Tory party has no ownership over people’s votes.
I think we could save much more money by removing the fuel allowance for MP's on their own homes AND their second homes. If all MP's who currently receive this allowance [and I include Conservatives, Reform, Lib Dems etc. in this] had it removed, there would be more than enough to cover the £300 winter fuel payment for all pensioners. Why should the 'Sheriff of Nottingham' dictate who does and doesn't get this allowance when he is receiving it in abundance!
If cutting winter fuel allowance will provide 4000 excess deaths this winter, that would be 20,000 excess deaths over the life of the parliament. Is this wilful act of mass slaughter not an act of genocide by the UK government?
The last lot caused an estimated 12000 deaths through the austerity they imposed on us. We're all stuffed no mater who gets in. Starmer / Sunak / Farage. All peas from the same pod.
Of course they will, As a parasitic Labour MP he can claim up to £3500 heating and lighting allowance. That`s without all the pitiful petty claims they make for expenses, that most people have to pay for themselves. This is all means testing free for these parasites.
Why do taxpayers not have a say as to where our tax goes. You send my tax I pay to other countries. Stop giving it to other countries and look after the UK first.
It’s forever been understood that if you pay your stamp when you get old the government will make sure you’re looked after. Labour have broken the social contract.
Blair was the architect of the NEW LABOUR PARTY.............and now not to be outdone by his hero Blair, Starmer has now introduced the NEW NASTY PARTY.
If pensioners die, they save more than just the fuel payments, they will save on pensions and medication. I can't help feel this is deliberate, in being more than fuel payments.
There's actually a really simple solution to their £22b "black hole", and it's not scrapping the winter fuel allowance. Which, by the way, will only raise £1.4b. 1. Stop spending £10b on foreign aid. We don't need to be sending any money to India, or China. Both of those countries have space programs. If they want to install some wind turbines or solar panels let them do their own budgeting. 2. Stop spending £8b+ on free stuff for illegal immigrants. Stick them in camps until we can send them home. They don't need free dental, free hotels, free flats, or free anything else for that matter. 3. Stop spending how ever many billions it is on Ed Milliband's nonsense energy scheme. 4. Deal with the 1.6 million economically inactive asylum seekers that have been given the right to remain. That's costing about £16b a year. 5. Stop paying benefits to those that we've told to leave, that haven't left 6. Stop paying out to the unions since they've said they're going to strike again anyway! Seems to me that if they did even one of these things the "black hole" would shrink to half it's size.
Having read all that you say it is extraordinary they've picked on pensioners. Easy target? The COWARDS. How do we teach them a lesson? Voting clearly is not working.
Your perfectly reasonable and well-formed suggestions contain only one error - they are predicated on the idea that the government would want to help because they're 'on our side'. Yet everything they do demonstrates consistently that this is not the case. They serve themselves and not a national but a globalist agenda.
And 7) Shut down all those rich mans tax heavens. They have been screwing this country out of a fortune for too long - whilst the rest of us are being sucked dry. We cant afford that.
What makes me most angry is the fact that the Labour party GIVES AWAY OUR MONEY to its cronies (the countries that it cosies up to, the public sector that is linked to the unions, and above all lining their own pockets). It is all completely unbelievable, selfish.
I have stage four colorectal cancer, I am not frightened, yet I am scared of The Labour Party! I cannot get cold! and will have to go into debt to remain warm, and 'out there', we have people in worse straits than I am...........
10m a day for hotel bills for people that shouldn't be here..millions to a war that's not ours..daily food allowance for politicians when they can afford their own lunch...yet let's let our own people freeze this winter..no politicians care about the hardworking legal people of this country..at least Keir will be warm l suppose
The NHS will not be able to cope, as Pensioners will be admitted to hospital, through hypothermia and pneumonia. Well done Labour, hope your parents are staying warm this winter? We the taxpayers, are paying your wages???
IT WONT BE THE GENERAL PUBLIC CAUSING THE PROBLEMS IN A/E / HOSPITALS BY HAVING TO BE ADMITTED IT WILL BE THE GOVERNMENT. AS IF OUR NHS ISNT SUFFERING ENOUGH WITH HUGE WAITING LISTS!!!!!!!!!
Sadly, anyone who voted for Reform handed a massive majority to Labour. Over 4 million wasted votes for 5 seats, because they didn't understand the FPTP voting system,
@@pompeypops57 that's a joke, maybe he could put the heating on in his second house and invite a load of pensioners round to stay for the winter, show he does care 🥶😂😂😂
But that's not what THEY are experiencing, is it? From their point of view, THEY are all warm, wealthy and comfortable, aren't they? That's not the result of being led by a knob with 'no sense', that's the lifestyle of smart, self-serving, ruthless barstewards.
Starmer doesn't care, you need a heart for that, AND you can put glasses on a pig, BUT it doesn't make it any smarter. I also suspect those same fekin MP's will claim all their allowances etc.
No change there then. Anything for free in their case but in our case we worked, saved planned for old age and then we were shafted for doing the right thing.
No mention of that in parliament today when 345 Labour MPs voted against the people who worked all their lives but are still for the illegal immigrants who have paid in nothing but will be kept warm in hotels!...
@susansimpson6049 The many, many thousands of parasites who come into Britain and Ireland illegally are cosy and warm, free medical care, all the help they want, Sickening.
My heating failed during winter a few years ago, it took over a week to fix it, I cannot imagine what it would be like to have no heating at all. When I was young houses had solid fuel fires such as Rayburns and open fires burning coal and wood even oil but that’s all been fazed out for gas and electricity which is more expensive. Wood burners are expensive to install and these are not always appropriate.
Who are ... the freeloading elderly who have bankrupted this country and dumped THEIR DEBT on their grandkids generation ... you right they are a disgrace so shame on them
@@IggyGoesPop666 the elderly have worked all there lives and paid taxes and a lot of them fought for this country this is the short end of the wedge it will be the freedom passes next I think you should look at the illegal immigrants who they are finding money for
@@davidellis7365 Firstly I'm elderly myself so I know the truth about who worked and who didn't as we had MILLIONS of our generation signing on in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s! We also had MILLIONS of stay at home wives who didn't work or contribute for them to the RETIRE (I know ... from what) as soon as they got to the YOUNG age of 60. Millions of them then lived on into their 80s so 85 year old grandma has been given £10k a year for 25 years that comes to £250k yes thats QUARTER of a MILLION POUNDS ... so where has that money come from ... the MAGIC MONEY TREE???!!! So stop talking rubbish
The Basic pension is under 9 thousand a year . Government, Media, etc all speak about the so called New pension at under 14k a year . Basic pensioner's are the invisible people, shame on you people
🤔It was only around 10 days or so ago, that I watched the PM giving a speech, saying that energy companies were declaring exceptionally enormous profits, and was talking about a "windfall-tax" being applied! ... Supposedly the Gov. is unable to apply a 'cap' on the amount of profits being made, but surely this "windfall-tax" needs to go towards the fuel allowances?
Sadly not 'insanity' - this is cold, calculated culling of the population. Insanity would be if these politicians harmed THEMSELVES with their policies, but they don't, do they? This is just another deliberately harmful policy designed to dismantle the fabric of this country. If anyone still thinks that all these harmful policies are just 'mistakes', then I have a bridge to sell them!
things is most of those labour mp's are going to abstain and not vote against it because of the fear that they will lose the labour whip. So absolute cowards so they are and those voting in favour of as well
Government Living Wage is £11.44 per hour. Or £446.00 per Week and £23,200 per Year. Based on a 39 Hour Week. Pensioners get HALF OF THAT in State Pension £11,492 Pounds per Year. Are Pensioners not allowed the Same Living Standards as Everyone Else in the UK. We are Expected to Pay the Same Council Tax, Rent, Energy Costs, Food Bills, Propery Maintenance, Insurance, Vehicle Costs and Funeral Costs. Or does being Elderly mean you have to Live in Poverty until you Die. And having to decide if you Heat or Eat and end your days in Debt to Energy Companies.
I didn't want another Conservative government, but I certainly didn't want a Labour one. We'll need to feel this pain to ensure they're never elected for at least another generation.
They have also stopped warm home discount if you are not on eligible benefits. I was eligible for it on the first year of retirement, but they changed the rules again. I am still on a low income and my situation has not changed. That was the tories. Now Labour are stopped the winter fuel payment because £3 oer week to he eligible for pension credit. So now, I will be worse off than the poorest pensioners on Pension Credit. That's before any of the other perks are taken into consideration. 2 tier Kier and a 2 tier poorest pensioner.
I thought I would get warm home discount this year because I get housing benefit and am on a low income….. I looked at the form to apply and it asks you about what sort of boiler you have and how old it is. If your boiler was fitted after 2005 then NO you don’t get it. I have less money coming in, will lose winter fuel allowance and still they take more away from you. Pensioners are being treated so disgustingly and left to sit in the cold while these greedy politicians get allowances for this that and the other. It’s an appalling way to treat people
I dare not comment, as Starmer's 'Statzi' would kick my door down, beat me up & jail me for for not agreeing with his Dogmatic rhetoric and straying from his narrative. 😮
Even if you do claim Pension Credit, the backlog is several months now. The whole system is clapped out and not fit for purpose - except for HMRC of course as they are quick to demand money.
Ok so where do we petition to have politicians fuel allowances axed?? Politicians are very rich and yet the taxpayers, including pensioners are paying for politicians to heat their homes.
any person who has worked hard all their life and saved money for upkeep of their house in their old age is going to be over the ten thousand pound threshold, 2 tier kier staver needs to go
Pensioners have paid their dues. They recieve the lowest state pension in the whole of europe. They need this money. Keir Starmer isd a cruel excuse of a human being.
‘Keir Starmer is a cruel excuse of a human being.’ ….oh c’mon, he’s not that good….
Starter is a total disgrace to the country what you reap you will sow wicked man
WRONG CONTINENT MATE
Giving billions in aid to foreign countries who have space programmes while removing low income pensioners heating allowances. You couldnt make this up !
Yes, I, for one, am beyond angry with this government.
MPs salary is £91k + expenses. How in gods name do they have the brass neck to be able to claim 1000s for their heating bills. ?
Oh, they see themselves special people and as such deserve special treatment!
It’s absolutely sickening. 😢. Such hypocrites.
@LeslieDiablerets I'm a veteran in my 60s, 2 weeks away from getting my pension. I'll tell you one thing, I'd definitely like to give them special treatment 😉.
Cos England keeps moaning then voting for them anyway. English people are the problem. U vote the same 2 parties over and over and expect change 😂. And Scottish idiots who basically voted for everything that’s happened since. They’re the biggest morons, they literally chose this
they have NO MORALS!!
It should not only go bad for Starmer it should get him out of office - he should resign now !
Don't be silly, he's loving every minute of it, along with his gruesome ladies!
Well yes, there was 1 Labour abstention. Catastrophe!
Omg yes, yes yes!
He won't resign as he is a sociopath
And his cohorts
8 billion to house migrants but that cold hearted starmer wants to rob the pensioners that has worked all their lives he's one vile individual
he has the balls to justify it, he hs to go!!
Karma's a stunt!
Exactly. Absolutely disgusting. Britain can’t survive five years of starmer
Get him out bloody disgusting too treat pensioners this way
Well he was a friend of JIMMY SAVILE,
let him and his family live in a cold house but no he will be nice and cushy in his heated home what a wicked man vote REFORM
He has 7.4 MILLION in the bank!!, what a great LIEBOUR idiot!!
Reform would be just as bad.
Doesn’t matter who’s in, Westminster is not fit for purpose.
Uk should split and be run separately
@@mjn213Don't talk nonsense ! The Welsh & Scottish governments are just as bad ! & The Irish assembly was so bad they didn't even sit for a few years.
@@mjn213 do you have any proof in what you just said
Oh yea. Smart move to divide the UK ! 🙄 What an ill thought out comment. If ever there's been a time to stand united and strong its right now! @@mjn213
VOTE REFORM BRITAIN. Take our country back.
I did
It starts in May 2925 in the local elections!
@@12alocin 901 years is a long time to wait.
how did that work out for you.........oh yes, It DIDNT!
It's too late, there's 5 years of this lot!
Absolutely shameful! They’re a disgrace. Vote Reform!
Voting is rigged
I agree, if it hadnt been for the establishment's dirty tricks during the last couple of weeks we would have had 15 MP's. An actor pretending to be a racist, the MSM calling Reform "far right" (When in fact their policies are much closer to Thatcherism than has been pointed out). Thatcherism with a kinder moral compass is where the huge majority of us that are egregiously labelled far right are positioned.
& Tice is mates with Midazolam Man Hancock
@@mikeoxlong4110Hancock no longer has any say in parliament.
@@mikeoxlong4110 Why is that relevant Doofus?
Chancellor Rachel Reeves earns around £160,000 a year as a Government Minister. I survive on a state pension of £12,000 a year ... and she says SHE had to make difficult decisions. Well, now I have difficult decisions to make: FEED and FREEZE or keep the heating on and STARVE this WINTER!
You will still qualify for the heating allowance!
@@polaris7122 No you wont. The cut off point for pension credit is 218 pounds....do the maths. Thats well under 12,000 pounds per year.
I`ve made a decision and it wasn`t difficult at all, I`ll never vote labour in council, Welsh assembly or general elections.
And how much is she pocketing under the table or from the WEF?
❤ i love our old people, they have morals and principles, ❤
Yes of course but remember you will also be old one day. We are not a separate race!
God bless you always respect your elders
Thank you , we been Nannie’s and mummy’s, the makers of precious memories,we took on many roles , including comforter ,cleaner,teacher , story teller ,nurse ,chef , taxi, monster killer ,life coach and friend . We looked after a generation , now we ask bit of it be returned from Starmer . We not asking for a castle or jewels or flash cars , just warmth and good food . Please 🙏
In my 74 years there have been Governments and P.M.'s I haved dislked but not hated This is first for me absolutely despise Starmer and his cronies.
Abstaining is a cowards way out
it should be mandatory to vote they are supposed to support their constichany
All frightened of Stalin Starmer
Unbelievable we can pay so much tax payers money to keep the illegal immigrants comfortable in 5 star hotels! But we cant afford to keep our pensioners 'relatively ' warm this winter!!! It's just evil 😡
But not the multimillionaires / billionaires who have all their cash stuffed away in rich mans tax heavens - including Farage. We're stuffed no matter who gets in.
I voted Conservative all my adult life now 77, but despaired at how they changed since Cameron, this year I voted Reform out of the relief at having a conservative/right wing alternative to the other three parties. Labour are an absolute disgrace and very cruel.
Reform all the way voted reform last time and will do that again and again
I am exactly the same, I have never voted Labour, voted Tory all my voting life but this election I too voted Reform. Let's hope next May will start a change for the better.
Sadly, you all handed a massive majority to Labour. Did you not know how the FPTP voting system works?
REFORM UK
@@polaris7122No. It was the Conservative incompetence that handed the majority to Labour.
This is apalling
"No man is safe who refuses to defend his own land ! Cowardice is a tin shed !"
🇬🇧
Musashi
MPs should represent their constituents not be scared by the whip being removed
They don't dont even know who mine is all I know it is labour
4,950 died last winter WITH the winter fuel allowance so Starmer is doing this knowing full well what the implications are. His thinking is probably retiree’s don’t vote for Labour so it doesn’t matter but pensioners have families who won’t forget this appalling decision !
He's worked out how much 4000 freed up pensions will be. More free houses for Mohammad and his kin.
They've literally gone for the demographic who CAN'T fight back. They should be ashamed
My 93yr old mother has just got a tax bill because her pension is £500 over the tax free allowance ?
Insane !!!!
Make them wait…..
Same for me and I am 83
@@roynicklin7452 Absolutely !!!
@@johnrudd9550 I totally agree.She can’t even use a mobile phone !!
Disgusting. Bless her. This country is a disgrace. God bless your mum ❤️🙏
Take away pensioners' winter fuel payments to help pay for hotel accommodation and free money for illegal immigrants. Insanity.
Nope, not 'insanity' - this is cold, calculated culling of the population. Insanity would be if these politicians harmed THEMSELVES with their policies, but they don't, do they? This is just another deliberately harmful policy designed to dismantle the fabric of this country. If anyone still thinks that all these harmful policies are just 'mistakes', then I have a bridge to sell them!
My 93yr old mother has just got a tax bill because her pension is £500 over the tax free allowance ?
Insane !!!!
How does Kier Starmer get a 6 figure “ Tax Free “ pension ?
@@Tara-xp6kiand my 93yr old dad said that as well.
Because the rules don't apply to him somehow!
I'm 60 years old and my father was a miner who brought me up as a labour voter who I've always voted for, i will never vote for them again, and my late father would be ashamed of what they've become!!!
Just a shame you didn't come to this decision a couple of months ago. It was so obvious, but very few could see.
Why would anyone have trusted a man like Starmer who stood along side of Corbyn and stated if elected at the time of the Brexit vote he would ignore a democratic vote and stay in the Evil Empire. The man has always been a lefty and should be treated with the contempt he deserves.
Wasn't it obvious after Blair?
So you voted for them again this yr… bet yr regretting that now!!
@@julieemery8963 no I didn't
If an Labour MP abstains they’re in effect voting to allow the theft of money from pensioners.
Any MP that does that must be named and shamed.
Yes and called a treasonous person knowingly putting the elderly's lives at risk. When you knowingly put someone to death and give away their birthright by handing it over to foreign bodies ----
You have committed treason.
Peace out 🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴🍀
Starmer and his women are hitting folks with a sten gun delivery of changes before any discussion, before anything can be analysed so fast and furious theirs no time to assess.
Purposely so no time to gather the ranks. I have to research ranks particularly Starmers background he's not normal - something is out of kilter.
In that he let Asian grooming gangs off the hook when he was chief Prosecutor for CPS & Jimmy Saville of the hook (bestie of Charles, Philip, Louis Mountbatten) he had to keep Charles sweet as he wanted his reward - a knighthood.....all this can be verified.
So what can we do now ? Just as America is suffering the same fate we must be cohesive with our friends as they will try to divide us.
Do not comply.
Lawfully rebel.
Don't pay illegal taxes (we are still paying for wars that are long gone.) 🍀
Peace out 🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴🍀
Abstainers are cowards- if you oppose it vote against it.
I hope the powers that be make Starmer pay for his evil policies
I hope you're talking about God. He's in the back pocket of the powers on earth.
If course his party will support him or they will get sacked.
God works in mysterious ways, the labs will get their karma
It's very warm where Starmer and reeves are heading at the end.....
Karma's a stunt!
Reform doesn't need the Torys
I get fed up of Tory’s and others thinking that Reform stole Tory vote. They did not. We can vote any way we please the Tory party has no ownership over people’s votes.
ONLY SUELLA TURN THE REST AWAY!
The conservatives are finished and they still don't know Reform is the only party for the workingman
Not a single mention, EVER on talk TV about Starma and his connection with Davos and the WEF. I wonder why 🤔
starmer and the Labour government are going to take. Take. Take from our pensioners till they have nothing
we bloody wont let them!! bring it on
Give everything free to the newcomers for taxpayers to fund.
@@jacksyful Really? How has that worked out so far ? Not being a troll, just honest
Not just the pensioners.. all of us😡😡
I think we could save much more money by removing the fuel allowance for MP's on their own homes AND their second homes. If all MP's who currently receive this allowance [and I include Conservatives, Reform, Lib Dems etc. in this] had it removed, there would be more than enough to cover the £300 winter fuel payment for all pensioners. Why should the 'Sheriff of Nottingham' dictate who does and doesn't get this allowance when he is receiving it in abundance!
If cutting winter fuel allowance will provide 4000 excess deaths this winter, that would be 20,000 excess deaths over the life of the parliament. Is this wilful act of mass slaughter not an act of genocide by the UK government?
The figure is difficult to prove, and the buggers know it. Starmer is pure evil in an expensive suit.
@@sisyphussapprentice8976 an expensive suit he didn't even pay for.
The last lot caused an estimated 12000 deaths through the austerity they imposed on us. We're all stuffed no mater who gets in. Starmer / Sunak / Farage. All peas from the same pod.
Get the WEF out of Westmonster.
-or is it DAVOS ???? Treacherous Starmer says Westminster does not have his allegiance. Davos does.
Charles the Turd is head of WEF😩😩
Starmer thinks he will be part of the ruling elite in the NWO but they have him down as a useful idiot!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Get the WEF out of Wefminster. Lol
Jake Berry speaking a lot of sense and holding his hands up to conservative failings 👍
U R rite he is actually ok...shame he got voted out ..SD move to reform
@@RosieMcGee-u8v 100% Agree 👍
Why has no one in PMQ's asked Starmer if he and his family will be warm this winter?
Of course they will, As a parasitic Labour MP he can claim up to £3500 heating and lighting allowance. That`s without all the pitiful petty claims they make for expenses, that most people have to pay for themselves. This is all means testing free for these parasites.
I can’t write on here what I wish for Starmer, reeves, Rayner and rest of the cronies.
Rayner wants to stop the sale of council houses, she sold hers ! !
Like wise absolutely agree 😢
I feel the same absolutely disgusted
no you cannot say what every one is thinking the dictator will jail u
Yes vile, aren't they!!
Why do taxpayers not have a say as to where our tax goes. You send my tax I pay to other countries. Stop giving it to other countries and look after the UK first.
Most of the labour MPs are a disgrace
I wonder how many cowardly Labour MPs will abstain
How do we get him out ?
Every UK citizen has the right to vote, if you abstain from voting you should lose the right…for MPs voting should be mandatory…..
They are all cowards and weasel's lead by a very odd, cold, little man!
Lisa Nandy my guess as a definite...
About fifty will abstain
I don't know because I've no TV !!!
It’s forever been understood that if you pay your stamp when you get old the government will make sure you’re looked after. Labour have broken the social contract.
Blair was the architect of the NEW LABOUR PARTY.............and now not to be outdone by his hero Blair, Starmer has now introduced the NEW NASTY PARTY.
MY JEW UNCLE DIED 4 THAT BA..STRD!
Bliar is pulling Starmers strings!
Starmer needs to go. Total vote of no confidence should do it. Then vote Reform every chance you can.
If pensioners die, they save more than just the fuel payments, they will save on pensions and medication. I can't help feel this is deliberate, in being more than fuel payments.
I am inclined to agree
There's actually a really simple solution to their £22b "black hole", and it's not scrapping the winter fuel allowance. Which, by the way, will only raise £1.4b.
1. Stop spending £10b on foreign aid. We don't need to be sending any money to India, or China. Both of those countries have space programs. If they want to install some wind turbines or solar panels let them do their own budgeting.
2. Stop spending £8b+ on free stuff for illegal immigrants. Stick them in camps until we can send them home. They don't need free dental, free hotels, free flats, or free anything else for that matter.
3. Stop spending how ever many billions it is on Ed Milliband's nonsense energy scheme.
4. Deal with the 1.6 million economically inactive asylum seekers that have been given the right to remain. That's costing about £16b a year.
5. Stop paying benefits to those that we've told to leave, that haven't left
6. Stop paying out to the unions since they've said they're going to strike again anyway!
Seems to me that if they did even one of these things the "black hole" would shrink to half it's size.
Well said totally agree with you
Having read all that you say it is extraordinary they've picked on pensioners. Easy target? The COWARDS. How do we teach them a lesson? Voting clearly is not working.
Your perfectly reasonable and well-formed suggestions contain only one error - they are predicated on the idea that the government would want to help because they're 'on our side'. Yet everything they do demonstrates consistently that this is not the case. They serve themselves and not a national but a globalist agenda.
From a NewZealander....l agree with you totally...
And 7) Shut down all those rich mans tax heavens. They have been screwing this country out of a fortune for too long - whilst the rest of us are being sucked dry. We cant afford that.
I voted for Reform last time and will again next time
What makes me most angry is the fact that the Labour party GIVES AWAY OUR MONEY to its cronies (the countries that it cosies up to, the public sector that is linked to the unions, and above all lining their own pockets). It is all completely unbelievable, selfish.
Abstain = agreeing with TTKStalin.
I started working aged 15 till aged 66 paid my stamp all my life This stinks please can the government get me a hot water bottle and a blanket
I have stage four colorectal cancer, I am not frightened, yet I am scared of The Labour Party! I cannot get cold! and will have to go into debt to remain warm, and 'out there', we have people in worse straits than I am...........
10m a day for hotel bills for people that shouldn't be here..millions to a war that's not ours..daily food allowance for politicians when they can afford their own lunch...yet let's let our own people freeze this winter..no politicians care about the hardworking legal people of this country..at least Keir will be warm l suppose
Not even his wife could believe that!
20% is not a win.Its a massive fail! 😡
Hold the phone why have they got tax-free pensions? None of us have that we all have to pay taxes on a pensions?
The honesty from Jake berry is what we need from MP’s
but he wants to cull the elderly and the disabled. he is a sociopath, he doesn't have guilt.
The NHS will not be able to cope, as Pensioners will be admitted to hospital, through hypothermia and pneumonia. Well done Labour, hope your parents are staying warm this winter? We the taxpayers, are paying your wages???
IT WONT BE THE GENERAL PUBLIC CAUSING THE PROBLEMS IN A/E / HOSPITALS BY HAVING TO BE ADMITTED IT WILL BE THE GOVERNMENT. AS IF OUR NHS ISNT SUFFERING ENOUGH WITH HUGE WAITING LISTS!!!!!!!!!
And the long term effects of living in a cold damp home are arthritis and rheumatism...
Didn't they just get a pay rise? They wanted more money, they got it and now they have to take care of the people the money was taken from.
That’s what they want …..
LONDON 26TH. peaceful protest. Please people be there take our country back from the illegals and the pm and his regime.
Vote reform
Labour a Political Party totally without compassion, empathy or a moral compass, your Country will never forget or forgive.
Reform needs to get more seats, vote reform, it's the only way to get country back on track for the people
All pensioners vote reform in all elections.
I did and will be in future 👍
Well said that is who I voted for and will continue to do so in the future
Sadly, anyone who voted for Reform handed a massive majority to Labour. Over 4 million wasted votes for 5 seats, because they didn't understand the FPTP voting system,
Me too, did and will...
Agree
DO WE GET FUNDS FROM OTNER COUNTRIES TO HELP US THE BRITISH PEOPLE
Excellent point the way things are being run we will need charity from other countries to survive. Unless you are if a certain demographic of course 😉
Abstaining is the same as voting for loss of winter fuel payment for pensioners
If pensions in this country weren’t one of if not the lowest in the Western world the cold weather payment wouldn’t be necessary but it is.
Claim asylum and live for free
Send them back
2 tier starmer has 2 homes
And I'm going to guess both are going to be nice and warm this winter!!!
That's £6000 a year heating allowance for him
2 faced as well.
@@pompeypops57 that's a joke, maybe he could put the heating on in his second house and invite a load of pensioners round to stay for the winter, show he does care 🥶😂😂😂
Some MP's must surely realise that they are being led by a complette knob.
On the other hand, I'd say karma's a stunt.
But that's not what THEY are experiencing, is it? From their point of view, THEY are all warm, wealthy and comfortable, aren't they? That's not the result of being led by a knob with 'no sense', that's the lifestyle of smart, self-serving, ruthless barstewards.
Starmer doesn't care, you need a heart for that, AND you can put glasses on a pig, BUT it doesn't make it any smarter.
I also suspect those same fekin MP's will claim all their allowances etc.
He does care, just not about the british people
ALL M PS CLAIMING EXPENSES..ITS TIME THIS STOPPED ..SAME AS PAYING FOR ELEC METERS GAS METERS ..WHAT A RIP OFF ! !
No change there then. Anything for free in their case but in our case we worked, saved planned for old age and then we were shafted for doing the right thing.
We have yet to see any proof of this alledged 22 billion hole but in the same breath can spend 9billion on wage claims
Start by voting Labour out at the local election
It is the only way that stammer is going to listen to the people
Lets take away the winter allowance and pay for the immigrants to be in hotels and help them over here
I hope this comment is a BIG JOKE
@@patriciabingham8668 for us yes for the government probably the truth
No mention of that in parliament today when 345 Labour MPs voted against the people who worked all their lives but are still for the illegal immigrants who have paid in nothing but will be kept warm in hotels!...
@susansimpson6049 The many, many thousands of parasites who come into Britain and Ireland illegally are cosy and warm, free medical care, all the help they want, Sickening.
@@patriciabingham8668 its a joke
REFORM UK
Starmer has finished labour and its Mp's, they might as well go home now, not one stood up to him... Weak, very, very weak..... 😮😮
He's exactly right you can't blame the voters.
But 6000000 GBP tax payers money a day for illigal immigrants in hotels in the UK they can pay.
My heating failed during winter a few years ago, it took over a week to fix it, I cannot imagine what it would be like to have no heating at all. When I was young houses had solid fuel fires such as Rayburns and open fires burning coal and wood even oil but that’s all been fazed out for gas and electricity which is more expensive. Wood burners are expensive to install and these are not always appropriate.
I have a wood burning stove and just read we can be charged three hundred pounds for burning 'the wrong wood'. I give up.😢
Worst than the nazis this lot
next step ,all pensioners will have a white armband with a red P on
Who are ... the freeloading elderly who have bankrupted this country and dumped THEIR DEBT on their grandkids generation ... you right they are a disgrace so shame on them
@@IggyGoesPop666 the elderly have worked all there lives and paid taxes and a lot of them fought for this country this is the short end of the wedge it will be the freedom passes next I think you should look at the illegal immigrants who they are finding money for
@IggyGoesPop666 I hope you're being sarcastic, if not you're a total c@nt.
@@davidellis7365 Firstly I'm elderly myself so I know the truth about who worked and who didn't as we had MILLIONS of our generation signing on in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s! We also had MILLIONS of stay at home wives who didn't work or contribute for them to the RETIRE (I know ... from what) as soon as they got to the YOUNG age of 60. Millions of them then lived on into their 80s so 85 year old grandma has been given £10k a year for 25 years that comes to £250k yes thats QUARTER of a MILLION POUNDS ... so where has that money come from ... the MAGIC MONEY TREE???!!! So stop talking rubbish
The Basic pension is under 9 thousand a year . Government, Media, etc all speak about the so called New pension at under 14k a year . Basic pensioner's are the invisible people, shame on you people
Its the demise of the people that have been born after the 2nd world war
🤔It was only around 10 days or so ago, that I watched the PM giving a speech, saying that energy companies were declaring exceptionally enormous profits, and was talking about a "windfall-tax" being applied! ... Supposedly the Gov. is unable to apply a 'cap' on the amount of profits being made, but surely this "windfall-tax" needs to go towards the fuel allowances?
Hurry up please ,Starmer is insane.
Sadly not 'insanity' - this is cold, calculated culling of the population. Insanity would be if these politicians harmed THEMSELVES with their policies, but they don't, do they? This is just another deliberately harmful policy designed to dismantle the fabric of this country. If anyone still thinks that all these harmful policies are just 'mistakes', then I have a bridge to sell them!
things is most of those labour mp's are going to abstain and not vote against it because of the fear that they will lose the labour whip. So absolute cowards so they are and those voting in favour of as well
Agree. Reason is Starmer is a bully. I'm not frightened of him
Government Living Wage is £11.44 per hour. Or £446.00 per Week and £23,200 per Year. Based on a 39 Hour Week. Pensioners get HALF OF THAT in State Pension £11,492 Pounds per Year. Are Pensioners not allowed the Same Living Standards as Everyone Else in the UK. We are Expected to Pay the Same Council Tax, Rent, Energy Costs, Food Bills, Propery Maintenance, Insurance, Vehicle Costs and Funeral Costs. Or does being Elderly mean you have to Live in Poverty until you Die. And having to decide if you Heat or Eat and end your days in Debt to Energy Companies.
You didn't mention the basic state pension is about £3k less!
Starmer does not feel the cold because his heart is already cold.
and Robber reeves
Reptile cold !! ?
And his heating bills are paid!
Wrong Starmer has no heart except for his dinghy invader friends
He's not got a heart and neither has Reeves, Raynor, Cooper, and the cowardly front bench?
Get him out 😊
Sooner rather than later ideally 😉🇬🇧
PENSIONERS YOU NO WHAT TO DO NEXT MAY'S LOCAL ELECTIONS VOTE EVERY LABOUR MAYOR AND COUNCILLOR OUT OF OFFICE
PENSIONER PAY BACK
I will be don't worry.
Unfortunately he is importing g his own army of voters
I didn't want another Conservative government, but I certainly didn't want a Labour one. We'll need to feel this pain to ensure they're never elected for at least another generation.
No, forever.
@@liliancarroll3189 That would work for me.
The overseas aid bill is , back pocket money for corrupt governments, new houses and new cars etc
Money won't rule over my morals ot principles because i love my country 🇬🇧 ❤
I’ve had enough of this government!! Bring back Sunak 😢😢
No get reform UK in power...
You are joking he fucked our country as well reform all the way to get our country back
No vote reform
@@jasminehobbs6188 reform is a one trick pony and just blaming immigrants will not solve your problems
22 billion black hole? Any mention of Ukraine?
They have also stopped warm home discount if you are not on eligible benefits. I was eligible for it on the first year of retirement, but they changed the rules again. I am still on a low income and my situation has not changed. That was the tories. Now Labour are stopped the winter fuel payment because £3 oer week to he eligible for pension credit. So now, I will be worse off than the poorest pensioners on Pension Credit. That's before any of the other perks are taken into consideration. 2 tier Kier and a 2 tier poorest pensioner.
I thought I would get warm home discount this year because I get housing benefit and am on a low income….. I looked at the form to apply and it asks you about what sort of boiler you have and how old it is. If your boiler was fitted after 2005 then NO you don’t get it. I have less money coming in, will lose winter fuel allowance and still they take more away from you. Pensioners are being treated so disgustingly and left to sit in the cold while these greedy politicians get allowances for this that and the other. It’s an appalling way to treat people
@@50angeleyes So, they've added another layer of red tape then. It's terrible 😞.
get them out and replace them with Reform in
I dare not comment, as Starmer's 'Statzi' would kick my door down, beat me up & jail me for for not agreeing with his Dogmatic rhetoric and straying from his narrative. 😮
Least you would not have to worry about the heating and electricity bills
PENSIONERS REVOLT Imagine millions of Pensioners out side Parliment with blankets wrapped around them
Even if you do claim Pension Credit, the backlog is several months now. The whole system is clapped out and not fit for purpose - except for HMRC of course as they are quick to demand money.
Ok so where do we petition to have politicians fuel allowances axed?? Politicians are very rich and yet the taxpayers, including pensioners are paying for politicians to heat their homes.
any person who has worked hard all their life and saved money for upkeep of their house in their old age is going to be over the ten thousand pound threshold, 2 tier kier staver needs to go
but it could buy 4000 beds at a holiday inn!!!
You're just as cynical as me. Sorry truthful. lol.
I hope Starmer doesn’t take away my bus pass because I will spend the winter between the library and on the bus
Rachel Reeves didn't even turn up to make the statement
Starma wants all us pensioners to die.
The 'all Governments' want the pensioners/all the poor to die. Look at the convid and the jibby jabby's. We're surplus to requirements.