Prior to 2021, the numbering rules were much more strict. Here is what they used to be: QB: 1-19 RB: 20-49 WR: 10-19, 80-89 TE: 40-49, 80-89 OL: 50-79 DL: 50-79, 90-99 LB: 40-59, 90-99 DB: 20-49 P/K: 1-19 LS: 1-99 Players who changed positions were allowed to keep their original number until they switched teams (for instance, Devin Hester wearing 23 as a WR for the Bears)
Yeah, but since one could shift positions in the backfield the slot receiver could be a WR with RB numbers or TE numbers as long as the player shifts. Tall, skinny and fast TEs that can catch the ball are allowed.
@@johnprager662 i remember i was so mad when they changed it, and everybody was saying how it would be cooler and more like college ball, and now everybodys complaining about it almost 4 years later lmao
Jersey numbers just come from the sizing. Back in the day you’d get a shipment of jerseys and the small/xs would be single digit and your bigger jerseys would be higher in number. That’s where the numbering scheme comes from
This is true. However, it became obsolete as QBs got taller and there weren’t enough small numbers left over for WRs. That’s when they moved forward with the structured system.
@@ZVPieGuy it’s a newer trend set by Jerry Rice. All the shitty players at the bottom of the depth chart from pee wee to high school football usually got the XXXL number 80 jerseys that fit nobody. Jerry rice kept the number from the days when he was bottom of depth charts in pee wee football as kind of a momento. Kind of cool. How do I know this? Because I was always the kid wearing 80, 88… because I sucked ass.
This was in incredibly informative. I didn’t realize DBs could choose any number up to 49, but it would be SO cool if one or two badass players wear the letter X
It was changed for DB's, WR, TE and HB in the last couple of years. Before that, it was much more strict. Still getting used to the single digit WR's, DB's and RB's
I played LS for Wake Forest for 4 years (2 year starter) my freshman and sophomore year as a backup when I was just on kick return and punt team I was 49. When I was starting LS my final 2 years I wore 45 since my neighbor I grew up next to in Charlotte was Brad Hoover who wore 45 his entire 10 year career for the panthers as a fullback. Us long snappers are just too elite 😂😂😂😂
the long snapper who chose 92 is my HERO we’ve only had 2 players ever choose it in the nba (my fandom) and it’s my favorite number ever. shout out deshawn stevenson
@@CubeInspector for sure a weird concept, but not a weird thing at all. down here in texas almost every family has their own passed down favorite number 😂 although it’s almost always 7
@@drewf6063 It’s sentimental, I use my a different number for stuff like passwords, although I have much worse and different security problems when it comes to that 😂😂 Im curious why you think it is though, because it comes down to some pretty odd and hard to guess things 😂
Former High School Football coach and ref. I paused and thought for a second and got it right. Mainly because a Long Snapper can be anyone. While some teams use their center, he's a total liability if he isn't fast. I spent a couple of years as a Special Teams Coordinator and I’d rather use a player who can pursue the ball and make the tackle than a blocker. It's easier and better to have him snap it and go. LS’ers might be a TE, FB, or even a LB. So instead of having them report to the ref everytime you need to punt, refs disregard their number. Also, at higher levels of football, no one is recruiting or drafting LS’ers. You use a guy on your team with that ability and make him get a lot of reps with the punter
@@luscorpio3679 The rules got changed again last season. This is why we now have defensive players with single digit numbers and 0 is legal again. Not sure about 00. Still, this is sorta valid as the longsnapper is typically also another position so one team's long snapper might be a tight end while another's is a back up center, or... whatever.
Defensive Linemen were first allowed to wear 90-99 in 1979 bc under the 1973 jersey numbering system, D linemen were only allowed to wear numbers 60-79 and rosters began expanding and teams were running out of 60-79 numbers. Then in 1984, linebackers were permitted to wear 90-99 bc more teams were using 3-4 defenses (which meant more linebackers) and thus ran out of 50-59 numbers for linebackers.
Did you miss the rest of that sentence where he says "but they can also wear 80-89? It's literally the same sentence as your comment is referencing smh
This was a loophole because he converted to RB from Receiver and was not required to change. Same thing happened with Ty Montgomery a few years back when he became the Packers emergency RB after all theirs got injured
Most LS in college are given an eligible number since if your the center you don’t need to report in ineligible, but would have to report eligible in swinging gate formation making it not a surprise if the LS goes out for a pass. Not sure how this relates to NFL eligibility rules since I don’t know them and neither does Dan camble.
The invention of the forward pass..would help in implementing the jersey number rules. A player wearing 50-79 cannot catch a pass on offense, unless made eligible as an end man on the L.O.S. Where the ref has to alert the defense.
In case anyone is wondering, that first team picture is of The 1920 Decatur Staleys, later the Chicago Bears. George Halas with the stripes on his jersey is sitting front row centre.
Personally, I'd like for the league to go back to the traditional numbering system. Seeing a hulking linebacker like Queen wearing #6 and Derwin James wearing #3 @ safety really throws me off.
It makes sense they would loosen the number restrictions. A lot of players are position flexible now. You see RB's and WR's lining up all over. Look at Deebo Samuel for example. Lamar Jackson might be the best RB in the league and he's a QB. You are seeing DB's play LB at times too. And finally TE's have done the Hback thing for ages now.
@@Chloeprettyoccasionally it is supposed to make it easier to identify what position a player plays which makes it easier for refs to know if a player is committing a penalty (illegal man down field, illegal touching etc)
@@paulwarner7508 So what some positions are just allowed to commit fouls? I understand wanting to distinguish players, hemce you can't have the same number, but why does the position matter at all?
The idea of using letters is kinda crazy but I like it 😅 '53 is chasin down letter Z!' or 'where tf is F at?!' it's less syllables for what it's worth. Coach 'A is ok, B is getting there, C is decent'
It seems like HBs couldn’t wear anything under 20 until a few years ago. I remember seeing Dalvin Cook switching his number from 33 to 4 and thinking “what?! They can do that now?”
The NHL doesn't have specific rules I believe, outside of it has to be a number and can't be 0, 00 or 99 but there are definitely unwritten ones. Defensemen typically wear low numbers, generally between 2 and 15. 1 is a goalie number in the rare instances it is used. Goalies tend to use numbers from 25 to 40. Forwards tend to wear higher numbers, but the numbers 19 and 9 usually end up on hall of Famers and as a result one of those numbers is probably retired on your team. 99 was Gretzky's number and is retired league wide.
The player who has the draftee's college number would have to give it up,and the players work out the "compensation" (ie a gift ). Personally, I like seeing players wearing higher numbers in football and basketball,and lower numbers (1-20) in hockey
Im a long snapper playing college ball rn, I have worn 34, 48, and 29, it really is free rein 😭. If there are single digits available, we can pick it up, but it really depends on your coaches, or the rare chance that somebody leaves a single digit number available
This is wildly untrue. D Lineman can wear 0-99 . I belive LBs also can wear any number. The restrictions really only matter with the offense. QB has to be 0-19. Lineman have to be 50-79 to be eligible . WRs and TE can be any number excluding 50-79. Defense does not have this restriction since they don’t have eligible blcokers
That's not exactly true. Most long snappers play another position. So their # would be decided by their primary position group. A lot of them are linebackers.
Wait so was he saying that running backs can wear up to 89? I couldn’t tell if he just meant wr’s and te’s and made a mistake because I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen a rb with a number higher than the 40’s
since 2021... the answer is any position can wear whatever number they want. confusing the crap out of the old heads and making this newer generation feel empowered.
Long snappers are just above the law 💪
They are usually done by back up qbs so yea they gotta follow the qb rule
@@SimplyCrossFirethey are absolutely not done by backup qbs. They’re almost all their own position
@@SimplyCrossFire theyre usually tight ends or lineman
@@matthewwillis8940 not in the NFL. Now they are purely long snappers
@@cmac5338 🤣 yes they certainly are
I remember watching Chargers star QB John Hadl wearing #21. Kansas actually retired that number for his stellar play.
Blud was baaaad man on the field
Damn unc
Bro the chargers are from los Angeles and San Diego
@@JamesGilbertson-rf7mwLook, if you’re dumb that’s fine.
@@JamesGilbertson-rf7mw and your point was? He was a Collegiate star for Kansas you know.
Prior to 2021, the numbering rules were much more strict. Here is what they used to be:
QB: 1-19
RB: 20-49
WR: 10-19, 80-89
TE: 40-49, 80-89
OL: 50-79
DL: 50-79, 90-99
LB: 40-59, 90-99
DB: 20-49
P/K: 1-19
LS: 1-99
Players who changed positions were allowed to keep their original number until they switched teams (for instance, Devin Hester wearing 23 as a WR for the Bears)
Those were the good ol' days. Now it's numeral chaos on the field
they need to go back to this.
Yeah, but since one could shift positions in the backfield the slot receiver could be a WR with RB numbers or TE numbers as long as the player shifts. Tall, skinny and fast TEs that can catch the ball are allowed.
@@johnprager662 i remember i was so mad when they changed it, and everybody was saying how it would be cooler and more like college ball, and now everybodys complaining about it almost 4 years later lmao
Me and tom brady agree that the nfl should've never passed the new numbers rule.
Jim Otto wore"#00. For the Raiders
HOF center. Only player ever to wear it
I actually new him, he went to my church before he died a lot.
Houston Oilers WR Ken Burrough also wore 00
@mrpink99 Yes, I remember! "LUV YA BLUE" was there motto at the time! 🔥
@JustGiraffe3 he died alot? I thought that was a one time deal 😂
@@AaronEvans-xm2wb Bad grammar lol
Long Snapper: “I’d like number 80085 please”
It's taken. Would you like 80147?
@@TheSBleeder "nah i used 80085 since HS"
@@TheSBleederam I too stupid. Can’t say I ever put that on a calculator
Jersey numbers just come from the sizing. Back in the day you’d get a shipment of jerseys and the small/xs would be single digit and your bigger jerseys would be higher in number. That’s where the numbering scheme comes from
This is true. However, it became obsolete as QBs got taller and there weren’t enough small numbers left over for WRs. That’s when they moved forward with the structured system.
Yall funny..they jerseys were sized by # because of these rules..not vice versa
So how did wide receivers end up with numbers in the 80s? They're some of the smallest guys out there and those would be the biggest jerseys.
@@ZVPieGuy Ages ago they wore single digits. But so did QBs.
@@ZVPieGuy it’s a newer trend set by Jerry Rice. All the shitty players at the bottom of the depth chart from pee wee to high school football usually got the XXXL number 80 jerseys that fit nobody. Jerry rice kept the number from the days when he was bottom of depth charts in pee wee football as kind of a momento. Kind of cool. How do I know this? Because I was always the kid wearing 80, 88… because I sucked ass.
This was in incredibly informative. I didn’t realize DBs could choose any number up to 49, but it would be SO cool if one or two badass players wear the letter X
It was changed for DB's, WR, TE and HB in the last couple of years. Before that, it was much more strict. Still getting used to the single digit WR's, DB's and RB's
Goldberg wore X
@@305Wrigz whose Goldberg??
@@SGT.Pepper. he played for the "Mean Machine"
@@305Wrigz hall of famer
That rule has been revised tho, as some running backs are now wearing single digit like dalvin cook
thats what he said in the vid bro
Teddy Bridgewater: 🧍🏿♂️
Real
i dont get it
@@RaymondRoycetibayanin training camp, players can wear any number the want. Teddy bridgewater wore 50
@@devinschieffer9059that’s fucking disgusting 🤮
Teddy Trashwater. Taking up roster spots. Good riddance
I played LS for Wake Forest for 4 years (2 year starter) my freshman and sophomore year as a backup when I was just on kick return and punt team I was 49. When I was starting LS my final 2 years I wore 45 since my neighbor I grew up next to in Charlotte was Brad Hoover who wore 45 his entire 10 year career for the panthers as a fullback. Us long snappers are just too elite 😂😂😂😂
As a long snapper I see this as an absolute win
Me too bro
Gotta go with 00
@@wombatnation1709 I’m forced to get a lineman number cause I’m center/longsnapper but if I could 00s on a big dude is tough
The second picture had my great grandpa and great uncle
Cool.
Ken Burrough was a nice player on the Houston Oilers, wide receiver 00
Letters for positions go hard
“personal foul, face mask, number… MLB. 15 yard penalty, automatic first down”
weapon x go hard fr
Imagine the guy that had to wear L 💀💀💀
Go so hard bro!!......stupid
@@TheDemolisher “it stands for “loyalty” guys…” 😭
the long snapper who chose 92 is my HERO we’ve only had 2 players ever choose it in the nba (my fandom) and it’s my favorite number ever. shout out deshawn stevenson
Having a favorite number is weird.
That was John Denney, dude was in Miami forever
@@CubeInspector for sure a weird concept, but not a weird thing at all. down here in texas almost every family has their own passed down favorite number 😂 although it’s almost always 7
Might want to avoid telling people 92 is your favorite number. Most of us can easily guess why and knowing that fact about you is a security thing
@@drewf6063 It’s sentimental, I use my a different number for stuff like passwords, although I have much worse and different security problems when it comes to that 😂😂 Im curious why you think it is though, because it comes down to some pretty odd and hard to guess things 😂
Former High School Football coach and ref. I paused and thought for a second and got it right. Mainly because a Long Snapper can be anyone. While some teams use their center, he's a total liability if he isn't fast.
I spent a couple of years as a Special Teams Coordinator and I’d rather use a player who can pursue the ball and make the tackle than a blocker. It's easier and better to have him snap it and go.
LS’ers might be a TE, FB, or even a LB. So instead of having them report to the ref everytime you need to punt, refs disregard their number.
Also, at higher levels of football, no one is recruiting or drafting LS’ers. You use a guy on your team with that ability and make him get a lot of reps with the punter
The NFL and NCAA have pretty much entirely speclized snappers
The best long snappers are completely anonymous, Except Patrick Mannelly dude was the GOAT
Loved Mannley. He was awesome.
Didn’t they change that hence why where seeing lineman with QB numbers and vice versa
They loosened the rules a few years ago but the rules listed in the video are still the one in place now
@@luscorpio3679 they must of changed then again then
@@BrandonShuler-t3dno they didnt. these are the current rules
@@luscorpio3679 The rules got changed again last season. This is why we now have defensive players with single digit numbers and 0 is legal again. Not sure about 00. Still, this is sorta valid as the longsnapper is typically also another position so one team's long snapper might be a tight end while another's is a back up center, or... whatever.
@@jeffprovo7604 that was the change I mentioned, in my head it was longer ago than just last year
Defensive Linemen were first allowed to wear 90-99 in 1979 bc under the 1973 jersey numbering system, D linemen were only allowed to wear numbers 60-79 and rosters began expanding and teams were running out of 60-79 numbers. Then in 1984, linebackers were permitted to wear 90-99 bc more teams were using 3-4 defenses (which meant more linebackers) and thus ran out of 50-59 numbers for linebackers.
“Running Backs can only wear numbers from 0-49”
*Cordarrel Patterson has left the chat*
He also said that running backs can wear 0-49 and 80-89
He wears number 84
patterson was also a receiver when he entered the league though
Did you miss the rest of that sentence where he says "but they can also wear 80-89? It's literally the same sentence as your comment is referencing smh
This was a loophole because he converted to RB from Receiver and was not required to change. Same thing happened with Ty Montgomery a few years back when he became the Packers emergency RB after all theirs got injured
Most LS in college are given an eligible number since if your the center you don’t need to report in ineligible, but would have to report eligible in swinging gate formation making it not a surprise if the LS goes out for a pass. Not sure how this relates to NFL eligibility rules since I don’t know them and neither does Dan camble.
Those dam refs are the ones who fcked it up🤬
@@kevin1153 he reported as required but the ref go confused bc three players were talking to him at the same time.got
I'm sure the reason for that is because long snappers come from the ranks of various positions.
The invention of the forward pass..would help in implementing the jersey number rules. A player wearing 50-79 cannot catch a pass on offense, unless made eligible as an end man on the L.O.S. Where the ref has to alert the defense.
I still havent gotten used to the wide recievers and running backs and cornerbacks wearing single numbers
Oh yeah, that totally clears it up, thanks, NFL.
Jim Otto will forever and always be "Double 0"
Jim 0tt0, the greatest center of all time.
Thank goodness they did this to reduce the confusion. Definitely doesn’t add any confusion
NICE shout out to Bears long snapper Patrick Mannelly! Longest serving Bears player of all time
In case anyone is wondering, that first team picture is of The 1920 Decatur Staleys, later the Chicago Bears. George Halas with the stripes on his jersey is sitting front row centre.
Wasn't wondering
00 was worn by quite a few players. Case in point, Billy White Shoes Johnson.
Long snappers usually have a primary position just far far down on the depth chart 😭
Fun fact: The roster they used was the 1920 Decatur Staleys (now Chicago Bears) Roster
As a D-Lineman I wore 54 and 93. Those were the days
Finally seeing some love for my football position
Personally, I'd like for the league to go back to the traditional numbering system. Seeing a hulking linebacker like Queen wearing #6 and Derwin James wearing #3 @ safety really throws me off.
Ray Nitschke - linebacker - #66 (fifties to early seventies)
I wore #49 and played DB,LB,RB and WR.
long snappers are usually just backup tight ends or OL
Kardell Stewart played a couple positions wearing the same number
It makes sense they would loosen the number restrictions. A lot of players are position flexible now. You see RB's and WR's lining up all over. Look at Deebo Samuel for example. Lamar Jackson might be the best RB in the league and he's a QB. You are seeing DB's play LB at times too. And finally TE's have done the Hback thing for ages now.
Teddy Bridgewater: hold my beer
I play fullback, punter, kicker, outside linebacker, and defensive end, I’m 61
For the longest time I was on that early 2000s Madden video game numbers. Y
Recall create a player mode? Back when Madden was king!
I remember in high school running backs were eligible to wear #99 so we had a big ass lineman who we’d put in at goal line situation.
Lions Teddy Bridgewater wearing #50: 😈
this was revised last year
I have a childhood friend who wore 77 as an LB for the Bucs… for about a week before he was cut
And our starting Offensive Line, “Alpha Bravo Charlie Delta Echo”
Ive always known there were limits per position but what i didnt know was how unnecessarily complicated they made it
Why is this even a rule? You don't gwt this in any other sport
@@Chloeprettyoccasionally it is supposed to make it easier to identify what position a player plays which makes it easier for refs to know if a player is committing a penalty (illegal man down field, illegal touching etc)
@@paulwarner7508 So what some positions are just allowed to commit fouls? I understand wanting to distinguish players, hemce you can't have the same number, but why does the position matter at all?
The idea of using letters is kinda crazy but I like it 😅 '53 is chasin down letter Z!' or 'where tf is F at?!' it's less syllables for what it's worth. Coach 'A is ok, B is getting there, C is decent'
That Orange Tornado jersey hard
Orange tornados jerseys are sick!
I was number 31 in school, defensive halfback and special teams kick/ return.
Long snappers are like a bailiff in a courtroom, who is still technically a cop.
Long snappers can wear any number because they're secondary position can be any they want
It seems like HBs couldn’t wear anything under 20 until a few years ago. I remember seeing Dalvin Cook switching his number from 33 to 4 and thinking “what?! They can do that now?”
The NHL doesn't have specific rules I believe, outside of it has to be a number and can't be 0, 00 or 99 but there are definitely unwritten ones.
Defensemen typically wear low numbers, generally between 2 and 15. 1 is a goalie number in the rare instances it is used.
Goalies tend to use numbers from 25 to 40.
Forwards tend to wear higher numbers, but the numbers 19 and 9 usually end up on hall of Famers and as a result one of those numbers is probably retired on your team. 99 was Gretzky's number and is retired league wide.
Hacksaw Reynolds, linebacker, 64
Only Jim Otto could dominate the double zero.
What number would QB be if the team he gets signed/drafted to already has people from number 0-19
The player who has the draftee's college number would have to give it up,and the players work out the "compensation" (ie a gift ). Personally, I like seeing players wearing higher numbers in football and basketball,and lower numbers (1-20) in hockey
@@henrymanzano2201 That makes sense Thank you. I figured that they would have the player just be the lowest number that’s available
That's probably because there used to be no such thing as a specialized long snapper. They used to be centers, tight ends, linebackers, you name it.
The GOAT offense
QB-12
RB-20
TE-87
WR1-80
WR2-81
So basically to make it easier to differentiate positions, they came up with the most complicated system possible
It makes since, because LS could also play any other position.
Im a long snapper playing college ball rn, I have worn 34, 48, and 29, it really is free rein 😭. If there are single digits available, we can pick it up, but it really depends on your coaches, or the rare chance that somebody leaves a single digit number available
Somebody should’ve told KENNY Burroughs that he played for the Houston Oilers and was double zero and he was a wide receiver or a wide out
Jim “00” Otto
Rest in peace Raider legend ❤️❤️❤️
That 77 may go hard on a half back🧐
Chicago up BEAR DOWN 💯🐻🏈
as a long snapper myself, i must say that i am honored
That's even more confusing 😂😂
ya big im a long snapper and i wear 6
I miss the pre 2021 number rules fr
That’s why I love Reid Ferguson. Man could’ve chosen any number with the bills and picked 69. Nice.
Yes that's all much clearer!
Let’s GO!!!! I’m a long snapper is a long snapper the center btw?
Its good to learn about the history of position numbering but players can wear any number now
This is wildly untrue. D Lineman can wear 0-99 . I belive LBs also can wear any number. The restrictions really only matter with the offense. QB has to be 0-19. Lineman have to be 50-79 to be eligible . WRs and TE can be any number excluding 50-79. Defense does not have this restriction since they don’t have eligible blcokers
That would be crazy if they were there positions initials instead of numbers
But I’ve seen wide receivers were numbers in ten 80s through 89
Name any of them?
@@atomicbamboo2453ceedee lamb wore 88
@@atomicbamboo2453 just for starters, like Jerry rice?
@@atomicbamboo2453Jordy Nelson wore 87
@@atomicbamboo2453Antonio Brown wore 84
Kind of stupid system when positions have overlapping pools of number options.
Can long snappers wear Double 0 then? Which rule takes precedence?
I played safety and QB but i had to wear something under 10 for my number
Huh, I would've thought long snappers were just centers from an official NFL rules standpoint.
That's not exactly true. Most long snappers play another position. So their # would be decided by their primary position group. A lot of them are linebackers.
Wasn’t there a receiver on the oilers in the 80’s who was 00??
I always thought it was weird bud dupree wore 26
Before long snapper became an official position anybody on the team who was good at it would do it. So the number couldn't be restricted.
Teddy Bridgwater was #59 and that confused the shit out of me
How does this work long snappers are usually centers 💀
i thought they recently changed it to any player any number
Wait so was he saying that running backs can wear up to 89? I couldn’t tell if he just meant wr’s and te’s and made a mistake because I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen a rb with a number higher than the 40’s
00😮 No more Jim Otto?
Whyyyyyyyyy😢😢😢
Doesn't the long snapper just count as an offensive lineman?
Would think a longsnapper would fall under same rule as offensive linemen
So theoretically, can a long snapper wear 100 ?
Roquan Smith, a linebacker for the Ravens wears #0 so there’s that.
and Reid Ferguson used this freedom to select #69
Long snappers have the best job for NFL players. Hands down (no pun intended).
since 2021... the answer is any position can wear whatever number they want. confusing the crap out of the old heads and making this newer generation feel empowered.