The itajuba guns factory actually made a very big part of the Brazilian armament, as i served last year, i still see some FAL and PARA-FAL, with a couple of bolt action mosquetão made by the factory of itajuba
I'm currently living in São Caetano do Sul and there's an Imbel representant 5 min walk away from my apartment. São Caetano do Sul na rua Nazaret, pode procurar no Google Maps. Eu sou tão feliz aqui....
@@Pommezul Not a factory, but if you google it, type the address R. Maceió, 607, CEP 09551-030. They represent IMBEL on most of their sales and they're excellent! Awesome work. If you live around here you can come and check their drills and I believe they can do the paperwork for you to carry or own a pistol with no hassle.
I am Brazilian and I confess that I had no idea of the existence of such a weapon. I was an Air Force military in the 1980s and what we had was the famous Kar 98 for ceremonial purposes (with original markings from Germany, Czech and the Brazilian production of the same), the HK 33, the Air Force's standard assault rifle, and the FAL, used by the Brazilian Army, in addition to other weapons ... but I never heard of this national version of the G43 ... impressive !!!
As a Brazilian, I can confirm that the vast majority of the people is very ignorant when talking about firearms, and the anti-gun mentality of the past governments only made things worse.
So it's a rifle based on a German design, chambered in a American caliber, built with a manufacturing philosophy fit for a Russian weapon...geez that's a mix.
A Brazilian rifle copied from a German rifle based on a Soviet rifle chambered in an American cartridge built with a manufacturing philosophy fit for a Pakistani rifle seems more fitting.
The bolt carrier, the rear sight block, and other parts were Investment Cast ( lost wax process) NOT Forged! In both the G/K 43, And the M954!!!. An effective manufacturing system ( less machining) and similar strenght to forging and milling;--- less cost producing part both on small runs ( no costly hot forging dies) and easily reproducible in large production ( c/f TRW M14s, investment castbolts and receivers.) Ruger developedboth aircraft parts and guns by IC in 1950s, to greater success and finish than early German processes. DocAV
Somos brasileiros.....gostamos de modificar as coisas ao nosso jeito......desta vez passou os limites(we are Brazilians ......we like a modify the things for us .......This time......we turne all limits
@@MindBodySoulOk Aparentemente ss, ñ sei se as nomeclaturas mudaram (sei q mtas tecnicas ss) mas as nomeclaturas n sei Mas a forma correta de se referir a safe nesse caso é "trava" "safe on"=travado
What I don't get, is why would they chose to make a modified version of an inferior design to the Garand, in the same caliber as the Garand, and yet they could have simply accepted/purchased Garands from the United States?
Brazil had a lack of semi and full auto weapons in the 1940s. So the BR troops in Italy took a whole bunch of semi and full auto weapons from German stocks back home, as ordered. The G43s were used to make this.
During my mandatory service last year, I trained in a small countryside military base also know as TG. We had a modified version of the Gewehr 98, it was converted to fire 7.62x51mm, had a FN FAL barrel and muzzle break, and G3 iron sights. But I never knew this one existed! Great video! Ps: I trained with that gun because TGs are more like a tradition, only in capitals and bigger towns there are "real" military bases were they train with assault rifles, stay weeks in the barracks and have proper training, the only reason TGs exist it's because the mandatory service law.
That's EXACTLY what i was thinking when i see a mosquetão for the first time, and the PARA-FAL actually is a Frankenstein weapon too! Basically has almost all of the features of an m4 but without the forward assist, its a bitch when it jams, you literally has to kick the fucking bolt handle in order to eject the malfunctioning cartridge, my tenente almost lost his middle finger because of this
@@Авасн the handle is a bitch alright, during training my colleague managed to break the handle off while trying hammer it backwards, I never saw four tenentes going berserk at the same time
This comment section resumes brazilian firearms in a nutshell. I can say that because I am brazilian myself, and know the reliability issues some of our guns have. That's why the IA2 was developed. However, it will take some years until the whole army is equipped with it.
@@DemoralizedMan KKKKK yeah that shit is fucked up, but hey c'mon how can he managed that? Such a bizonho man, as my sargento PQD once said: "recruta tem mão sexual, tudo que toca, fode!"
Ha! I know this rifle. 20 years ago when I was a reenactor I collected gG43 and K43. At the time I entertained the idea about what it would take to restock these as G43 for reenactors. Thank for producing a clip on this. I thought that I was the only person in North America that had a clue about about these Brasilia Gewehrs. 😀👍
Someone, somewhere is going to mount this thing over their fireplace. They'll have guests over and they'll look at it and say: "Is that a G43? Cool!" "No it's a Mosquetão Semi-Automático M954" "Say wha-?"
G43 video - originally aired years ago on Forgotten Weapons: "I can't recall someone copying a G43 mechanism ever made." The Mosquetão Semi-Automático M954: "Am I a joke to you?"
I shot one of those while my mandatory 1 year tour in 2010 when I was 18. They had one still working in the warehouse for us to train at the firing range. This rifle is remarkably accurate, simple and functional design, and really fun to shoot. I miss the Army.
@@PerturaBased se você tem menos de 18, segue pro Tiro amigo. Eu tava cagando na calça, nao queria ser escolhido pra ser sincero HAHAHA Mas foi tudo uma experiência maravilhosa. Porém creio eu que, dependendo da sua unidade, você vai ter acesso à FAL e se você tiver "sorte" (azar), a MosqueFAL também! Brasil é minha vida e eu vou proteger meu povo igual eu protejo minha vida. Amém irmãos!
@@PerturaBased (AVISO leia apenas 1o paragráfo para informaçoes.) (O resto é nostalgia e história chatas) Voce ainda pode ter menos que 24 anos para se alistar novamente, se não me engano, mas aqui é em um complexo de alistamento no PoupaTempo/Atende Fácil. Dá uma olhada no site de recruta do Exército. Eu desisti da minha carreira militar porque eu entrei na faculdade... no 2o ano da facul (2014) eu ganhei um contrato absurdamente maravilhoso pela CAPES e o programa Ciência Sem Fronteiras. Eu morei em Ohio... mas a melhor parte foi que o meu professor mais amigo é veterano do Afeganistão e especialista em guerra biológica (que tá fazendo uma moral boa nessa pandemia do COVID) ele me ensinou DEMAIS. Ele viu meu potencial e a gente virou amigo, aí um dia perto de Set/Out de 2014 ele dirigiu a gente pra visitar a fábrica da Ohio Ordnance em Chardon e esse pessoal é tudo sobre armas clássicas em 30-06. Eu atirei tanto nessa experiencia, aprendi a montar e desmontar e dar um geral sobre a engenharia bélica de uma arma de fogo, eu fico nostálgico só de contar.
As a Brazilian, and a great fan of this channel, I feel ashamed of 2 things: 1 - I've just noticed I wasn't a subscriber 2 - This video is 3 years old, and I had never seen it Fantastic video, as always. What I've been told about / have read about the M954, the odd thing of producing a G43 well after WWII, was that the arms factory of Itajubá had mainly german tooling from the 30s - Brazil had quite close relations with Germany during the 1930s. As with many countries worldwide, we had our democratic turbulences after 1929 and a dictatorship installed. That brought a lot of German industrial stuff to Brazil. As stop-gap, interim solution, it might have seemed more practical to hastily produce G43s. US military doctrines also were very new to us, as it was the French that influenced the Brazilian military since the early 20th century.
A while ago, I worked for Mercedes-Benz ( Australia ), and we got parts in from both Germany and Brazil. You could always tell where the castings and forgings originated from, the German ones had an excellent surface finish and were precise. The same could not be said for the parts from Brazil, sure, they fitted , and sometimes even worked as good as the German parts, but they were as rough as guts and gave us a lot of headaches.
A complete lack of formal education is to blame for that. A lot of machinists get to start early as shop apprendices and either never get a formal certification course before starting professional work or they DO start classes but abandon them as soon as they think they had learned "enough" to start working.
Fault of the factory in Brazil or quality control in Australia? If it wasn't the factory building the car, they probably didn't even know about this problem.
@@ringding1000 It looks like the exterior surfaces that might present a clearance or cut hazard have been roughly linished or knocked back with a grinding wheel.
Ian, i live in brazil itajubá, The fabrica de itajubá became now IMBEL (Industria de Material Belico do Brasil), cool to see history of my city! Also, the FN FAL still in service in Brazil. Also Itajubá has a Army outpost, 4º battalion of combat engineering, which still uses the FN FAL.
Gotta love how much Tokarev influence is seen here, and on the G43... Not just the gas piston system, but even fluted chambers... What a genius he was, and makes shooting my SVT-40 all that much more enjoyable.
No, back in the early 90's they were rather inexpensive, and not too hard to find in Shotgun News... It was the golden age of C&R collecting... Arg 7.62 FN-49, super mint Ljungman AG-42, cheap non-refurbished MAS 49/56, dirt cheap super nice M39's, WWII MAS 36, as new Colombian Madsen M47's, brand new Irish No. 4 Mk II Lee-Enfields... Plus many other I have (and pistols) were available, and so reasonable. I hope you find an SVT-40, enjoy all it has to offer, and a real shame of the import ban... Canada gets them, and can/could be had not long ago for around $500.
Thanks Sam. Currently as for US, WWII era I only have a really nice post war refurbed M1 carbine (Quality Hardware w/Winchester barrel. What a hoot to shoot, and a lot more accurate/effective than many give it credit for. My last "German" rifle I sold a few years back was an FN receiver Israeli K98 in 7.62. Will add, to many folks surprise one of my favorite, if not favorite WWII bolt rifle is my full mum Japanese Type 99. Absolutely love it, and it has so many innovations (some arguably not very practical) it really was better than I think many make it out to be. Although never used in WWII, the Swiss K-31 is a true masterpiece, and could be had for around $75 or so! I love mine, and marvel at how this could be a military rifle of such beauty, fitment, and execution. Good luck Sam in your quest for fine vintage military weapons.
Almost all the surviving M954 S/A rifles were kept at Fabrica de Itajubá (now IMBEL) until late 1980s when they were sold to Military Surplus dealers in USA. Very few remained in Brazil, unfortunately. Congratulations, very nice video.
Before moving on the the FN FAL, Brazil did use the FAL's predecessor, the FN49. The Brazilian Navy used a total of 11,001 FN49 rifles in .30-06, and one rifle in 7.62mm NATO. These rifles were marked with the Brazilian crest on the top of the receiver, and they also were marked with an anchor on the left side of the receiver.
Funny thing is we can't get anyting near a full-power semi-auto rifle here in Brazil, but you guys in the U.S have the oportunity to preserver our own history.
Welcome to País Das Putarias, here we don't know right from wrong and you gotta give us a lot of money, while at the same time we decide what you can do or not with your own life! Brazil, Country Of The Fuckery!
Você pode sim, mas tem que ser cac... Por que um civil normal não pode? Não sei, mas os burocratas acham que alguns são mais iguais que outros, então tem essa palhaçada.
Fun fact: the factory that produced this rifle also took 1894 Brazilian Mausers (pretty much 1893 Spanish Mausers) and converted them into 28 gauge and 410 shotguns. The 410 is quite fun to shoot.
Curious irony: A foreigner has access to a Brazilian weapon that not even the Brazilians had access to. Sad reality. However, excellent review, thanks.
What a cool piece, The fact this was done by a national armory and not some "gunsmith" in his shed is crazy to me since I used to own a rifle i bought at a shooting range several years ago that was similar to this being a G43 copy in 30-06, but mine had a fixed mag that was fed by 1903 springfield clips and the only marking was in english and done with a rotory tool, from memory it was "thirtee cal" or something i could barely read it... couldn't get it to work and i sold it after a few months
As a Brazilian and a lover of old weapons and this channel, this was really really nice to see today!!! And you made the pronunciation pretty right!!! haha Keep up the good work Gun Jesus!!! :)
Uma arma "brasileira" que nenhum brasileiro viu... mas que bom que parte da história está sendo preservada (infelizmente não aqui em terras brasileiras)
Brazilians went to Italy after Germany sank a handful of our civilian ships, then we got pissed off and demanded some action from the president at the time (Getulio Vargas), the brazilian expeditionary force conquered almost all south Italy and Sabaton even have a music about it, "smoking snakes". Churchill and newspapers used to say that is easier a snake to smoke then Brazil enter the war alongside of some racial insults, and we did it and became the smoking snakes.
Actually the Brazilian government didn't have interest in surplus material, they wanted to make something domestically and those probably were just prototypes made for troop trials, maybe after that they would make some changes for large scale production, but, it took some time to test, tool up and than the FAL offer came and it seems more reasonable, a newer selective fire rifle that they could produce domestically with assistance.
oh shit this was made literally not long ago, nice also, greetings from Brazil Ian, we know our part on WW2 wasn't that much if memorable at all but still, it makes my day to know someone like you researched about it and allowed the world to know, thank you
In Itajubá - Minas Gerais, we have an state owned guns company called IMBEL (Industria de Material Bélico), was there this rifle was made. And about the variation built here in Rio, I guess it was made in the Arsenal de Guerra do Rio de Janeiro (Rio de Janeiro War Arsenal...something like this...), there they build some guns until today...
I think the weird "new" serial number is due to the fact that Brazil still use some of these riffles for the conscripts in small cities. In these towns, we've got the "Tiro de Guerra" (Warshot) divisions, in which 18yr old dudes has to obligatory present themselves to the armed forces. Since they're not going to war at all, they can practice with 70 year old riffles.
The truth is that, at that time, we did not have the technological capacity to move forward with such a project. It was only after the program called 50 years in 5, implemented by President Kubitschek in the late 1950s (which, incredibly, worked), that we acquired a truly modern industrial complex, capable of manufacturing quality products.
I wonder if the 20 & 30 round BAR mags would work or work with some modification. If it can take BAR mags then a 30rnd 30-06 semi automatic rifle would be sweet and probably heavy.
I really don't know how Brazil fought against Germany. Back then we had a president Getúlio Vargas who was very simphatetic to Benito Mussolini, but nowadays we pretend it didn't happened. He is the guy who introduced gun control around here so nobody could overthrow him.
@@oldgoat8132 nah, most likely he did it to look like a martyr for the people and make them overlook his faults. he even shot in the heart so that his burial could be with an open casket
Actually the Mauser update that was made here in Brazil was the M964 not M954, this updated Mauser was a training rifle made to use the 7.62x51 cartridge, had a FAL style muzzle, and G3 style front sight, this was made for logistics so everyone used the same ammunition.
Reminds me of when the Egyptians made the AG-42 in 7.92x57mm. They may have run into the same problems Uncle did trying to copy the MG-42 in .30-06, by the time they got things going, better arms were already available so they cut their losses and quit while they were ahead.
Itajubá é uma cidade do estado de Minas gerais- Brasil. Essa empresa fabricou vários tipos de rifles. Eu fico muito feliz de ver no seu canal um rifle de fabricação brasileira.
Itajubá it's a city in the State of Minas Gerais. IMBEL -Itajuba has produced various types of rifles. I'm very happy to see a Brazilian rifle in this chanel
Translation: "Itajubá is a city in the state of Minas Gerais - Brazil. That company manufactured many models of rifles. It makes me very happy to see a Brazilian-produced rifle in your channel."
Brazil was kind of late to adopting an auto loader. By the time they finally got around to ditching the Mauser rifle, the US had already adopted the M16 and it’s 5.56 Cartridge and everybody else already had an auto loader chambered in 7.62 NATO or 7.62x39.
Bolt actions are obsolete but what about autoloaders? Or even early automatic designs like a chauchat or better the BAR. Not saying they'd take first place but I wonder if it would be close.
How did I miss this video before!? As always, excellent content. Plus must add "hmmmm...late war German weapon designs turning up in south america afterwards...funny that 🤔"
@@ScottKenny1978 I suppose so. I guess if you have a die or some form to help get it to rough shape, those curves on the top do seem to be formed from something other than a hammer face. Would allow a factory to produce complex shit faster than just mill without the need for full casting tooling.
I really didn't knew about the existence of this rifle, even tho I live very close to Itajuba.. The last 20-25 years have been pretty rough when it comes to firearm laws and unfortunately pieces of our own history have been overlooked by the new generations. Thank you for keeping our history alive, even tho that should be my people's duty...
The period between 1946-1964 is very confuse in development's history of small arms here in Brazil. The receivig of material in .30-06 and new ideas about a common pattern, made the Army thinks about the replacement of 7x57mm for .30, but it actually never happened. The M954's (this and the bolt actions) and the FN-49 was just small numbers, mixed close-to-trial orders, never fitting the Armed Forces in a effective percentage. Although is said that .30 replaced the 7mm, the 7mm still as practical caliber in all Forces, even in police units, until his true replacement for the 7.62x51 starting in mid-60's.
0:30 It's already rare to see brazilian firearms in this channel, to see this one was manufactured on the city I live brings a smile to my face
Itajuba is the centre of Imbel rifle works.
The itajuba guns factory actually made a very big part of the Brazilian armament, as i served last year, i still see some FAL and PARA-FAL, with a couple of bolt action mosquetão made by the factory of itajuba
I'm currently living in São Caetano do Sul and there's an Imbel representant 5 min walk away from my apartment. São Caetano do Sul na rua Nazaret, pode procurar no Google Maps. Eu sou tão feliz aqui....
Itajuba, proudly the home of UNIFEI. Anyway, I was quite surprised when I realized that Imbel had a factory not that far from the university.
@@Pommezul Not a factory, but if you google it, type the address R. Maceió, 607, CEP 09551-030. They represent IMBEL on most of their sales and they're excellent! Awesome work. If you live around here you can come and check their drills and I believe they can do the paperwork for you to carry or own a pistol with no hassle.
I am Brazilian and I confess that I had no idea of the existence of such a weapon. I was an Air Force military in the 1980s and what we had was the famous Kar 98 for ceremonial purposes (with original markings from Germany, Czech and the Brazilian production of the same), the HK 33, the Air Force's standard assault rifle, and the FAL, used by the Brazilian Army, in addition to other weapons ... but I never heard of this national version of the G43 ... impressive !!!
The Mosquefal? I used that last year in the TG.
@@GunsNGames1 Yes, there was Mosquefal but in FAB we never used it!
@@cbcarneiro1 I fired some rounds off that thing, pretty accurate, although I got a little confused with that drum rear sight.
Tambem não conhcia esta arma na versao brasileira
@@jorgeaquino3652 Verdadeira surpresa.
Mosquetão literally means "big musket", gives an insight on how things were looked at back then
As a brazilian, it isn't uncommon to hear that word, even today, as a generic term for shotgun or hunting rifle
@@PedroHenrique-dh3bq nunca cheguei a ouvir mosquetão, geralmente só espingarda ou mosquete
@@karmotrine9180 aqui na região que eu moro, no RS, é comum. Na verdade "mosqueton" vindo de colono
As a Brazilian, I can confirm that the vast majority of the people is very ignorant when talking about firearms, and the anti-gun mentality of the past governments only made things worse.
Pessoal conhece o tal do Mosquefal aqui, e usam para treinamento.
So it's a rifle based on a German design, chambered in a American caliber, built with a manufacturing philosophy fit for a Russian weapon...geez that's a mix.
A Brazilian rifle copied from a German rifle based on a Soviet rifle chambered in an American cartridge built with a manufacturing philosophy fit for a Pakistani rifle seems more fitting.
@@janwacawik7432 true, true
Mr. Worldwide
That's Brazil for you, pure mixing of everything.
Brazil: the most diverse country with culture.
Brazil: the most diverse country with firearms too.
I love Brazil.
"Mom can we get a Gewehr 43?"
"We have a Gewehr 43 at home."
*The Gewehr 43 at home*
nice
The bolt carrier, the rear sight block, and other parts were Investment Cast ( lost wax process) NOT Forged! In both the G/K 43, And the M954!!!.
An effective manufacturing system ( less machining) and similar strenght to forging and milling;--- less cost producing part both on small runs ( no costly hot forging dies) and easily reproducible in large production
( c/f TRW M14s, investment castbolts and receivers.) Ruger developedboth aircraft parts and guns by IC in 1950s, to greater success and finish than early German processes.
DocAV
G43-06
My psychologist:
the G43 garand doesn't exist
The G43 grand:
Gewehr Garand 43 doesn't exist, it can't hurt you.
Gewehr Garand 43:
Grand Garand
It can't be a G43 Garand, because the 2 guns use different systems. The .30-06 cartridge was used by other guns, not just the Garand.
@@anzaca1 you must be fun at parties mate
Somos brasileiros.....gostamos de modificar as coisas ao nosso jeito......desta vez passou os limites(we are Brazilians ......we like a modify the things for us .......This time......we turne all limits
"Safe" and "Fire" fits with portuguese "Seguro" and "Fogo", thats why the markings of the safety match 👍
Nao se usa o termo "seguro" nas armas, a correta traduçao de "safe" é trava
@@isaacdepaula2103 antigamente tambem?
@@MindBodySoulOk Aparentemente ss, ñ sei se as nomeclaturas mudaram (sei q mtas tecnicas ss) mas as nomeclaturas n sei
Mas a forma correta de se referir a safe nesse caso é "trava"
"safe on"=travado
@@MindBodySoulOk opa BR no canal do ian
Obrigado pela correção 👍
Ian: *Mosquetão Semi-Automàtico*
Me, an intellectual: Damn, Brazil has semi-automatic mosquitos? What next, Italian Auto Malaria?
Bahaha. Let me guess, pinoy?
Hahahaha Mosquetão means literally big musket. Mosquito in portuguese is mosquito haha
Mosquitos in Portuguese is "mosquitos". The name "O Mosquetão Semi-Automático" literaly means: "The Semi-Automatic Big Mosket".
@@tyranomu it's a joke it's a jOKE IT'S A JO-
Linguagem informar brasileira é difícil de entender, 😆😆😆
With the G43 being infamously overgassed, I wonder if the problems the Brazilians had were due to _not_ wanting to overgas the system
@Adam Halsey better safe than sorry xD
@Adam Halsey lmao thank you for your comment.
Adam Halsey I’m going to hell, I laughed.😞
Adam Halsey these days, it’s the sjws that want to gas people, they just don’t know it yet.😑
What I don't get, is why would they chose to make a modified version of an inferior design to the Garand, in the same caliber as the Garand, and yet they could have simply accepted/purchased Garands from the United States?
“Well, how this thing happened?”
Yeah... I have the same question
Brazil got sloppy seconds in 1954, tried to make its own battle rifle, failed miserably. Ten years later, we embraced the FAL.
André Luiz Almeida Diniz like all of us did, glory to the FAL
@@MagronesBR2 and finally the locally produced FALs had decent quality.
@@GunsNGames1 praise de INDUSTRIA DE MATERIAIS BÉLICOS (Imbel). Taurus ain't pigeon shit near those guys.
Brazil had a lack of semi and full auto weapons in the 1940s. So the BR troops in Italy took a whole bunch of semi and full auto weapons from German stocks back home, as ordered. The G43s were used to make this.
During my mandatory service last year, I trained in a small countryside military base also know as TG. We had a modified version of the Gewehr 98, it was converted to fire 7.62x51mm, had a FN FAL barrel and muzzle break, and G3 iron sights. But I never knew this one existed! Great video!
Ps: I trained with that gun because TGs are more like a tradition, only in capitals and bigger towns there are "real" military bases were they train with assault rifles, stay weeks in the barracks and have proper training, the only reason TGs exist it's because the mandatory service law.
That's EXACTLY what i was thinking when i see a mosquetão for the first time, and the PARA-FAL actually is a Frankenstein weapon too! Basically has almost all of the features of an m4 but without the forward assist, its a bitch when it jams, you literally has to kick the fucking bolt handle in order to eject the malfunctioning cartridge, my tenente almost lost his middle finger because of this
Sounds hideously beautiful. I want ten of them!
@@Авасн the handle is a bitch alright, during training my colleague managed to break the handle off while trying hammer it backwards, I never saw four tenentes going berserk at the same time
This comment section resumes brazilian firearms in a nutshell. I can say that because I am brazilian myself, and know the reliability issues some of our guns have. That's why the IA2 was developed. However, it will take some years until the whole army is equipped with it.
@@DemoralizedMan KKKKK yeah that shit is fucked up, but hey c'mon how can he managed that? Such a bizonho man, as my sargento PQD once said: "recruta tem mão sexual, tudo que toca, fode!"
Ha! I know this rifle. 20 years ago when I was a reenactor I collected gG43 and K43. At the time I entertained the idea about what it would take to restock these as G43 for reenactors. Thank for producing a clip on this. I thought that I was the only person in North America that had a clue about about these Brasilia Gewehrs. 😀👍
Pretty neat guns
You should try to find a "MosqueFAL" a brazilian made bolt action rifle wiith the insides of a FAL and G3 sights
Fui pesquisar no Google e tive uma depressão súbita. Puta que o pariu, que Frankenstein é esse kkkkkk
Someone, somewhere is going to mount this thing over their fireplace.
They'll have guests over and they'll look at it and say:
"Is that a G43? Cool!"
"No it's a Mosquetão Semi-Automático M954"
"Say wha-?"
G43 video - originally aired years ago on Forgotten Weapons: "I can't recall someone copying a G43 mechanism ever made."
The Mosquetão Semi-Automático M954: "Am I a joke to you?"
The more you know. Prost!
Brazil: hold my beer
@@GunsNGames1 hold my latinha de skol
"Well, yes. Yes you are."
@@ricardoricardo833 lol also hold my cachaça
I shot one of those while my mandatory 1 year tour in 2010 when I was 18. They had one still working in the warehouse for us to train at the firing range. This rifle is remarkably accurate, simple and functional design, and really fun to shoot. I miss the Army.
Onde você serviu, parceiro?
@@zumbimaluco São Paulo Capital irmão. E você?
@@PerturaBased se você tem menos de 18, segue pro Tiro amigo. Eu tava cagando na calça, nao queria ser escolhido pra ser sincero HAHAHA Mas foi tudo uma experiência maravilhosa. Porém creio eu que, dependendo da sua unidade, você vai ter acesso à FAL e se você tiver "sorte" (azar), a MosqueFAL também! Brasil é minha vida e eu vou proteger meu povo igual eu protejo minha vida. Amém irmãos!
@@PerturaBased (AVISO leia apenas 1o paragráfo para informaçoes.)
(O resto é nostalgia e história chatas)
Voce ainda pode ter menos que 24 anos para se alistar novamente, se não me engano, mas aqui é em um complexo de alistamento no PoupaTempo/Atende Fácil. Dá uma olhada no site de recruta do Exército.
Eu desisti da minha carreira militar porque eu entrei na faculdade... no 2o ano da facul (2014) eu ganhei um contrato absurdamente maravilhoso pela CAPES e o programa Ciência Sem Fronteiras. Eu morei em Ohio... mas a melhor parte foi que o meu professor mais amigo é veterano do Afeganistão e especialista em guerra biológica (que tá fazendo uma moral boa nessa pandemia do COVID) ele me ensinou DEMAIS. Ele viu meu potencial e a gente virou amigo, aí um dia perto de Set/Out de 2014 ele dirigiu a gente pra visitar a fábrica da Ohio Ordnance em Chardon e esse pessoal é tudo sobre armas clássicas em 30-06. Eu atirei tanto nessa experiencia, aprendi a montar e desmontar e dar um geral sobre a engenharia bélica de uma arma de fogo, eu fico nostálgico só de contar.
Damn, and all I got was a goddamn bolt action.
Ah, the "Boys from Brazil" strike again...
Deixa os menino brincar !
*you're going to Brazil*
As a Brazilian, and a great fan of this channel, I feel ashamed of 2 things:
1 - I've just noticed I wasn't a subscriber
2 - This video is 3 years old, and I had never seen it
Fantastic video, as always. What I've been told about / have read about the M954, the odd thing of producing a G43 well after WWII, was that the arms factory of Itajubá had mainly german tooling from the 30s - Brazil had quite close relations with Germany during the 1930s. As with many countries worldwide, we had our democratic turbulences after 1929 and a dictatorship installed. That brought a lot of German industrial stuff to Brazil. As stop-gap, interim solution, it might have seemed more practical to hastily produce G43s.
US military doctrines also were very new to us, as it was the French that influenced the Brazilian military since the early 20th century.
A while ago, I worked for Mercedes-Benz ( Australia ), and we got parts in from both Germany and Brazil. You could always tell where the castings and forgings originated from, the German ones had an excellent surface finish and were precise. The same could not be said for the parts from Brazil, sure, they fitted , and sometimes even worked as good as the German parts, but they were as rough as guts and gave us a lot of headaches.
our philosofy isn't precision but rather "if it works then all is good"
Brazil has a deep problem with industrialization. we kinda just dont do it.
A complete lack of formal education is to blame for that. A lot of machinists get to start early as shop apprendices and either never get a formal certification course before starting professional work or they DO start classes but abandon them as soon as they think they had learned "enough" to start working.
Fault of the factory in Brazil or quality control in Australia? If it wasn't the factory building the car, they probably didn't even know about this problem.
3:48 my grandfather and great grandfather both worked on that factory for many years.
I've been a machinist for over 30 years and the finish on the forgings makes me want to go and slap someone.
As another 30+ year toolmaker, never waste time on a surface that don't matter. Time is money.
Doesn't it almost look more like it was cast then machined rather than forged?
@@mhans928 Forgings can look like that right from bar stock. The forging dies weren't all that well made it appears.
@@ringding1000 It looks like the exterior surfaces that might present a clearance or cut hazard have been roughly linished or knocked back with a grinding wheel.
Same here. I've only been machining for ten years but it still makes me cringe. They couldn't take half an hour to polish that!?
3:41 Feita em Minas na Imbel, fábrica aqui de Itajubá-MG
Ian, i live in brazil itajubá, The fabrica de itajubá became now IMBEL (Industria de Material Belico do Brasil), cool to see history of my city! Also, the FN FAL still in service in Brazil. Also Itajubá has a Army outpost, 4º battalion of combat engineering, which still uses the FN FAL.
I love to see Ian saying “Mosquetão Semi Automático”
Greetings from Brazil!
"Must-keep-tall"
Gotta love how much Tokarev influence is seen here, and on the G43... Not just the gas piston system, but even fluted chambers... What a genius he was, and makes shooting my SVT-40 all that much more enjoyable.
Was your SVT expensive/hard to find? I'd love to own one some day.
No, back in the early 90's they were rather inexpensive, and not too hard to find in Shotgun News... It was the golden age of C&R collecting... Arg 7.62 FN-49, super mint Ljungman AG-42, cheap non-refurbished MAS 49/56, dirt cheap super nice M39's, WWII MAS 36, as new Colombian Madsen M47's, brand new Irish No. 4 Mk II Lee-Enfields... Plus many other I have (and pistols) were available, and so reasonable.
I hope you find an SVT-40, enjoy all it has to offer, and a real shame of the import ban... Canada gets them, and can/could be had not long ago for around $500.
@@JF-xq6fr sounds nice. Do you have any other WW2 guns like the SVT? I'd love to own a genuine K98k as well.
Thanks Sam. Currently as for US, WWII era I only have a really nice post war refurbed M1 carbine (Quality Hardware w/Winchester barrel. What a hoot to shoot, and a lot more accurate/effective than many give it credit for. My last "German" rifle I sold a few years back was an FN receiver Israeli K98 in 7.62.
Will add, to many folks surprise one of my favorite, if not favorite WWII bolt rifle is my full mum Japanese Type 99. Absolutely love it, and it has so many innovations (some arguably not very practical) it really was better than I think many make it out to be. Although never used in WWII, the Swiss K-31 is a true masterpiece, and could be had for around $75 or so! I love mine, and marvel at how this could be a military rifle of such beauty, fitment, and execution. Good luck Sam in your quest for fine vintage military weapons.
In canada now theyre around 700-900$
Almost all the surviving M954 S/A rifles were kept at Fabrica de Itajubá (now IMBEL) until late 1980s when they were sold to Military Surplus dealers in USA. Very few remained in Brazil, unfortunately.
Congratulations, very nice video.
Before moving on the the FN FAL, Brazil did use the FAL's predecessor, the FN49. The Brazilian Navy used a total of 11,001 FN49 rifles in .30-06, and one rifle in 7.62mm NATO. These rifles were marked with the Brazilian crest on the top of the receiver, and they also were marked with an anchor on the left side of the receiver.
Funny thing is we can't get anyting near a full-power semi-auto rifle here in Brazil, but you guys in the U.S have the oportunity to preserver our own history.
Welcome to País Das Putarias, here we don't know right from wrong and you gotta give us a lot of money, while at the same time we decide what you can do or not with your own life! Brazil, Country Of The Fuckery!
Você pode sim, mas tem que ser cac... Por que um civil normal não pode? Não sei, mas os burocratas acham que alguns são mais iguais que outros, então tem essa palhaçada.
I am from Brazil and I am very happy to have used our used weapons.
PS: My grandfather was from the Brazilian Expeditionary Force (FEB).
COBRAS FUMANTES ETERNA É SUA VITÓRIA!
🇧🇷🐍🚬
Fun fact: the factory that produced this rifle also took 1894 Brazilian Mausers (pretty much 1893 Spanish Mausers) and converted them into 28 gauge and 410 shotguns. The 410 is quite fun to shoot.
The way he said "mosquetão semi-automático"...
simply perfect lol
"musquetal semi automaticou"
Your language is hard to pronounce, even for us spanish speakers.
@@davell1078 Funny thing: while we do understand when Speanish-speakers talk to us, the some is not true when we speak to you guys.
@@filipeamaral216 uh no, we do understand most of what you guys say, at least brazilian accent. Portuguese accent is a bit harder to get.
@@davell1078 even for us brazilians is hard to understand what portuguese people say
Curious irony: A foreigner has access to a Brazilian weapon that not even the Brazilians had access to. Sad reality. However, excellent review, thanks.
Not only Brasilian...
Dude, you have a lot of Brazilians followers.... 😂😂😂
Over 50% of his followers are outside the US.
And the brazilian flag and word are the best way to spawn brazilians
;)
Hue Hue Hue Br Br Br !
Bah, começou a roda de Samba ! Passem o chimarrão.
Can't wait for you to review the Indian INSAS rifle one day. A great many questions will be asked that day.
@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine It's not Chinese.
@@0neDoomedSpaceMarineSounds like you're familiar with Cholera lol. Up close haha.
Ian: Brazilian expeditionary force.
Me: Cobras Fumantes, eterna é sua vitória!
Smoking Cobras? Surely not...
Fãs de sabaton aleatórios
Quem serviu nunca esquece a canção deles, uma vez tivemos que fazer 150 cópias dela pro Sgt. kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
@@MsRiqueman nossa, militares sabem escrever????
que vitoria? chutar cachorro morto não é vitoria, foram lá passar vergonha na italia pro brasil ganhar uma metalurgica
pqp hein
What a cool piece, The fact this was done by a national armory and not some "gunsmith" in his shed is crazy to me since I used to own a rifle i bought at a shooting range several years ago that was similar to this being a G43 copy in 30-06, but mine had a fixed mag that was fed by 1903 springfield clips and the only marking was in english and done with a rotory tool, from memory it was "thirtee cal" or something i could barely read it... couldn't get it to work and i sold it after a few months
As a Brazilian and a lover of old weapons and this channel, this was really really nice to see today!!! And you made the pronunciation pretty right!!! haha Keep up the good work Gun Jesus!!! :)
Uma arma "brasileira" que nenhum brasileiro viu... mas que bom que parte da história está sendo preservada (infelizmente não aqui em terras brasileiras)
Man I want that thing more than I’m willing to admit . That handguard profile combined with it being .30-06 makes it perfect
Brazilians went to Italy after Germany sank a handful of our civilian ships, then we got pissed off and demanded some action from the president at the time (Getulio Vargas), the brazilian expeditionary force conquered almost all south Italy and Sabaton even have a music about it, "smoking snakes". Churchill and newspapers used to say that is easier a snake to smoke then Brazil enter the war alongside of some racial insults, and we did it and became the smoking snakes.
You almost nailed.
Hugs from Brazil.
Brazil did have M1 Garand rifles and converted some to 7.62x51mm using FAL magazines.
I remember Ian mentioned in his blog a mexican version of the StG44 made by Mendoza, maybe one day it appears here or the argentinean version.
It's always interesting to see weapons made here in Brazil, even more so when they are pretty much unheard of
Actually the Brazilian government didn't have interest in surplus material, they wanted to make something domestically and those probably were just prototypes made for troop trials, maybe after that they would make some changes for large scale production, but, it took some time to test, tool up and than the FAL offer came and it seems more reasonable, a newer selective fire rifle that they could produce domestically with assistance.
oh shit this was made literally not long ago, nice
also, greetings from Brazil Ian, we know our part on WW2 wasn't that much if memorable at all but still, it makes my day to know someone like you researched about it and allowed the world to know, thank you
Me: Mom can we have G43?
Mom: No, we have G43 at home.
G43 at home:
Gotta love the unfinished, rough and raw work on those parts.
I have a soft spot for Brazilian-manufactured weapons. They had a lot of neat ideas. Not necessarily good ideas, but they're definitely interesting :P
Yeah sure the rifles neat and all but what I wanna know about is where that incredibly cozy looking sweater came from!
In Itajubá - Minas Gerais, we have an state owned guns company called IMBEL (Industria de Material Bélico), was there this rifle was made. And about the variation built here in Rio, I guess it was made in the Arsenal de Guerra do Rio de Janeiro (Rio de Janeiro War Arsenal...something like this...), there they build some guns until today...
wondering if these are also rather overgassed just like the original...? With 30-06 it might be even more of a problem
The brother of M954 is the Gewehr 43.
We use the mauser mosquefal in 7.62x51 for training and the Fal is the service rifle
I think the weird "new" serial number is due to the fact that Brazil still use some of these riffles for the conscripts in small cities. In these towns, we've got the "Tiro de Guerra" (Warshot) divisions, in which 18yr old dudes has to obligatory present themselves to the armed forces. Since they're not going to war at all, they can practice with 70 year old riffles.
The truth is that, at that time, we did not have the technological capacity to move forward with such a project. It was only after the program called 50 years in 5, implemented by President Kubitschek in the late 1950s (which, incredibly, worked), that we acquired a truly modern industrial complex, capable of manufacturing quality products.
Even the Brazilians did not bother to polish the rough finnish. It honestly looks badass like that.. interesting
Thank you , Ian .
Fogo & Seguro
As a brazilian, the only thing I can say about this video is :
Boa carai
Last time I was this early Horus was still warmaster
Last time i was this early lorgar was still writing his dumb book
Last time I was this early the emperor still preached the [REDACTED]
[USER EXECUTED FOR HERESY]
I remember using one of those during the war against the men of Iron.
I understand these references!
Last time I was this early my squad was still alive.
I wonder if the 20 & 30 round BAR mags would work or work with some modification. If it can take BAR mags then a 30rnd 30-06 semi automatic rifle would be sweet and probably heavy.
Oh my favorite channel speaking about a gun used in my country in the past...THIS IS BRAZIL CARALEA!! 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
The way you talk brazilian words is priceless
*Portuguese
@@GunsNGames1 eu sei que é em português, n queria confundir as pessoas entre português BR e português PT
@@hohan9233 Eu quero ver o Ian tentar falar português de Portugal
Quite a find! A G43 in 30-ought would be quite handy.
If I'm not wrong, Brasil still uses the mosquetão as a training rifle, Just not sure which one
your pronunciation was pretty good, great video as always
@Alvaro Higino já viu a pronúncia de outros americanos? Kkk ficou muito boa até
I really don't know how Brazil fought against Germany. Back then we had a president Getúlio Vargas who was very simphatetic to Benito Mussolini, but nowadays we pretend it didn't happened. He is the guy who introduced gun control around here so nobody could overthrow him.
as far as i can tell, USA gave us a lot of money to do it
@@gicotraina maybe that was the reason. Probably also the reason why Getúlio shot himself, he fought against what he which to implant on Brazil.
@@oldgoat8132 nah, most likely he did it to look like a martyr for the people and make them overlook his faults. he even shot in the heart so that his burial could be with an open casket
@@luansagara unfortunately it worked, people especially boomers worship him and his facist "Carta del lalvoro"
Good Lord, the porosity in that casting terrifies me.
Actually the Mauser update that was made here in Brazil was the M964 not M954, this updated Mauser was a training rifle made to use the 7.62x51 cartridge, had a FAL style muzzle, and G3 style front sight, this was made for logistics so everyone used the same ammunition.
So cool! Every time you show up with some awesome stuff to show and teach!
Reminds me of when the Egyptians made the AG-42 in 7.92x57mm. They may have run into the same problems Uncle did trying to copy the MG-42 in .30-06, by the time they got things going, better arms were already available so they cut their losses and quit while they were ahead.
your pronunciation was good :) (love your videos btw, helps me to improve my english)
Itajubá é uma cidade do estado de Minas gerais- Brasil. Essa empresa fabricou vários tipos de rifles. Eu fico muito feliz de ver no seu canal um rifle de fabricação brasileira.
Itajubá it's a city in the State of Minas Gerais. IMBEL -Itajuba has produced various types of rifles. I'm very happy to see a Brazilian rifle in this chanel
Translation:
"Itajubá is a city in the state of Minas Gerais - Brazil. That company manufactured many models of rifles. It makes me very happy to see a Brazilian-produced rifle in your channel."
Wow. The way that receiver looks must have surely inspired a lot of confidence in the gun's users. :D
COME TO BRASIL 🇧🇷
Brazil was kind of late to adopting an auto loader. By the time they finally got around to ditching the Mauser rifle, the US had already adopted the M16 and it’s 5.56 Cartridge and everybody else already had an auto loader chambered in 7.62 NATO or 7.62x39.
thats because by the time we adopted the FN FAL we had defacto replaced the bolt actions with the large quantities of M1 Garands we had.
Good research. Good information about brazilian History.
Please, come to Brazil!
Aí sim
I have one of the M954 bolt actions. Very nice rifle for Brazilian manufacturing of the time.
Bolt actions are obsolete but what about autoloaders? Or even early automatic designs like a chauchat or better the BAR. Not saying they'd take first place but I wonder if it would be close.
How did I miss this video before!?
As always, excellent content.
Plus must add "hmmmm...late war German weapon designs turning up in south america afterwards...funny that 🤔"
I actually like the rough metal. Reminds me of post apocalyptic FPS DIY guns
You should try the imbel ia2 someday mate
Hey Gun Jesus!!! Come to Brazil to review our Bootleg guns!!!
I live in the city where they were produced... it always amazes me when i remember that i live near a gun factory.
You should do a review on the fbp portuguese smg
Where can I get that sweater!?
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@@ForgottenWeapons obridgato ian.
Greetings from Brazil
Que honra
Brazil also adopted the FN 49 in .30-06
Sooo is it possible to modify a BAR magazine for this?
Greetings from Itajubá !
Gesundheit!
Sou brasileiro sou muito fã do seu canal:)
Are you sure that bolt carrier wasnt a casting? It looked like a rough-ass casting to me.
The bolt carrier was forged? Not cast? So they hammer shaped them and then milled the rails? Wow.
I thought the same thing. He keeps saying forged but I figured he meant cast.
Pretty common, actually. Easy to get close to shape, and reduces time needed on the mill.
@@ScottKenny1978 I suppose so. I guess if you have a die or some form to help get it to rough shape, those curves on the top do seem to be formed from something other than a hammer face. Would allow a factory to produce complex shit faster than just mill without the need for full casting tooling.
I really didn't knew about the existence of this rifle, even tho I live very close to Itajuba.. The last 20-25 years have been pretty rough when it comes to firearm laws and unfortunately pieces of our own history have been overlooked by the new generations. Thank you for keeping our history alive, even tho that should be my people's duty...
"Today we're looking at a rifle that, but time you see this video, would have already sold".
So, Karl bought it?
Please make a video about the M968 Mosquefal
The period between 1946-1964 is very confuse in development's history of small arms here in Brazil. The receivig of material in .30-06 and new ideas about a common pattern, made the Army thinks about the replacement of 7x57mm for .30, but it actually never happened. The M954's (this and the bolt actions) and the FN-49 was just small numbers, mixed close-to-trial orders, never fitting the Armed Forces in a effective percentage. Although is said that .30 replaced the 7mm, the 7mm still as practical caliber in all Forces, even in police units, until his true replacement for the 7.62x51 starting in mid-60's.