No, cycling is about effort and performance, all those assistance devices are making it easier, this isn't cycling anymore, might as well stick an engine and pretend, it is similar to the assistance in Formula one, the car accelerates by itself, changes gear by itself, brakes, assisted direction corrects mistakes.....why bother having a driver....Cycling has always been about effort and suffering, in the 60, 70, Mercks, Anquetille, they had nothing but a heavy bike, this carved the legend of cycling, assistance should have no place in cycling.
Bought the same power meter but the duo-shi version, as you say, they are getting far more accessible to casual cyclists and definitely nice knowing you're using the same power even if your bike is a lot heavier if you're touring, new tyres, rougher terrain, etc. Great review.
hi there, great video there, new to road cycling. tried searching online but can't seem to find any information on difference between road and mtb power meters. and if they're interchangeable.
I used Assioma Duo pedals for about a year. Worked fantastic, then they started giving super inaccurate readings in spikes about twice a month. Finally bit the bullet and switched to a Quarq DFour (DZero for Shimano) and Quarq cranks. No calibrating, no maintenance, accurate readings. I'll never go back.
@@wiggle no I had them beyond the warranty period. I've actually converted them into power meter pedals for mountain/gravel pedals. Don't ride them too often so they make a great option for that.
I have a set of Garmin Vector 3's. They are quite simply the worst cycling product have ever purchased. I have had them replaced twice and they have never worked properly.. the connection between pedal and head unit is constantly failing. I've had both a power tap and crank power meter in the past, but never had these connection issues.
I used to have the Vector 3s and moved to the Assioma Duos and it's a night and day difference. The Assomas never drop, they always connect, and I literally almost never have to think about them. Do yourself a favor and get these pedals. The Vector 3s will only give you more pain, haha
Weird, I’ve tried garmin rally pedals and they’ve been pretty flawless… these favero ones seem too easy to use too! Connection issues are awful tho… feel your pain there!
Yeah, the initial issues with the Vectors are well documented - battery doors, custom batteries, baby oil... With a sealed rechargeable battery Favero just nailed it with the Assiomas.
I recently bought a new computer but that one doesn’t have calorie count. It says it’s tracked better by powers meter. How does that work? Can anyone explain?
7:51 - 417 shifts per hour (3 front, 414 rear). That is a lot. For comparison, I did 32 front and 222 rear shifts in a recent 75 minute ride, featuring 164m of elevation.
@@wiggle My ride (average speed 28.5kmh) featured almost no traffic (Sunday evening), minimal stops/starts, less elevation. Therefore I wouldn't have deviated much from my average speed. Your ride was perhaps more variable, more accelerations/decelerations, changes in gradient = more disruptions to average speed and cadence = a greater need for gear changes? My ride was comparatively stable and lazier ;) It may also be a preference thing, that I tend to change gear slightly less often (?)
As a team mechanic I tell my racing riders there's benefits in power data if the individual studies & takes on board everything about the benefits. I wouldn't recommend them to anyone who isn't racing. There's really no need & all it will do is make you data obsessed & go against the enjoyment of cycling. The latter is proven by many cyclists who give feedback.
I just bought mine Favero DUO and I know that slowly I’m going down the road of becoming a data obsessed and lose the enjoyment of cycling. I had to answer your comment because it is exactly what is going on with me.
100% know what you mean, i'd still imagine plenty of enthusiast cyclists who want to be faster who don't race would still appreciate power data. I guess it comes down to how seriously you take that data. After a few rides with it myself, I've found myself checking it less on the ride itself and more after it.
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No, cycling is about effort and performance, all those assistance devices are making it easier, this isn't cycling anymore, might as well stick an engine and pretend, it is similar to the assistance in Formula one, the car accelerates by itself, changes gear by itself, brakes, assisted direction corrects mistakes.....why bother having a driver....Cycling has always been about effort and suffering, in the 60, 70, Mercks, Anquetille, they had nothing but a heavy bike, this carved the legend of cycling, assistance should have no place in cycling.
Bought the same power meter but the duo-shi version, as you say, they are getting far more accessible to casual cyclists and definitely nice knowing you're using the same power even if your bike is a lot heavier if you're touring, new tyres, rougher terrain, etc. Great review.
Easily the best value pedals on the market! Regular use for almost a couple of years now and not one issue.. love them!
Yessss Tommy! Glad they’re working out for you. Hope you’re keeping well pal 👊🏾
Really helpful video, thanks.
hi there, great video there, new to road cycling. tried searching online but can't seem to find any information on difference between road and mtb power meters. and if they're interchangeable.
I used Assioma Duo pedals for about a year. Worked fantastic, then they started giving super inaccurate readings in spikes about twice a month. Finally bit the bullet and switched to a Quarq DFour (DZero for Shimano) and Quarq cranks. No calibrating, no maintenance, accurate readings. I'll never go back.
That's more than annoying, have you tried getting them replaced under warranty? Quarq Dfour is a great replacement tho 💪
@@wiggle no I had them beyond the warranty period. I've actually converted them into power meter pedals for mountain/gravel pedals. Don't ride them too often so they make a great option for that.
Did you use Dual Channels or Unified data? Mine only showing data from the Left pedals on L/R balance metric
Bugger,I thought they give you power like an ebike ☺️ and clicked .. lol
😆 sadly these don't do that...yet
is shimano cleats not compatible with this?
I have a set of Garmin Vector 3's. They are quite simply the worst cycling product have ever purchased. I have had them replaced twice and they have never worked properly.. the connection between pedal and head unit is constantly failing. I've had both a power tap and crank power meter in the past, but never had these connection issues.
I used to have the Vector 3s and moved to the Assioma Duos and it's a night and day difference. The Assomas never drop, they always connect, and I literally almost never have to think about them. Do yourself a favor and get these pedals. The Vector 3s will only give you more pain, haha
Weird, I’ve tried garmin rally pedals and they’ve been pretty flawless… these favero ones seem too easy to use too! Connection issues are awful tho… feel your pain there!
Yeah, the initial issues with the Vectors are well documented - battery doors, custom batteries, baby oil... With a sealed rechargeable battery Favero just nailed it with the Assiomas.
Omg i tought i was the only one with that problem with the vectors 3 i wasn’t sure if i should it change to assioma but you just answered me
I recently bought a new computer but that one doesn’t have calorie count. It says it’s tracked better by powers meter. How does that work? Can anyone explain?
By knowing the watts you pedal it is easy to convert to kilojoules and beyond :)
Can't believe folks are actually saying power meters are getting affordable. Not in my world. Grossly over priced.
May be one day, when those pedals cost less than 25% of the price of my bike (currently they cost a bit less than my bike).
I didn't even buy a whole pedal, just the axle and it was more than half the price of my bike :)
7:51 - 417 shifts per hour (3 front, 414 rear). That is a lot. For comparison, I did 32 front and 222 rear shifts in a recent 75 minute ride, featuring 164m of elevation.
Pretty interesting... I'm guessing as my ride had roughly double the elevation with many little climbs that would make sense?
@@wiggle My ride (average speed 28.5kmh) featured almost no traffic (Sunday evening), minimal stops/starts, less elevation. Therefore I wouldn't have deviated much from my average speed. Your ride was perhaps more variable, more accelerations/decelerations, changes in gradient = more disruptions to average speed and cadence = a greater need for gear changes? My ride was comparatively stable and lazier ;) It may also be a preference thing, that I tend to change gear slightly less often (?)
As a team mechanic I tell my racing riders there's benefits in power data if the individual studies & takes on board everything about the benefits. I wouldn't recommend them to anyone who isn't racing. There's really no need & all it will do is make you data obsessed & go against the enjoyment of cycling.
The latter is proven by many cyclists who give feedback.
I just bought mine Favero DUO and I know that slowly I’m going down the road of becoming a data obsessed and lose the enjoyment of cycling. I had to answer your comment because it is exactly what is going on with me.
100% know what you mean, i'd still imagine plenty of enthusiast cyclists who want to be faster who don't race would still appreciate power data. I guess it comes down to how seriously you take that data. After a few rides with it myself, I've found myself checking it less on the ride itself and more after it.