I often enjoy your videos but I feel you were wrong on this one. It came off very judgemental and almost hateful towards Draya. So what if she dated the whole town before this is her man now, he knows her past he picked her. There is no one formula for finding a well to do partner, you can be the choir master at church or a stripper in a club, in your 20's or 30's. We need to stop judging women who dated multiple men and looking down on them, it's part of life clearly They're still doing something right because they can still get fine young men. Let Draya be, happy, not happy, They're two consenting adults who have done nothing wrong, leave them alone!
Joie Chavis being mad that her daughter just wants to be a kid is wild! Most parents want their kids to grow up slower and she’s trying to push her kid to work smh.
Sad man….clearly she wants to chill and be left alone. Then on top of that trying to shame the child for not being open to being all over the internet…mama is wrong for this.
Deadass she’s corny as hell for that she purposely trapped him. He’s my age I’m 22 bitch he almost 40. What the hell are you doing?🙄♈️ fuck wrong with these hoes🙄🙄
My heart goes out to Joie Chavis's daughter who at 12 has more discernment and maturity to know that especially at her age not everything needs to be on social media. And the fact that she is courageous enough to place boundaries on what she wants to put out in the world speaks volumes to the type of character she has developed outside of her parents. I pray that she has solid role models around her to maintain this discernment and maturity so that she is emotionally safe and physically safe from predators.
Letting her be a kid for probably the last time in her life as well having her privacy are good arguments, yes. The internet is already ripe with sad stories of children dragged by their parents with those toxic family vlogs, ugh!
I know weird comment, men older than her date women just out of high school with no life or dating experience and people just accept that. I think age gap relationships are super weird and wrong but Empressive obviously hates Draya cuz the attack is do unwarranted
Yall sound crazy as hell. She was answering the questions about Shia bc everyone says she acts like her father and just like him would be a child star. Idk she was pushing it for money. Her daughter is a star. ⭐️ so when parents put their kids in movies, tv modeling that’s okay right. And at the end she clearly said she is not forcing her. Yall women are just jealous 😂😂 So were zenday parents clout chaser Keke Palmer’s ?
@@QueenJanee-c5vto a certain degree i would say yeah? but given that their grown adults and still in the entertainment business, thats obviously their career choice. but that girl very clearly and obviously said she does not want to do it. and as a parent she should respect that.
@@nellyisidoro6844 and as a parent she DID! You do not see. Shai plastered anywhere and in the video joie even said she respected it. So back to the person comments. How is this giving emotional manipulation. Ppl get on this app and say anything. Like how is it disgusting that sees talent in her child and wants her child to be successful? That is what I was saying. No disrespect to you. It was the original comment
@@QueenJanee-c5v yes, Zendaya's parents were wrong to do what they did. But she just happened to be the one in a billion star. Putting your child into the Disney machine is a huge risk and gamble. Just ask Britney. I'm no one and if my child wanted to be a social media star or a movie star I'd say no. That's a decision they can make as an adult, but as a child the results are bad more often than they turn out a success for life
This is from last year! It was resolved and Shai went on to act in more films. Shai will be okay. Joie is a good mother. I don't agree with what she said but Shai will be okay.
She the parents who want to be best friends with her daughter so folks can say “I thought y’all was sisters” 🤣🤣 that’s the type of attention they want lol
These should think about the kinda women they are having kids with. This is why a lot of the kids with famous parents either ain’t right within themselves. Or they distant themselves from their parents!
Joie’s daughter showing more mental & emotional stability than her parents is no one but God looking out for her. I pray she forges her own path and has a bright future outside of that industry
Her daughter said she doesn’t want to act anymore when she had been acting. Maybe she was excited about her daughter becoming successful in that. Not that her daughter can’t do something else!
It’s so sad how she making fun of her daughter basically, because her daughter is literally telling her that she WANTS TO BE A KID…and she basically admits she just WANTS HER DAUGHTER TO MAKE HER MONEY
Nobody trapped that young man. EVERYONE knows the result of shooting up the club. I am so sick of people acting like men are not as equally apart of creating a child. wtf. He knew he got her pregnant before she took a pregnancy test.
Thank you! Literally it's not just the woman's fault. It takes two to make a baby and these men were choosing to not use protection. That is not just on the women!
Indeed, that path rarely leads to positive outcomes. Even if the child manages to achieve financial success, it often comes at the cost of their mental well-being and their relationships with others, including their parents.
That’s crazy but let’s not act like their no such thing as kids becoming stars. No one was mad at beyonces dad or Miley cirus or zendaya parents, etc… if your child is talented of course most parents SHOULD encourage their gifts. But she caught on that her daughter is not interested in fame and said she stopped pressuring her.
50 Cent girlfriend is the same age as his older son but nobody never talk about that it doesn't justify what Draya is doing but I think we pick and choose
I agree… but she knew what she was doing …she could have used protection … she wanted a NBA baby…. Never Broke Again… you know guys don’t think about protecting all they want is the 😸so she’s old enough to know better
@@SundayMorning1234-l2r There's nothinG wrong with wanting a bag though, only Blaq women have been brainwashed to fall for that "$$$ doesn't matter" bullshi#!! #GiveThisChickHerPropz 🤗
@@SundayMorning1234-l2r Why would she use protection IF she wants a bag?? Only Blaq women are brainwashed enough by Tyrones to fall for that "$$$ doesn't matter" bullshi#, but other races of women know better than that! 😄
She “trapped” him?! Are we seriously using this sexist language? Did he not know having sex can lead to pregnancy? Did he protect himself? He’s not 12 years old he’s a grown man. He knew the risk. This is the problem with infantilising men. He’s accountable.
That said. We all know young men, hell all men think with their small head, not the one above their shoulders. He is under 25, which means his brain isn't even fully formed. Let that sink in.... He will resent her and totally move on in the long run. Very nasty work Draya!
His brain hasn’t even fully developed… he has literally HALF the life experience of her so YEA she trapped him and I’m sure he thinks he “knows” what he’s doing but he’s very young. Imagine if the roles were reversed. I’m sure you wouldn’t say it’s sexist to say a 40 year old man preyed on a 21 year old girl 😒
This "trap him" narrative doesn't make sense to me. He may be 22 but he knows wtf is going on when it comes to sex education. Looks to me like two consenting adults decided to have a baby. 🤷🏽♀️
That’s correct. Two consenting adults lol… people are busy in their bed for no reasons. Why is the black community not educated on this topic? I got married at 19, I was not a child lol… A grown adult and still married at 40. I wish they would stop with the age gap outrage lol… I can tell the people who doesn’t have a passport to travel the world and see age gap marriages. Know the differences between that and predatory behavior.
Yea but come on. If your 35 and up yr old friend had a whole baby by a 22 yr old y'all wouldn't say nothing??! My son is 16 and when he turns 18 it don't mean women over 30 can date him just cuz he legal. No I don't agree. But he made his own choice. I just think it's not ok to be pushing 40 and having a baby by a 22 yr old. Same for men...just cuz she 18 don't mean she's capable of mentally dating a 40+ yr old man.
He trapped himself!!!..He knew what he was doing when he was doing it!!!...Y'all pass opinions on these rich folks like y'all turned water into wine!!.. Simmer down!!
Trapped him? Nah, he's grown and CHOSE to knock her up. MORALLY, we don't like it, legally, she ain't did nothing wrong. The selective outrage is actually disgusting. These young boys be CHASING older women.
What is your objective or point here? She's a senior, who is 40 years old. Using her womb for financial profit and gain, what does a 22 year old even know? His brain is still developing, she probably preyed and groomed that young boy. There's no selective outrage, wrong is wrong and what your internet idol did is gross. Is this what feminism has come to?
"Getting the bag at 12" That mother gives me the vibes of the parents who sold their children to R Kelly. Bow Wow needs to watch his daughter very closely. She's disgusting
She may have been a child who's parents also pimped her out. It's not uncommon in Hollywood for these folks to do that to their own seed. That place is just evil.
Disgusting that she tried to pressure her own young daughter to be exposed to million of strange men for some cash and clout. Proud of her daughter to fight back her.
This is from last year! It has been resolved and Shai went on to act in more films. I don't agree with what Joie said but she is a great mother! Shai will be okay...a lot of kids in the hollyweird act, dance and work in the business.
@@Kayla_Giirrl lolol but that wasn't the point. the girl said she didn't wanna do it. if a lot kids in LA jumped off a damn cliff, that doesn't mean she had to. and for what? her greedy ass mama? please.
People keep talking about her track record but the men she's been with have a track record 2x or even 3x hers. Worn out? How? This whole video was so sexist!
It's not really odd. There's a lot of moms like her. She just wants to teach her daughter to do the same things that she did to get money as opposed to going to college, getting an education and working hard and then becoming prosperous.
@@daisymae3332 it’s very odd not everyone has to be famous or be in front of a camera to make a good amount of money also considering the fact that her dad is bow wow she’ll be fine without needing to be famous she’s 12 and there’s nothing wrong with her just wanting to be a child first.
I find it interesting when older black women use the term “trap” as it relates to bw being impregnated. If a man impregnates you, how are you trapping him. He planted a baby in her, it would make more sense that he trapped her. How are men sudden victims after impregnating everyone?.?.
@@controlmyownlife8902 That boy is 22. Y'all acting like he's a 33 year old man that knows better. If this was a 22 yo woman y'all would swear she was a victim though.
And people talkin about trapping this dude probably jckd off to her gram way before he made it to the nba. Couldn’t believe his life when she started paying attention to him lmfao.
These men are not being trapped, they’re Willing participants. You get what you pay for. You want a better outcome Make better choices in the caliber of your partner you choose.
The criticism of Jalen and Draya's age gap is selective outrage that's fueled by double standards. Jalen is an adult that's over 21 and he probably pursued Draya. The same people criticizing Draya sit by quietly when men are actually dating underaged girls...which is a serious problem. Marcus Houston was 39 and married a 19 year old runaway who he had been dating since she was minor. Tyga was 24 when he publicly started dating 16 year old Kylie Jenner. John Mayor was 32 when he publicly dated Taylor Swift at 19. Where was the outrage and videos about the men who were actually doing illegal activity with minors?? But all of a sudden ppl are mad at a woman dating a grown man who is over 21. Smh.
There was definitely alot of controversy then about it. There's no way there wouldn't be. It's attitudes like this that give female predatory behavior a pass. Female predatory behavior is never taken as seriously as male predatory behavior. That's why you have female pedophiles becoming teachers now. They know that even if they get caught the punishment isn't as harsh as their male counterparts.
That’s so sad to hear Joie speak on her daughter as how she feels is invalid or wrong. She don’t realize how blessed she is to have a child with that mindset it todays society. That b is crazy fr.
exactly and what if her kid had a bad experience on set or something ...like its joie and bow wow job to provide for that little girl until she 18...at 18 she can still make the choice to what she wants to be
I cannot believe in this day and age women are still being accused of trapping people who are old enough to know how to make babies and make their own choices. This is wild.
Same here “I cannot believe in this day and age men are still being accused of trapping people who are old enough to know how to make babies and make their choices. This is wild.” 😆
That’s the truth. All these Brittany Renners and Draya Micheles trapped these young men. They are “obligated” to be involved in some ways in their lives financially.
Exactly! If anything they trapped each other. It’s not like he was pointed a gun on to sleep with her. Why do we blame most women but not too vocal on men.
She may not have "trapped" him but she definitely finessed and seduced him. Let's not act like the young boyz aren't intrigued by vintage vagina. But the fact that he is her sons age AND she had ties to his ex gf which makes it even fouler and morally wrong.
He’s exactly her son’s age. Her son is born in 2002and so is this basketball guy. It’s disturbing and she’s a predator. I’m 22 and can’t imagine dating anyone older than25. I feel bad for him 😮
When Scott disick was dating Sophia and she had was closer I’m age with his young children than to him there weren’t many outrage videos made on Scott and Poor Sophia is being taken advantage of
The ones defendin it are also down with it 🥴 it's giving desperation bc irl who really doin this if he didn't have any $ draya wouldn't have touched him
Trap is a wrong word. He chose that folly himself. Don't try to make us feel sorry for him. The one I feel sorry is the child that will come out of the relationship. Only existing because your momma wanted to secure the bag
She trapped him" lol as if he wasn't there during conception when she became pregnant. Ppl may not like her, and im not a fan, but she didn't trap that 22 year old man.
Next time a man does it, remember this. FYI he's still developing, she is 40 and has been around. She knew better he didn't and that's what we mean when we say she trapped him
@@mmakatlehoroelane4240 ain't y'all the same ninjas that pride y'allselves of knowing what you want. Now y'all victim lmaooo. Ok. U need to go talk to them grown men that hang around middle schools
@@alanamillione6592 what was the process of trapping him. Help me out. Was there like a booby trap set up like in home alone? Did she put something in his food? Tied him up in the basement? I wanna know
@@mmakatlehoroelane4240 lol naw naw, I'm sure his family and friends told him about unprotected sex and what can come from that, women, his level of success and making good decisions away from home. Men, especially black men learn there are consequences to every action.
Personally over 5 years is too much imho but jay didn’t have a daughter the same age as bey. At 12 years old he most likely could not be old enough to be her father Draya is old enough to be his mother, and not a “teen mom” but a fully grown woman. Her son is the same age as her baby daddy definitely not the same as bey and jayz
For a man to pull a 19 year old in his 30s, he has to put in mad work. It is not the same the other way around and there is no double standard. All Draya did to trap this simp was look good...men actually have to become something in life unless they're conventionally attractive to begin with. I'm 30 and women have never given me the time of day. I would never date a chick my own age after becoming financially stable. Strictly 18-25 for me.
That makes no sense 😂. A 39 year old woman has no business with a 22 year old fresh adult. He isn’t a victim but very immature and naive for that 😬, especially with the fact that he is same age as her SON and now they are all tied through this upcoming baby
@@smoothsavage2870 Reading is fundamental....take a great look at my comment again "It goes both ways" meaning BOTH MEN AND WOMEN....seeeee?? Do you see it now? Wanna borrow my glasses??
I never understand why women go after men extremely younger than them. Men in their 20s age are still maturing they don’t wanna settle down. However, I also don’t understand how men can date women and be extremely younger and get a past. You have men in other countries and also America are marrying girls 12 years old meanwhile they are damn near 50 where is the outrage?
so we're not putting any accountability on the men who made the decisions to lay down with these woman that could be their moms...... I think. everyone should mind the bed they lay in!
No adult can be “trapped” into impregnating someone, nor someone allowing themselves to become pregnant if you are taking proper precautions. Lust and being irresponsible are the reasons.
Jalen was a willing participant. He’s not a victim. He got played 😂😂😂Draya secured that bag because young man was blinded by $$ and ego. 10/10 Draya😂. When you lay with dogs, you wake up with fleas!
So we are ok with 18/21 years old going to war literally to die, having major responsibilities like driving putting their lives and others at risk, being able to have a working contrac, bank loans, able to affort a house, VOTE, etc but we draw the line when it comes to dating? 😂 I can't with the hypocrisy of this world...
@Hfgv281 all of those examples i gave are OPTIONAL (maybe not doing military service in some countries), so as an adult, you have the CHOICE given by law to do all that free of any legal consequence. If dating someone with a large age gap would be a problem, it wouldn't be legal by now. But since it makes no harm to ANYONE, the consenting ADULTS can engange into that without having to give any explanation. We have to understand the legal aspect in every situation and learn when morals don't equal = legality, especially when it is not our business.
This is nonsense. Homeboy is a grownman and knows exactly what he is doing. She hasn't trapped the man, he is having a kid. Only old people care about that crap.
@@tondaniraluswinga2590 because since men claim that we women HIT THE WALL 🧱 once we become older, men applaud each other when they THEMSELVES are older and with younger!!
@@tondaniraluswinga2590 it absolutely is celebrated, when a woman posts a pic with an old sugar daddy the comments are "get that bag sis!" "where can I get me one of those?" etc
She didn’t trap him. He’s a GROWN MAN and it takes two tango. He chose this! Leave this woman alone. They could be in love, stop using this archaic mindset.
I swear 😂😂😂😂 I just made a similar comment. Empressive is going IN! She's even using profanity... 😏.... But at the same time...its not surprising coming from Empressive.... iykyk...
He’s a grown man. What are y’all talking about? She doesn’t look old and he impregnated her. Why are you all blaming her as if he wasn’t privy to how making babies works lol😂
Let it be your 22 year old son who is making big money in the NBA! You know how much of a childlike state you were still in at 22 years old. Come on, it’s clear as day what she did to this young naive man. You must be just like her
But y’all love to paint younger wimmin who get with Diddy or Marcus Houston as victims? Those grown a$$ wimmin know what they’re doing. They’re not victims to Diddy or any other older bm or wm that they CHOOSE to be with. Those young wimmin chased those older bm and wm the same way y’all think they chased them. Keep the same energy pigeons.
When it’s reversed y’all play victims so keep the same energy. Y’all compare bm and bw every other time. Why not in this situation? Some of y’all bw ain’t ish.
@@quentinjones6877 Women don't want older men; they want resources and maturity which older men often have. If women find a mature younger man with money, they'll fight over him.
@minyangtangwan7046 not all older men have maturity though.same applies to women.But they date so this isn't awkward.There are numerous examples on the Internet
Demi Moore married Ashton Kutcher when she was 40 and he was 24... this isn't new... what happened to all the people saying that no 20 Year old wants a 40 year old woman
Comparing Draya to Marcus Houston is wicked work 😂😂 because we know she wasn’t tryna get this boy when he was 15! He didn’t runaway and popped up with her pregnant when he was 18 😂😂 if you hate women just say that lol
@@darienwilliams6070 She trapped him. Simple. There's a reason she deliberately went after a young dude that's getting $100s of millions. Because she knew he was an easy mark.
That Joie Chavez clip was shocking!! How can a parent feel such a way about their CHILD!! Good for their daughter for not caving to that pressure from both parents
People DO realize that it takes TWO people to create a baby, right? So why is everyone saying she trapped him? Granted, dude is MUCH younger, but he’s not a child. He has sense. He could have wrapped it up. I hate that the woman is always blamed for getting pregnant. BYE.
His a child she's the adult with her old ass. This boys brain hasn't even fully developed. She's the older one she's the one that should know better. Also, she has a son that's the same age as him. Please make it make sense! #dumbshit$
I am shocked at how Empressive made all these assumptions about her intentions and why she got pregnant with dude. I follow this channel because she mostly bases her opinions from facts rather than biased opinions. Ion like it.
Ppl too invested. He got her pregnant she didn't do it herself🤷🏾♀️ maybe he wanted that baby.... We don't know and it ain't our business. Neither of them was careful about it
Why does everybody have to be a hater when stating opinions? This is her 3rd baby daddy and he’s literally her son’s age. It’s one thing to have a lil fling but having his baby is on a whole other level of pathetic.
Why y’all care about men do? Do better. They get called out all the time for the foolishness. This woman committed child endangerment for crying out loud.
@@smoothsavage2870 But when P diddy was 50 and dating Lori Harvey when she was 22, ppl were dragging HER but not HIM? Same when she was 23 and Future was about 37. Y'all drag the women regardless. Ppl only call the older man a creep if the younger adult girlfriend is nonblk.
@@jennywakeman3267 We judged P Diddy just as much as her. For one he was old AF and 2 he was messing with her right after his son was with her. Lori was judged because she is/was pretty much an industry pass around, while a lot of women praised her for that. We never judged her because she was with Diddy. To say otherwise it's just revisionist history.
when kids, especially young girls start to approach the preteen years… just getting up and looking all kinds of ways on cameras is not it anymore. they’re hitting a stage where they’re trying to find their identities and look presentable. her just wanting to be a kid is a blessing. the mom is delulu
You know Chris Evans is 16years older than his wife! Why isn’t he getting dragged? I feel like the women of minority would always get dragged into this more! This is sad!
Some young men really seek older women. I am on an online dating site and the young ones stay in my inbox, but I just feel like anything younger than 9 years is personally too young for me, BUT I ENJOY being flattered that my looks are up to par but I know they are not ready for a grown ssa woman.
I find it odd how the men in the comments are holding Jalen accountable for 🥜 in draya by his own accord. So why as women do we feel the need to coddle him and say he was trapped?
White women like Kristan Cavalry get praised for their age gap relationships but Draya is the villain? Y’all ppl on the internet weird af! I’m not a Draya fan by no means. And if we’re going ham on Draya let’s go ham on all the older men that do this ALL THE TIME!
Why are you making this a race thing? Draya is the worst case of streets girl. She left her own son home alone for days without proper food, dirty house... She's not a capable mother at all. The age gap is the smallest problem here.
LISTEN YALL, BLACK MALE ATHLETES ARE WELL KNOW DOGS! SO IF IT'S NOT DRAYA GETTING A BAG FROM THAT BOY, A YOUNGER GIRL WOULD HAVE. SO IT DON'T MATTER WHO GETS THE BAG FROM HIM. THOSE ATHLETES ARE THE REAL "PASS AROUNDS" IJS!
I love Empressive, but girl this vid is pure slander and sounds like big hater energy. I’m so sick of people shaming this woman as if this man was an innocent bystander and like men don’t do this sort of thing literally every second of the day. SMH the double standard is crazy. There is no mama out there telling their girls to find a broke man but when she looks for successful men she’s a gold digger?! Also this girl runs a very successful business for years and makes her own money. It may not be NBA money but she def has her own. Y’all just want to be mad at someone because it makes you feel better about your life smh
She’s deserves the flack. She got arrested for child endangerment. Women aren’t free from accountability. Let’s stop acting like we are. She’s too grown for these games. If she’s such a successful business owner she shouldn’t have had issues finding a man in her age bracket.
Empressive needs to stop being a pick-me. I notice that it's mostly bw crying about it more than bm. These women are too busy being their attack dogs. Draya, Joie, Brittany, and all the ww that Empressive chose not to mention that do the exact same thing towards rich bm are bm's preference, but most of the women complaining are not. So these women really need to calm down bcuz it's not going to stop these men from pursuing their preferences.
Empressive needs to stop being a mammy. I notice that it's mostly blk wmn crying about it more than blk men. These women are too busy being their attack dogs. Draya, Joie, Brittany, and all the ww that Empressive chose not to mention that do the exact same thing towards rich bm are bm's preference, but most of the women complaining are not. So these women really need to calm down because it's not going to stop these men from pursuing their preferences.
I got married at 19, I was not a child lol… A grown adult and still married at 40. I wish they would stop with the age gap outrage lol… I can tell the people who doesn’t have a passport to travel the world and see age gap marriages. Know the differences between that and predatory behavior
@@Happypotato917 They acting like she will be married to him and spend the rest of her life with him. She is a lustful woman who will he a single two time baby mother looking for her next victim. 😂
I feel bad for her kids. I wonder how her oldest son feels about this? Just like Marquise gets this energy so does draya. I see she turned those comments off on her pregnancy post😂😂😂😂 Three babies by three men🤷🏾♀️
If this were a woman, you would have been claiming that her frontotemporal lobe has not fully developed. You need to be real and use your head. This almost 40 year old women trapped this young man
We are coming after her because there is a very clear maturity gap in this situation. She knows how a 22 year old mind is because her son is around that age. That is absolutely DISGUSTING.
Getting to the bag??? SHES TWELVE and she’s begging to just be a kid. The fact that this is what people are starting to think of their kids is scary. It’s sad and scary for this little girl to beg to have a normal childhood and her mom think that’s a ridiculous concept
I am 45 with a 20 year old son. If I wasn't married I wouldn't dream of dating a man in his 30s even, much less the age of my child???? That's disgusting
I don’t date younger men but IF I WANT TO I WILL! That’s MY decision just like it’s yours… nobody gets a 🍪 because they have preferences 🤦🏽♀️I mostly get approached by younger men because they desire older women, lots of younger women looking for a bag, club, or a lick, some of these young men desire mature & stable.
I never leave a comment but sometimes when I see a video in my recommended I hope “maybe this won’t be an opinion pushed as the truth” but it’s every time somebody getting dogged like it’s the truth that man is GROWN and knew what he was doing it takes two to tango calling him young and dumb because you don’t agree with his choice of who to lay with is ridiculous
If an older man took advantage of a younger woman I would put the blame on that man, and so would everyone else. I keep the same energy all around
What’s understood doesn’t need to be explained! You are 100 % correct.👍🏽
But when Jay Z a 31 year date Beyoncé a 19 year nobody got a problem 🤷🏾♂️
But my thing is, if he as a grown man is not saying he was taken advantage of, who are you to say that was the case?
@@SNAG-td5tk That's actually very problematic
I often enjoy your videos but I feel you were wrong on this one. It came off very judgemental and almost hateful towards Draya. So what if she dated the whole town before this is her man now, he knows her past he picked her. There is no one formula for finding a well to do partner, you can be the choir master at church or a stripper in a club, in your 20's or 30's. We need to stop judging women who dated multiple men and looking down on them, it's part of life clearly They're still doing something right because they can still get fine young men. Let Draya be, happy, not happy, They're two consenting adults who have done nothing wrong, leave them alone!
Joie Chavis being mad that her daughter just wants to be a kid is wild! Most parents want their kids to grow up slower and she’s trying to push her kid to work smh.
My mouth fell open listening to her... that is horrible!
😮 right.. I was like: what kinda Shitaki is this 😅
Sad man….clearly she wants to chill and be left alone. Then on top of that trying to shame the child for not being open to being all over the internet…mama is wrong for this.
That's so sad. She came online to complain about her own daughter wanting to be a child...poor baby
because she is making money off it
Idc if he's legal. Dating someone who is the same age as one of your kids is weird 😒
Man do it all the time
Deadass she’s corny as hell for that she purposely trapped him. He’s my age I’m 22 bitch he almost 40. What the hell are you doing?🙄♈️ fuck wrong with these hoes🙄🙄
@@Dontsay-i5b does that make it right? Asking for a friend
But when Jay Z a 31 year date Beyoncé a 19 year nobody got a problem 🤷🏾♂️
@memekb9749 Doesn't make it right either. Either way, it's gross.
My heart goes out to Joie Chavis's daughter who at 12 has more discernment and maturity to know that especially at her age not everything needs to be on social media. And the fact that she is courageous enough to place boundaries on what she wants to put out in the world speaks volumes to the type of character she has developed outside of her parents. I pray that she has solid role models around her to maintain this discernment and maturity so that she is emotionally safe and physically safe from predators.
The fact Joie daughter said she just wants to be a kid...she should be happy her daughter doesn't want to grow up too soon
Honestly the daughter sounds like she’s got more common sense than her. Sounds like they are opposite, which is a good thing in her case.
Letting her be a kid for probably the last time in her life as well having her privacy are good arguments, yes.
The internet is already ripe with sad stories of children dragged by their parents with those toxic family vlogs, ugh!
Right. This dummy
Men her age wouldn’t take her seriously because they are dating women in their 20s 😂😂
I know weird comment, men older than her date women just out of high school with no life or dating experience and people just accept that. I think age gap relationships are super weird and wrong but Empressive obviously hates Draya cuz the attack is do unwarranted
Facts
True
@@MyChannel-ul3tmdo u think men want women with dating and life experience ? Lmao
That’s true
Listening to Joie talk about her daughter wanting to be a child was disgusting. It's giving emotional manipulation.
Yall sound crazy as hell. She was answering the questions about Shia bc everyone says she acts like her father and just like him would be a child star. Idk she was pushing it for money. Her daughter is a star. ⭐️ so when parents put their kids in movies, tv modeling that’s okay right. And at the end she clearly said she is not forcing her. Yall women are just jealous 😂😂
So were zenday parents clout chaser
Keke Palmer’s ?
@@QueenJanee-c5vto a certain degree i would say yeah? but given that their grown adults and still in the entertainment business, thats obviously their career choice. but that girl very clearly and obviously said she does not want to do it. and as a parent she should respect that.
@@nellyisidoro6844 and as a parent she DID! You do not see. Shai plastered anywhere and in the video joie even said she respected it. So back to the person comments. How is this giving emotional manipulation. Ppl get on this app and say anything. Like how is it disgusting that sees talent in her child and wants her child to be successful? That is what I was saying. No disrespect to you. It was the original comment
@@QueenJanee-c5vshe clearly resents her daughter having a mind of her own.
@@QueenJanee-c5v yes, Zendaya's parents were wrong to do what they did. But she just happened to be the one in a billion star. Putting your child into the Disney machine is a huge risk and gamble. Just ask Britney.
I'm no one and if my child wanted to be a social media star or a movie star I'd say no. That's a decision they can make as an adult, but as a child the results are bad more often than they turn out a success for life
Joie rant about her daughter was DISGUSTING. She’s insufferable
Right
This is from last year! It was resolved and Shai went on to act in more films. Shai will be okay. Joie is a good mother. I don't agree with what she said but Shai will be okay.
Resolved orrrr she pressured her and her daughter caved ?@@Kayla_Giirrl
No she is not a good mother. @@Kayla_Giirrl
@@Kayla_Giirrl just because she gave in at 13 doesn’t mean she actually wants to do it
Joi being mad she can’t make money off her daughter is insane 😭 leave that baby alone
Complaining that your daughter's priority isn't creating content with you on TikTok is wild 🤨
She the parents who want to be best friends with her daughter so folks can say “I thought y’all was sisters” 🤣🤣 that’s the type of attention they want lol
Shai is more mature than her parents. She has boundaries and stands up for herself. I hope she grows up well dispite her upbringing.
Exactly, literally my heart broke when she was saying her daughter is 12 and needs to “get the bag”, literally sees her child with dollar signs
Exactly like she was literally irritated with her daughter for wanting to be a child. Smh very sad. Makes me very concerned about the poor baby. 😢
These should think about the kinda women they are having kids with. This is why a lot of the kids with famous parents either ain’t right within themselves. Or they distant themselves from their parents!
Joie’s daughter showing more mental & emotional stability than her parents is no one but God looking out for her. I pray she forges her own path and has a bright future outside of that industry
This 🎯
Literally
That baby is not trying to be a whore......makes you wonder who's the mom and who's the kid...well, apparently we already know this
a parent being mad that their child doesnt want to be all over the internet is truly confusing...
Her daughter said she doesn’t want to act anymore when she had been acting. Maybe she was excited about her daughter becoming successful in that. Not that her daughter can’t do something else!
A reflection of the times we are living in 😩
It’s so sad how she making fun of her daughter basically, because her daughter is literally telling her that she WANTS TO BE A KID…and she basically admits she just WANTS HER DAUGHTER TO MAKE HER MONEY
I think we would all be surprised by how much money these family channels make on displaying their children online.
Her kid is very very intelligent!!
Nobody trapped that young man. EVERYONE knows the result of shooting up the club. I am so sick of people acting like men are not as equally apart of creating a child. wtf. He knew he got her pregnant before she took a pregnancy test.
And lot of women dont take responsibility for also not getting knock up.
@@lilmac82some never ever take responsibility for what they put in their own 🐈⬛ let alone their mouth
@@lilmac82equally. the fact that you refuse the fact that the commentator said equally! it needs both a man and a woman
Thank you! Literally it's not just the woman's fault. It takes two to make a baby and these men were choosing to not use protection. That is not just on the women!
Joie Chavis is CRAZY, her daughter wants a relationship with her and she wants to cash in on it and her talent.
It's disappointing that Joie was pressuring her daughter to work in entertainment
its crazy
She is horrible for that! My mouth dropped hearing her talk like that
Joie chavis dates everyone CIARA dates! Has anyone peeped that? Bow wow and future
Joie chavis loves the fame and being in the spotlight
A mother saying her TWELVE year old child should be focused on “a bag” 😢 that CHILD should focus on growing up not being an underage piggy bank
Especially knowing how the industry is .. girl 🙄
Indeed, that path rarely leads to positive outcomes. Even if the child manages to achieve financial success, it often comes at the cost of their mental well-being and their relationships with others, including their parents.
That’s crazy but let’s not act like their no such thing as kids becoming stars. No one was mad at beyonces dad or Miley cirus or zendaya parents, etc… if your child is talented of course most parents SHOULD encourage their gifts. But she caught on that her daughter is not interested in fame and said she stopped pressuring her.
50 Cent girlfriend is the same age as his older son but nobody never talk about that it doesn't justify what Draya is doing but I think we pick and choose
Didn’t know Cuban Link was as young as Curtis’ eldest son that he denies but 50 is a deadbeat anyway so🥱
She ain’t pregnant either
Most people probably didn't know about this
Not the same age but his gf is a few yrs older
I'm no Draya fan, buT nobody forced this grown azz Man to knock her up though! 😂
I agree… but she knew what she was doing …she could have used protection … she wanted a NBA baby…. Never Broke Again… you know guys don’t think about protecting all they want is the 😸so she’s old enough to know better
@@SundayMorning1234-l2r There's nothinG wrong with wanting a bag though, only Blaq women have been brainwashed to fall for that "$$$ doesn't matter" bullshi#!! #GiveThisChickHerPropz 🤗
Thank you
Forced, isn’t the word
More like “enticed” him
@@SundayMorning1234-l2r Why would she use protection IF she wants a bag?? Only Blaq women are brainwashed enough by Tyrones to fall for that "$$$ doesn't matter" bullshi#, but other races of women know better than that! 😄
She “trapped” him?! Are we seriously using this sexist language? Did he not know having sex can lead to pregnancy? Did he protect himself? He’s not 12 years old he’s a grown man. He knew the risk. This is the problem with infantilising men. He’s accountable.
She definitely trapped him.
That's what I said
That said. We all know young men, hell all men think with their small head, not the one above their shoulders. He is under 25, which means his brain isn't even fully formed. Let that sink in.... He will resent her and totally move on in the long run. Very nasty work Draya!
His brain hasn’t even fully developed… he has literally HALF the life experience of her so YEA she trapped him and I’m sure he thinks he “knows” what he’s doing but he’s very young. Imagine if the roles were reversed. I’m sure you wouldn’t say it’s sexist to say a 40 year old man preyed on a 21 year old girl 😒
She trapped him!
This "trap him" narrative doesn't make sense to me. He may be 22 but he knows wtf is going on when it comes to sex education. Looks to me like two consenting adults decided to have a baby. 🤷🏽♀️
Right! He already knew she had two older kids too so there’s no need to infantilize him.
Exactly, he didn't think she was going to have a rotisserie chicken when he had unprotected sex. And he wasn't groomed ,so this is ridiculous. Smh
When it comes to men, they get passes and protection. When it comes to women, they are attacked and dragged.
That’s correct. Two consenting adults lol… people are busy in their bed for no reasons. Why is the black community not educated on this topic? I got married at 19, I was not a child lol… A grown adult and still married at 40. I wish they would stop with the age gap outrage lol… I can tell the people who doesn’t have a passport to travel the world and see age gap marriages. Know the differences between that and predatory behavior.
Yea but come on. If your 35 and up yr old friend had a whole baby by a 22 yr old y'all wouldn't say nothing??! My son is 16 and when he turns 18 it don't mean women over 30 can date him just cuz he legal. No I don't agree. But he made his own choice. I just think it's not ok to be pushing 40 and having a baby by a 22 yr old. Same for men...just cuz she 18 don't mean she's capable of mentally dating a 40+ yr old man.
He trapped himself!!!..He knew what he was doing when he was doing it!!!...Y'all pass opinions on these rich folks like y'all turned water into wine!!.. Simmer down!!
Sheet, Draya looks good with a lot of experience under her belt. 😂
Thank you, they’re acting like he’s 16 and she groomed him. He’s a full grown man . Some of the backlash is stemming from jealousy
THANK YOUUUU!
Ok thnx
@@longbranch11207it’s still weird.
Trapped him? Nah, he's grown and CHOSE to knock her up. MORALLY, we don't like it, legally, she ain't did nothing wrong. The selective outrage is actually disgusting. These young boys be CHASING older women.
What is your objective or point here? She's a senior, who is 40 years old. Using her womb for financial profit and gain, what does a 22 year old even know? His brain is still developing, she probably preyed and groomed that young boy. There's no selective outrage, wrong is wrong and what your internet idol did is gross. Is this what feminism has come to?
Facts nothing wrong with it. Like how men in our 40s and 50s like 30 year olds and not no old women
@@Joey-te1uy exactly what you said
@@Joey-te1uyFalse! There is something wrong with it! And this sort of behavior needs to stop being normalized! This world is getting worse.
THANK YOU!
"Getting the bag at 12" That mother gives me the vibes of the parents who sold their children to R Kelly. Bow Wow needs to watch his daughter very closely. She's disgusting
She sounds like a typical stage mom who will sell her child to the industry for a check.
She may have been a child who's parents also pimped her out. It's not uncommon in Hollywood for these folks to do that to their own seed. That place is just evil.
@@__gemoftheeast Agreed!
She was involved with Diddy so i wouldn't be surprised
I see why bow wow was tryna get his kid from her the used have custody issues..
Disgusting that she tried to pressure her own young daughter to be exposed to million of strange men for some cash and clout. Proud of her daughter to fight back her.
I agree.
Joie is pathetic. So disgusting.
This is from last year! It has been resolved and Shai went on to act in more films. I don't agree with what Joie said but she is a great mother! Shai will be okay...a lot of kids in the hollyweird act, dance and work in the business.
@@Kayla_Giirrl lolol but that wasn't the point. the girl said she didn't wanna do it. if a lot kids in LA jumped off a damn cliff, that doesn't mean she had to. and for what? her greedy ass mama? please.
North West is on tik Tok all the time and is well protected all they did was dance lol
People keep talking about her track record but the men she's been with have a track record 2x or even 3x hers. Worn out? How? This whole video was so sexist!
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Agreed
And all those dudes have dirty d!ck. What you mean!?
Exactly
Agreed! The narrative is sexist.
I bet that 23 year old girl who wouldn’t date a 22 year old guy probably wouldn’t have a problem dating a 40 year old.
😂😂😂😂She doesn't mind being groomed or baby trapped.
Stop trying to validate this bitch behavior
Joie chavs telling her 12 year old she could be getting to the bag after she says she simply just wants to be a kid, is so odd to me.
Facts! That comment made me feel uncomfortable... Only fast girls make that comment.
I don't even have kids, and I thought that was really weird.
yeah its giving all these "pretty" baby mamas are just broken individuals kmt
It's not really odd. There's a lot of moms like her. She just wants to teach her daughter to do the same things that she did to get money as opposed to going to college, getting an education and working hard and then becoming prosperous.
@@daisymae3332 it’s very odd not everyone has to be famous or be in front of a camera to make a good amount of money also considering the fact that her dad is bow wow she’ll be fine without needing to be famous she’s 12 and there’s nothing wrong with her just wanting to be a child first.
“You can only spread your legs so wide & yourself so thin before you get worn out” OUCH 😂
I said "damn" lol
*Empressive is NOT a Girls GIRL* not women dragging women instead of making videos EVERY time men do it....
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Gagged 😂
had me dying 🤣🤣🤣
I find it interesting when older black women use the term “trap” as it relates to bw being impregnated. If a man impregnates you, how are you trapping him. He planted a baby in her, it would make more sense that he trapped her. How are men sudden victims after impregnating everyone?.?.
Because why was she even dating a YOUNG and WEALTHY athlete that's her SON'S age? Because her intent was to trap him.
@@smoothsavage2870Why didn't he pull out?
@@controlmyownlife8902 That boy is 22. Y'all acting like he's a 33 year old man that knows better. If this was a 22 yo woman y'all would swear she was a victim though.
Technically you're right. Yet, in this instance, draya trapped the young man as the older one in the relationship.
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What’s also weird is how celebrity men pass around the same few women. Like is there no one else to date?
Right?! I noticed too.
Easy access
Because they are into some weird things and the pass around very comfortable with the weird things as well because they been there
THIS COMMENT! Lolol...that's what I was saying.
A baby ain’t never kept a man wit a woman…. He’s not trapped. If anything that’s the quickest way to lose a man!
I think she just wants the money and the lifestyle.
Financially sir..... It's not about keeping him
When she says Draya trapped him she means means financially
Hes financially trapped. Thats what we mean.
$$$$
Joie is SUPER WEIRD/CORNY for getting mad at your daughter for wanting to be a kid.
Kudos to the daughter who stood up for what she wants for her life and not what her mom wants.
The way the older mixed girls got the young athletes in a chokehold 😂😂
You ain't neva lied.
And people talkin about trapping this dude probably jckd off to her gram way before he made it to the nba. Couldn’t believe his life when she started paying attention to him lmfao.
ALL OF THEM 🤣🤣
This comment! 🎯🎯🎯
Let the preferences secure them 😊😂
These men are not being trapped, they’re Willing participants. You get what you pay for. You want a better outcome Make better choices in the caliber of your partner you choose.
Exactly men know when they ejaculate in you he knew and purposely let it happen, yes she can get an abortion but she aint obligated too
The criticism of Jalen and Draya's age gap is selective outrage that's fueled by double standards. Jalen is an adult that's over 21 and he probably pursued Draya. The same people criticizing Draya sit by quietly when men are actually dating underaged girls...which is a serious problem. Marcus Houston was 39 and married a 19 year old runaway who he had been dating since she was minor. Tyga was 24 when he publicly started dating 16 year old Kylie Jenner. John Mayor was 32 when he publicly dated Taylor Swift at 19. Where was the outrage and videos about the men who were actually doing illegal activity with minors?? But all of a sudden ppl are mad at a woman dating a grown man who is over 21. Smh.
I know right, it's def giving pick me 💅
There was definitely alot of controversy then about it. There's no way there wouldn't be. It's attitudes like this that give female predatory behavior a pass. Female predatory behavior is never taken as seriously as male predatory behavior. That's why you have female pedophiles becoming teachers now. They know that even if they get caught the punishment isn't as harsh as their male counterparts.
Thank you!
Wait , but everyone complained the same way about those situations, & with draya 😂 they’re all sick .
Every single one of those scenarios you called had backlash lol what are you talking about ?
That’s so sad to hear Joie speak on her daughter as how she feels is invalid or wrong. She don’t realize how blessed she is to have a child with that mindset it todays society. That b is crazy fr.
It's very unfortunate. For me that's the worst part of this video
it broke my heart ! social media is on hell of a drug
exactly and what if her kid had a bad experience on set or something ...like its joie and bow wow job to provide for that little girl until she 18...at 18 she can still make the choice to what she wants to be
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Very sad
I cannot believe in this day and age women are still being accused of trapping people who are old enough to know how to make babies and make their own choices. This is wild.
Same here “I cannot believe in this day and age men are still being accused of trapping people who are old enough to know how to make babies and make their choices. This is wild.” 😆
@@keymusabe7207 😂😂😂😂
That’s the truth. All these Brittany Renners and Draya Micheles trapped these young men. They are “obligated” to be involved in some ways in their lives financially.
U can't trap anyone. People have consenting sex and a baby is created. She did nothing wrong. He trapped himself by having unprotected sex.!!
Exactly! If anything they trapped each other. It’s not like he was pointed a gun on to sleep with her. Why do we blame most women but not too vocal on men.
@maanotshimange4129 so we going to do the doubled standards
She may not have "trapped" him but she definitely finessed and seduced him. Let's not act like the young boyz aren't intrigued by vintage vagina. But the fact that he is her sons age AND she had ties to his ex gf which makes it even fouler and morally wrong.
Thank you.. !! This story doesn’t make sense to me, they are both adults and there were in a relationship
@@daniyahwebb354exactly I agree with them that it’s his dumbass fault but if the genders were switched they’ll still be blaming the older man
BW, this isn't our fight or our business. These are their preferences, they should've chosen better. 🤷🏾
Agreed
Facts 👏🏾
AMEN!
Facts
That part
I feel bad for her son imagine your step dad being the exact same age as you.
He’s exactly her son’s age. Her son is born in 2002and so is this basketball guy. It’s disturbing and she’s a predator. I’m 22 and can’t imagine dating anyone older than25. I feel bad for him 😮
It's embarrassing and disgusting bro...I would probably disown my mom if I was in his shoes ngl
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They are not going to get married.
When Scott disick was dating Sophia and she had was closer I’m age with his young children than to him there weren’t many outrage videos made on Scott and Poor Sophia is being taken advantage of
Trap? These men are not victims. They know exactly how the game works.
Exactly
What “game”
Yeah because when you were 22 you were experienced on all things in life. Smh. People just repeat nonsense they hear.
Exactly trapped? lol nah
Stop that. Your not good at making decisions at 22
It’s definitely giving desperate. This man is literally the same age as her son. How do y’all not find this weird?
And I thought Jada was weird.....When she dated one of her son's friends or had an entanglement.
But this is just crazy 😱😡😡
Yes this situation is WEIRD
And he is using her as a BEARD 🧔🏽 Goggle his scandal video😳😩🌈🏳️🌈
Oh we do find it weird
The ones defendin it are also down with it 🥴 it's giving desperation bc irl who really doin this if he didn't have any $ draya wouldn't have touched him
"I'm not trying to shame these women, I know it sounds like I'm shaming them." Then continue to judge and shame.. 😂😂😂😂
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That part got me 😂
Cause she went TF IN😂😂😂😂
Right 😅. The shaming was crazy
Right!!!
Trap is a wrong word. He chose that folly himself. Don't try to make us feel sorry for him. The one I feel sorry is the child that will come out of the relationship. Only existing because your momma wanted to secure the bag
Your last sentence explains why it’s a trap. Her intentions are in the wrong place, using a child as a pawn.
Her intentions are wrong yes. But he is no child. He has reaped a harvest of his own seeds
Empressive sounds like she has a personal beef with Draya. 😂
I know right?! People are so pressed over Draya, it's ridiculous.
She sound super bitter proble cause her man a bum😂
Exactly
Facts lol she dragged it
Facts!
She trapped him" lol as if he wasn't there during conception when she became pregnant. Ppl may not like her, and im not a fan, but she didn't trap that 22 year old man.
Next time a man does it, remember this.
FYI he's still developing, she is 40 and has been around. She knew better he didn't and that's what we mean when we say she trapped him
Lmao yes she did😂
@@mmakatlehoroelane4240 ain't y'all the same ninjas that pride y'allselves of knowing what you want. Now y'all victim lmaooo. Ok. U need to go talk to them grown men that hang around middle schools
@@alanamillione6592 what was the process of trapping him. Help me out. Was there like a booby trap set up like in home alone? Did she put something in his food? Tied him up in the basement? I wanna know
@@mmakatlehoroelane4240 lol naw naw, I'm sure his family and friends told him about unprotected sex and what can come from that, women, his level of success and making good decisions away from home. Men, especially black men learn there are consequences to every action.
So nobody is gonna point out the fact that he had the choice to NUT or NOT?
Developmental age difference
But when Jay Z a 31 year date Beyoncé a 19 year nobody got a problem 🤷🏾♂️
Exactly double standards are crazy, everyone is going hard but silent when their male favorites do the same to young women.
Personally over 5 years is too much imho but jay didn’t have a daughter the same age as bey. At 12 years old he most likely could not be old enough to be her father
Draya is old enough to be his mother, and not a “teen mom” but a fully grown woman. Her son is the same age as her baby daddy definitely not the same as bey and jayz
For a man to pull a 19 year old in his 30s, he has to put in mad work. It is not the same the other way around and there is no double standard. All Draya did to trap this simp was look good...men actually have to become something in life unless they're conventionally attractive to begin with. I'm 30 and women have never given me the time of day. I would never date a chick my own age after becoming financially stable. Strictly 18-25 for me.
Uhm ive seen people point out how problematic that is....
People did have a problem with it, but that was over 20 years now
Why should we as black women care about this? These are the women these men CHOOSE. These are their preferences. I don’t feel sorry for them
And not even that attractive just the right complexion. These men should know better 22 or not. He knows how babies are made.
That makes no sense 😂. A 39 year old woman has no business with a 22 year old fresh adult. He isn’t a victim but very immature and naive for that 😬, especially with the fact that he is same age as her SON and now they are all tied through this upcoming baby
exactly, I feel the same way when y'all choose thugs, and are left to raise children by yourself. Those guys are BW preferences
She always been sneaky, but at least Brittany admits her shit
So it's not trapping also when these older men impregnate younger women?? It goes both ways..
She’s coming down really hard on these women for men that are consenting adults. It’s giving miss pearly/red pill talking points.
It’s trappin both ways
Facts.
"But what about the mens???" Is Draya a man or...? I'm trying to see how older men apply to THIS situation. Oh wait, you're deflecting...
@@smoothsavage2870 Reading is fundamental....take a great look at my comment again "It goes both ways" meaning BOTH MEN AND WOMEN....seeeee?? Do you see it now? Wanna borrow my glasses??
I never understand why women go after men extremely younger than them. Men in their 20s age are still maturing they don’t wanna settle down. However, I also don’t understand how men can date women and be extremely younger and get a past. You have men in other countries and also America are marrying girls 12 years old meanwhile they are damn near 50 where is the outrage?
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The answer is money. Not sure why ppl are confused by Drayas decision-making 😂
Her choice, her life! He’s 22 not 12🤷🏿♀️
Lol because ppl wanna be angry & judge. Crazy how they have no problem with what u pointed out.
Exactly at end of the day it takes 2 to make a baby. He’s 22 and most likely wants a baby.
so we're not putting any accountability on the men who made the decisions to lay down with these woman that could be their moms...... I think. everyone should mind the bed they lay in!
He's a grown man. He made his choice
And he slipped 🤭……on a banana peel.
Anyone who has a baby daddy or mama the same age as their kids should be dragged. This is 🤢
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@@hao9508mad much?!
I reside in South Africa and even I know Draya's track record that boy knows what he got himself into!😂🇿🇦
That's sad!
That’s wild lol
😂lol im South African, too
She was the (IT) girl for sure
His record probably matching hers too 😂
@@Avawa511 I'm convinced most men love her type 🤦
She “tapped” him , it’s not a trap , but tapping into them funds for 18years
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No adult can be “trapped” into impregnating someone, nor someone allowing themselves to become pregnant if you are taking proper precautions. Lust and being irresponsible are the reasons.
Jalen was a willing participant. He’s not a victim. He got played 😂😂😂Draya secured that bag because young man was blinded by $$ and ego. 10/10 Draya😂. When you lay with dogs, you wake up with fleas!
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So we are ok with 18/21 years old going to war literally to die, having major responsibilities like driving putting their lives and others at risk, being able to have a working contrac, bank loans, able to affort a house, VOTE, etc but we draw the line when it comes to dating? 😂 I can't with the hypocrisy of this world...
THANK YOU, I’ve said the same thing!!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏
Very good point but then again when you're a celebrity and socialite the world makes it seems like they're somehow special
We don't draw the line there and this is different.
Those examples are tied to capitalism and government.
Dating isn't.
The mental gymnastics it takes for y’all to conflate issues.
@Hfgv281 all of those examples i gave are OPTIONAL (maybe not doing military service in some countries), so as an adult, you have the CHOICE given by law to do all that free of any legal consequence. If dating someone with a large age gap would be a problem, it wouldn't be legal by now. But since it makes no harm to ANYONE, the consenting ADULTS can engange into that without having to give any explanation. We have to understand the legal aspect in every situation and learn when morals don't equal = legality, especially when it is not our business.
This is nonsense. Homeboy is a grownman and knows exactly what he is doing. She hasn't trapped the man, he is having a kid. Only old people care about that crap.
Exactly!! And he is mutually using her for sex and her body. Equal exchanges. What’s the problem?
He’s equally responsible. He’s an adult and should’ve known better. Let’s not only blame her.
I agreed 😮
He knew what he was doing going RAW with Draya😮
Men do this with younger women all the time, AND IT'S CELEBRATED.
Have a healthy pregnancy Draya.
Right
Who is celebrating that? Bad behavior is bad behavior period.
@@tondaniraluswinga2590 because since men claim that we women HIT THE WALL 🧱 once we become older, men applaud each other when they THEMSELVES are older and with younger!!
I'm not convinced this baby was conceived the natural way 🤷🏾♀️
@@tondaniraluswinga2590 it absolutely is celebrated, when a woman posts a pic with an old sugar daddy the comments are "get that bag sis!" "where can I get me one of those?" etc
She didn’t trap him. He’s a GROWN MAN and it takes two tango. He chose this! Leave this woman alone. They could be in love, stop using this archaic mindset.
I’m saying they act like he’s 13 that’s a grown man it’s not that deep
We don't feel bad for these BANDITS! 😂
That part!!
Dang, Empressive, you reporting this like Draya did something to you 😂 this one sound personal
I swear 😂😂😂😂 I just made a similar comment. Empressive is going IN! She's even using profanity... 😏.... But at the same time...its not surprising coming from Empressive.... iykyk...
Draya was looking for retirement! 😳 💰 $$$
He’s a grown man. What are y’all talking about? She doesn’t look old and he impregnated her. Why are you all blaming her as if he wasn’t privy to how making babies works lol😂
Isn't that the truth!!!
Let it be your 22 year old son who is making big money in the NBA! You know how much of a childlike state you were still in at 22 years old. Come on, it’s clear as day what she did to this young naive man. You must be just like her
But y’all love to paint younger wimmin who get with Diddy or Marcus Houston as victims? Those grown a$$ wimmin know what they’re doing. They’re not victims to Diddy or any other older bm or wm that they CHOOSE to be with. Those young wimmin chased those older bm and wm the same way y’all think they chased them. Keep the same energy pigeons.
If the genders was reversed y’all would play victim games. Some bw ain’t sh!t.
When it’s reversed y’all play victims so keep the same energy. Y’all compare bm and bw every other time. Why not in this situation? Some of y’all bw ain’t ish.
Older men date younger women so I mean I don't see what they big deal is. LMAO 🤣
Women usually want older men, not younger men especially 17 years younger
@@quentinjones6877 Women don't want older men; they want resources and maturity which older men often have. If women find a mature younger man with money, they'll fight over him.
Ikr.
@minyangtangwan7046 not all older men have maturity though.same applies to women.But they date so this isn't awkward.There are numerous examples on the Internet
Idgaf about this shit at all, but it’s all over my feed.
Demi Moore married Ashton Kutcher when she was 40 and he was 24... this isn't new... what happened to all the people saying that no 20 Year old wants a 40 year old woman
Comparing Draya to Marcus Houston is wicked work 😂😂 because we know she wasn’t tryna get this boy when he was 15! He didn’t runaway and popped up with her pregnant when he was 18 😂😂 if you hate women just say that lol
Manipulator=yes. Trapper=No.
He's gay... well bi I believe
@@taraatkins4823 That's irrelevant. Why are you even bringing this up?
She trapped him financially.
@@smoothsavage2870 he trapped himself 🤷🏾♂️
@@darienwilliams6070 She trapped him. Simple. There's a reason she deliberately went after a young dude that's getting $100s of millions. Because she knew he was an easy mark.
That Joie Chavez clip was shocking!! How can a parent feel such a way about their CHILD!! Good for their daughter for not caving to that pressure from both parents
People DO realize that it takes TWO people to create a baby, right? So why is everyone saying she trapped him? Granted, dude is MUCH younger, but he’s not a child. He has sense. He could have wrapped it up. I hate that the woman is always blamed for getting pregnant. BYE.
His a child she's the adult with her old ass. This boys brain hasn't even fully developed. She's the older one she's the one that should know better. Also, she has a son that's the same age as him. Please make it make sense! #dumbshit$
Those comments that Joie made about her daughter was the most disturbing part of this video.
I am shocked at how Empressive made all these assumptions about her intentions and why she got pregnant with dude. I follow this channel because she mostly bases her opinions from facts rather than biased opinions. Ion like it.
She sounds like a hater. I just know an older woman must have taken her man. It’s giving anger and jealousy.
Lol
@@kellie6958yes! What is going on??? She doesn't have to love the gap but wth...
Draya knew what she was doing
@@alexists2I didn’t know this woman had so many fans. She’s a pass around😂
What makes her think she’s trapped him? As if he’s gonna stick around 🤨
What else would a 39 year old be doing with a 22 year old? Other than TRAPPING HIM
Meaning she got a bag lol
@@ThatCanadianDudeEh that’s true, but what about the kid? They’re not meant to be their cash cows 😠
This not cute at all
@@ThatCanadianDudeEhthat’s not the point like she knew exactly what she was doing this boy is 22 she trapped him
Ppl too invested. He got her pregnant she didn't do it herself🤷🏾♀️ maybe he wanted that baby.... We don't know and it ain't our business. Neither of them was careful about it
It’s predatory behaviour, whether it’s a man or woman. Cause it’s not having a baby out of love but having a baby to secure a bag
How do y'all figure that, they've been to get her for more than a year🤔
Y'all love throwing that predator word out there. She didn't know him or get with him when he was underaged. He is over the age of 21.
@@kockyboi19 predatory behaviour is being in a relationship for financial gain (or other things) nothing to do with being underage
@@kockyboi19 Look at the timeline they started dating and when she’s pregnant. It’s not hard to figure out this was for financial gain.
@@AuntHooLooLord, please stop acting dumb. Everyone knows Draya is always in search of the bag.
The double standards are sad to see. Men date younger all the time. These are two adults. Everyone just need 2 stop hatin..
Why does everybody have to be a hater when stating opinions? This is her 3rd baby daddy and he’s literally her son’s age. It’s one thing to have a lil fling but having his baby is on a whole other level of pathetic.
Why y’all care about men do? Do better. They get called out all the time for the foolishness. This woman committed child endangerment for crying out loud.
And the 40 year old man will get called out as a creep, ESPECIALLY by women. So why not keep the same energy here?
@@smoothsavage2870 But when P diddy was 50 and dating Lori Harvey when she was 22, ppl were dragging HER but not HIM? Same when she was 23 and Future was about 37. Y'all drag the women regardless. Ppl only call the older man a creep if the younger adult girlfriend is nonblk.
@@jennywakeman3267 We judged P Diddy just as much as her. For one he was old AF and 2 he was messing with her right after his son was with her. Lori was judged because she is/was pretty much an industry pass around, while a lot of women praised her for that. We never judged her because she was with Diddy. To say otherwise it's just revisionist history.
when kids, especially young girls start to approach the preteen years… just getting up and looking all kinds of ways on cameras is not it anymore. they’re hitting a stage where they’re trying to find their identities and look presentable. her just wanting to be a kid is a blessing. the mom is delulu
You can talk about how shameful and pathetic it is to trap somebody without sex shaming them. That was totally out of line.
Empressive is just jealous and hateful
The language on this video was very hateful and sexist.
jealous of what?@@divine2297
The sexism is rampant in this video and this comment thread 🤷♀️
No it’s weird
Facts
Oh brother. 😂 Women actually really don’t like being held being accountable.
You know Chris Evans is 16years older than his wife! Why isn’t he getting dragged? I feel like the women of minority would always get dragged into this more! This is sad!
Exactly and idris elba and his wife have a 17 year difference
You are missing the point but I understand birds of the same feather flock together🤦🏽♀️
Chris Evans is actually getting dragged. You don't see it bc of YOUR algorith. I just saw on Twitter yesterday after the Oscar Vanity Fair After Party
She didn’t force him to sleep with her. Draya pulled a Stella & got her groove back plus a baby
Just gross 🤢
Some young men really seek older women. I am on an online dating site and the young ones stay in my inbox, but I just feel like anything younger than 9 years is personally too young for me, BUT I ENJOY being flattered that my looks are up to par but I know they are not ready for a grown ssa woman.
@@hersheybliss8620how? Men think with their parts
Exactly
@@LuxxMa Exactly they both are grown consenting adults.
I giggled when I read the caption about Draya. You can’t trap a person who likely chose to shoot the club up 🥴
I hate to say that those types of women could get away with that stuff. Because the way they look. You be surprised by some man puts up with
This comment here 💯
She's 12, she could be getting the bag.How disgusting what a horrible mother
Right
And she didn’t see any problem recording herself and saying all of that?!? Wow
I find it odd how the men in the comments are holding Jalen accountable for 🥜 in draya by his own accord. So why as women do we feel the need to coddle him and say he was trapped?
It's so pathetic. These women raise problematic men for sure.
White women like Kristan Cavalry get praised for their age gap relationships but Draya is the villain? Y’all ppl on the internet weird af! I’m not a Draya fan by no means. And if we’re going ham on Draya let’s go ham on all the older men that do this ALL THE TIME!
I agreed with u 100 precent
💯!!!!!
EXACTLY!
Facts!
Why are you making this a race thing? Draya is the worst case of streets girl. She left her own son home alone for days without proper food, dirty house... She's not a capable mother at all. The age gap is the smallest problem here.
LISTEN YALL, BLACK MALE ATHLETES ARE WELL KNOW DOGS! SO IF IT'S NOT DRAYA GETTING A BAG FROM THAT BOY, A YOUNGER GIRL WOULD HAVE. SO IT DON'T MATTER WHO GETS THE BAG FROM HIM. THOSE ATHLETES ARE THE REAL "PASS AROUNDS" IJS!
Amen!!!! PERIODT….
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That doesn’t make HER any less nasty with her old ass just like Marcus Houston with his old nasty ass!
Promoting 304-ism? Sad.
@mwebster3265 oh hush nobody asked you man 🙄
I love Empressive, but girl this vid is pure slander and sounds like big hater energy. I’m so sick of people shaming this woman as if this man was an innocent bystander and like men don’t do this sort of thing literally every second of the day. SMH the double standard is crazy. There is no mama out there telling their girls to find a broke man but when she looks for successful men she’s a gold digger?! Also this girl runs a very successful business for years and makes her own money. It may not be NBA money but she def has her own. Y’all just want to be mad at someone because it makes you feel better about your life smh
She’s deserves the flack. She got arrested for child endangerment. Women aren’t free from accountability. Let’s stop acting like we are. She’s too grown for these games. If she’s such a successful business owner she shouldn’t have had issues finding a man in her age bracket.
My thoughts exactly
Empressive needs to stop being a pick-me. I notice that it's mostly bw crying about it more than bm. These women are too busy being their attack dogs. Draya, Joie, Brittany, and all the ww that Empressive chose not to mention that do the exact same thing towards rich bm are bm's preference, but most of the women complaining are not. So these women really need to calm down bcuz it's not going to stop these men from pursuing their preferences.
Empressive needs to stop being a mammy. I notice that it's mostly blk wmn crying about it more than blk men. These women are too busy being their attack dogs. Draya, Joie, Brittany, and all the ww that Empressive chose not to mention that do the exact same thing towards rich bm are bm's preference, but most of the women complaining are not. So these women really need to calm down because it's not going to stop these men from pursuing their preferences.
@@christinem8799THANK YOU!!!
She is NASTY for this, foul woman. Her own son’s age, you already know she checks her own son’s friend out. 🤢 This is a predator.
Ya'll needa Relaxx lol...Let ppl be Happy... I'm sure he ain't Trippin
I got married at 19, I was not a child lol… A grown adult and still married at 40. I wish they would stop with the age gap outrage lol… I can tell the people who doesn’t have a passport to travel the world and see age gap marriages. Know the differences between that and predatory behavior
@@BlackBeauty-yl8uqgirl bye🙄
No. Get out more hun . @@Happypotato917
@@Happypotato917 They acting like she will be married to him and spend the rest of her life with him. She is a lustful woman who will he a single two time baby mother looking for her next victim. 😂
She trapped him? but he didn’t protect himself from having children or STD’s. 🤔
I feel bad for her kids. I wonder how her oldest son feels about this? Just like Marquise gets this energy so does draya. I see she turned those comments off on her pregnancy post😂😂😂😂
Three babies by three men🤷🏾♀️
She ain't the first and won't be the last... it's their body their lives their choice...
yuck. imagine wanting your kid conceived in a place where 500 men have been before
I'm trying figure out why y'all are attacking her! He's LEGAL!!!! HE'S NOT 15 , 14, OR 16 he's legal!!!!!! Lmaooo
If this were a woman, you would have been claiming that her frontotemporal lobe has not fully developed. You need to be real and use your head. This almost 40 year old women trapped this young man
She’s old enough to be his mother if you think that’s normal something is wrong with you you must like that shit
We are coming after her because there is a very clear maturity gap in this situation. She knows how a 22 year old mind is because her son is around that age. That is absolutely DISGUSTING.
Getting to the bag??? SHES TWELVE and she’s begging to just be a kid.
The fact that this is what people are starting to think of their kids is scary. It’s sad and scary for this little girl to beg to have a normal childhood and her mom think that’s a ridiculous concept
I don’t know any older women that take care of themselves that want these broke down dusty men 40 plus.
I missed journalism when it’s was based on facts and not opinionated.
Welcome to social media 😮💨.
Facts 💯
I am 45 with a 20 year old son. If I wasn't married I wouldn't dream of dating a man in his 30s even, much less the age of my child???? That's disgusting
Some older women are just attracted to younger men, and vice versa.
So what you want a cookie who cares lady
I don’t date younger men but IF I WANT TO I WILL! That’s MY decision just like it’s yours… nobody gets a 🍪 because they have preferences 🤦🏽♀️I mostly get approached by younger men because they desire older women, lots of younger women looking for a bag, club, or a lick, some of these young men desire mature & stable.
@@Sugabear1976
Who's asking for a cookie? I said what I said just like everyone else. Tf?
@@jarricah7920
What's 4 u take it whats not for you leave it weirdo
He came in her, he chose to go raw, he's over 20, he knew the likely consequences, what's the hissy fuss?
Jealousy because despite her age, Draya looks better than the owner of this channel, and most other women in general
I never leave a comment but sometimes when I see a video in my recommended I hope “maybe this won’t be an opinion pushed as the truth” but it’s every time somebody getting dogged like it’s the truth that man is GROWN and knew what he was doing it takes two to tango calling him young and dumb because you don’t agree with his choice of who to lay with is ridiculous