I Was WRONG About the NASCAR Playoffs...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
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In 1961, Ned Jarrett won a championship with one win.
As did Benny Parsons in 1973
@@bcschneider53 And that win was Parsons’s only lead lap finish that year.
Don't even get me started on 1974's format the year before the Winston format we all know and love.
I actually never knew that regarding the 1950 championship. The fact that Bill Rexford gets overlooked as a result is still unjustified because, as you said, the reason was out of his control entirely. In addition, Red Byron only has slightly better stats than Rexford at best & his status as a hall of fame & legend is unquestioned. So it's still not for Bill Rexford in my book. Sure Lee Petty got screwed, but Bill Rexford shouldn't have to suffer either as a result.
That being said, I still say 2015 was the absolute worst in terms of the Cup Series Title. With 1950, it was 1 driver who got screwed. With 2015, it was literally everyone but 1 driver who got screwed.
2015 was an absolute mess in every regard. Between Busch only running 70% of the season, Harvick's antics at Talladega, and the entire Logano-Kenseth saga...well, I think Hamlin's "wild west" radioactive line summed it up perfectly.
Big Bill may have had a bad championship when he was starting his series, but at least he didn't get arrested on a DUI and narcotics charges while he was running said series (into the ground, honestly). I hate the godd@mn playoffs, the codified random debris cautions they call Stage Racing, and that none of these safer cars race as well as the older "Gen 4" cars despite years of development. If NASCAR collapsed tomorrow, it would not kill stock car racing as some other organization would step in. They'd probably run it better than it has been in the past couple of decades too.
I know it may be Off-Topic, but I found out that Mayim Bialik is no longer the Co-Host of The Syndicated Version of Jeopardy!, So it looks like Ken Jennings will Be the Sole Host of the Show, From This Point Forward. What's your Reaction to the News?
Don't have too much of a reaction other than amusement that it took us three years to get to the point that everyone was making almost as soon as this saga began: just give the full-time job to KJ.
Video idea: The Yellow line rule at Daytona and Talladega. Bad wrecks still happen at Daytona and Talladega despite the yellow line being out if bounds at plate tracks.
Oh for sure, it’s been on my list for the “Absolute WORST” series for a while
We still can say about playoffs as the worst way to crown the champion, but add "In the 21st Century"
The national finals rodeo contenders for the final event are chosen based on dollars won. That means you could of had the highest score in bull riding at 3 times as many rodeos as the next guy, but because he went to rodeos that paid more money, he could be picked over you.
The chase will always be the worst thing to happen in Motorsports, period.
But back in the day, formats like 1950 (and even 1974) are the worst non-chase formats in NASCAR history. (But I’ll take 1950 over the chase any day. Bias? Yeah, but at least it was a racing points format. A bad one)
Could you imagine if NASCAR started off the series in 1948 with the 1975-2003 format? NASCAR would be a lot better
1974 was particularly bad as well, absolutely
Hold up hold up. In fairness. It wasn’t the system, it was the penalty. Seems a little clickbait
I'm allowed one of these a year
(Also it was still a combination of both, hence why I brought up Mantz and the Southern 500)
Haha you know fair enough!
In the context of early stock car racing calling the top earner the champ kinda makes sense. At least more sense than having a 1 race, winner take all “Super Bowl for stock cars”. God the playoffs are dumb.
@@kodycrabb5820 Lol yeah, it’s a fine idea in theory but when your biggest race is worth THAT much more than your others, I’m not sure how great of a system it is in reality. 1974 was another particularly egregious example. I still think the Latford system was probably the best system.
Playoff makes the championship illegitimate, that's all that there is to it. And on top of that they added stage racing which means that now even individual races are unwatchable. Terrible. Nascar should go back to a serious scoring system, as they had throughout most of their existence.
Again, I wouldn’t quite go that far. I’d argue it gives the championship less prestige and less value compared to those that won it under a full season format, but it doesn’t make our champions “illegitimate.” The rest I agree with 100% though.
@@bcschneider53 I strongly disagree. To me there's nothing legitimate about arbitrarily throwing away practically all of the season, arbitrarily preventing drivers from having a mathematical shot at the championship due to a make-believe threshold not being met, and arbitrarily allowing the unpredictability of a single race decide the title.
How many titles would the likes of Petty and Earnhardt have if they were racing under the chase or -God forbid- the playoff formats? Imagine if Max Verstappen, after having such a dominant 2023 performance, were to finish the last race behind somebody who's hopelessly behind him in points and lose this year's championship because of that. It would indeed be illegitimate. That's how the playoffs 'work'. Can you see the problem?
The champion is the driver who has performed the best throughout the championship. I can tolerate a rule like what F1 had until the early 90s, which discards the worst result of each driver, but there's a reason why most racing series outside of drag racing and drifting utilize a similar scoring system across the board. Imagine if Moto GP, F1, WRC and other such series adopted ball sports scoring system for their championships, they'd be a laughing stock. Let us agree to disagree.
@@peekaboo1575 I don’t think we disagree NEARLY as much as you might think. It’s just the conclusion that today’s championships have absolutely no legitimacy to them that I think is a stretch a bit too far. The drivers don’t choose the rules and the rules are the same for everybody (except in 1950, which was the whole point of this video).
Because of that, I don’t know that it’s fair to label today’s championships as inherently “illegitimate.” But as for the rest of your comment, I strongly agree with pretty much all the points you’ve made. The system itself is a joke and has been since it was introduced.
@@bcschneider53 Don't get me wrong, I don't blame the drivers at all. I simply reject the results of those championships.
@@peekaboo1575 Fair enough!
These playoff haters can hate, but in the end, they’re just a bunch of inconsistent hypocrites. Because I’ll bet my left nut they’re watching every single other sport with playoff formats and definitely aren’t watching the Premier League, which is the only sport I know of that doesn’t have playoffs. Lord knows they’re probably the same people that think F1 is boring because Verstappen locks the title up five races early.
You’ll be glad to know I not only watch the Premier League, I also have repeatedly praised Max Verstappen for his dominance in F1. Is it boring? Of course. But the solution isn’t artificially closing the points gap every three races, it’s Ferrari, Mercedes, and McLaren getting their acts together and putting up a legitimate challenge.
@@bcschneider53 That does make me glad. At least you walk the walk. Most of these clowns on the internet don’t. I may disagree with you for the most part, but I respect you.
@@ryanmorrison3699 Fair enough! Not a fan of playoff expansion anywhere. Wouldn’t bother me at all if the MLB teams with the best record in the AL and NL went straight to the World Series. Why play 162 games if your whole season might come down to a three-game wild card playoff series? It’s excessive imho
@@bcschneider53 See, I totally respect that viewpoint! Because your viewpoint is consistent across all sports. Meanwhile all these other guys have no problems with the World Series or Super Bowl whatsoever. Not a single peep about that and they complain about NASCAR having playoffs and don’t support the playoff-less Premier League. It doesn’t make sense to support playoffs wholesale and then absolutely trash it for existing in one lone sport.
NASCAR should right Big Bills wrong and crown Lee Petty Co-Champion for 1950
Eh, you can't just rewrite history either...Lee definitely got screwed but then again plenty of others have as well.
If we can rewrite history like that, maybe we should crown Lewis Hamilton the 2021 F1 champion, whom btw was the victim of arguably one of the worst race fixes in motosports history.